If we really cared about separation of children from their parents, we would
roll back no-fault divorce laws. In comparison to the harm done to children of
divorce, what's been done at the border during the last two or three
administrations is but a drop in the bucket.
@ECR - Burke, VA Like I said, the whole lot of congress is corrupt.
Immigration is politized by both houses of congress. There is always a bargining
chip, if I give you this then you don't get or if you get that, then I get
this, mentality of corrupt polititions with money falling out of their pockets
from lobbyists nothing good will come out of it.Immigration reform ,
or anything else good, will ever happen with this bunch of polititions in
office.Remember to vote them out!
fight4liberty - When you make statements like "This admin offered a path to
citizenship for 1.3 million daca kids and the dems refused. Remember this when
you vote" it is more fair when you add context to your statement.The bill that President Trump offered, after killing the DACA order put into
place by President Obama, included a path to citizenship for up to 1.8 million
people who entered the country illegally. But it also included: -
requirements to slash family sponsorship of immigrants and- a provision to
provide billions of dollars in funding for a border wall with Mexico, you know,
the one that President Trump promised would be paid for by Mexico.But the Senate tried to pass legislation that did much the same thing with a
few modifications. All of the proposals failed to pass in the Senate. It
should be noted that one such bill. the Coons-McCain bill would have:-
Provided a path to citizenship for 1.8 million undocumented immigrants who came
to the country as children- Offer no money for the border wall, though it
did include some border security measuresIt failed 52 to 47, with
Democrats almost united in favor and Republicans mostly voting against it.
To "silo" that is nice, but it doesn't prove corruption.Turnover rates do not indicate corruption. They indicate either hostile work
environments or else people that don't meet their employer's
expectations.The convictions are bad, but how many in the Obama
administration SHOULD have been convicted but were not? I can think of at least
4 that committed serious crimes that were never convicted. Isn't that a
more telling sign of corruption, having officials commit crimes but never
prosecute? If anything the fact that Trump is convicting them shows that he is
LESS corrupt.Nepotism? Really? You think that is a sign of
corruption? You should work for a small business where the Boss' son gets a
job there.Clinton and Obama profit from the their security detail
too because they are allowed to charge them rent. I don't see you calling
them out on charges of corruption.
Willam Richter said "When you hug your children tonight, imagine what it
would feel like to wonder where they are, if you will ever see them again or if
you and your children would ever recover from them being involuntarily
separated."Would you as a parent send your young child ALONE
through Mexico in hopes they will make it to the US? Would you as a parent send
your young daughter ( with the morning after pill) with a coyote to the US? Would you as a parent take your young children illegally across the US
border when you could cross at any of 300+ legal entry crossings, knowing your
breaking the law? The current administration is using the
immigration laws on the books for over 3 decades. In fact the previous admin
followed the same laws, separating children from parents, where was your outrage
then?The immigration system has been politized by both parties, its
nothing more than a political bargining chip, in a pay to play corrupt congress
and senate. Illegal immigrants are nothing more than political pons, used to
create a larger voting base.This admin offered a path to citizenship
for 1.3 million daca kids and the dems refused.Remember this when
@redshirt"the Trump administration is no more corrupt or extreme than
the Obama administration."Literally every measurable, objective
data point disagrees with you.Trump has had more cabinet and aide
turnover in 18 months than Obama+Clinton+Bush had in 24 years, and many of
those exiting Trump's cabinet did so after ethical violations.Trump has had more associates indicted and convicted in 18 months than
Obama+Clinton+Bush had in 24 years.Trump has allowed nepotism back
into the white house with the appointments of his daughter and son in lawTrump has willfully refused to divest himself from his businesses while
in office, and has personally and through staff members continued to advertise
and promote his businesses from the office of the President.Trump
personally profits from every single vacation he takes to his resorts, through
room rent, green fees and cart rentals charged back to the secret service by his
Re: "The United States continues to keep nearly 500 children separated from
their parents. "Oh, the number is several orders of magnitude
higher than that. Every time a miscreant parent is incarcerated, a child is
separated from his/her parents.The Left wants start with what it
perceives as sympathetic illegal aliens, of course, but the twisted, leftist
logic inevitably carries us to a single end -- eliminating consequences for
lawbreaking. In other words, chaos.
