Brad Rock: A carbon copy Utah Utes football team — still no offense

Return To Article
Add a comment
  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 17, 2018 6:31 p.m.

    JimmyDeester - West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:30 p.m.
    Uteology

    What about LSU? LSU hasn't played anyone mentioned here.

    ------------

    Then why do you keep claiming a victory over #6?

    Wisconsin was overrated, it sits at #18.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 17, 2018 8:31 a.m.

    Deja Vu, again.

  • FaithPrecedes Fairfield, CA
    Sept. 17, 2018 2:58 a.m.

    Dropped passes are drive killers and make it hard for any quarterback to move their team consistently. In the game against Cal, BYU had several dropped passes. Parts of the rest of the team did not play their best... all resulting in a loss. If the team that showed up at Wisconsin had shown up for the Cal game... what a difference. I think the Ute fans should not panic just yet. They still have real talent on their team, and time to get their act together. After the BYU game, of course... ☺

  • Whatwhat Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 10:07 p.m.

    The Utes and their fans are stuck in a Groundhog Day hole. If you didn’t feel like you had seen this same game before, seen the same start to the season, heard the same “it’s a bad loss but we control our destiny and the pac-south is wide open”, then deja vu has no meaning.

    I’m sure that for coach Witt it feels that way. Every year an amazing defense, every year an offense that looks like a fish flopping on the bottom of a boat, except for one standout star. It was Booker, then Joe Williams, now B Covey. The entire season is put on their shoulders, and with one awkward tackle the season comes crashing down. Then we hear, “we just have to focus on getting bowl eligible”. Mediocre bowl win - new OC - it’s Goundhog Day!

    Speaking of deja vu, this whole situation feels familiar. Coach Mac was a standout success in the in 1990s, making the BYU game a contest and bringing Utah to a new level. But starting in 2000 the utes lost games they should have won and narrowly won games that should have been blowouts. The team seemed out of control, penalties, fumbles, drops. Everyone loved Mac.

    We know what was done. It was painful, but 3 years later a Fiesta Bowl trophy showed up.

  • JimmyDeester West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:30 p.m.

    Uteology

    What about LSU? LSU hasn't played anyone mentioned here.

  • JimmyDeester West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:27 p.m.

    Uteology

    and how did that win chance percentage work out for Wisc.? Now that BYU has you rattled you have to go check win chances. I thought you were preoccupied with the pac south (funny as atrocious as the south is) careful, you better be ready for next week. Even this hill team could lose on a bye week. Cherrio!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2018 6:51 p.m.

    @Aunty

    BYU’s offense scored more points against the #6 team in the country, than Utah’s offense managed versus NIU and Washington COMBINED!

    -----

    #6 LSU?

    Utah has 17 points, BYU 34.

    Utah's offense is atrocious, that still won't stop us from beating BYU.

    Try not to go 0-2 COMBINED vs NIU and Washington.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2018 6:41 p.m.

    JimmyDeester - West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 2:26 p.m.
    uteology

    of course BYU would focus more on USU. at this point USU is much more threatening then the hill.

    -----

    At this point, Utah is still 80% favorite to win.

    How many miracle wins you plan on getting this year?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2018 6:35 p.m.

    Aunty Mythology - Monrovia, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 4:27 p.m.
    utemythology

    “Cute but your team struggled to score 24 and the Utes scored 30 against the same #109 defense allowing 42 points per game last year.”

    Dragging results from last season into the discussion is completely irrelevant and simply demonstrates your obvious desperation.

    ------

    Are you claiming that the Arizona defense isn't horrible this year?

    The only team to struggle to score on Arizona this year was BYU.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Sept. 16, 2018 5:25 p.m.

    The Utes displayed a good offense against Weber.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 4:27 p.m.

    utemythology

    “Cute but your team struggled to score 24 and the Utes scored 30 against the same #109 defense allowing 42 points per game last year.”

    Dragging results from last season into the discussion is completely irrelevant and simply demonstrates your obvious desperation.

    BYU’s offense scored more points against the #6 team in the country, than Utah’s offense managed versus NIU and Washington COMBINED!

  • Whoisthisreally slc, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 3:53 p.m.

    Held to 327 yards
    He had over 130 yards rushing.
    Was in the second level alot
    14 of 24 passing
    21 points.

    Defense needs alot of work too.
    Start with discipline on the D Line..

  • 8 in a row! Ogden, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 2:57 p.m.

    What I realy want see is Huntley stop throwing the ‘fast balls’ on those passes that require some ‘touch’. If he can’t figure that out soon just bring in the next guy. I don’t go to the games to see how hard he can throw it. I want to see touchdowns. When you do complete a pass and average 3.5 yards it’s clear you need to run the ball more. And another thing Troy Taylor, why are you lining up Moss at wide receiver? He’s no threat out there at all. Especially with the balls Huntley throws. Moss needs to run the ball from the backfield. If he’s hurt, he’s not the only running back.

