“Arizona St. beat Michigan St. Guess that means the PAC12 South is
better than the entire BIG10.”And CU beat NU on the road.
Mr. Boris - Layton, UTSept. 9, 2018 1:24 p.m.Wall banger,I also agree with you.The AAC is better than the PAC 12 south.I think that is the point you were making when bringing up how much
better Houston is than Arizona._____More PAC12 envy from a
bitter BYU fan.So now you are comparing an entire G5 conference to a P5
division?Arizona St. beat Michigan St. Guess that means the
PAC12 South is better than the entire BIG10.
@ BorrisIn your last post post to me (8 in a row!), you mentioned
‘BYU’ 8 or more times. Interesting to say the least. In
my post to you I never did mention your favorite team by name. It’s easy to stand by my statement... It only takes a partial team to
beat your favorite team: (1) a good defense and (2) a good kicking game. See
utemythology “As compared to 3 points at home against a weak
Cal team.”BYU scored 18 points against a P12 team; Utah only
scored 17 points against a MAC team.What proof do you have that Cal
isn’t better than Utah?Don’t even bother posting some
dubious ranking from an opinion poll this early in the season.
@Mr. Boring Lucky for the Utes the PAC 12 south is so bad that they
have a really good chance to win the division.-----As a
Utah "alum" who calls it like he sees it, please share with us why you
feel Utah is lucky playing an easy schedule in the South like this:@
#9 Stanford#10 Washington #20 Oregon #22 USC@ #23 ASU@ #30 ColoradoHow is the South weak when 4 out of 6 (67%) South
teams are ranked in top 30? Plus we play the 3 top teams from the
UU - Provo, UTSept. 9, 2018 1:11 a.m.At this point in the season
i’d Rank Utah 4th in the South. 1- ASU2- Colorado 3- USC4- Utah5- UCLA6- ArizonaIf the holy war
was played today, Utah barely has the edge.... ----You
mena Utah State "barley has the edge"?According to ESPN, as
of today Utah has a 85% edge.
u played a horrible game and won. u couldn't run the ball against a MAC
opponent. Rushing 39 times for a 1.7 average won't win a single game in
the pac12. u'll probably squeak out two or three wins, but it looks to me
like it's another losing record in the conference.
8 in a row,Do you people read or comprehend the comments?I sarcastically said 10 points against a MAC team is impressive. I said
absolutely nothing about BYU.I wasn't comparing BYU and Utah.
Not every observation about Utah is related to BYU.Like I've
said before, I am a U of U alum but Utah fans are just so obsessed with BYU is
is embarrassing.I make a comment about Utah's poor offense and
you automatically assume that BYU is my team. I never went to BYU. I actually
went to Utah and Utah State and BYU is not "my team". I don't have
a team, I just call it as I see it and Utah and BYU both have terrible offenses.
Boris:“I’m a U of U alum so I’m not sure what you
are talking about when you say “ your cougs”. Where did I talk about
BYU in my post?”You didn’t have to. You ARE a coug fan,
as has been obvious in many, many of your posts. That’s why I referenced
“your cougs”. You don’t like the Utes! “Alum” or
Good thing Utah has a defense
The Utah game was very typical. The Utes seem to always play to the level of
their opponents. Utah traditionally is in every game and rarely gets blown out.
This was a huge game for NIU and the motivational level I would guess was higher
for the Huskies than the Utes, it should never be different, but the press
spends the week wondering why the Utes are even playing NIU, that has to impact
the players minds and attitudes. Meanwhile in Provo, it was very apparent that
BYU lacks the speed of a power five team. California won that game on speed
alone. I thought Magnum looked like the same very unconfident player against
Arizona as he did again against the Bears and previous seasons. Cal deserved to
win that game as they outplayed BYU from start to finish. Arizona is not a good
team, but lost mostly to not knowing what BYU was going to run on offense. With
a week and actual game tape, Cal clearly was ready and that proved to be
obvious. The sky is not falling in Salt Lake, but with less than average
opponents left to play on the BYU schedule (minus Wisconsin and Utah) a bowl
game looks to be a tough reach as Utah State and Northern Illinois are now
looking like loses for Provo.
