I like analysis of post graduate performance as a metric. Acceptance to grad
school, law and med schools, initial post graduate income are useful if
that's what you want to do. But for science and engineering, it is usual to
compare publications, etc. for faculty quality. Yet as a guy who spent 6 years
in grad school, I can attest that the best researchers are often terrible
teachers. But a terrible lecturer may be a brilliant committee member for grad
students.I attended BYU (1 year), Washington (BA and MS), and Oregon
State (Ph.D.). I had a Post Doc back at Washington, worked in a forest research
lab and became a professor at Yale. My schools were good for what I wanted to
do.So, where you go depends on what you want to do. My take:
hundreds of schools are good in something. That should influence your choice.
These little rankings might be good for getting that first job. Otherwise, most
schools in the US are pretty good. They all teach; it is up to the student to
maximize the value of the education.
@ Thomas Jefferson, Google, “How U S News calculated the 2019 best
These 'rankings', be they college, city, or whatever, are silly,
arbitrary, and mostly a baseless way to get a few clicks*...and it worked. I
clicked. *Formerly known as 'sell a few magazines'.
Of the top 500 universities in the US, the Wall Street Journal ranked BYU 135
although their outcome of graduation and starting salaries ranked 46, UofU was
187th and Westminster was further down. No other Utah universities were listed.
It is also helpful to note that schools that are open admission tend not to be
included in most rankings.
@Enough is enough! - Saint George, UTSept. 10, 2018 2:57 p.m.It makes one wonder why Utah and Colorado were invited into the PAC 12. We all
know the answer and it isn't for academic prowess.*********Could it be because they're God's chosen people?
Matlas,Do you think that the University of Utah or BYU is the
outlier when it comes to tuition costs?
It makes one wonder why Utah and Colorado were invited into the PAC 12. We all
know the answer and it isn't for academic prowess.
@ute alumni - there's more to college than sports...and it looks like the U
was #110 last year, clearly that's not 'moving up.'As
for the U, I'm just not sure what they're doing on the hill. Double
the ranking of BYU and double the tuition, the math doesn't add up.
My High School is ranked higher than Weber St
It is always fun to see the excitement and angst these rankings generate. It is
also useful to give a gentle reminder that while local news sources generally
focus on the US News ranking, there are other ranking services that are just as
reputable if not more so, including Time Higher Education, QS, etc. The results
can be very different depending on the ranking service criteria.
Hey wait a minute before the celebration begins, BYU is not in PAC 12.
Doesn’t that count for something? Go 119. We’re moving up.