BYU celebrates big victory at Arizona, but it's time to get back to work as it prepares to host Cal

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  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Sept. 5, 2018 2:59 p.m.

    I am excited about the BYU win, but Ute and Cougar fans need to play nice for a few more weeks. Ute fans will look dumb if Arizona turns out to be pretty good and they lose to KT and the Wildcats. Cougar fans better not brag about beating Arizona, Arizona might be 3-9 this year. Let's wait until after week 3 when we have more data points on the teams before we start the trash talk. :) Go Cougs!

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    Sept. 5, 2018 1:03 p.m.

    Sooner Ute

    “Now begins the challenge for BYU. They had 3 months to prepare for Arizona and earned the upset.”

    How is it that BYU had 3 months to prepare for an Arizona team lead by a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator?

    It could easily be argued that BYU didn’t have any time to prepare for Arizona except for base defense.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2018 2:53 p.m.

    Now begins the challenge for BYU. They had 3 months to prepare for Arizona and earned the upset. They have 7 days to prepare for Cal, then 7 days to prepare for Wisconsin. How well can the young staff make weekly adjustments?

  • CG Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2018 11:59 a.m.

    83Ute

    One penalty, or two, doesn’t change the fact that Utah fans rushed the field THREE times after beating a rival that they supposedly no longer care about.

    You’ve legitimately earned your designation as the 2nd most rival obsessed fan base in the country.

  • 83Ute Ogden/Weber, UT
    Sept. 4, 2018 8:49 a.m.

    @Michigan (9:46 pm):

    "Why do the Ute "fans" still rush the field when you beat BYU? One year they even rushed the field 3 times getting 2 penalties in the process!"

    This statement is false. In 2012, one penalty was called on the fans when a game ending field goal attempt was blocked and the fans came onto the field prior to the play being called dead. That was the only penalty called in the last sequence of events in that game.

    The first "ending" to the game ended up not being the end as 1 second was put back on the clock (no penalty). The second "ending", the blocked FG attempt, resulting in a penalty and one untimed down. The third "ending" was the real end when the FG attempt hit the upright.

    One penalty, not two.

  • TrueBlue Provo, UT
    Sept. 4, 2018 8:29 a.m.

    utemythology

    You're the national wimp, unwilling to travel anywhere east of the Rocky Mountains - Michigan (3-9) and No Illinois are the only two exceptions to that in the last decade.

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    Sept. 3, 2018 9:46 p.m.

    UteinIdaho
    Why do the Ute "fans" still rush the field when you beat BYU? One year they even rushed the field 3 times getting 2 penalties in the process! Can't wait to see how Utah fares against KT and the Wildcats! I will be interested to see how Utah and it's fans react to upsetting a team from another P5 conference but I will have to wait until bowl season if the Utes can qualify for a bowl game this year!

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:06 p.m.

    utemythology

    How much national exposure does Utah get for losing to 4-8 Oregon or 3-9 WSU and finishing 9th in the PAC 12, 5th in their division?

    USC was unranked and coming off a blowout loss to Alabama when Utah barely beat the Trojans.

    The only who were “impressed” were Utah fans.

    USC would have destroyed U if you’d played the Trojans in late November, instead of early September.

    No hype, that’s an absolute certainty.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 6:26 p.m.

    Doesn’t Utah have a losing PAC 12 record versus Arizona; the Wildcats are 9-2 in the last 11 opening games - the 2 losses...

    to BYU.

    🏈🤙

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 3, 2018 5:33 p.m.

    @BlueMoonOden - Hinckley, IL

    Unlike Utah BYU gets national exposure by playing at places like LSU, Mississippi State, Texas, Michigan State.(previous years) Wisconsin this year and Tennessee. (next year) Utah schedules only in the West and complains about going to Northern Illinois.

    -----

    You're the national cupcake, willing to travel anywhere.

    Unlike BYU, Utah gets national exposure by beating #3 USC, #10 UCLA, #10 Stanford, #11 Michigan....

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 3, 2018 4:41 p.m.

    The only way you earn sub-.500 pac 12 bottom feeder record is to lose more conference games than you win. In my opionion, BYU had a great game plan and the execution was better than at any time last year. Let’s wait and see how Arizona does at Utah. If Tate is healthy, I bet he gets more than 14 yards against u. The U’s conference record last year was sub .500. I’m glad everyone can recognize what a bottom feeder is.

  • BlueMoonOden Hinckley, IL
    Sept. 3, 2018 3:58 p.m.

    To AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZ
    It’s now officially been 3,201 days since byu-p last beat us.....Ouch!
    8 straight & counting is soon upon us!