I live near NIU and took my son to the game. I don't believe Huntley should
be getting so much flack. NIUs defensive front really ripped the Utah O line.
You won't do all that well with a line like I saw last night. Maybe this
game will wake them up for Washington. Don't expect a victory though or a
@ Mr. Boris - Layton, UTSept. 8, 2018 9:32 p.m.“10
offensive points against a MAC team. That's impressive.”Just remember, all Utah needs to beat your team is their defense and one
kicker to show up. In fact, the Utes might just leave their offense home this
year. The team is tired of spotting its apponents a dozen or more points a game
with their inept offense.
Wall banger,I also agree with you.The AAC is better than
the PAC 12 south.I think that is the point you were making when
bringing up how much better Houston is than Arizona.
Wall banger,I’m a U of U alum so I’m not sure what you
are talking about when you say “ your cougs”. Where did I talk
about BYU in my post?I was talking about the weakness of the PAC 12
south. What does BYU have to do with Utah scoring 10 points against a MAC game
team? I said nothing about BYU.What is with Ute fans falling back
on BYU’s performance when the Utes play poorly? But since you
mentioned it I agree.BYU and Utah both have terrible offenses.
I love the arrogance displayed by Mr. borris as he knocks the MAC conference and
NIU, while apparently not knowing who the cougs play on October 27th.Youuuuu, gotta love it, baby. 😹
Defense wanted to stay vanilla Saturday, but the team overall wasn’t good
enough and had to show some of their hand to Washington in the second half to
win that game.Had the O Line played to even 80% of expectations, the
defense could have stayed Vanilla and we would have still got the win. Amazing that we’ve had so many O Line problems two years in a row. Huntleys numbers were good. One less drop and an average O Line would
have allowed us to have a comfortable win. Not much time to coach the linemen
Tough win, but a W nonetheless. Winners find a way to pull out this tough wins,
others, not so much!
GoGetter - Sandy, UT "Utah hasn't proven that they are good enough to
beat BYU yet."What has BYU done to prove it can beat Utah?Sagarin has NIU at #70, Arizona #74, and BYU #78.
I said earlier in the week if Utah had trouble putting NIU away it could spell
trouble for the season. They had trouble, and that means trouble coming. Huntley wasn’t awful, but he wasn’t at all aggressive. Ended
up with a good passing line, but he left a lot of potential on the field by not
getting rid of the ball, and the receivers left a lot on the field in the form
of dropped passes. If the defense is teeing off on Moss and trying
to injure him with alligator rolls, rotate the backfield more and keep him safe.
But the OL is the biggest disappointment, no push in short yardage
against physically outmatched opponents, bad protection again in field goal
attempts, and SO slow in pass protection. There should be an open competition in
Tuesday’s and Wednesday’s practices this week; Barton and Agasiva in
particular didn’t get it done. Defense was great again, but
against a better QB, who knows?Not looking great going into probably
the toughest season’s test against UW, but maybe they can shore things up.
Outside of the 3 easy non conference game this Utah team and that offense line
may be hard pressed to become bowl eligible.
Look, BYU fans have no business putting down the Utes poor performance. And
Utah has no business putting down the Cougs poor performance... however I
certainly don't consider No Illinois to be of the same caliber as Cal. Looks like another lackluster season for both teams!I think
fans of both teams should start eating a large serving of humble pie and layoff
the instate attacks.
Sparkly Briefs:"If BYU played Utah next week, the ideal strategy for
either team appears to be to punt on first down and let the other team’s
inept offense create a disaster to capitalize on."Nailed it.
Best comment on both games in one sentence. It's going to be a long year on
the hill and in Provo if these offenses can't put together any semblance of
consistency. And while I like Huntley and Mangum as people, they will not be the
QBs to take the Utes or Cougs to anything special. Sometimes you gotta do the
gutsy thing, and pull a "Saban" and give the next guy up an opportunity
to spark the offense. It's unwatchable right now.
