13 things voters should know about Utah's medical marijuana initiative

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  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Nov. 6, 2018 3:07 p.m.

    To ConradGurch:

    Re: “Why is it important to control recreational use? Opioids, Cigarettes and alcohol are readily available and are much much worse. Why not control them?”

    Wow, now that’s bad logic. Let’s increase access to a substance with demonstrably horrible impacts on users because - wait for it - other things with horrible impacts on users are already available!

    Any of these in moderation has limited negative impacts. The problem is that human nature does not always result in moderate use. With cigarettes and pot that is smoked, their are clearly proven negative impacts even with moderate use. This is also true with both opioids and hard liquor. And all of these can impact judgement, mood, and decision making negatively.

    I have no problem with scientifically validated marijuana for medical use, but that is NOT what Prop 2 is about. Prop 2 is about easing penalties on recreational users and is a step towards legal availability of pot. Regular pot users are notable paranoid and unmotivated, w/significant negative consequences to work and study habits, relationships and families.

    Don’t be fooled by bad logic or bad policy proposals. Vote NO.

  • Onelove420 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 6, 2018 1:23 p.m.

    "Man created alcohol, cigarettes, and pharmaceuticals. God created Cannabis." Who do you trust?
    -D&C 89:10---
    “And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome herbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man.”
    -Genesis 1:12---
    "The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

    As a member of the Church, with a degree in Addiction/Drug counseling, and occasional partaker myself, I know first hand the benefits of such a wonderful plant. Those suffering from anxiety, depression, and everything else would benefit from this.

    I challenge everyone opposed to marijuana to try it for themselves. Or at least do more research before coming to a conclusion.

    P.S. 99.9 % of youth experiment with alcohol before any other drug. Additionally, 2.8 million people die each year from alcohol.
    *Annual Deaths: Alcohol: (2.8 Million.) Marijuana: (0) Explain?

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 6, 2018 12:36 p.m.

    @carman - Wasatch Front, UT

    Why is it important to control recreational use? Opioids, Cigarettes and alcohol are readily available and are much much worse. Why not control them?

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    Nov. 6, 2018 11:27 a.m.

    all this fuss and worry over a harmless non addictive plant that has medical benefits.

  • carman Wasatch Front, UT
    Nov. 6, 2018 10:00 a.m.

    Marijuana/pot has become a commercial product in many states, and the the business interests in expanding the pot market are enormous. It is interesting to me that the left, which often hates on business influence on politics, is looking the other way as big marijuana business interests work to legalize pot in Utah.

    And don’t believe that Prop 2 is only about medical marijuana. It also removes law enforcement teeth, allowing recreational marijuana users to use without consequence. This will increase recreational marijuana use in Utah, with significant negative impacts on youth, productivity and families.

    Finally, medical marijuana as envisioned by Prop 2 is without scientific basis. Emotional arguments made by pot supporters is all that backs Prop 2. Pain relief has not been scientifically proven. And there are very, very few people who would benefit medically. The biggest winners from Prop 2 would be the pot industry, and recreational users who will face far fewer consequences.

    Don’t be fooled by the Prop 2 lobby or the left. This is about clearing a path to recreational use.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Nov. 6, 2018 9:03 a.m.

    The entire issue is being over thought.
    The state should look at what Massachusetts has done and do the same. It's that simple. It works for everybody there.

  • eleetham Sacramento, CA
    Nov. 6, 2018 7:25 a.m.

    As I read so many comments how medical marijuana will lead to more harmful drugs is a joke. I've used marijuana for my pain. I've never got hook on other substance. I might have a drink or 2 on special occasions be on that. Its when my primary doctor who prescribed me over the counter medications is when I'm getting sick or not feeling myself always feeling tired. Vote yes today!!!!

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 6, 2018 4:48 a.m.

    @cmsense - Kaysville, UT

    $50/per day?! That’s a lot! Can’t buy that story.

  • SethStewart Provo, UT
    Oct. 23, 2018 12:19 p.m.