    What I say to that is a big So What? Not everyone cares about the rivalry which really doesn't mean much anymore. Unlike Utah BYU gets national exposure by playing at places like LSU, Mississippi State, Texas, Michigan State.(previous years) Wisconsin this year and Tennessee. (next year) Utah schedules only in the West and complains about going to Northern Illinois.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 3:39 p.m.

    "Just to be fair, make sure you jump on Ute articles and read comments from Y fans."

    Do 2 wrongs make a right?

    I comment on Utah boards, always respectfully although I don't wear rose colored glasses.

    But if it's so annoying, people need to stop doing it - I think my most recent Utah comment was mentioning how the Washington was clearly a good opponent for Auburn.

  • MoonlightGR Herriman, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 2:36 p.m.

    As a BYU/Utah fan...hence the name....

    Ute fans sure are embarrassing sometimes.

    Just to be fair, make sure you jump on Ute articles and read comments from Y fans.

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 2:28 p.m.

    Throwback to old style BYU football. No spectacular receivers or running backs or defensive backs. No obvious 1st round picks anywhere.

    But receivers ran their routes and got open. They caught all of the catchable passes. Steady performance on the ground behind a massive OL by half a dozen backs supporting the main ball carrier.

    Several backs catching the ball out of the backfield including screen passes. Even the fullback. Tight ends involved. Receivers blocking.

    The only thing missing was the draw play. Clean up some bad throws and bone head penalties, and we beat CAL Saturday night.

    See you there.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 3, 2018 1:47 p.m.

    “C’mon man! Show a little class. Admit that you were wrong and that BYU played a good game and AU did not. Why can’t you just once be reasonably honest in your evaluation.”

    AU = Auburn University.....In this case, you meant U of A.

    KT was a Heisman candidate in RRod’s run-first system, not in the pass-first/pocket-passer system Sumlin employs.

    Sumlin/Mazzone effectively neutralized U of A’s only hope for Ws this year by shackling KT/putting cement blocks on his feet.....He wasn’t recruited to play in this sort of system, period.

    Their game-plan was utterly mind-boggling.

    Yet, byu-p could only beat them by merely 5 points.

    What this does tell me is byu-p might have a chance @ beating UMASS—Lol

    If history is any indicator, U of A will finish as a sub-.500 PAC-12 bottom-feeder, since that’s the only sort of PAC-12 opponent byu-p’s ever able to beat.

    Go Utes!

  • Jello is Good ,
    Sept. 3, 2018 1:15 p.m.

    @AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 3, 2018 12:33 p.m.
    “It’s now officially been 3,201 days since byu-p last beat us.....Ouch! 8 straight & counting is soon upon us!”

    C’mon man! Show a little class. Admit that you were wrong and that BYU played a good game and AU did not. Why can’t you just once be reasonably honest in your evaluation.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Sept. 3, 2018 1:13 p.m.

    I have never been a Mangum fan. His freshman year was pedestrian and his junior year was a nightmare. That being said, Saturday by far was his best game. It isn’t always about the stats. There was no hero ball or panic. Grimes dialed up a great game plan and Mangum executed it. I don’t even mind the dirt balls. I’d rather have them only where the receiver can get it rather than a pick. Grimes also put in many roll outs which plays in to some of Mangum’s best throws in the past. It also gave him more time to throw but in a structured way instead of panic.

    This is just one game versus two years of mediocre to poor play so I am cautiously optimistic that Mangum just needed the right coach and the right system.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Sept. 3, 2018 12:33 p.m.

    It’s now officially been 3,201 days since byu-p last beat us.....Ouch!

    8 straight & counting is soon upon us!

    Go Utes!

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 11:34 a.m.

    I’m extremely impressed with Mangum and Canada. Even though Arizona had the 118th defense last year, it’s still a good road win. WAY overhyped Tate! Hopefully the media will give that a rest now. If Mangum and Canada stay healthy all season, the cougs will have a good year, and will most definitely go bowling. Super happy football season is rolling. Good luck cougs!

  • mabramso Orem, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 11:05 a.m.

    @CO Ute:

    I had to do a double take on that comment too. Go back and carefully reread the comment. The author used two hyphens to throw in a side comment, so that the phrase after the second hyphen actually refers to the game just played, not anything that occurred last year. The author's writing is technically (grammatically) correct, but it was just a poor piece of writing -- too easy to be misunderstood.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 3, 2018 10:37 a.m.

    Good win Cougs,Congrats.

    I tip my hat to them.

    I hope I didn’t embarrass my self with this comment; Good Grief

  • softbear Olympia, WA
    Sept. 3, 2018 10:05 a.m.

