the Drug Enforcement Administration's Schedule One Drugs - Drugs,
substances, and certain chemicals used to make drugs are classified into five
(5) distinct categories or schedules depending upon the drug's acceptable
medical use and the drug's abuse or dependency potential. The abuse rate is
a determinate factor in the scheduling of the drug; for example, Schedule I
drugs have a high potential for abuse and the potential to create severe
psychological and/or physical dependence. Schedule I drugs, substances, or
chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high
potential for abuse. marijuana (cannabis).
Why is MMJ really needed? There are already normal perscription medicine that
has been tested and proven safe. If you want to make a thc version, then submit
it for testing and trials. There are proven side effects that MJ have as all
medicines do but has MJ been tested and proven scientifically? Organics means nothing. There are organic poisons. Is buying raw MJ really the
best idea? If legalized it needs to be dispersed by a State run store. Just like
alcohol it needs to be controlled. Drug stores are tightly controlled.
Now will marijuana be tested and certified? And will it be certified for
specific treatments? Or can i get it for a stubbed toe if i find the right
doctor.So in other words recreational?
I don't understand why anyone in UT that is opposed to this passing would
not also be opposed to a State Liquor Store, or very addictive pain meds out of
a "safe" pharmacy? This is a 100% organic plant grown product. Assuming
you don't get behind the wheel, the worst thing that happens, is you
giggle, eat a lot of food and then fall asleep. The debate really should be
around why we make it illegal in the first place. Stats prove that alcohol is
much worse than THC. I'm sure now there are several of you that are going
to start with the "slippery slope", "gateway" BS, but truth is
that given the option between the two, THC is much more benign for an adult than
alcohol is. IMO.
As Prop 2 is written is not good in terms of medical use, medical supervision.
Ongoing research is critical to any legalization passed.
Promoters of POT here in Colorado played on my compassion for sick people, but
legalization has caused a myriad of unforeseen problems. Legalized POT attracts
people that are here for ONE reason & are often not always an asset to our
state. People who smoke it cause such a stench in the homes of surrounding
neighbors that many who've tried to sell their homes to escape it
can't because potential buyers were so offended by the stench! Property
values have been negatively affected in some areas. While helping friends move
recently the stench of close neighbors smoking POT on their driveway was so
powerful that we could barely breathe! Deaths of innocent people &
victims of drugged drivers may not seem like a big deal until its your own loved
ones who are dead, just so someone can enjoy their high. Many cases of children
ingesting POT edibles here too! (Google it!)If it's needed for
medical issues then make it legal for specific issues & sold as a controlled
pharmaceutical substance.Legalizing opens a Pandora's box that many
in CO didn't anticipate. Consequences are astounding! Is this what
you want for Utah & the future of your children? Once it's legal
there's NO going back.
Re: "The Church really should have stayed out of this."Of
course.We should all take ethical and medical advice from venal head
and smoke shop operators, not from Church leaders and licensed physicians.
Here is the problem with Prop 2. You can already get legal medical marijuana.There are drugs that are based on marijuana that are FDA approved some
of them are the following:Epidiolex for seizuresMarinol and
Syndro for cancer patientsYou can get legal marijuana for legal
purposes. Why are we trying to bypass Federal law?If we can ignore
federal drug laws, that should mean that Utah can reinstate its Amendment 3 and
declare that marriage is between man and woman only. Utah doesn't need to
ask the Federal government to turn federal lands over to state control, we just
have to pass a law to declare it so. Anything that the Feds declare that Utah
doesn't like we can just make a law to say we are not going to abide by
that federal law.To "Spangs " but studies show that in
states that allow MMJ they still have the same levels of opioid use. Some
studies coming out now are showing that MMJ does not work with chronic pain. It
seems that a lot of the arguments for Prop 2 are not well studied yet. Just like
I have said, if it can be scientifically proven to work then legalize it the
Flipphone said: "Remember, when the LDS Church speaks, the thinking
has been done. So it's not shocking that the active membership poll data
has changed."This argument that 'LDS are so obedient
after the LDS Church speaks' that is frequently used is really
humorous.If that were so, there would be more obedience to things
the LDS Church has spoken about...such as 100% visiting, 100% temple worthiness
and attendance, 100% tithing, and lots of other 100%.No, its not
"when the LDS Church speaks, the thinking has been done"...... Its just the counter culture of Utah is offended that LDS leaders dare speak--
and offended that whether they speak or not, active LDS are smart and figure out
nonsense--such as the implications and results of Prop 2, and so they will
defeat it at the polls.
