Deepest condolences to the family of Sen. McCain and the people of the state of
Arizona. He served our country for 60 years. Yes, he made mistakes, funny how
human that is. To those who support age and term limits. I would
like to add the office of the President of the US and Supreme Court justices to
that list. No one over 70 can run for President and all Justices retire
after 20 years. Note to AT - the "wet start" rumor was put
to rest many years ago. Check out Snopes. RIP Senator.
100 years from now, children whose grandparents have not yet been born will hear
in awe of the brave and gallant naval aviator who was shot down, imprisoned, and
tortured for six years. But while beatings could break his body, they could not
break his spirit, diminish his resolve, or even extinguish his sense of humor.
And how he entered politics and won the friendship and even love of his
colleagues, including those who disagreed with him on matters of policy. And
when this man who cheated death so many times...on flight decks in oceans, in
prison cells in jungles...finally succumbed to the disease that will claim many
of us mere mortals, he was surrounded by the members of his family, and embraced
by the love of his nation. Godspeed, John McCain. We are better because
you walked among us.
casual observer - Salt Lake City, UT, you need to research what many of his
fellow prisoners thought and still think of McCain. McCain, to his credit, did
express regret in his memoirs over his collaboration w/the NVA while in
captivity. He was deathly afraid that his Admiral father would find out about
it.Some of this is dealt with in the article I referenced in my last
comment. It's a fairly long article, but easily found by an internet
‘Flashback - Kearns, UT’, ‘AT - Elk River, MN’ and a few
others are exactly right. What is being ignored is the role McCain played in
squelching/ignoring evidence that there were POW’s/MIA’s left behind
in Vietnam.I’m a Vietnam veteran. For me this is a horrible
blemish on the man’s record. I can’t think of anything worse for
any POW. Why McCain took the actions in this matter as he did, is unfathomable
to me.In 1993, a researcher from Harvard, Stephen Morris, found a
transcript in Russian archives of General Quang telling the Hanoi politburo that
out of 1,205 US prisoners being held, many would be held back to use as
bargaining chips to ensure reparations from the US.Sgt. Maj. Eric
Haney, who had participated in 2 aborted attempts to recover held-back
POW’s in 1981-82, spoke to highly placed former member of the NVA who
asked him: “Why did the Americans never attempt to recover their
remaining POW’s after conclusion of the war?”McCain’s role in squelching the last attempts to do this were
unconscionable. Ref: McCain and the POW cover-up, by Sydney H. Schanberg,
Pulitzer Prize winner. It appeared in the Nation, 2008, and expanded later in
the Nation Institute.
While McCain gave honorable service to our country in his youth, it is hard to
imagine how petty and bitter he had become to actually exclude the President of
the USA from his funeral!To be kind, let's assume it was just the
effects of brain cancer and take the high road in honoring his service.
BigLib - Salt Lake City, UTAug. 26, 2018 12:19 p.m.Not everyone is
saddened by the departure of John McCain from the U.S. Senate. Many see it as an
opportunity for the Republican Governor of Arizona to appoint a replacement to
the Senate who will support, rather than inhibit, President Trump's agenda
for the Nation.==========But Big, there are a huge number of
Americans who would much prefer the governor to appoint a replacement who will
do all they can possibly do to prevent any further DESTRUCTION of our nation by
Condolences to his family. Suggestions for current and future
government representatives of the people:1) Term limits, please!2) Resign your seat if you become physically or mentally unable to fulfill
your position.3) Mandatory retirement from office at 70 years old. I
don't care how fit, sharp or important we may think we are, we
all know there's a big difference between our performance
mentally and physically at 70 than when we were in our 40's or 50's
and 60's. Retire for Pete's sake. Enjoy the rest of your
life serving your family and friends in some other capacity.
Let the cannonization of St John the Divine begin.John McCain never
did anything that wasn't calculated to benefit or further the career of
John McCain.I can't think of one significant piece of
legislation that he sponsored or passed. Other than McCain Feingold that got
dumped by the courts.when I think of McCain, I think of his
involvement in the Keating 5 and the wrist slap he and John Glenn got.His "Gang of 14" antics didn't endear him to me either.My son had the privilege of being a Senate Page. He worked every day with
John McCain and had nothing good to say about him. Both on a personal level and
what he did or didn't do in the Senate.Kudos to McCain for his
military service and his POW experience. Kudos for his Service in the House and
Senate. But he's not the clean one owner "Paragon of Virtue" that
everyone says that he is.McCain was a relentless self promoter.
Always had to be in front. In the last roughly 10 sessions of Congress around
17 bills sponsored or co sponsored by McCain became law, out of a little over
1200 he sponsored. To contrast, Orrin Hatch has had over 700 bills signed into
law in that time that he either sponsored or cosponsored.
I respect the man as a soldier and former POW.But his situation begs
the need to address term limitations! Two terms for US SenatorsSix terms for House of RepresentativesAge limits. The FAA mandatorily
retires pilots at 65. Make 70 the cutoff age. No new terms after 70. Serve
out your term and then you are retired.
