@London Josh--And if finding an LDS HC seems to be an impossibility, which out
of millions I don't see why it would be, the approving group who signs off
on the HC could just as easily have a non-LDS guy do it.There are
millions of LDS guys who could coach a major college football program?
I love how prior to playing Arizona AzzUte was sure that BYU would eat
Tate's dust all night and can't compete - and now Arizona is simply a
bad team.then the comment on Kalani - I guess it's nearly
impossible to find a guy who wants to earn $1M a year playing football - tough
to find, right? If Kalani needs to be replaced he'll easily be replaced.
And if finding an LDS HC seems to be an impossibility, which out of millions I
don't see why it would be, the approving group who signs off on the HC
could just as easily have a non-LDS guy do it.Junk comments lacking
in reason and consistency, meanwhile how's Utah doing? Not really that
“but we saw more spark in Arizona than all of last year
combined.”Spark? Against that U of A utter disaster?UH saw a “spark” against U of A, to the tune of a 4 TD
differential, w/16 of U of A’s 18 points coming w/their 1s against
UH’s backups.....Conversely, byu beat them by merely 5 points.“Wait until the soft part of the schedule so the kid will look great,
and the fans can be all optimistic for next year.”Soft?
usu/NIU/UH/Umass should very well most likely all be Ls, particularly against
usu/NIU.We’ll see, they might actually have a shot against
UH/Umass.But hey, @ least there’s always Nmsu @ home to look
forward to—LolAnd we all know 8 straight & counting is an
unequivocal certainty, period.Go Utes!
It would be foolish to throw Wilson out there right now, because the Cougars are
playing some tough teams and the QB is sure to take a beating. Wait until the
soft part of the schedule so the kid will look great, and the fans can be all
optimistic for next year.
“Sitake's job is on the line this season. He needs to inspire the
troops to fight harder or he will be fired.”I always chuckle @
this sentiment, as if byu had a looping line of replacement HCs waiting in the
wings or something.Who, exactly, do any of you making this
proclamation think could be his replacement?Btw, Cal was
unequivocally the better team, byu’s margin of defeat moral victory
notwithstanding.....And UW covers the spread, w/ease.
I don't always agree with Sooner - but this is the best comment on the
board:"SoonerUte - Salt Lake City, UTSept. 10, 2018 9:38
a.m.After 2 games, fans have already lost sight of the goals for this
season.1) win 1 of AZ, Cal, Wis, UW, but hope for 2 or more.2)
turn 4 win season to 4 loss season3) find a bowl openingDespite impatient fans, BYU is still on track. You expected to lose to AZ but
win Cal. It flipped. So what? Why jump horses to an unknown? Wilson has talent,
but absolutely zero experience at the next level. You believe he will be a
miracle, but realistically, that inexperience will cost games. It might cost
bowl eligibility. Jerry Palm has the Cougars on track for the Independence Bowl
in Shreveport. Do you really want to risk that?"This is not
"the worst season since the 60's" - we don't know who BYU is,
but we saw more spark in Arizona than all of last year combined.There is a lot of season left - we'll have a new QB inevitably anyway
because Tanner is a senior, give it time, get this team to gel as a group, there
are 10 games left, 8 winnable and 6 that we might be favored in.
Nobody gives BYU a chance, which is why they have one.
Yeah I'm going to be the only one to say it BYU beats Wisconsin this
week. I already bet some dude Rolex watches trumpet lessons. It's gonna be sweeeeeet!
I've had it! It is time for a quarterback change! Give the freshman a
chance. He will lead us to the promised land. Taysom Hill is not the guy.
Give Magnum a chance. He is the best QB that BYU has had in
years.............Oh, wait a minute, that was 3 years ago. Sorry.
CAL was unequivocally the better team, byu’s margin of defeat moral
victory notwithstanding.“Sitake's job is on the line this
season. He needs to inspire the troops to fight harder or he will be
fired.”I always chuckle @ this sentiment, as if byu-p had a
looping line of replacement HCs waiting in the wings or something.Who, exactly, do any of you making this proclamation think could even remotely
be his replacement? This is not a rhetorical question.
I think Tanner needs to relax and not give up the defense that California had is
better than we will not see after September . I think Byu will be better than
last year . I really hope That BYU ofincive line can help to keep Tanner from
You all are crazy. Wanting a new QB for the Wisconsin game. Sure put in a true
freshman, let him take the beat down and ruin his confidence for ever. Let
Magnum take the beat down. Come on man, think about it.
If you would have said BYU will be 1-2 after there first three games you would
have taken it. A lot of people assumed 0-3 was very likely. They still should
win 6+ games and qualify for a bowl game.