Proposition 2 is a Trojan Horse. It purports to allow medical use for marijuana
structured in a sufficiently vague and loose way so as to allow the
"recreational use camel" to slip its nose and front legs into the tent.
As a physician, I support the use of the compounds in marijuana for medical
purposes as defined by legitimate scientific research and testing. Marijuana is
a drug. Like any drug it has effects, side effects, toxicity, adverse reactions,
interactions with other drugs etc. To be used safely, these all need to be
explored and understood through research. Medical history is full of compounds
that seemed promising until actual research and testing uncovered dangers and
risks. Usage and distribution of marijuana based compounds should be the same as
for all other drugs. Under the current bill it is not. Proponents of Prop 2
would have you believe it's the only way to get to medical use of
marijuana. It is not. Medical uses for marijuana show some promise. The current
proposition is not the safest or best way to access them. Those who could
actually benefit medically from cannabis need a better, more medically sound
Re: ". . . a slip in Utahns' support for medical marijuana, but with
64 percent still in favor . . . ."Though it's hard to
believe the "results" of this poll, it does clearly demonstrate that, as
Utahns discover the mendacity of Weed, Inc.'s propaganda in favor of
purported "medical" weed, we begin to understand that this venal
weed-industry enrichment plan has little to do with medicine, but has a great
deal to do with making greedy, evil people tremendously rich, at the expense of
those least equipped to make wise decisions about weed use.The
medical establishment, the Church, and anyone else who has honestly examined
this scam -- making weed available for "medical" purposes solely through
non-medical channels -- is wise to oppose it.Here's hoping that
as more and more Utahns begin to honestly consider Weed, Inc.'s
disingenuous "arguments," they'll continue to cut through the
propaganda, and that opposition to this evil design of conspiring men will
continue to solidify.
People like freedom to choose medical options.
1. Marijuana is against the law and still will be regardless of Prop 2 out come
federal law has supreme standing. 2. Follow the money. This
initiative was in large part written by big marijuana industry that is springing
up. It’s next step with be full recreational like happened in
@Flipphone - So, I'm guessing you're not a sheep and can
educate the rest of us uninformed, turn-your-brain-off people that listened to
what the Church and the medical community had to say about this subject? Let's start with this. I can't figure out why this initiative
allows only for the use of THC is CBD alone is sufficient to get the
pain-killing effects. Could you please explain why THC is being allowed in this
initiative if CBD is good enough to get the job done? If CBD is all that is
needed, why should I be in favor of the proposition? And furthermore, please
explain if the medical community is against this because they are colluding with
the Church, or if there is actual science backing up their reasoning. Thanks in
The active ingredients in MJ need to be extracted and made into a legitimate
medicine that doesn't have to be smoked. Drawing smoke into lungs is
unhealthy and should be avoided.
Shame on DN. The title for this article is misleading and NOT what the polls
suggest from the article itself.
Remember, when the LDS Church speaks, the thinking has been done. So it's
not shocking that the active membership poll data has changed.
"If you've lost a child to drug addiction, the thought of Proposition 2
passing is chilling."kclady53- if you've lost a child to
drug addiction, the thought of it NOT passing Prop 2 is chilling. Access to MMJ
may DECREASE the use of opioids and opioid addiction. Once you are addicted to
opioids, game over. Addiction to MJ? Probably similar in severity as
caffeine (if that) and primarily psychological dependence.
I fully support Prop 2. Any arguments that it will lead to recreational use are
balderdash. Recreational use is already here. To think otherwise is either naive
or foolish (or both.)