    Marijuana is addictive. Proponents of Prop 2 routinely claim it is not. That is dishonest. (See CDC.gov and Drugabuse.gov and corresponding studies).
    We need adequate safeguards against abuse.
    Todd Moon, the author of the original ballot initiative that became Prop 2, says he no longer supports it because "all of the safeguards have been removed". What is left is a de facto legalization of recreational marijuana.
    Youth use amplifies the risk of addiction. 1 in 6 youth users literally can't stop.
    Addiction destroys life, even if there are supposedly no other adverse consequences for health (which there are besides).
    If it is to be used as medicine, treat it like a medicine, with all the safeguards (prescriptions, licensed pharmacies, accountability), research, and warnings that apply. Don't allow it to become something sold or given to your kids in cookies or candy on school playgrounds.
    Treat it like the dangerous and easily-abused drug that it is. Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, and rightly so.

  • livvymei1 Highland, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 9:15 p.m.

    I'm a high school student and unable share my opinion by voting, but I would like to speak out here. Legalizing MJ, however many "good" reasons to will make MJ much more available to the public. The public meaning the kids in high school, trying to get a good education and train their developing their brains. Having MJ so easy for teens to obtain and abuse will only increase the drug problem in high schools around Utah.
    However, I am aware that there are medical uses for this drug that can help people. Doctors should create a MEDICAL version of MJ to distribute to certain individuals that have gone through testing to give them the right to use this drug. Creating a medical version of this drug (i.e. in pill form, instead of smoking a joint or vaping) will eliminate the harmful effects of MJ and make the good parts controlled.
    Vote no until there are more controllable ways for people to receive the treatment they need.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 3, 2018 6:51 a.m.

    Vaping marajuana or regular vaping should not be allowed in apartment type housing.

    Land Lords should be allowed to prohibit vaping inside their homes or buildings.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    Oct. 1, 2018 6:24 a.m.

    We can thank our good friend George Soros for spending huge $$$$ in support of every pro MJ bill in the country. Is Utah gonna let Soros get his greedy fingers into Utah. Only time will tell.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 25, 2018 9:23 a.m.

    @Navigator13 - Pleasant Grove, UT

    What is wrong with Colorado?

  • Navigator13 Pleasant Grove, UT
    Sept. 25, 2018 7:11 a.m.

    On one hand, we say higher gun laws and restrictions are bad, because they only affect those who obey the law. Shouldn't the same rule go for marijuana? There are many currently using marijuana in Utah, and it isn't those obeying the law. Those who obey the law and are suffering are the MOST affected by our inaction and repeatedly turning down these proposals. With some cancer and almost all hyperemesis gravidarum (affects 5% of all pregnant women), a pill, a brownie, etc. isn't even an option because it gets immediately vomited. When Zofran, Diclegis, CBD oil, the pregnancy diet, the list goes on, all isn't doing anything to help your suffering wife, you look to legalized vapor marijuana (which the HG community swears by) as the answer. Let's let those who are most affected by this be the ones to speak for it. The article already states, "a medical cannabis card itself cannot be issued to anyone under 18. In order for a minor to legally use medical marijuana under the initiative, their parent or legal guardian must be issued a card after "treatment with medical cannabis has been recommended by the minor's physician." Raise your kids right and this won't become Colorado.

  • Edmunds Tucker St. George, UT
    Sept. 25, 2018 12:01 a.m.

    ''CBD oil is technically prohibited at the federal level but is nonetheless sold widely in Utah.'' Go ahead Docs, and risk losing your license to prescribe any drug or anything else. Check out the Drug Enforcement Administration and Schedule I on the Controlled Substance list. The Governors of Washington and Rhode Island asked the DEA which asked the Health and Human Services Secretary for input, and the Secretary asked the FDA and National Institutes of Health, and both said, 'no' to marijuana for medical purposes. Marijuana has no accepted medical purpose. There is no such thing as medical marijuana.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 5:04 p.m.


    Frozen Fractals - Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 3:05 p.m.
    "Landlords can't prevent smoking it in your apartment if this passes"

    "Absolutely they can, because smoking it would still be illegal under Prop 2. The thing about landlords applies to not being allowed to restrict other forms of medical marijuana use."

