Political, geographical divide hurts public lands, Rep. Rob Bishop says

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  • goodnight-goodluck Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 9:49 p.m.

    Political, geographical divide hurts public lands, Says Rob Bishop...
    I would have to counter that what really hurts out public lands are the policies being advanced by Mr. Bishop and his cohorts in the Utah delegation. In their rush to lease and or sell off these lands for commercial development. How much coal dust pollution are we going to see from this newly approved strip mine on the southern border of Bryce Canyon N.P.
    Not to mention the amount of truck traffic to get said coal to any terminal to ship it to market?

  • BobbyPaluga Austin, TX
    Sept. 11, 2018 5:58 p.m.

    While I was in college at Arizona State way back when, the Indians on the reservation in the White Mountains north and east of Phoenix, would clean the debris out of their forests. All the dead trees, brush and overgrown vegetation was cleaned off the forest floor (What forests in the deserts? Yup, Arizona has more forested land than Utah). Then they would burn the piles of dead and rotting wood that couldn’t be cut into firewood, filling the Phoenix valley with smoke so thick airports had to shut down. This went on for a few weeks while you sneezed, eyes waters, and some developed coughs bad enough to force the people to leave the area until it was over.
    I don’t know what the Forest Service allows or doesn’t allow, but it seems to me that before the snow flies anyone with a chain saw and a truck bed should be able to clear all the dead wood they can out of the National Forests or firewood. The fire danger would drop like a rock if such activity existed.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 3:17 p.m.

    Likewise, the comment : "National Parks deteriorated because little or no maintenance was allowed of roads and campgrounds, due to bureaucratic red tape and unending environmental reviews." is completely false.

    It was due to lack of adequate funding, failure to use money from the Lands and Waters Conservation Funds Act and other obstruction by members of Congress -- often led by Rob Bishop -- that has directly produced the maintenance shortfalls of our parks.

    But it's much easier to simply spout GOP talking points than it is to do some research to find the truth behind a claim like that.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 3:12 p.m.

    BigLib - Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 1:08 a.m.
    Eight years of mismanagement of Public Lands by environmentalist under B. Obama led to the destruction of thousands of acres of forest land and range land by uncontrollable fires, due to restrictions on the removal of dead-growth and vegetation.

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    Actually, if a person takes the time and makes the effort to learn the truth, the problem cited here goes clear back to the days of Teddy Roosevelt when everyone believed fire was BAD. The most ardent supporters of total elimination of fire on forest lands were NOT environmentalists, but timber companies.

    Then, even after scientific foresters realized the beneficial role of fire in nature, it was still the timber industry that opposed its use as a management tool. Some environmental organizations joined the battle at first, but in most cases soon became converted to use of fire and joined in supporting it. Then came Congress, forever in debt to large contributors, whose members refused funding for further study and implementation of fire management procedures.

    So blaming this all on the past eight years and Obama is simply false. Fake news?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 3:05 p.m.

    Nothing is more harmful to public lands than Rob Bishop and his friends.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 12:13 p.m.

    BigLib says:

    "Eight years of mismanagement of Public Lands by environmentalist under B. Obama led to the destruction of thousands of acres of forest land and range land by uncontrollable fires, due to restrictions on the removal of dead-growth and vegetation."
    Which is in complete disagreement with the science of forestry and with reality.

    "National Parks deteriorated because little or no maintenance was allowed of roads and campgrounds, due to bureaucratic red tape and unending environmental reviews."
    Again in a battle with reality.

    "Thanks to President Trump, these excessive regulations and reviews have been cut back and our Public lands and Parks are once again being managed for the good of all Americans."
    And this shows what we are dealing with.

    We all need to get out and vote because you know that he/she will and we dont need more trump-like populists getting elected.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 10:08 a.m.

    @CMO Beaver - Beaver, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 9:42 a.m.
    why do we keep voting for this guy"

    Because he belongs to the right "club". That's all that matters to many Utahn's.

  • CMO Beaver Beaver, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 9:42 a.m.

    why do we keep voting for this guy!

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 8:02 a.m.

    When I saw the words; "Bishop and Sutherland Institute" I knew this was going to be a right wing rant on giving away Federal lands. Land owned by all Americans and not just those in Utah.

    Why do Republicans hate the environment so much???

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 4:21 a.m.

    Hosted by the guy who would give away public lands to literally anyone since he doesn’t believe any piece of land should go unexploited

  • BigLib Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 1:08 a.m.

    Eight years of mismanagement of Public Lands by environmentalist under B. Obama led to the destruction of thousands of acres of forest land and range land by uncontrollable fires, due to restrictions on the removal of dead-growth and vegetation. National Parks deteriorated because little or no maintenance was allowed of roads and campgrounds, due to bureaucratic red tape and unending environmental reviews. Thanks to President Trump, these excessive regulations and reviews have been cut back and our Public lands and Parks are once again being managed for the good of all Americans.

  • CrazyUT Ogden, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 10:10 p.m.

    It's all about making money in the short term.

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Sept. 10, 2018 8:20 p.m.

    @ I-7, They are much more interested in taking your public lands and selling them off.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 8:00 p.m.

    The Sutherland institute and Rob Bishop. Gee, I wonder what they are supporting? Oh yeah, logging on Federal lands.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 5:13 p.m.

    The Sutherland Institute and Rob Bishop hurt public lands, and have a history of being dishonest in their speeches about the lands in question.

    Rob outright lied about Obama and Bears Ears, when Obama reached out to Utah's representative about the monument.

    The divide is between those who seek to profit from public lands without proper compensation to the owners, All Americans.