  • JimmyDeester West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 2:26 p.m.

    uteology

    of course BYU would focus more on USU. at this point USU is much more threatening then the hill.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:54 p.m.

    london_josh - Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 1:53 a.m.
    Ute fans, lift your chins up.

    It's clear to anybody that Utah has no offense - lets get that out of the way.

    Arizona beat SUU today, but allowed them to score 31 points - the bright side is that Utah might get more than 7 offensive points against them.

    -----

    Cute but your team struggled to score 24 and the Utes scored 30 against the same #109 defense allowing 42 points per game last year.

    Let's us worry about P12, you should worry more about Utah State.

  • Dart Thrower Ogden, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    As a long time, multi-sport Ute fan, I see a common thread of destruction through the "big" sports, and that thread is athletes that play tight, are scared to mess up and wish they were anywhere but in the spotlight. Scott Mitchell, after the game last night said that his good NFL receivers said "throw me the ball and I will get a TD", whereas Utah's receivers seemed to be playing like "Don't throw me the ball, I might drop it".

    Last year at the PAC12 gymnastics championships, UCLA was having a "dance party" and the Red Rocks all looked like they had eaten bad oysters for lunch. Utah had one of their lowest scores of the year, even though we beat UCLA during the season at their place.

    Lastly, in a BB game a couple of years ago, the Runnin's Utes were down about 20 to a team they should have been clobbering. Coach K calls a timeout and tells the team "Look, I'm not angry, we just don't have it tonight. But let's not go out like this, let's go down swinging. Do what you can to win". The Utes ended up wining about ten, once they stopped "playing not to lose".

    Maybe we need a sports psychologist. The "you must win" attitude is killing our teams.

  • N.C.Y. Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    With all the losses over the weekend one thing is clear. Winning the South title is equal or less than winning the MWC championship...you get a banner but nothing else.

  • Italian Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:21 p.m.

    As long as Kyle is HC this record will keep repeating.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:16 p.m.

    Like one fan said, "just wait until next year".

  • Brichy23 Draper, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 11:36 a.m.

    It comes down to discipline and Utah for some reason has never had this quality which is a direct reflection of the coaches... Washington is a very disciplined team that's why they are and will always be a very good football team... I just hope the offense can figure things out because I do see potential we just need to stop dropping balls and fumbling... It's sad when I have more confidence in my son's high school football team catching the ball over the Utes... Huntley has not lived up to his hype which is even more frustrating... He struggles with the long ball and other teams will pick up on this and take the intermediate stuff away... He also stares his receivers down making it easier for safeties to take away the pass... At what point do the coaches look at Shelley as qb? Our defense is really good and should keep us in any game but if our offense continues to struggle the defense can only do so much and Utah will lose plenty more games this year...

  • SIMPLICITY Denver, CO
    Sept. 16, 2018 11:33 a.m.

    That game was truly painful to watch.

    One must preface the criticism of Huntley by acknowledging all the dropped passes, this is huge. That being said, Huntley panics, he makes ill-advised throws, runs too late in the play. Utah isn't good enough on offense to win consistently without very good to excellent QB play.

    The leash should be short, Shelly and Tuttle may have the "it factor".

  • Husker2 Aurora, MN
    Sept. 16, 2018 11:06 a.m.

    Utah needs to A) Run the ball more and B) Reduce the mental errors.

  • UTCountyNative Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 10:16 a.m.

    @BlueHusky

    Let's not get too carried away. That Washington secondary is the definition of elite, and I'm not excited to see BYU throw the ball against them in a couple of weeks. That being said I think BYU will definitely have a chance to win the game if they play like they did against Wisconsin yesterday. Also, I was shocked at how inept Utah's offense was yesterday. It was a comedy of errors especially towards the end of the game. Let's hope they look the same by the time November rolls around...

  • uterebel50 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:58 a.m.

    Let's just face it fellow Ute fans. We have THEE worst offense in college football today, and no one, given the current starting lineup, is going to fix it.

  • Stavros Albuquerque, NM
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:45 a.m.

    It has been downhill for Kyle Whittingham since the Sugar Bowl. I am so tired hearing about how he is underrated as a coach. The Utes seemed hold their own, but never can close the deal on key games. The offense has been dismal for years. I thought Utes had a “super star” freshman QB? While Huntley is a gamer, he is not take the Utes at where. With the PAC 12 south down, the Utes might miss be missing golden opportunity unless the fix the offense NOW!

  • IAMUTAH Fruita, CO
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:07 a.m.