    The above is correct, but consider this. Renters may smoke it even if they are not allowed to do so, but will deny they are smoking it. If the landlord cannot prove it, they probably can't be evicted. Also, one poster indicated when it is vaped, it has as much penetration into walls and ceilings and possibly more, than smoking it.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 24, 2018 4:48 p.m.

    @panamadesnews - Lindon, UT

    "Let's do this the right way, do the research and then allow the Utah State Legislature to draw up a good bill which will protect all of us."

    We have new drugs that are passed through all of the time that are very harmful to people. Just read a warning label! Where is the research on OPIOIDS? I'm quite sure it doesn't say "packed with vitamins and minerals" And you want more research from doctors and the great & wonderful Utah Legislature to write a law to protect us? Protect us from what?

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 4:47 p.m.

    To all the people who are so fearful that prop 2 if passed all of a sudden opens the doors to more teenage/adult drug abuse. understand that all the teenagers and adults who want to use marijuana already do it. And will continue doing it. If there is data in California, Oregon or Colorado that says marijuana use has spiked amongst adults and teenagers I'd love to see it.

    No laws ever stopped anyone from underage drinking/smoking or illegal drug use.

    people that don't use marijuana either medicinally or recreationally use stereotypical arguments against legalization with little knowledge to back up their objections.

    I would challenge those people to weigh the use of (or try for themselves) alchohol, Tobacco and opiods. Then tell me what should be legal and what shouldn't.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 4:21 p.m.


    JoelB44 - Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 23, 2018 5:17 p.m.
    "Alternatives, such as varieties of CBD oil, are more attractive to me. Legal or not, I don't support smoking pot in any form!"

    I agree. And to those who state that MJ is not addictive or harmful, YOU DO NOT KNOW for sure. Let's do this the right way, do the research and then allow the Utah State Legislature to draw up a good bill which will protect all of us.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 4:00 p.m.

    Plebus - Sandy, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 12:37 a.m.
    . . . . . . . . ."We need better policies. Prop 2 seems like a step towards that--not a perfect one--but maybe good enough for now. Hope is not a plan. Hoping for a perfect policy that might never pass is not plan. But a perfectly good policy that can be passed tomorrow (with enough votes) might be.

    Surely, if legislators need to tweak, then what's the harm in passing what we're sure we can get today and then adding what we're unsure we will get tomorrow to make it better?"

    Ask the good citizens of the state of Washington how they feel about the legalization of MM. It is totally out of control. We don't want that in Utah.

    Let's heed the Prophet's counsel to have the Utah State l.egislature formulate a bill immediately the "right way", to protect all of our citizens and to provide the medicine from marijuana that would help ease the pain and suffering of those with illnesses that require that kind of treatment.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 3:45 p.m.

    Frozen Fractals
    With all the accommodations given to users in this law do you seriously think smoking is not going to happen? It's obviously going to happen. If not in this version of the law, then down the road. You need to think past the first baby-steps.

    Think about it...

    Once MJ has "medical" status, you can't prohibit me from taking my medication. A landlord who won't let his MJ carded residents use it in their apartment would be the same as a landlord prohibiting his tenants from taking their insulin, or their heart medication. Of course they are going to use it in their apartment. They can't in public. Where are they supposed to use it?

    Oh yah, they can't "smoke" it (wink-nod) they have to keep it below 750 degrees. Imagine the landlord trying to enforce that. He would be sued as the bad guy for not letting his tenants take their prescriptions so fast your head would spin. Of course they are going to use it in the apartment. Even if the family breathing it second hand next door has toddlers.

    Once it's "medication" you can't restrict taking their "medication".

    And this is just the second step, not the last step.

  • Weston Jurney West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 3:15 p.m.

    Vote no on Prop 2, and let the Legislature take care of things.

    You know, like they took care of Medicaid expansion, and school funding, and fair Congressional districts. They did a cracker-jack job with those issues too, which is why we had to put them on the ballot too.

    If you trust our Legislature to do the will of the people, message me. I've got some ocean-front property in Wyoming I'd like to talk to you about.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 3:05 p.m.