Yes to true medical use of marijuana.No to recreational use and the
dishonest Prop 2 that is a Trojan Horse.Fact is, to do this right we
need congress to act. Violating federal law, and encouraging our citizens to
violate federal law is a very dangerous thing.What other federal
laws do supporters think Utah should violate? Should we encourage
our county clerks not to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples? Should our
State Tax Commission not recognize same sex marriages as valid for State income
tax purposes?Should Utah encourage its citizens to ignore federal
land use laws so we can ride our ATVs anywhere we want? Or perhaps Utah should
just encourage logging and mineral development on federal lands since congress
refuses to address these issues properly?We can always find federal
laws that some of us don't like. Do we just get to ignore them? And if so,
how do we decide which ones we ignore vs which ones should bind us?Ignoring immigration and drug laws make the left happy. Does the right get to
pick two areas to ignore? Guns and Marriage maybe? Land use?Be very
careful what precedent you set. The other side will use it eventually.
Utah voters, don't start down this path. Colorado, Nevada, Oregon, et al,
are covering up all the problems that any legalized marijuna use brings. In
addition to more DUI arrests, accidents, work related issues, illegal
cultivation and sales marijuna is still a gateway drug for most people. Unless
"medical" use is very carefully regulated it will always lead to
"recreational" use. It won't stop the local street corner dealer
either because states try to get rich by charging outrageous taxes, which most
users don't want to pay. Oregon and Washington have both lowered the tax
rates because so many people use their regular street suppliers. There is no
upside to marijuna use.
Elsleuith, The initiative makes no allowance for recreational MJ.
I am not in support of recreational MJ, but I am in support of Prop 2. Anyone
telling you that the initiative will lead to recreational use is employing that
ol' "slippery slope" kind of reasoning that is dubious at best.
You are also wrong in saying that doctors wont be involved. Anyone
getting a card for MMJ must have an Rx from a physician, and the entire process
overseen by the Dept. of Health. This is a far cry from the wild-west scenario
that the Church and UMA are warning about.
Do not confuse medical marijuana with the current ballot initiative regarding
marijuana. The Utah Medical Society and many other responsible organizations are
in favor of medical MJ, but the bill as written is an open door to MJ abuse.
It seems to me the reason this bill was put forward is that the proponents want
recreational MJ not medical. They could have created a bill with doctors
involved and chose not to.
No on 2, medical yes, recreational NO.
I am voting against Prop 2 because of two reasons: 1) I simply don't agree
with the way it is written/the approach of allowing medical marijuana. 2) Why
are we letting a loud, noisy, isolated minority group of the entire electorate
drive such a large swing in policy? People who need medical marijuana represent
The pearl clutching going on about this is hilarious to watch. Add in the
intentional misinformation and the 'but but but-not yet' crowd for
even more laughs. All while they pretend that they love 'freedom'. To anyone suffering, dont wait for the churchislature because they have
proven that they will punt forever. Just ask around, you already know someone.
Anyone can get cannabis within a few hours. In fact much of the state could be
to Colorado or Nevada and back today. Stop being led around by
people who dont have your interests at heart. Vote yes! And
reelect no one, ever.
@water rocket - Magna, UTJust curious, why do you think medical
doctors are the end-all be-all? What has the medical profession produced for us
so far? Nothing but a bunch of addictive opioids etc. The medical board kinda
sorta admitted that they (opioids) can be addictive?! I don't trust them,
its just a big money game for them & big pharma
If you've lost a child to drug addiction, the thought of Proposition 2
passing is chilling. This sounds so familiar. We were living in Louisiana when
everyone thought Oxycotin was the wonder drug. Pain clinics popped up all over
the place. It was like opening a drive-through for death. Be careful what
legislation you pass, Utah, because once it's on the books it hard to get
Title says: New poll suggests a slip in Utahns' support for medical
marijuana, but with 64 percent still in favorI know a lot of people
and not a single one of them are FOR this. Don't think the
percentage for it could possibly be 64%.Just hope the actual
majority percentage who are against it get off their duff in November to vote
against it and save us from the nonsense that other states got suckered into.
Uterebel says it's now or never. How about bring it to the voters with
safeguards in place. The way it is written now is purposefully done to expedite
recreational use as soon as possible. I think very few people are against true
medical marijuana. But if you think recreational is a good thing, just look at
Colorado and the problems they are having. I spent the last two weeks there
for work and homelessness is way up and you can barely walk around certain areas
without getting sick from all the pot smoke. The homeless and hipsters in
Manitou Springs have turned a once amazing family vacation spot into San
Francisco of the 60's.
