we are not perfect, we never were perfect and we never will be perfect.... but
as imperfect as we are by the grace of God we can be saved
To "The Atheist" so you are denying science?I gave you
verifiable articles showing that prayer works. Prayer does save lives and makes
people better, and your response is to deny science.How can we trust
that your belief in atheism is true if you deny science that you claim lead you
"Faith communities nurture social connections and a sense of worthiness,
which are important resources for people dealing with mental illness."It's extremely important that "worthiness" churches, with
an incessant and overwhelming focus on "worthiness," do not foster and
encourage and produce ideas or feelings of being "unworthy."This is almost impossible when a huge and dominant idea within a church or
religion is constantly on being "worthy."Including
obligatory "worthiness" interviews, particularly of young people.
@The Atheist: "Thoughts and prayers won't save lives!"Actually, even if there were no supernatural being who heard amd answered
prayers--I know there is, I have felt His presence and seen his guiding hand too
many times to deny Him--thoughts and prayers are a sign of love, and to know one
is loved is often exactly what is needed to prevent suicide.Obviously, that love needs to be shown in ways in addition to just thoughts
and prayers. But even among rational, secure, non-believers, expressions of
"sending good thoughts" is a common way of expressing love and concern
when nothing else can be done.It is a shame to see a few who are so
insecure in their own world views as to constantly need to attack others'
beliefs. Whether from anti-theists or self-proclaimed "Christians"
matters not. It is an unwillingness to quietly respect others' peaceful
beliefs.There are situations where disagreements matter and must be
expressed. Civility should rule those situations. But in many cases, true
civility, respect, and tolerance really require not expressing disagreement when
its only purpose is to be disagreeable, to attack, or to mock.
"So apparently God does help those who go to him. It is a scientifically
proven fact."No, it is not. Godless meditation actually gets
similar or better results.As usual, no god is needed. Ever.
I read this article aloud. I found it moving, and it touched my heart. My connection is a grandfather who suffered (shell shock) in WWI, effecting
his responses and behavior for a lifetime, and a child who went into the
military who had minor issues comparatively when released from service. I did 6
years of volunteer work with the remainder of the unit while deployments
occurred and interactions when everyone was home, plus attending (parent)
meetings several times. I learned about SOFAR, Strategic Outreach for All
Reservists, who were expanding in multiple states, volunteer counselors who
never charge for helping. I mentioned it to a group of soldiers I didn't
know, casually, and one guy gave me the thumbs up as he walked away.Suicide and mental health issues - we need to talk about it. I hope they
talk about this in my church Sunday.
While this article focuses on several denominations' approach to suicide
prevention; and only mentions The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
passing, I would like to take a moment to comment more specifically on the
culture of above mentioned church; and, from the perspective of my own suicidal
struggles, what I feel would help greatly in suicide prevention among Latter-day
Saints specifically.The doctrines of the church clearly do not
expect perfection in this life-time; and indicate that we all need our Savior
Jesus Christ's atonement; because we all sin. Yet, there is a pervasive
culture of perfectionism, and saving of ourselves by our works. The
interpretations of such scriptures as "faith without works is dead" and
"saved by grace after all we can do" and many more push this narrative
that persons who are "sinning" are not "worthy" and therefore
will not be saved.What would greatly help would be to focus less on
judging other's sins or even our own sins; as we all do sin, and instead
relying on the saving Grace of Jesus Christ. A paradigm shift from judging
"worthiness" of individuals based on answers to interview question;
instead to judging our intentions.
To "Thomas Jefferson" and "The Atheist" but according to
psychologists, prayers will save lives.In article titled "New
Study Examines the Effects of Prayer on Mental Health" they found that
prayer improved mental health.See also "The Effect of Prayer on
Depression and Anxiety: Maintenance of Positive Influence One Year After Prayer
Intervention"So apparently God does help those who go to him. It
is a scientifically proven fact.
Dear Mr. Atheist and Mr. Jefferson,It is a fact that people are
dying every day by suicide. Your comments "Thoughts and prayers won't
save lives!" and “talking to yourself” are opinions; they do
nothing to address the problem.As Ronald Regan said “It is
easy to criticize, tough to create”.Sincerely, I_believeThere is a fantastic video “created” by local
artist Madilyn Paige titled "Perfect". This is song/video from her
album "Anymore". DN recently published an article “Self-esteem,
not perfection, the goal for former ‘Voice’ contestant Madilyn
Paige” by Caresa Randall 9/1/18.The article refers to her new
album “Anymore”. Each song on the album deals with a struggle, and
a lesson of overcoming. The above referenced article provides background for
each song on the “Anymore” album. One song particularly addressing
this article is “Perfect”. There is a video link, taking you to her
“YouTube” video.Some quotes from the
“Perfect” song: “she needs to be more than she sees”,
“let go of perfect, you are already worth it”, “worth is not a
prize you can win or lose”. I’ve watched the video many times,
wishing all youth, 0-100 could see and feel the message.
Prayer is talking to yourself. Leave the myths in your past. Start
to deal with reality.
Thoughts and prayers won't save lives!