    "Landlords can't prevent smoking it in your apartment if this passes"

    Absolutely they can, because smoking it would still be illegal under Prop 2. The thing about landlords applies to not being allowed to restrict other forms of medical marijuana use.

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 2:32 p.m.

    No matter what happens with prop 2 people (young and old) in Utah who want to use marijuana will continue to be able to find it easily and use it.

    It would be great if adults in Utah didn't have to worry about illegally using marijuana. But it won't stop any marijuana users from doing what they have been doing for a very long time.

    The bottom line is people who want it will use it. Those who don't want it will not. The End!

  • eleetham Sacramento, CA
    Sept. 24, 2018 1:11 p.m.

    Vote yes on prop 2

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 1:07 p.m.

    RE: "This is something that will benefit so many people that really need it"...
    I can tell you are well meaning. Which is a good thing. But things are often not what they appear to be. This is one of those times. Make sure you have read the whole thing and understand the likely and possibly unintended consequences (it's on ballatopedia dot com) easy to find, easy to read.

    This is not so much for people who need it. It's mostly for people in the business (a few locally, but mostly people in the MJ business in Colorado, Nevada, and California).

    This is HUGE for them (MJ businesses in Colorado, Nevada, California).

    Imagine being in the MJ business in Colorado and not able to ship your product through Utah...

    How do you get from Colorado to California without using I-15, or I-80, or I-70...

    Nevada is pretty dependent on I-15 for shipping too (whether it's MJ or toasters).

    That's why businesses in these States are spending so much money to make it legal in Utah (so they can legally ship product too and through Utah).

    Make sure you know what you are voting for. It's not just for your neighbor. It's mostly for these businessmen in Col and Cal.

  • PabloPicaso Midway, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    This is something that will benefit so many people that really need it. It will do nothing to stop someone from obtaining it if they choose...they can already drive east or west and purchase it legally. I really wish that big companies and churches would stay out of politics and just let voters decide for themselves. My wife and I will be voting YES, much to the dismay of our family and ecclesiastical leaders...

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    We already legalized it for those with medical needs.

    Google "Cannabis in Utah - Wikipedia"...

    "In March 2014, House Bill 105 was signed by Governor Gary Herbert, legalizing possession and use of low-THC CBD oil"...

    "In February 2018, the Utah House of Representatives passed HB 195, a bill to legalize the "right to try" and grow medical marijuana plants for terminally ill patients"...

    Young people who want pot just keep pushing for more and more liberal laws yearly. Sometimes they pass, sometimes they don't. But there's been a bill liberalize Marijuana use in Utah every year since 2014 (according to Wikipedia)


    Landlords can't prevent smoking it in your apartment if this passes (if you have a card or think you could get a card). It's easy to get a card. Ask Cal residents.

    Do you know how hard it is to get the strong smell of marijuana out of walls and carpets after a user moves out?

    Even if other residents in your building complain about the smell... there's nothing you can do to prevent smoking it in the apartment after this passes. No smoking laws don't apply, because it's medicine.

    Wait till it's in pill form, so doctors can prescribe and control amount used.

  • Respectful Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 9:22 a.m.

    I find it ironic that more liquor stores are approved every year in Utah; and I have not heard about any medical benefits of alcohol which many people use to deal with physical or mental pain.
    If one can freely purchase alcohol and cigarettes in as much quantity as they like how can you argue with the proposal to help people who through experience know how much they have been helped with the use of medical marijuana?

  • Yorkshire Logan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    I for one haven't been taken in by all the hype.

    Or the excessive sophistry about all the supposed 'poor people who are suffering.'

    I shall be voting NO on Prop 2.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 6:50 a.m.

    The more hyperbolic and unhinged the opposition gets, the more I’m inclined to vote for this initiative

  • uterebel50 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 6:16 a.m.

    The Republican legislature and their sponsor's have done nothing for the people of Utah regarding this issue, so we must do it ourselves. Vote "yes" on Prop 2, and if the legislature really wants to do something constructive for a change, they'll have two years to fix it before it goes into effect. Don't fall for the speculative scare tactics of a well financed local newspaper. Force the legislature to do their job. Vote "yes."