    I love my Utes but they have mastered the "game plan" of success for losing in the PAC-12. Each game it's the same problems that are their undoing.
    1)Too many Turnovers
    2)Questionable play calling
    3)Stupid penalties at key moments
    4)Dropped passes
    5)Poor QB play/decision making
    I thought one specific series in the 4th Q summed up the night. We intercept the ball and then fumble untouched 10 yards from the end zone. Then our QB, not under pressure, throws the ball into the stands when our receiver is wide open for a TD. Finally, the next play, when the QB does throw the ball to the receiver there is a "hands of stone" moment and it's dropped. Just a microcosm of the game. We just can't seem to get out of our own way. Regardless, I am a UTAH man and I will cheer for this team through good and bad. It would be nice, however, if we could throw away the "game plan" for once and win the division. We have the talent, just not the focus.

  • crkennedy1 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    Rock is always spot-on with his assessment of the Utes. I love my team, and will faithfully follow them, but PLEASE Coach Witt, get that offense figured out before I die!

  • Enough is enough! Saint George, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    No mention of the targeting calls here? Interesting. That would seem to be a key component of any game review.

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 16, 2018 7:46 a.m.

    Pretty harsh but accurate evaluation of the Ute football program as they have "competed" in the PAC12. Great defense, keep them from scoring, and pray that your offense finds a way to score or doesn't give a score to the other team. We used to call that playing not to lose....big. Defense is probably #1 in the conference, offense is probably #10. Sad situation.

  • Howdy Brentwood, TN
    Sept. 16, 2018 6:30 a.m.

    In my opinion, questionable calls by the offense.
    They had 3 pretty makable field goals which they chose not to kick.
    Instead they went for the first down each time on 4th and whatever.
    Had they kicked those field goals and made them they would have been only down by 5 points with more than 6 minutes remaining in the game.
    Could have been a very different outcome.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 5:17 a.m.

    This was a terrible game. The Utes looked disorganized and their offense looks crazy. I don't know if Husky defense is that good or Utah's offense is that bad. Utah just about killed their own best player. The blackout should be banned - it certainly did not help.

    Utah had two players ejected for spearing. I don't think it was intentional, but they were swarming. They were over-aggressive. They were haphazard. Stunning to compare the discipline BYU exhibited in the Wisconsin game to the frantic scramble the Utes used.

    The Husky defense was very disciplined and stuffed the Ute offense time after time. However, I don't think this is a great Husky team. I'm looking forward to seeing how they deal with BYU's new offense and discipline in two weeks. And sadly, the Ute offense is the Ute offense, speed but frantic. I guess they'll be looking for another OC this winter. Very strange game.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 1:53 a.m.

    Ute fans, lift your chins up.

    It's clear to anybody that Utah has no offense - lets get that out of the way.

    Arizona beat SUU today, but allowed them to score 31 points - the bright side is that Utah might get more than 7 offensive points against them.

    ASU lost to SDSU today.

    UCLA and USC look pretty bad, neither are an elite team today.

    Shockingly, Colorado might be the pick to win the south, they're putting up 45 points in games - see what happens with larger teams.

    So as ugly as Utah's team looks right now - instead of battling with USC they might battle Colorado for the south championship.

    So good news is that other teams look bad.

    Bad news is injuries - which might be in play already - Covey took a beating and should have been pulled for his health and Moss has some ankle issues. Utah has depth on defense but not on offense.

    A lot of games left - Utah still can get on top of the south and it's not too late for Utah to right the ship.

    Hopefully the Utes pull it together.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 16, 2018 1:28 a.m.

    Same bad offense, 11th OC and counting.

    Huntley has regressed, receivers can't catch, and Moss is being underutilized.

    If NIU can hold us to 10 points, I don't see us scoring much at Washington State or Stanford. I think 0-3 start is the most likely outcome. I hope I'm wrong but I haven't see anything from this team, they're no better than last years 7-6 team.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:58 a.m.

    Not a good day for the conference of champions.

    USC gets clobbered by Texas and three Mountain West Conference teams win against PAC12 foes.

    Unless it's politics, don't know why so many PAC12 teams get ranked.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 16, 2018 12:10 a.m.

    That's only half the problem. While some Utah fans speak of depth like it's a showcase of Utah, one needs to ask where is it?

    Huntley is a small QB who takes big hits on wild runs - although with some decisions he makes one might wonder if Shelly is an improvement - however remove Huntley and TT's offense needs to rely on plays without such a mobile QB which show all weaknesses and Utah doesn't need that right now - so huntley getting hurt is bad and highly probable.

    Covey is an amazing person and player - he got torn apart tonight, that was brutal.

    Moss seems to already be running on 2 bad ankles.

    Those are your 3 play-makers on offense. It's not the stable of "next man up" that many fans pretend it is - it's those 3 guys - and they seem to be capable of about 1 TD per outing.

    You can't keep the guys like that healthy if they are the only options, they'll be targeted each down.

    Utah might have a chance in an odd year in the Pac South - but take away Moss or Covey or huntley and that 7 points will start looking like it was a wonderful tally. At least you have an amazing FG kicker - who could have been used tonight!