The week in journalism in Donald Trump's America

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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Sept. 11, 2018 11:33 a.m.

    To "Impartial7" what about the DNC, it is forbidden to question authority.

    To "unrepentant progressive" that is why Clinton lost. She and her party "seeks only vindication for its singular unprovable views which assuage the fragile ego of its leaders and believes in a "spoils" system into which only the favored view share in the riches (temporal and otherwise) of the country."

    To "one old man" it isn't news because it is the same that Obama did during his presidency, and what every president and presidential candidate has done when doing a photo op.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Sept. 11, 2018 8:39 a.m.

    Andrew Bacevich wrote this:

    "So here’s the upshot of it all: if you were basically okay with where America was headed prior to November 2016, just take a deep breath and think of Donald Trump as the political equivalent of a kidney stone — not fun, but sooner or later, it will pass. And when it does, normalcy will return. Soon enough you’ll forget it ever happened.

    If, on the other hand, you were not okay with where America was headed in 2016, it’s past time to give up the illusion that Donald Trump is going to make things right. Eventually a pimple dries up and disappears, often without leaving a trace. Such is the eventual destiny of Donald Trump as president."

    I am tired of the tweeter tirades coming from the president, and the ongoing battles over his personality and presidency. IMHO, this says it all.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 6:49 p.m.

    @Say No....

    "The customer they seek is young, dark, female...with a knit cap pulled over her hair. Or a 20-something black man."

    Why would you say such a thing.

    "No, Donald Trump is not a moral paragon. But, as a leader, his performance is unparalleled in the modern era."

    May I suggest you look at facts. If you like Trump's economic numbers you have to love what occurred under Obama. In the final six years under Obama job creation averaged eight percent higher that during Trumps first 19 months. And this was before the tax cut and now increased deficits. Check out the statistics from the BLS web site.

    So we should be grateful for what Obama started.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 12:04 p.m.

    @counter intelligence
    "at a snails pace - until Obama was out of the way"

    Again, data disagrees with you.

    The 12000+ point climb of the Dow from 2009 through the end of 2016 was the largest growth of the Dow average during any single President's term.

    In contrast, the Dow has flattened under Trump since the beginning of 2018, and he now holds the title for presiding over the largest and second largest single-day point drops in the history of the Dow.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 11:05 a.m.

    @one old man .
    "Meanwhile in Montana, a high school senior is removed from the display of adoring trump fans standing behind him during a speech for not being "enthusiastic enough" and failing to applaud on cue."

    No: he was removed because he was wearing a Democratic Socialists Of America pin on his plaid shirt.

    @Impartial7
    "Yeah, but not in Utah. It's frowned upon to question authority."

    I see people question authority all the time; but I suppose for devotees of PC Culture, failure to conform to fashionable extremism is deemed being someone else's sheep - because the most strident PCers simply cant comprehend that other people question them and their authority.

    @ unrepentant progressive
    As long as you define "truth" as conformity to your bias, you will continue to be disappointed (for example: sometimes the sky is red - particularly when full of smoke from wildfires enhanced by ongoing environmentally extremist forest management practices))
    FYI: Much the same complaints you have about Trump were made and quantifiable regarding Obama

    @silo
    "The dow has been climbing since 2009. " at a snails pace - until Obama was out of the way and impediments were lifted

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 10, 2018 7:05 a.m.

    Newspapers have always been about a message, usually a political one, subsidized by ads and subscriptions. But the days of fish wrappers and cage liners are gone. It's all about clicks and how long you stay on the page.

    The audience can be found out by looking at the bands tucked between stories. Get the news delivered to your in-box. But the photo isn't of a 65+ customer in a fishing hat with lures poking out of it.

    The customer they seek is young, dark, female...with a knit cap pulled over her hair. Or a 20-something black man.

    Sadly for the DN, readers have options. A disagreement over the editorials, a pay wall or rejected comments can send readers somewhere else.

    That's the real test of journalism today. They have always taken sides, but now defections can occur at lightning speed.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 9:15 p.m.

    @herbert gravy
    "it is laughable to think that Barack Obama had anything to do with our booming economy"

    It's only 'laughable' if you aren't objective, or if you are unable to read an XY chart.

    The dow has been climbing since 2009. This is clear on any line chart with the dow average on the X axis and the year on the Y axis.

    The unemployment rate has been falling since 2009. This is also clear on any line chart with the unemployment rate on the X axis and the year on the Y axis.

    The only chart that Trump has had any obvious impact on is the deficit. Unfortunately his impact is that he has turned around Obama's reduction of the deficit because he passed tax cuts without enacting equal or greater spending cuts.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 3:49 p.m.