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 24, 2018 1:01 a.m.

    Impartial 7

    Said posters anti religious epithets regarding prop 2 are inaccurate. The church refuses the legalization of recreational marijuana use. This bill is named to insinuate legalizing medical marijuana, when infact in 2014 herbert signed a bill to legalise and possession and use of low thc cbd oil for medical purpose, the bill did not allow for the sale of the oil within the state but simply allows those that need it to possess it.

    Prop 2 is simply to allow for recreational use of marijuana and to legalise the sale and cultivation of it within the state its not a medical marijuana bill, this is simply a liberal leftist ploy to propigate to the utah public the false narative to alloy medical marijuana use when it has already been legal to possess, with the only caviate prop 2 does not legalise traditional smoking of the drug, but allows edibles and vaping which is just as if not more effective in delivering the effects of the drug.

    Just like adults who buy alcohol for kids the same will be done with marijuana vaping oil and edibles, prop 2 endangers our youth and family values and this bill should be defeated.

    It is ignorant to think this initiative is a good idea.

  • search diligently Lehi, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 11:39 p.m.

    Liberal Larry here suggests the studies reflect no increase of traffic accidents in states after legalization of marijuana. Most legit studies show otherwise.

    Think about it. The tobacco industry for decades falsely came up with study after study that suggested tobacco had no ill effects on the users.

    I am all for pain relief. I have been in agony for 25 years day and night now from a multi-car accident. I would welcome relief and would love to see if cannabis worked for me. But I worry greatly about the impact it will have on our youth. Often marijuana is the first step of those who get addicted to opiods.

    Knowing it can be vaporized opens another can of worms. Vaporization can penetrate the walls between units. I am aware of that very thing with a renter who had to be evicted because the marijuana vapor was going via the attic into the bedroom of any infant next door. Not good! If it is "medical" then a landlord will have no control over this, whereas with smoking they can restrict.

    This bill is too loose and needs re-work. Also the proponents want to open the gates to use it before adequate controls are in place. Let's not get too hasty here.

  • Alex T Murray, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 9:56 p.m.

    voting yes to prop 2. people who abuse it are going to abuse it regardless. let this drug become available to those who truly need it.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 9:28 p.m.

    KHS - UK, 00
    Sept. 23, 2018 12:27 p.m.
    Who is to say marijuana is a safe and effective drug? And for what conditions? Is there any research that proves it is effective. Or are they just going to go on hearsay?

    Israel has been doing legitimate research of marijuana for years. So have some other countries. International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines, a medical marijuana research organization based in Cologne, Germany also has been doing research.

    Research on marijuana’s potential for medicinal use has been hampered for years by federal restrictions in the United States. Blame our gov't for not actively participating in research with regard to marijuana. If they had we would know even more about it than we do now.

    A lot of people want it legalized for recreational use. Like alcohol, it will come with many expensive problems as well just as alcohol has. But, the concern about recreational use should not stop research for medical use that is regulated and managed.

  • Puukko Orem Orem, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 8:17 p.m.

    I'm fighting cancer and will be voting no.

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 7:28 p.m.

    I am lds 2

    Based on said posters comments either they have not researched what this bill will do if passed and are completely ignorant of what is in the bill. Because any lds person would not knowing agree to legalise recreational use.

    This bill will legalise vaping marijuana oil, and allow for edibles like brownies which are 3 times as potent as if just smoking it.

    Prop 2 will turn Utah into a drug users haven just like colorado, nevada and washington.

    The bill allows for licensed growers called dispenceries legal in any city or town in the state, giving easy access to this ilicite drug to our young people which destroys lives.

    It is incredibly ignorant to vote for prop 2 if you disagree with recreational use marijuana.

    The church wants legalised medical marijuana as a prescription drug which alot of people could benefit from, but this bill is not just legalising it for medical use.

    This law needs to be rewritten to only include medical use of the drug.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 7:15 p.m.

    Great job putting this list together!

    Sept. 23, 2018 6:14 p.m.