I did not vote for Trump.Instead -- I voted for a Utah, Mormon,
Republican.Our fore Fathers foresaw future Tyrants, so they
wrote into our Constitution a system of government requiring 3 separate
branches of government, meant to provide a check-and-balance on each
other.What they did not foresee, was a Tyrant, surrounded by a complicit Congressional branch, and quite possibly
hand-picking his own sympathetic Judicial branch, that would not perform
their Constitution duty of that separation of powers and would placate said
Tyrant.Therefore -- I play to vote against each and every
member of the "party of Trump" up and down this November's ballot
to keep things in check!
To "The Educator " the Trump administration is no more corrupt or
extreme than the Obama administration. In many ways they are less corrupt
because they are under the magnifying glass of the Press. Under Obama the press
was complicit and would help cover up things.How are Republicans
separating families when it was a program started when Clinton was President?
Even the pictures that keep going around the internet with kids in cages are
from the Obama administration.To "FreedomFighter41" if Trump
is today's King Noah, that would make Obama one of Noah's Priests.To "one old man " and who allowed themselves to be hijacked. The
Republicans voted against the ACA. That means everything in the ACA came about
because of corruption in the DEMOCRAT party. So again, when voting, remember who
gave in to corporate pressures to pass the ACA.If you think the ACA
didn't go far enough, lets look at it this way. How many insurance premiums
will it take to pay the salaries of the government bureaucrats? Currently the
government overhead costs are HIGHER than for private insurance.
If this were the only reason to vote the Republicans out, it would be enough.
It's a travesty. But unfortunately, it's just the tip of a very ugly
iceberg.Tax cuts for the wealthy that balloon the debt.Proposed cuts to Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and other programs for
the needy to help defray the cost of the tax cuts.Denial of global
warming even as weather-related disasters multiply and intensify, all so that
regulations on polluters can be repealed.Sabotage of a flawed but
workable ACA without a sensible replacement in sight.Wanton trade
wars based on untrue rationales.Over a dozen investigations into
Benghazi, without finding any wrongdoing, but a total lapse in oversight of the
most corrupt president in memory (and yes, I remember Nixon).Attacks
on Robert Mueller, a Republican with impeccable integrity, all to protect that
same president from his own disgusting behavior.No reform to make
gun laws more sensible.I could go deeper, but the water is getting
pretty cold already.
RedShirtHarvard - Cambridge, MASept. 12, 2018 12:42 p.m.Can we also
remember the feeling when you lost your Doctor because of the ACA.How about we remember how we felt when premiums for Health Insurance increased
because of the ACA.Remember how it felt when your insurance went
from a HMO to a high deductible plan, yet cost the same.==========Except that those of us who have taken some time and
effort to learn the truth about what happened know that the Affordable Care Act
was literally hijacked by insurance companies (with lots of help from GOP
members of Congress). It was only after insurance companies went to work, that
our premiums went up.Remember, too, that the AVERAGE pay of a health
insurance chief executive is right about $66,000 PER DAY !How many
premiums are needed to cover just one major company exec? And how many other
high paid positions exist in each company?The problem is NOT in the
Affordable Care Act. The problem came because the act didn't go anywhere
near far enough. Universal care is the only sensible way.
This is nothing but fearmongering. I believe the government is working
diligently to secure the border. The system may be far from perfect, but this
problem didn’t happen overnight. Families or individuals crossing our
border illegally need to be prepared for tough times ahead. A secure border and
a better, enforcible policy would fix this problem. It should be a bipartisan
Trump is the modern-day King Noah. What happened to his kingdom? What will
happen to us? I can't believe so many from the church would
support someone so immoral as he. Would you be on the side of Abinadi and Alma?