    Meanwhile in Montana, a high school senior is removed from the display of adoring trump fans standing behind him during a speech for not being "enthusiastic enough" and failing to applaud on cue.

    Only our free press is standing between trump's unreality show and reality.

    We need good journalists now more than ever before.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 3:39 p.m.

    The right to print does not validate content.

    The Bill of Rights protects the right to publish, but it does not make your words true.

    The noble statements of your masthead does not make the stories true.

    Surely an opinion by some unknown person, perhaps fictional, does not mean it is true.

    There is no standard. No punishment for lies. Publishing gives others some misplaced authority to reprint it, lending mystical credence to the whole.

    As intended by the Founders, each will go on believing what they will. And a tarnished industry goes on, claiming they are the source of truth.

    In reality, they are as trusted as...politicians.

  • peabody Steamboat Springs, CO
    Sept. 9, 2018 2:55 p.m.

    The Aspen Daily News motto is: "if you don't want it printed, don't let it happen".
    In a few words this is the essence of journalism and of a free press.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Sept. 9, 2018 2:47 p.m.

    No, I don't believe that most of us conservatives are BLIND followers of President Trump.

    Most of us don't like the immoral things he has done in his life. Many of us have our own imperfections to deal with.

    What we do embrace is his awesome job performance. And, it is laughable to think that Barack Obama had anything to do with our booming economy.

    Would it have occurred to him to cut taxes, pursue fair international trade deals, insist that NATO members pay their fair share or confront North Korea and Iran? Apparently not.

    No, Donald Trump is not a moral paragon. But, as a leader, his performance is unparalleled in the modern era.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Sept. 9, 2018 9:26 a.m.

    The party of trump is left with this dubious claim: "The jobs and unemployment numbers alone speak volumes about his (trump's) unparalleled vision and capability".

    First of all, the jobs and unemployment numbers are but a continuation of the Obama years. Years, I hasten to add, that brought us out of the greatest recession since the Great Depression.

    Secondly, I would add that the American public is being told that the tenuous hold on recovery depends on the reactionary politics of the trump administration. This is a claim that can never be substantiated. However, IMHO, it is a claim that asks us to sacrifice our Constitutional principles for a few pieces of silver.

    Therefore, trump'ism is a philosophy riding on the backs of others' accomplishments, asking us to sacrifice our morality/ethics/democratic way of life for the almighty dollar. How very sad, indeed.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 9:01 a.m.

    'Here in America,' he said, 'We do not pay obeisance to the powerful — in fact, we question the powerful most ardently; to do so is our birthright and a requirement of our citizenship.'”

    This is journalism's most fundamental precept. If journalists did not ask tough questions and shine light in the darkness, our country would be upside down in a ditch, miles away from help.

  • DarthMaul Vernal, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 8:41 a.m.

    All career Senators from the cold war era need to be voted out. It is them who are making the swamp in Washinton DC become even swampier and muddier, making our Beloved Motherland United States of America stuck in her track. This current sitting POTUS doesn't own the United States of America and even though he capitalized on draining the swamp idea, he is part of it through his Super Pac dealings with the powerful career politicians. It is time to cast our votes to wash out all the career politicians who have been on the Senate floor for over 40 plus years.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 9, 2018 8:33 a.m.

    “Journalism” is not a branch of government

    Is there a group more self-important than the commentary class?

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Sept. 9, 2018 7:54 a.m.

    How sad that in the era of president trump, we can not agree on what is true. IMHO, if president trump declared that the sky was indeed the color red, the vast majority of his supporters would "fight to the death" to convince the rest of us that the sky is indeed red, despite the overwhelming, easily visible evidence otherwise.

    We live in parallel, but unequal, universes in this country. One universe strives for universal truth and justice for all. The other universe seeks only vindication for its singular unprovable views which assuage the fragile ego of its leaders and believes in a "spoils" system into which only the favored view share in the riches (temporal and otherwise) of the country.

    How very sad that a political party and a singular person could drive the country to that disparity.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Sept. 9, 2018 7:37 a.m.

    Of course, it is OUR America. Every citizen.

    Donald Trump is "merely" the current President and has done a great job of reversing the trajectory of prior administrations.

    The jobs and unemployment numbers alone speak volumes about his unparalleled vision and capability.

    Hopefully, Republican majorities in the House and Senate can be expanded to ensure continued prosperity and safety for our grandchildren.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Sept. 8, 2018 10:10 p.m.

    Extremely important correction:

    We are NOT "Trump's America"!!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 8, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    "“'Here in America,' he said, 'We do not pay obeisance to the powerful — in fact, we question the powerful most ardently; to do so is our birthright and a requirement of our citizenship.'”

    Yeah, but not in Utah. It's frowned upon to question authority.