    @JoelB44 - Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 23, 2018 5:17 p.m.
    “Alternatives, such as varieties of CBD oil, are more attractive to me. Legal or not, I don't support smoking pot in any form!”

    Smoking is prohibited under prop 2.

  • Robert Kauai Honolulu, HI
    Sept. 23, 2018 6:01 p.m.

    What a great article and it touched on every aspect that Utah is going to face if it legalizes medical marijuana. Here in Hawaii we are further down the road then Utah so I hope it's legislators are looking at the experiences in other states like Colorado, California, and Hawaii in implementing it's program. I'm concerned that if/when the bill passes and the program is implemented patients will have to renew their cards every six months. Ivy Lou Hibbitt, a Nurse Practitioner for Certicann.com told me that "many medical marijuana card holders are seniors on fixed budgets and with limited transportation" and that means they are going to have a hard time renewing their cards if they're forced to do it every six months. Let's hope that the cards will be valid for at least one year. The law in Hawaii recently changed so that card holders can be certified for up to 3 years if their condition is 'chronic'.

  • JoelB44 Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 23, 2018 5:17 p.m.

    Alternatives, such as varieties of CBD oil, are more attractive to me. Legal or not, I don't support smoking pot in any form!

  • JohnThomas Santa Cruz , CA
    Sept. 23, 2018 4:04 p.m.

    The issue is not really marijuana, since science and widespread experience have shown it has no significant harms. - The issue is the FRAUDULENTLY ENACTED prohibition!

    More than 600,000 innocent Americans are arrested for simple marijuana possession each year and made second-class citizens - for life! They will forever face large obstacles to decent employment, education, travel, housing, government benefits, and will always go into court with one strike against them. They can even have their children taken away!

    25 million Americans are now locked away in this very un-American sub-class because of this bogus "criminal" record. That has a horrible effect on the whole country, being a massive waste of human potential.

    In all it's 81 miserable years, marijuana prohibition has never accomplished one positive thing. - It has ONLY caused vast amounts of crime, violence, corruption, death and the severe diminishing of everyone's freedom.

    There is no more important domestic issue than ending what is essentially the American Inquisition.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 2:09 p.m.

    Quit stalling. Quit deflecting. Pass the bill, then address all these petty little issues after. They're had been plenty of opportunity to contribute to this legislation, but the Church and legislators failed to take the opportunities. Instead, they opposed everything without thought, research, or science. Now they are being dishonest and playing citizens of this state for fools.

    Pass this bill and force Herbert, the legislature, and the Church to take it seriously.

    People are suffering! Don't let these political games force them to continue suffering!

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 2:00 p.m.

    One initiative is to liberal and the other too restrictive. There are other medical conditions that could be helped with medical cannabis. The cannibus would create less side effects than some legitimate, legal scripts that can have some pretty serious side effects.

    Go back to the drawing board and come up with a better compromise bill.

  • BJMoose Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    Again this will not usher in recreational use. It’s already here. This article is nothing but one sided propaganda. I will vote for Prop 2 and encourage others to do the same.

  • KHS UK, 00
    Sept. 23, 2018 12:27 p.m.

    Who is to say marijuana is a safe and effective drug? And for what conditions? Is there any research that proves it is effective. Or are they just going to go on hearsay?

  • Jbejarano Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 11:11 a.m.

    Very informative article. One thing missing though was that the Dept. of Health would be required to delete sales records after only 60 days. I vote no to an initiative that claims to be medical but does not keep records like a pharmacy would for 5 years.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 10:53 a.m.

    I support legit medical use of marijuana. ..and every other drug for that matter.

    I oppose recreational use.

    I oppose dishonest marketing that uses medical use to push de facto recreational legalization.

    I worry about the principle of State nullification of federal laws. What other federal laws, rules, or court decisions do proponents of this initiative think Utah should nullify? Land use laws? Environmental regs? Decisions on marriage or abortion?

    I am voting no.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 10:41 a.m.