Or on the side of Noah and his priests? I think we're seeing it play out
right now as we speak!
"Big difference between Japanese Americans and illegal alien invaders.
"Big children and their refugee parents aren't illegal
alien invaders. This is the type of extremist language that is
causing so many to jump the GOP ship and join us. There's no room for
compromise or moderates in today's GOP. They're either all pro Trump
or "too liberal" for the party. Dehumanizing people is the
first step towards genocide. We can either learn from history or repeat it. Get Educated
Amen!Me and my family have discussed this at length! We are all
voting straight ticket... Democrat! This Trump administration is
just too extreme, corrupt, and radical. I teach a young group of men in our ward
about the importance of having moral leaders and we have had many productive
discussions about Donald Trump during Wednesday nights and camp outs. I'm
confident that these young men will have learned from our discussions and will
vote appropriately here in a few years too. I just don't see how anyone can
see what the republicans are doing to divide families, ruin the environment, and
enrich the most corrupt and think that they're doing anything praiseworthy.
To "Impartial7" how is it Trump's fault for doing what was started
under Clinton, and photographed under Obama? Trump didn't sign the order,
he was only doing his job of executing the law.How about we keep
families locked up together until they can have their hearing or be deported,
would that be better? If we really wanted to do it right, we would set up a
government office just outside the border and hear their cases there and turn
them away if they do not have any merit.
Can we also remember the feeling when you lost your Doctor because of the
ACA.How about we remember how we felt when premiums for Health
Insurance increased because of the ACA.Remember how it felt when
your insurance went from a HMO to a high deductible plan, yet cost the same.Remember how you feel when your spouse comes home form work because
there are those that were killed at work by guns given to drug cartels by the
the Feds.Remember how it feels to hold that newborn, and how there
are those fighting to make it easier to kill babies before they are born.Remember how it feels to have freedom of speech, and how there are now
those on the left fighting to stop you from supporting anything they disagree
with.Remember how it feels to be able to purchase a vehicle because
the push is for cars to cost a lot more.Remember how it felt to be
able to debate unproven scientific points, now you should fear that you cannot
discuss them anymore.
@Newsflash;"Most of the time, they tried to find a relative already in
the country to take the child."Not anymore. Not Trump. Now
they're put in cages. Many will never see their parents again.
I am so ashamed of the government for this.Immigrants crossing the
border are breaking the law, but taking away someone's children is
inhumane. This is wrong and we all know it.
An absolutely excellent letter. Thank you.
Just so we are clear about why children are separated:the 1997 Flores
settlement to a class-action lawsuit from the 1980s surrounding the
“detention and release” of minors taken into custody by the
Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). The settlement demands the release
of children to their parents, relatives, etc. without unnecessary delay. If this
placement is unavailable — e.g., if the child’s parent is a threat
to them or is placed in criminal proceedings, or the supposed parent is only
posing as one — the government must put the child in the “least
restrictive” accommodations that are appropriate for their needs.Most of the time, they tried to find a relative already in the country to take
William (Letter Writer) -"When you hug your children tonight, imagine what
it would feel like to wonder where they are, if you will ever see them again or
if you and your children would ever recover from them being involuntarily
separated."So we are comparing apples to apples here: As you
tuck in your young children at night, and you wonder if you will ever see them
again, because while they are sleeping you are out doing something
"illegal" like robbing a store.You see, Trump didn't
separate those children, the parents did because they did something illegal
(entering the country illegally). You mentioned all our fore fathers coming to
this country earlier. At first, most of the immigrants did not volunteer, they
were forced by the government to leave. Then later they came to this country
going through the legal process.