A good coach always says he didn’t prepare his team well enough to win,
and he never points fingers at the kids. Sitake still hasn’t seen that
memo. He blames everyone but himself. He’s not a very good motivator, and
is not a very good coach. This will be his last year.
Good coaches always say that they didn’t prepare their team well enough. A
at long last...“I get very tired of the fans and the DN
writers bloviating about the difficulty of BYU’s schedule...”I get very tired of Utah fans pretending that BYU’s schedule is a
piece of cake.The Utes would lose at least 4 or 5 games playing
BYU’s 2018 schedule.
It makes little sense to throw a Freshman QB to the wolves against Wisconsin.Even if BYU’s offense had been humming versus Cal, there’s
little chance that BYU could have pulled off the upset at Wisconsin.Better to let Mangum see what he can do versus the Badgers, and if that turns
out to be a disaster, then start Wilson at home versus McNeese State.
That game against Cal should have been a huge wake-up call for our players. Guys
have got to put in maximum effort and focus in every practice in order to be
ready for games. If they slack off at all and don't take this seriously
then they'll continue to have more games like Cal that they
coulda/shoulda/woulda won and embarrass themselves.I'm not
expecting us to beat Wisconsin this week but I am expecting them to play better
and make Wisconsin work hard to get a win. Who knows maybe a miracle will happen
and we'll win this one, but only if they work hard and go in there 100%
I agree that Sitaki's job is on the line here, and should be. We have not
had a worse program since I was a freshman at BYU in the late 60's. Problem number one: Mangum is not the man. How many chances do you give
a guy that should be passed over after so many bad games?Beyond that
I would like to understand why the BYU coaches think it is fine to just take a
knee at the end of the first half when they have the ball with time still on the
clock and there is even the possibility of a chance to make the big play with
one more pass? What is this? I don't get it.And same for the
last play of the game. Why are you taking a knee? I say, go for it. Do a hail
Mary in the end zone. If the game is lost otherwise, what do you have to lose?
Come on! Make every last play count!
Sitake's job is on the line this season. He needs to inspire the troops to
fight harder or he will be fired.
After two games, the red and blue teams are rather similar as they each prepare
for UW.Both have O-Line and quarterback problems, not likely to be
fixed this week.Both have better than expected defenses, but neither
D can score enough to secure a win for their respective team.Both
UW's get the victory this week. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't
think I will be.
So the first issue is to what extent are the mistakes (explained by players and
coaches as “miscommunications” and “missed assignments”)
correctable now. Fall camp is over. The second issue is whether
even with a complete correction of all such mistakes, can the Cougar beat the
Badger?Unfortunately, the score against Cal is misleading. Without
Dayan’s 30 yard fumble recovery romp, the game was not really close.
Wisconsin will look at California’s D sets in the second half will
replicate them.This is where we see what Coach Grimes is really made
of. Good luck, boys.
After 2 games, fans have already lost sight of the goals for this season.1) win 1 of AZ, Cal, Wis, UW, but hope for 2 or more.2) turn 4 win
season to 4 loss season3) find a bowl openingDespite impatient
fans, BYU is still on track. You expected to lose to AZ but win Cal. It
flipped. So what? Why jump horses to an unknown? Wilson has talent, but
absolutely zero experience at the next level. You believe he will be a miracle,
but realistically, that inexperience will cost games. It might cost bowl
eligibility. Jerry Palm has the Cougars on track for the Independence Bowl in
Shreveport. Do you really want to risk that?
I agree with @Cougarbib2. This was more of a beat down at the coaching level
than it was a beat down on the field. The players could and should be better
than they looked Saturday, but this game was winnable by a more competent
coaching staff.After two games, the prognosis for a
"recovery" year is not good. Unless something changes, dramatically, BYU
looks like a 5 game winner at best this year.
Why in the world did BYU run that fake taking a knee at the end of the first
half? They were deep in their own territory with no time on the clock. Why
would you show the world you even practice that. Poor coaching at its best.
Cherry picking what plays you keep and what plays you throw out is one of the
silliest thinks fans on this comment board do. Changing one play changes all
after it. BYU was very lucky to have a few turnovers in the 2nd half (seven
points from one) otherwise it would have been a blowout.BYU did not
look past CAL, CAL is just better along with Wisconsin, Washington, Boise State,
USU and Utah. You can probably also put NIU in that category as well.
I get very tired of the fans and the DN writers bloviating about the difficulty
of byu's schedule. If they were P5 they would have a minimum of 8 games
against P5 teams (not many are as pitifully weak as Arizona). This team has,
what? 5 or 6 games against P5 teams. Big deal -NOT.