    The Utah Legislature, influenced by the LDS church (88% belong to "the" church) had plenty of opportunity to build a comprehensive MMJ policy. And they did what they usually do when 73% of Utahn's support something, they ignore and deny. Prop 2 is the result. The fear tactics used by the church and other opponents are despicable and dishonest. If Prop 2 passes, it won't go into effect for 2+ years if the Legislature doesn't pass an effective MMJ policy. So, vote yes and force the Utah Legislature to pass a law in the next year or so.

  • Joe Ismail Sandy, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 10:34 a.m.

    Marijuana is life saving medicine for many people, and a much safer alternative to pills for eveyone else. Prop two will be wildly successful just like every single other medical marijuana program in this nation. After a few years we will a look back at the absurd "reefer mandess" talking points and wonder why we ever took them seriously. Nothing against the anti side but they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. There is more danger in a single pharmacy than in a million marijuana dispensaries and that's just a simole fact. This same exact movie has been replayed over and over again in every state which takes this much needed step. At the end of the day cannabis is gods medicine, it has been legally used by civilization for thousands upon thousands of years without incident. Unfortunately the past 80 years of prohibtion has brainwashed a large portion of society, we are finally changing that, it will take time for reality to sink it, but mark my words, it will. Eveyone is anti marijuana until they watch what it can do for sick family members and friends.

  • TheBenSir Monticello, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 10:31 a.m.

    At the bottom Salt Lake County Health Department comments saying that the initiative ignores science. As someone who supports recreational use I would not want the initiative to ignore science, facts are facts regardless of how you feel.

    However, Science currently doesn't have much to say in regards to marijuana as taken in the form of vapor or edibles, the evidence shows is that it has medicinal effects and when not smoked appears to be generally harmless (Studies prove it's actually safer than many prescription drugs). So why then assert that there's something that we don't know about? It could very well be as safe as we think it is. Furthermore, even if we do find out that it has harmful properties, so does alcohol, nicotine and many prescription drugs.

    The solution isn't to lock up non-violent drug offenders. That is immoral and outrageous. Legalize it, if it turns out to have harmful properties we provide recovery and harm reduction programs. This worked in Portugal, is backed by Science and is statistically proven when tried with drugs like heroin, lowering regular use, HIV infections and overdose deaths nearly vanish.

    Slightly altering your conscious is not a crime.

  • dordrecht Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 10:30 a.m.

    There seems to be a lot of speculation and what-ifs when Prop 2 passes. Just think if you had a loved one that needed medical marijuana; would you worry about those who might use the herb for recreation? Prop 2 is going to get my vote even though I am not interested in drugs whatsoever.

  • mustangquarterhorse Southington, CT
    Sept. 23, 2018 9:35 a.m.

    I thank god, I live in a country that has allowed me, albeit in CT, to have a medical canabis card. I wish I had put in for a card sooner, as I am in my sixties and have had my canabis card, for a bit over a year now. I have ptsd, probably from a gift of tbi and a couple resected ribs, etc etc, my family doctor has prescribed many different types of meds over the years, most of which I took for a couple of months to make sure I achieved the "desired effect" , at best those meds changed my personality or made me lethargic, in a couple of instances those meds threw me into night tremors, that my wife had some difficulty waking me out of, another med I was taking turned out to be really bad for the heart and did nothing for ptsd symton so big pharma products have many more problems than cannabis ever had. Oh but the social stigma, be damned, canabis works for a lot of truly deserving folks out there.

  • katy Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    Another concern that isn't mentioned much is driving under the influence of marijuana . Since doctors will be prescribing this just as they prescribe other medications, driving when using this drug could be handled just as they already do - they contact the Driver License Bureau and their patients have to have a doctor's signature every year to allow them to drive. Folks that are on blood pressure, diabetes, epilepsy, other pain medication drugs already have restrictions in certain cases and most all have to be monitored. Those who drink and drive aren't easily identified, but prescription drugs can be tracked and licenses revoked if necessary.

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 8:10 a.m.

    We are a drug society with pills for every mood, every emotion, every pain, and every ache.

    We even have pills for fake aches and pains.

    We're a cry baby society taught to expect a pain free life regardless of our actions or nature.

