The problem with the Prop-2 dust up is that Utah's legislature and fellow
Goodfellas are working feverishly before their time runs out to find a way to
control a Marijuana production and sales chain that is designed to benefit their
select, insiders, nominees, and cutouts. The insiders will be favored sons and
daughters ... Goodfellas ... controlling the "Pot" processes throughout.
We like to call the newly visioned entity "UPOT" after several other
corrupted quasi governmental entities like UTA, USTAR, DABC ... you get the
drift?Utah's Goodfellas will control the following processes
through insiders, nominees, and cutouts:Medical Cannabis Cultivation
Facilities = CCPOT Medical Cannabis Processing Facilities = CPPOT Independent Cannabis Testing Laboratories = CTPOT Medical Cannabis
Pharmacies = MCPOT State Central Fill Medical Cannabis Pharmacy = CFPOT
Qualified Medical Providers = MPPOT Medical Cannabis Inventory
Control System = ICPOT Transportation of Medical Cannabis = TPOT Have a little fun at the Goodfellas' expense folks. It's for
certain that with their UPOT they'll be having some fun at our expense.
s/Wayne Wickizer "The Ole' Buzzard"
procuradorfiscal, that's a homeless issue...not a cannabis issue. The same thing was happening in Pioneer Park in SLC, until Greg Hughes threw a
grenade into the problem. Now it's all up and down the Jordan
river trail, from SLC to Bluffdale. But again, it's a homeless
issue, not a weed issue.
Re: "The sky is not falling in any of the 30 plus states that have enacted
some form of legalized marijuana use."Actually, it is.I was recently in downtown Portland, OR. It was once a nice place. It's
not now -- due almost entirely to the surrender of the place to the drug
underground.I was accosted by aggressive panhandlers demanding money
for weed. I had to step over people sleeping or passed out on the sidewalk. The
smell of burning weed was everywhere. I had to be careful not to step on needles
left lying everywhere. The worst, however, was the human and pet urine and
excrement that only gets cleaned up once a week, but which leaves a stench, even
after being hosed into storm sewers. Open sewers -- which is a valid description
of the situation in downtown Portland -- is one of the best way known to man to
spread a number of serious diseases.We can expect a similar
experience in SLC, to the extent weed becomes more available, more prevalent,
and less controllable than it now is, and these are all inevitable effects of
Prop. 2.If Utahns foolishly fail to learn from other states'
history, we're doomed to repeat it.
Jbergarano, law enforcement is NOT prevented from doing their job under
Prop 2. If cops believe a dispensary is doing something illegal, they can
do what they do now: get a warrant, and then those records ARE kept over 60
days. Thats already on the law books. The 60 day limit prevents what happened in
Cottonwood Hts, where an over-zealous detective went through patient records on
an unrelated matter and felt he found "doctor shopping" by 3 people.
Charges were later dropped.All zoning laws must be followed, as well as
building codes and fire codes. All Prop 2 prevents is refusing a business
license only on the fact that the business is a dispensary.The distances
required for setback of a dispensary are identical to existing distances for
state liquor stores. You want something different? Please explain why. Sales tax is not collected on other prescription pain meds, so not taxing
cannabis simply puts cannabis on the same footing as the non-taxed status of
Soma, Norco, and other opioids. 31 other states (and DC) have been able to
work with medical programs. Utah should be able to do the same. Crime does NOT
increase, youth use does NOT increase,
QuietMan a simple Google search proves you are wrong.
Will someone please explain why the mormon church is meeting with the state
legislature on this matter?
Follow the money behind Prop 2.
Marijuana also makes it tolerable to live in a state theocracy that wants to
force their views on the entire population.
It is interesting to me that so many who are against medical marijuana or for
that matter recreational marijuana keep harping on and on about things that at
the end of the day really are easily proven to be non issues.Marijuana is non-addictive. You cannot overdose on it. Smoking it is
considerably less harmful then smoking a cigarette. It's use is far safer
than the consumption of alcohol. And yet, logic is thrown out the
window and uneducated arguments prevail. Other than an extremely
flawed and misleading Colorado study that was at one point sighted by an LDS
Church spokesperson, there is no evidence anywhere (not in California, not in
Oregon, not in Washington, not in Nevada, not in Colorado) that medical or
recreational use has caused any wide spread issues whatsoever.The
sky is not falling in any of the 30 plus states that have enacted some form of
legalized marijuana use.
The pot people will continue to push until we will be just like Oregon, it is
all Deja to me for when we tried to save our paradise also.
As a physician, I encourage people to put fear aside. Cannabis is a great plant.
Why would you be scared of it?
My main concern is lack of teeth to regulate pot shops. If a pot shop is out of
line records have to be destroyed after 60 days. If an illegal dispensary
opens up, Utah police are forbidden to enforce Federal laws. This bill favors
lax enforcement and reduces penalties for possession to $100.
Don, if passed it will still allow those with "Medical Cards" to
purchase up to 2 ounces of pot every two weeks with no controls on how they
consume the stuff. They can in fact choose to smoke it. RecreationallyI like that they are in talks to adjust it. I'd rather it not pass and
the Legislature do it correctly with proper controls and limits, but at least
this is a positive step towards fixing the biggest flaws in this poorly written
initiative.And why does DesNews keep harping on the 100 miles rule.
Very few people I know opposed to this initiative have any real heartache with
that, we are more concerned about the ease of getting a medical card as any
condition that might warrant an opioid (chronic pain in my pinky toe) is
grounds. Or the fact that once the card is issued there is no further medical
oversight of this Medical use. Medicine should include medical supervision, not
the advice of some random minimum wage clerk at the dispensary. those are far
bigger issues than the ability to grow a small amount of your own pot in certain
cases. That and prohibitng the state from taxing pot. That has to get dropped.
Why the misinformation by people claiming to be doctors, but who are obviously
shills for prop2 opponents?
"Prop 2 is indeed a thinly-veiled ploy to get recreational, smoked marijuana
legalized in Utah."Other than, you know, the part of the
initiative that says it will not be legal to smoke. And then there's the
part where you have to get a doctor's permission for treating a medical
condition. Besides that, it's totally about recreational smoking.
I’m confused why this is even on the ballot in Utah. As a physician, I
can tell you that CBD oil, the form of medical cannibis that has been studied by
far the most, is already legal here. THC has no known medical benefit that can
be supported by real data (not anecdotes, testimonials, or obscure
pseudo-studies). Thus, Prop 2 is indeed a thinly-veiled ploy to get
recreational, smoked marijuana legalized in Utah. If Prop 2 passes as currently
written, this will be something we will greatly regret.