"involuntarily separated."?If you commit a crime - that was
voluntary - and you go to jail -separate from your childrenThe
initial inflammatory photos used to criticize the Trump administration, were
actually taken during the Obama administration (who set policies that resulted
in massive waves of unaccompanied minors at the border)So yea - I
will remember in November
Well said Karen R. Bob Woodward's book is called 'Fear'.
It's a title taken from something Trump said in a 2016 interview with
Woodward and Washington Post reporter Robert Costa: "Real power
is through respect," Trump said. "Real power is, I don't even want
to use the word: 'Fear.'"That is the motivation behind
the cruel policy of separation. That is the tactic used by this administration.
They know nothing about love and the power it can command.
Thanks for helping keep this issue alive. The fact that Trump, Sessions, Miller,
etc. thought mass sep. of families was a great idea & acceptable to
Americans tells you a lot abt their characters. But their plan now--keeping
families "incarcerated" together indefinitely--isn't much better.
Are we going to tolerate infants & toddlers being kept in prison for yrs,
simply because their parents came here seeking relief from life-threatening
violence & poverty?Trump has the power to make handling imm.
claims a more humane process, by funding more imm. judges to help speed up the
waiting period, & by making it a policy to issue ankle monitors &
release families after initial intake.Both of these are cheaper
alternatives for taxpayers than paying to incarcerate thousands of immigrants in
facilities acceptable for holding children, while waiting for their day in
court--which frequently takes several yrs, due to lack of adequate # of judges
& resulting backlog of cases.But Trump & cohorts have made
the inhumane choices for a reason--as a deterence to keep these unfortunate
souls from "infesting" our country (Trump's word). Now
he's taking money from FEMA to fund his ICE policies.
@Gretschman - Draper, UTSept. 12, 2018 9:40 a.m.@impartial7-Big difference between Japanese Americans and illegal alien invaders." Yeah, but we put American citizens in relocation camps. I'm not for
illegal alien invaders. I'm saying taking away their kids, many never to be
reunited , is barbaric. Just like forced internment for Americans based on their
race. Both are judged harshly.
There was a time when people would say : "stay within the law". That
sentiment is not so popular, anymore, it seems. People entering this country
legally do not have this problem. And the situation is more complicated than has
been stated by the writer. Besides, the policy has been discontinued; and
complications are uncovered in the process, when in some cases parents are not
to be found Question : who really separated the children from their family in
these cases ? And was this happening before the policy was enforced ?
@impartial7-Big difference between Japanese Americans and illegal
alien invaders. Why do the democrats have such an appetite for
unfettered illegal immigration? Separating at the border is not a new policy.
Stop pretending that it is.
The Japanese-American internment camps, one was in Utah, are a stain on American
history and a shameful action. Trump's separating kid's from parents
will be looked upon with equal disdain. As will the GOP politicians that stood
by and did nothing.
I wonder if any person that possesses a heart can not understand the anguish and
torture that the children and parents of those separated by Our Government must
feel. In Our Name, the administration has chosen to adopt an
inhumane and UnConstitutional action. In Fact, are planning to expand the
current facility to hold Seven Times the number of potential Victims of
president trump's Demands currently in custody.This is
Unconscionable. Only the most Hard Hearted on the planet don't get
that.Shame on the Nation for what is done In Our Name. Shame on Us,
What an amazing letter. Thanks for putting it in terms that even Trump
supporters can not twist around.There is truth in what is happening
to this country. Sad the legacy that we are leaving to our children, and future
generations.However this is a good lesson in what not to do to your
fellow human beings. You know, Gods' children and all of our brothers and
sisters. The separation of children ordered by the GOP, Sessions and Trump is
one of the biggest human tragedies we have witnessed in this country.Remember this when you vote. And remember those who have, with cowardice
turned away from what they said in the first place about Trump. Shows a lack of
courage.Party over country, party over morality. Money in their
pockets over the well being of those less fortunate. Not hard to see who those
The zero tolerance policy is the work of fear, tribalism, and lack of
compassion. Vote these people OUT.