    As a former lineman, I couldn’t be prouder of the line performance. We played a good game and except for 4th quarter “prevent defense” that always allows a team to pick up running yardage, our defense was awesome. Hopefully the secondary will improve. One of the biggest factors “No Turn Overs”. Keep it up.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 10:04 a.m.

    Lets hope the team doesn't get too full of themselves and start reading articles this week that say they will be 11-2.

    Take the games one at a time and realize that it doesn't take too many mistakes or plays off to lose a game.

  • BYUTEFAN Riverton, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 10:02 a.m.

    As a BYU/Utah fan...hence the name....

    Ute fans sure are embarrassing sometimes.

  • BYUTEFAN Riverton, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    I think evaluating Mangum is tough her. Someone above implied giving him some slack for it being his first game...but in perspective I have issue with that.
    Mangum had a terrible year last and has openly admitted that much of it was his fault....gaining unhealthy weight, mentally not committed...etc etc. Then on the flip side he is often referenced by many as a co-mvp to Winston in the Elite training camp. He came on the scene in 2015 performing good and gave high hopes.

    So what are we supposed to expect as fans? Look at Alabama’s QB (I won’t attempt his name ) He played awesome for his first game and he’s not a senior with co- mvp credentials. Is there a reason I should expect less from Tanner than I do from any other “elite” QB? Tanner had a promising first year, then played behind a QB now playing behind Drew Brees, then in a lot of ways threw away his junior year...so yes I expect a lot from Tanner. One of them being to not throw balls into the dirt 3 times.
    However he did play good and had some great reads and some money throws. I disagree on the Collie pass... it was a great throw and Collie made a great play in a pass interference play. The defender hit early

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 9:35 a.m.

    "The big 3rd quarter all wraps up into one play- the one where Collie made a circus catch out of a badly thrown Mangum pass."

    I guess we see it differently.

    The OL, which was doing a great job, allowed 2 guys through (both TEs blew their blocking assignments), Tanner had been touched twice and was running up in the pocket when he delivered a strike under pressure.

    The ball was thrown perfectly, Collie had pressure from above and behind him and made the catch of the game on that. Had it not been a perfect strike it would have been an interception or incomplete.

    the next pass was to Bushman who caught it in stride, it basically landed in his shirt pocket.

    Tanner had some passes that weren't great - but the one you pointed out was an incredible play by Tanner.

  • BlueMoonOden Hinckley, IL
    Sept. 3, 2018 9:11 a.m.

    I am fairly confident BYU will beat Cal at home. The Bears have beaten some good teams in Berkeley but are generally ineffective on the road. The big test will be at Camp Randall (stadium) vs Wisconsin. Wisconsin winning is a given but how BYU plays against possibly the best team in the Big Ten will say a lot. In that case a moral victory is very acceptable and we can see how much BYU has really improved.

  • CO Ute Chandler, AZ
    Sept. 3, 2018 9:04 a.m.

    Um, Jeff - please advise which PAC 12 team BYU beat last year in late October. San Jose St, UNLV, and Hawaii don’t count.

    Thanks in large part to a dominating, 21-point third-quarter barrage, the Cougars (1-0) won their season-opener — last year it wasn’t until late October that BYU finally earned its first win over an FBS opponent — against a Pac-12 foe on the road.

  • Originalflyinhawaiian Yakima, WA
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:55 a.m.

    The Ute fans can’t quite leave it alone, can ya?

  • payara OREM, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:53 a.m.

    They told us that Grimes was a linemen genius. the Grimes hire was what BYU needed. You win and lose by your linemen. Tanner had plenty of time, 0 sacks, Canada had big holes to run through.

    The key to beating Zona was to take away the run and make them pass it. Rushing 3 men, blitzing sparingly while our capable linebackers patrolled the gaps strangled the wildcat's running game.

    Byu is going tobe solid against any run team....but will struggle against a good passing QB.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:46 a.m.

    If you recorded the game and intend on watching it again, notice how the AU defensive and offensive linemen seemed to be on roller skates with every snap. The BYU offensive and defensive lines were overpowering, especially Khyiris Tonga. Even the ESPN commentators mentioned how often he pushed his blockers back into the AU QB! Want to know why their vaunted QB had a rough game running? He was running for his life, away from Khyiris Tonga and BYU's defense! Sometimes AU had to keep a back in to double team trying to block him! Mangum did fine but it was a team victory with the O and D lines being the difference.

  • mdp Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:34 a.m.