Utah won. That’s all that matters right now.
Same old Utah team, win with defense and special teams. Difference this special
teams aren’t very special. This team is so so hard to watch. Utah, needs a
lot of things to change. Why does Whit always get a pass when he has a losing
record in conference play. His offense is offensive. He coaches special teams
and they aren’t very special.
junkgeek,I must have missed BYU laying an egg because I was too
mezmorized at the absolute joke of an offense that Utah possesses.
Despite all the doom and gloom, the Utes covered the Vegas point spread and
brought home the win. Did they look like they could go toe-to-toe with
Washington. No. But you play each game, each week and a win, is a win, is a
Another year, more of the same. Utah leans on their defense to squeak out an
ugly win.That game was pathetic. The 2 All American kickers got
thoroughly outplayed by the 2 kickers on the other team, the O line that
returned 4 starters was atrocious, the returning QB continued to over throw most
of his deep targets, and he stayed in the pocket WAY too long all night, which
helped attribute to the 6 sacks, and when he put balls on the money the highly
touted, overrated group of receivers continued to drop balls all night. I think this NIU team is underrated, but this Utah team is severely
overrated. They are the same team they've always been under Whittingham,
only with a way worse special teams unit. Great defense that is
continually put in tough spots all night and routinely tasked with winning the
game, alongside a putrid offense. Some things never change. Except that the
usually exceptional special teams is now on par with the annually weak offense.
Like others, I think we were very lucky. First, our offensive line played like
they where a junior college line. Second, our defensive line was better than
the offense but not that much better. Our quarterback was not impressive at all
not to mention our running game. Let's not talk about our kicking game.
With the exception of just a few players, I have no idea where all the talent
went. We have now watched two games with teams of lessor talent that have made
the Ute's look bad in one way or another. Are these players serious about
playing their best?
The starting QB has as many rushes as the rest of the team combined? The Utes
have a stable of running backs? Happy feet and still no touch on the ball which
contributes to dropped passes?Two biggest cupcakes of the season
behind... still not enough reps for the so called backup QB. Perhaps
there are just too many pretty boys on offense. The Utes offense
could show up and make it a game against Washington but they will have a hard
time staying focused over 9 real opponents. This team has a lot of
work to do. Two blocked field goals this season? With this offense they deserve
to be ranked about 55.
A couple of points.NIU is a really good team, particularly on the
defensive side of the ball. The Iowa game was 3-0 midway through the third
quarter. Add to this they were at home and stoked to have P5 team coming in.
Those are the games Utah used to thrive on.The offense really needs
to pick it up, because that type of performance won't cut it in conference.
In spite of all the carping for disgruntled BYU fans, Colorado showed well, ASU
beat MSU, Oregon and Washington rolled; Stanford looked good and USC will come
along by the time we play them. Even WSU looks tougher today. Only Zona
appears to be the soft spot (which may explain the BYU win).
If BYU played Utah next week, the ideal strategy for either team appears to be
to punt on first down and let the other team’s inept offense create a
disaster to capitalize on.
I saw nothing from either team that makes me think BYU will beat Utah. Both
have a lot of work to do. I hope to see improvement on both teams before they
Though BYU's offense didn't look all that great, they did a lot more
than Utah's offense over the first 2 games against better competition than
Utah did against Weber St and NIU.I also think BYU wins this year.
Utah hasn't proven that they are good enough to beat BYU yet. Good thing
they aren't playing week 3, it would be another ugly game with nobody
having anything to brag about.
It's never ugly when you win on the road......er.....almost never.
At this point in the season i’d Rank Utah 4th in the South. 1-
ASU2- Colorado 3- USC4- Utah5- UCLA6- ArizonaIf the holy war was played today, Utah barely has the edge.... Utah by 3
with the game going down to the last possession.