He was offered release from POW camp, but refused until his comrades were freed.
His courage, integrity and dedication to country set a standard that few have
met. His independent, moderate political views made him the friend of many and
the enemy of few. I am pleased that Mr. Trump would feel out of place at the
Over 130 people died because of a prank he pulled on an aircraft carrier (he
"wet-started" his jet and started a fire). He crashed multiple aircraft
goofing around. His wife was badly injured in a car crash with life-altering
injuries - he divorced her. There wasn't a war he didn't support. He
actively collaborated with enemies of the US. He gave up information while being
interrogated that led to the death of other people (not sure how I'd do
under those conditions, but it still should be noted...). But, because he was a
politician, he's getting respect?
Although I disagreed with McCain about a lot of things, he did have a moment of
brilliance when asked by the media about the possibility of becoming vice
president for Barack Obama, he replied: "I spent several years
in a North Vietnamese prison camp in the dark, fed with scraps. Do you think I
want to do that all over again as vice president of the United States?"
It’s too bad he worked till he was 81. He should have retired and enjoyed
I don't much agree with the man both politically and in his own life, but I
hope he was able to enjoy his final moments peacefully, painlessly and with his
loved ones. Rest in peace McCain.
Not everyone is saddened by the departure of John McCain from the U.S. Senate.
Many see it as an opportunity for the Republican Governor of Arizona to appoint
a replacement to the Senate who will support, rather than inhibit, President
Trump's agenda for the Nation.
We have lost an authentic hero. Trump's thoughtless comment, saying he only
likes soldiers that weren't captured, is typical of the man that America
voted in to be our President. Trump wasn't a soldier because he suffered
with bone spurs. McCain was a man of great integrity and a sincere patriot.
Thank you for your service, Senator McCain. Rest in peace, you deserve it.
It's obvious by the accolades showered on McCain, that many people,
including pop culture media, do not have deep or thorough knowledge of his
@Desert Bill. Hatch is being polite. That’s what you do at a time
like this. Many had political quibbles with McCain. That is what
makes America great. But, (though Trump tried) I can’t ever
disparage his military service. He offered his life, if needed, to preserve the
US Constitution. That is the epitome of selflessness.
We've lost one of the few honest and sensible voices in Congress.
I feel for his family, it is very hard to lose a loved one. I wish them well
I will be very careful with what I say next. I am not a fan of Mr McCain at all
I am from Arizona and was there while he was having problems in Vietnam. I had
family in the armed forces at higher levels and also in State Govt. At the very
beginning his problems in the Navy were known and the troubles he was in. From
what came out at first and what you see in his history today are two very
different stories. I just don't have much respect for him. I am very
sorry that he had to suffer from this horrible disease and that his family lost
him. I hope they find peace and comfort soon. I might not like him but I do
not wish anything but love and comfort for those that do not feel as I do.
My husband and I moved to Arizona in the mid-1990's. It was nice to be in
a "more conservative" state, than California. I voted for Sen. John
McCain and he always kept me guessing as to what he would be doing next to upset
my conservative mind. I vowed I would never vote for him again, as the years
passed but then I would because he was the best man available for the job. I
look back and admire this tough American hero, who endured so much from his
captors in North Vietnam. He was released and went into politics and tried to
keep the senate bipartisan as to what the next step should be for our nation,
not just for his political career. I will miss him.
It is interesting that Hatch calls him a hero and the pinnacle of virtue all the
while sycophantically supporting trump who denigrated Senator McCain (and anyone
else who hurts his feelings).We lost a great man, appearing even
greater by comparison to those left behind.
McCain did nothing to impress me. Just another lifetime politician.
R.I.P. Senator Sir.
John McCain is a true American patriot. And , in total opposition to Orrin
Hatch's statement of Trump being "the best President I've ever
served under". Mr. McCain was the epitome of American integrity.
The word "Hero" has been terribly overused in the United States over the
past fifty years or longer.That said, John S. McCain the Navy
fighter pilot, or Senator John S. McCain, has certainly proved himself a role
model to all of humanity who have heard of the man and knows of his
reputation.Going back to his days as a Navy pilot, and then a little
later to when he was a prisoner of war at the Hanoi "Hilton" in North
Vietnam, John S. McCain was always a hero to me. He was a hero to me even when
I disagreed with him while he was serving in the House or Senate.What John S. McCain has done for the men and women of the Armed Forces of the
United States of America has seldom been equalled.Thank you for your
service to all of humanity.We who have served in the Navy all salute
you, Captain John S. McCain, III.Anchors Aweigh and Semper
Fidelis,Andrew "Andy" McKane
Not sure there will be such a great Senator, American hero and Patriot of equal
stature to Senator McCain to come along in this country for a long time - if
ever! Thanks Senator McCain for all your valiant service to this country.