    The big 3rd quarter all wraps up into one play- the one where Collie made a circus catch out of a badly thrown Mangum pass... Mangum's accuracy sucked on pretty much everything beyond 10 yards downfield... hope it improves

  • Austin Coug Pflugerville, TX
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    @UteinIdaho

    BYU has definitely been there before. However, I think any team that experiences their worst season in 60 years is allowed to celebrate big after a win the first game of the next season. BYU was a 10 point dog and few gave them a chance. As a BYU fan, I have no problem with the celebration after the disaster which was last year.

  • Mick , 00
    Sept. 3, 2018 8:01 a.m.

    Uteinidaho-

    Ute fans continually tell us what a big deal the P5 is and that us lowly mid majors should bow and respect.

    Well BYU just beat a P5 school. So it’s a big deal according to your highly set standards.

    But I agree with you. A win against the PAC 12 is like any other win. That conference is the worst of the P5 conferences.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 6:38 a.m.

    "As good as the team played, Mangum did not play well except for the third quarter."

    Hmmm. Perfection in game 1? Or ever? He was a lot more perfect than the Heisman Candidate was. You guys are a hard lot to please.

    Here's what I saw: A powerhouse offensive line that protected the QB and opened big holes. Receivers blocking downfield. A running back constantly making big plays through those big holes. Touchdowns instead of pileups at the enemy goal line. Speed.

    Did any body notice the UA players on the ground getting stretched while the BYU players were dancing around and getting ready for the next play? Yes, Tanner missed a few throws. But he complete more. And more importantly, his execution of the options was stellar. He has a good understanding of the offense. He'll be fine.

    Finally: how many injuries did BYU have? I don't remember any.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 5:29 a.m.

    There was no question that the offensive line won this game for BYU. They completely controlled the line of scrimmage for the entire game and protected the QB all night long. They were the difference from last year and I can't remember when the offensive line was ever so dominant for BYU. Obviously, the experience in the SEC helped Jeff Grimes understand how key the line play has to be. Our running backs have never had such big holes to run through. We will have to see if this can be maintained but this is a very positive sign for BYU.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2018 4:56 a.m.

    Vancouver
    I suggest you walk on.
    The pressure Tanner was under was incredible.
    He was superb and will only get better. In case you didn’t know, they won the game. He is respected as a player but even more so as a person.
    I really hope you make the team and can take over his position. That will take a lot of pressure off Tanner.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Sept. 3, 2018 1:31 a.m.

    Mangum hung 21 points on a P5 team on the road in a single quarter and we're criticizing him?

    That was probably the best quarter overall for BYU football in Mangum's career.

  • BobbyPaluga Austin, TX
    Sept. 3, 2018 12:37 a.m.

    North Carolina was 3-9 in 2017 playing on the road. A win over Cal would be nice, BYU would need to play another turnover free game, that’s where the Bears beat the Tarheels by not taking care of the ball, it wasn’t an overwhelming win, but a win nevertheless.
    Mangum needs to have some deep targets to spread out the coverage.
    BYU 34 Cal 16

  • UteinIdaho Sandpoint, ID
    Sept. 2, 2018 11:37 p.m.

    As I said in another comment section, good win. I mean it. No one expected that, and it was a good win.

    But, despite last years 4-9 season, maybe act like you've been there before? The exuberant celebrations made it seem like you may have just beaten Alabama...not a team coming off a 6-7 season, with an entirely new coaching staff.

    I guess that's just the BYU way though.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Sept. 2, 2018 9:34 p.m.

    Some of my buddies were already calling for Wilson at halftime. Even though I was not super impressed by Tanner either, I told them to give him sometime to relax and get into rhythm. He was 20 for 28 so we are being a little harsh on him. I expect him to be even better next week now that he has got the rust and first game jitters out of the way.

  • Deanvrtc Vancouver, WA
    Sept. 2, 2018 8:57 p.m.

    As good as the team played, Mangum did not play well except for the third quarter..... when he was stellar. This game frankly should have been over sooner had Mangum completed a few passes to wide open receivers. he also should have been intercepted at least once when the ball was thrown right to the defensive corner for Arizona. He dropped the ball. In the fourth quarter, nobody had confidence in Mangum throwing a ball past 10 yards. Thats not good... for a senior QB. If the defense stacks the box...in effect daring the QB to throw, you have to have a QB that can make them pay beyond 10 yards. Im still not convinced Mangum will not get pulled this season. Im elated for the win, but still not convinced Mangum can do what BYU needs. Here is hoping for more of his third quarter performance in games to come.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 2, 2018 5:56 p.m.

    Mangum came out with much more confidence in the 3rd quarter. I also think the hurry-up suited him well. I hope he can carry that confidence into next game, and thusly improve his accuracy.
    The 0 turnovers was also key, however I had hoped the defense would create a few.