NIU’s a solid opponent, particularly @ their place, w/a consensus
all-american on D, who’ll win a bunch of games, including quite possibly
winning @ mediocre Florida State in 2 weeks.We have glaring
deficiencies along our veteran O-Line to address this week leading up to our
showdown against an outstanding UW team.I’m optimistic
we’ll accomplish it & have a great chance @ defeating them in our
official blackout game this year!Go Utes!
Mr. Boris:Now that your cougs lost to Cal at home, and beat a PAC 12
team last week that was destroyed by Houston,...are you predicting a win against
NIU? Or did you forget that your cougs play them as well?
Based on the body of work, BYU beats Utah? What? Did anyone see BYU lay an egg
tonight? Based on the body of work, BYU loses to Utah State by three TDs and
Utah by 2.
Mr. Boris - Layton, UTSept. 8, 2018 10:34 p.m.10 offensive points
against a MAC team. That's impressive.Lucky for the Utes that
they are in the PAC 12 south because they have a really good chance to win the
division because the PAC 12 south is the worst division in any P5 conference.----As compared to 3 points at home against a weak Cal
team.No, USC is lucky since Utah plays Stanford, Washington and
Oregon. USC just Stanford.
UoU 1991 - Park City, UTSept. 8, 2018 10:04 p.m.The Utes were
extremely lucky that were able to avoid the upset.----I
disagree. It's no luck that the defense is outstanding. They have real good
talent and coaching on defense.The offense, excluding Covey, did the
bare minimum to pull out a win.
Wow we looked bad, the D definitely won the game for us. The offense was bad and
the O line was awful. We better learn quickly otherwise conference play is going
to hurt! I wasn't expecting to be nervous about our out of
10 offensive points against a MAC team. That's impressive.Lucky for the Utes that they are in the PAC 12 south because they have a
really good chance to win the division because the PAC 12 south is the worst
division in any P5 conference.
The Utes were extremely lucky that were able to avoid the upset.
The OL allowed 6 sacks, they were absolutely horrid. NIU has a good defense but
that was some abysmal offense.
We won the game.We covered the spread.The only trouble
was our Offensive Line was wearing roller skates tonight. The other problems
are manageable, but I’m not so sure about the O-Line play.
A win is a win.... however, this is the game where mistakes were made, that can
be an education for improvement that is really needed. The weber game was too
easy, and as a result, the 2nd week growth that usually takes place, went to
sleep. Thank goodness the Utes were talented enough to get by Nor. Ill. Now
is when the growth needs to take place. Hats off to Northern Ill. They have a
really fine team. Their number 15 on defense put all of our plays to shame.
Utah doesn't deserve to receive votes at this point. They will be lucky to
get above 4th in the south if Whittingham doesn't wake up.Based
on the body of work so far, Utah will get steamrolled against Washington and BYU
will beat Utah.
Ugle game...good win on the road.Chase Hansen played a great game, 2
sacks, 1 INT return for TD.Now the Utes still have lots of work to
do next week to prepare for Washington...
10 offensive points against a MAC team. That's impressive.Lucky for the Utes the PAC 12 south is so bad that they have a really good
chance to win the division.
A win is a win is a win. Even if it is ugly. O line better improve quickly or
Utes will have to lean on the defense for wins.
Too many drop passes. Too long to get passes off. Too many stupid penalties.
Too many players around the punt receiver leading to fumbles. Other than that,
Utah looked OK given a very good defensive NIU team.
this was an ugly game. niu probably made a strategic error in first half by not
kicking a chip shot second field goal. utah defense really stiffened in second
half, but shouldn't have had to come to that. gay missing 2 more field
goals didn't help.utah offensive line looked bad. huntley
had happy feet tonite, but part of that was due to the poor line play. huntley
threw some good balls tonite with a fair number of them dropped.this
one of those games that utah could easily have lost, and maybe should have lost.
things better improve by next week or its going to get very ugly very quick.
What a frustrating game. Did our O-line stay out late? What is going on? Thank
you Chase! NIU has a very good defense, I wish them the best the rest of the