I am all for medical marijuana, but Prop 2 is more about legalizing (or more
accurately decriminalizing by reducing/eliminating penalties) marijuana. If
this passes, there is sure to be "buyer's remorse."The
Utah Medical Association is all for using whatever substance that has been
proven safe in treatments. They support research of cannabis for medical
purposes; cannabis extracts are already in some prescription drugs.This proposition is NOT about marijuana for medicinal purposes; it is all
about making it legal for recreational use. Vote NO on Prop 2.
As people become more well educated about the full ramifications of his issue,
they become less likely to support it.
Medical marijuana becoming legal is simply smoke and mirrors.
So glad some “LDS members” know what is best. I feel the Prophet
knows better 2.
...I’m trying to understand why we don’t have a proposition for
Medical Marijuana that will easily pass muster with our Utah citizenry. If the
merits of Medical Marihuana are as outstanding as testified to by those who
have/are benefitting from its use (and many documented cases seem to show
positive results)... why was an initiative not written that would satisfy more
voters?...to answer my own question...oh, writing a loosey goosey
proposition would ease in the recreational users...sheesh people, forget your
self centered gratification needs and help those who really need the medicinal
product. Mixed messages in legislation are a can of worms...as gullible as many
in Utah are...this one won’t pass the sniff test!...
Good, and support needs to keep dropping. Yes we do need to legalize
responsible medical use, under a Doctor's care and direction (aka real
medical use). Those that haven't read the proposition need to. It does
not provide for real medical use. A doctor's role is to approve a cannabis
card, once that is done all medical supervision is blocked. The treatment
regime, dosage, method of administration and duration of treatment are all at
the direction of an uneducated clerk with zero medical background at the
dispensaries. This is not medicine, it's recreational use with
nominal approval by a doctor.Give the Legislature more chances.
Good legislation rarely happens on the first try. This initiative is not good
legislation. Vote NO on Prop 2, let the legislature do it correctly. Prop 2
even denies the state any ability to tax cannabis. How often do proponents say
legalize it and tax it for the schools, well this prohibits said taxation.Again let the Legislature do it's job, even if it takes a few
tries. And the Church is 100% correct to speak out on this bad legislation. It
doesn't oppose responsible medical use, it does oppose recreational use.
I'm concerned that the polls cited have not accurately described what
medical marijuana is. Medical marijuana according to Prop 2 is an entirely
different thing then what is being sold to voters. Most concerning to me is the
restrictions place on city councils that cannot zone out pot shops or marijuana
dispensaries. Medical marijuana is really closer to recreational then is being
advertised. Safeguards are very minimal and penalties for possession nearly
eliminated. Records are required to be wiped clean after 60 days, and this is an
all cash business since marijuana is not legal in the US.
The Church really should have stayed out of this. Now the damage is
done... to the image of the Church!Yes on 2!
Whether or not a substance is deemed appropriate for medicinal use should not be
based solely on sporadic successes or even voted upon by people who have no
expertise in the field of medicinal drugs. There is a process involved, which is
important to know all the effects; to determine proper dosage; to ensure patient
safety. There appears to be some evidence concerning the efficacy of cannabis or
elements of it, but the full process of 'vetting' is important.
What is disheartening is that some states have approved
Marijuana for recreational use. With all the problems caused by alcohol, tobacco
and multitudinous street drugs, why add to the already humongous societal
problems of these substances ?
If it is for "legitimate" medical use, legislated, regulated, with
ongoing research why is this a problem? People need to separate out the
potheads, recreational users from legitimate medical use. For some reason, in
Utah, it is more difficult for people to do this. The addicts and recreational
users have ruined it for the medical use people.
I haven't read Prop 2, but I have never been in favor of any recreational
use of marijuana. However, I do support the use for medical reasons, under a
doctor's care, with strict penalties for those who abuse the process. Any
medicinal product that relieves pain and suffering, or that helps correct or
alleviate physical ailments should be available, through a qualified medical
doctor for these purposes. Any doctor who abuses his/her position for profit,
and not for the true well being of their patients should be punished. For
those who argue that recreational marijuana should be allowed, just look at
Colorado, where crime went up, not down, after marijuana was made legal for
recreational use. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it is very difficult to
get it back in again.
It's now or never Utah voters. The legislature hasn't been listening.
Vote "yes" on Prop 2.
Annoy the legislature Utah, Vote Yes on 2!