    We have a million types of pills, potions and elixirs today.

    A million and one will surely cure everything again.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 7:59 a.m.

    Freedom from government regulation and improved healthcare options are goals of this new law.

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Sept. 23, 2018 7:36 a.m.

    It is time for or weekly attack on medical marijuana ( with a repeat of the finances). The Legislature has had more than enough time to face the music, now it's time for the people to decide. I support Prop 2.

  • liberal larry Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 6:59 a.m.

    After the wacky weed became legal in Washington State, and Colorado, studies by
    the Drug Policy Alliance, the libertarian Cato Institute, and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, revealed their findings!

    And the results revealed that legal pot has zero effect on traffic fatalities, and no discernible increase in teen drug use. Taxes on legal weed are up, but not huge contributors to the budgets, and arrests for small quantities of the drug are way down.

    On the negative side, in Colorado the number of child pot poisonings increased from 25 to 47, and their are difficulties in measuring the level of performance impairment in drivers.

    Legal medical marijuana in Utah will have very, little impact on almost anything except a few people who need it medically!

  • dski HERRIMAN, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 6:59 a.m.

    What bothers me is the total disregard of federal laws, including prohibition of local law enforcement from cooperating with federal officers regarding marijuana laws violations. A lot of issues have surfaced in Colorado since marijuana was legalized. I’m also afraid taxes will be increased to deal with those issues as well. Finally, Federal lands will be filled with illegal marijuana fields as the State cannot regulate who grows things there.

  • kolob1 Sandy, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 6:08 a.m.

    One thing you should know about Utah's medical initiative:

    Keep the big pharmas out of taking control !!!

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 5:53 a.m.

    Prediction - the number of people in Utah who are diagnosed with PTSD , chronic pain or autism spectrum will skyrocket.

    CBD oil according to the article is already legal in Utah. That seems to have the benefits without the high. I think doctors should be given the opportunity to only prescribe only the cbd oil if that is all they want to prescribe.

    There are studies of mj in ptsd that showed no benefit. Mj is not a recommended treatment by the APA.

    Recently met someone with she said a $50 a day habit (1500 per month, or $18000 per year) habit and she was 20 with 3 mj possession tickets already this year. That is enough for tuition, a house or condo payment, car payment etc. Who says mj is not addicting. Elon Musk recently said he didn't find mj conductive to productivity. Our economy will not benefit.

    People are passionate about their mj. I think there should be some head to head studies between cbd oil and whole mj plant. In conditions where the cbd oil is just as effective, why do would we want to promote someone getting high, especially if we are going to ask the government to label it "medical", because if it is med, it must be good for you right?

  • Plebus Sandy, UT
    Sept. 23, 2018 12:37 a.m.

    I guess this will come down to whether voters believe Prop 2 is better than the status quo. (I personally do).

    While I personally don't believe anybody should use this substance except for medical benefit, the current draconian policies towards offenders doesn't seem to do either our citizens or communities any good.

    Between the lost productivity, lost tax revenue, cost of incarceration, investigation, enforcement, and permanent harm caused to citizens caught in minor drug violations--there doesn't seem enough benefit to outweigh the monumental costs. We've lost the war on drugs. It's too expensive, to harmful, and too dangerous to continue as structured.

    We need better policies. Prop 2 seems like a step towards that--not a perfect one--but maybe good enough for now. Hope is not a plan. Hoping for a perfect policy that might never pass is not plan. But a perfectly good policy that can be passed tomorrow (with enough votes) might be.

    Surely, if legislators need to tweak, then what's the harm in passing what we're sure we can get today and then adding what we're unsure we will get tomorrow to make it better?

  • Sal Provo, UT
    Sept. 22, 2018 11:50 p.m.

    The irony of the opposition to Prop 2 is the fact that in spite of all the controls in place to prescribe and dispense opioids, their promotion, distribution, and use have been a national disaster. Greater controls do not seem to equate with responsible prescribing and use.

    I prefer a temporary bill that leaves the dispensing and distribution of MM to nearby states, allowing Utahns permission to buy their own marijuana from them, with a doctor-approved card.