@Cougarbib2 - Moorpark, CASept. 9, 2018 11:37 p.m."Anyone
that thinks replacing Mangum fixes the problem we saw Saturday should be warded
an honorary masters degree in over simplification."OK, my car
has a lot of problems. There is a squeak, it pulls to the right and sometimes
overheats. But it also has a blown gasket and won't turn over. Fixing the
blown gasket won't make the other problems go away, but at least the car
will start and I can drive it.Mangum started as a freshman because
we had no choice and he was not good. Many called for him to start over Hill
his sophomore season, and we see what a mistake that would have been. Last year
he was down right awful.I was willing to give him a chance this year
as I thought Grimes might be able to "manage" his limitations. The
first game he did. The second game he was exposed for the Division II QB that
he is. Time to move on: Mangum with his life outside of football and
BYU with a new QB that has a chance to make us competitive against good treams.
Once again, the most popular player on the team is the backup quarterback. Cougar fans need to accept reality with this team. The problems won't be
fixed overnight and certainly not by replacing Mangum and starting over with a
new QB. With the schedule they are facing, the most likely outcome for
this season, (if they play well,) will be 6-6. If they really get things
sorted, 7-5 could be plausible. Either outcome would be positive and a
step forward, in my opinion. To expect more is unrealistic.
BYU was 1 pass catch short of winning the game against Cal. The line game
was sloppy, the tackling was suspect, a few of the play calls were not awesome,
and it seemed like BYU over looked Cal but the bottom line is that BYU was 1
catch short of winning the game against Cal and there were 3 drops which would
have made the difference. Catch the ball! Go Cougars, play physical, beat
I was disappointed that Grimes gave up on the run so early. The game was close
and there was no rush to change the game plan. Also it is obvious that the
Mangum has not matured into the QB that many thought . Watch the passing
plays,he had the time but instead bailed out of the pocket instead stepping up
into it . He was twisting, turning and running before he let the plays develope
and go through his professions. He may not be ready for this .
@cjd1The 22-point spread actually sounds about right if not even a
bit too friendly to Wisconsin. The Vegas line-setters apparently recognize that
Wisconsin is not going to pound us like they did last year. The
Wisconsin-New Mexico game was significantly closer than the score would suggest
and New Mexico is not a good team. New Mexico gave Wisconsin a lot of trouble
in the first half (before NM had to play its third-string QB because their
starter was injured and their usual second string QB had a prior injury). I don't think think that there is much chance of us beating
Wisconsin, but having watched some of the top ranked teams play for the past 2
weeks I think that Wisconsin really is a top-20, but not top-10, team (and,
yeah, I know that they have one #1 vote in the poll). I think that
we will beat the spread.
I have to agree with you guys. The real issue, I think, is mobility. Tanner
doesn't move well after his Achilles injury. I always record the games, and
watched it carefully yesterday. The team overlooked Cal and didn't seem
prepared. So it is not all on Tanner, but clearly, while he has a strong arm,
he's pretty much a statue.I was at the game and thought the
zebras were really stacking the deck. I reviewed every call Sunday and they were
all good. The Big 12 refs did not job the Cougars. Of course, Coach Sitake knows
what is really going on. I believe Tanner is part of the issue, but the biggest
issue is that the team took Cal lightly and simply weren't prepared. Cal
will beat some teams this year. Nobody expects to beat Wisconsin, including
every Wisconsin player. They will take BYU lightly.Time to try out
Zach and get tough. They'll be expecting another easy game.
I like Tanner but he isn't getting the job done. It would not have hurt
anything to put in Wilson for a series or two to get some momentum back in a
totally winnable game. Wilson is the future, but his time is now.
Anyone that thinks replacing Mangum fixes the problem we saw Saturday should be
warded an honorary masters degree in over simplification. We had
huge issues with blocking and dropped passes. Coaching decisions on 3rd and 4th
down situations cost us at least 2 field goals. Think about what a difference
3-6 points would have made.Blocking for the run game and pass
protection was poor. And, from what I observed at the game, two CAL
touchdowns came on blown coverage issues. Other than those two blown coverage
issues, the defense did enough to win this game. I have hope that play by our
DBS will improve. But, just look at the photo of the pass to Dylan
Collie that he dropped - right on the money. I think our receivers were hearing
@jello is goodI’m totally with you...please Kalani....give the
youngster a try. Mangum is just not the guy. The longer you stay with him, the
more likely BYU repeats last years mess...that won’t be good for Cougar
nation ....and your job security. No doubt he will make some freshman
mistakes, but fans will accept that ....more than a senior, making freshman
mistakes. Mangum says the right things....but repeatedly fails when the pressure
is on. He is also moves slow when he has an open field in front of him. We have
seen that all too many times. Give the kid a try...and start building something
The line opened at -22 Wisconsin. I would take out a second mortgage on
Please, please, please... new qb please?
Sadly this will be a beat down of epic proportions! I’m betting that this
will be Mangums final start as a Cougar.