All mammals have cannabinoid systems, humans included. THC has a natural analog
called anandimide which all of us produce. Some of us need boosted levels of
THC, CBD, other cannabinoids and terpenes that cannabis based medicines
provide.Whole-plant based medicines seem to terrify many of our Western
allopathic doctors even here in Utah, home to many essential oil manufacturers.
Yes, one form of cannabis medicine is its essential oil.I for one need a
small amount of cannabis everyday or I have horrible nerve pain, something that
is very hard to control with western pharmaceuticals. I can't wait for a
"perfect" law. Many are suffering including many of our veterans!.Thanks for listening, vote yes on Prop 2!
While the opioid crisis affects the nation at large, a study by the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention found that Utah’s drug overdose mortality
rate was higher than the national average.In fact, prescription drug
overdoses cause more deaths in Utah than firearms, falls and motor vehicle
crashes, according to the Utah Department of Health. From 2013-15, Utah ranked
No. 7 in deaths from prescription drug overdoses.But opioids
aren’t the only issue. Despite its label as a “stone cold
sober” state, Utah also ranked seventh in the nation for the number of
alcohol poisoning deaths. And Utah was recently cited as one of the three states
with the highest level of depression, according to a 2018 study by Blue Cross
Why don't we put it on the ballot and let the people decide, Isn't
that what we call a democratic society. I mean Non LDS folks don't get to
make decisions in how the LDS church is run.
I hope that we can put fear and dogma aside as we exercise compassion toward our
fellow man. The status quo will continue to promulgate suffering.
All cannabinoids are legal for study under Utah and federal law, with THC
limited by Utah to less than 10% of the cannabidiol in a studied dose. Doctors
familiar with cannabinoids believe that restriction on THC, the psychoactive
component, provides an adequate amount. Utah studies can be started
quickly as opposed to federal FDA studies that still take a couple of years to
prepare and execute. So Utahns can develop a sound scientific basis for
what actually works as opposed to what people hope it may do. There is
no doubt that cannabinoids are helpful and Utah can be the leader in this area
just as it is the leader in the genetic cause/relationship with disease.
Please, let us use wisdom and judgment in understanding how cannabinoids work
for the good and benefit of man--all mankind, not just those of us in Utah.
To "UtahTroutStalker" the issue isn't the medical use of the drug.
The issue is how to legalize it and distribute it.The question
remains unanswered that is the key to the debate. Can a state create a law that
goes against federal law?If you say that Utah can make a law that
goes against federal law, then Utah doesn't need to get the Feds to turn
over land to Utah, it can just make a law declaring federal lands to be under
Utah State control. California could declare an open border with Mexico. New
York could declare all EPA regulations void. The order of law will be destroyed
and States will have power to ignore any federal law they want.
The LDS church says it supports medical cannabis, well they are kind of late to
the party.They LDS church could have gotten out ahead on this and
helped craft legislation to support their new position, but they did not. They
have delayed all previous attempts, and now the people of the state of Utah are
about to speak just like they have in CA, NV, WA, OR, AZ, CO.....Eventually, I am sure they will attach the cannabis dispensaries to the State
Liquor Stores and charge a huge tax on it.
Marijuana is a drug. Why can't we treat it like one?Frankly,
I'm surprised that big pharma and big agriculture-based companies
haven't combined forces to get into the medical marijuana business. With
the recent unpopularity of genetically modified plant foods, the businesses that
have the expertise to genetically modify plants need to branch out into
different markets to stay afloat. Also, big tobacco companies have also been
losing a lot of business. All of these businesses could branch into the
business of medical marijuana and make a lot of money--then all of a sudden,
medical marijuana would gain respectability.If marijuana really does
have the ability to be a much better pain killer with more manageable
side-effects, or to be a much better treatment for anxiety, lack of focus and
emotional pain caused by depression, or a much better treatment for seizures, or
a treatment for cancer, why shouldn't big pharmaceutical companies and big
agricultural-related businesses jump head first into the business of producing
It's curious to me that marijuana has been around so long, and has been
used (illegally) by so many individuals to "self-medicate" formany
medical issues with some degree of success, but there have been almost no
medical studies conducted to determine which medical conditions, if any, the
active ingredients in marijuana (THC or CBD, or a combination of both) might be
successful in treating.It appears that marijuana currently has a
terrible stigma detracting from its potential medical benefits, due to ill
effects from its recreational use (impairing motivation, inhibitions, judgment,
cognitive and physical abilities, much like alcohol).If THC or a
combination of THC and CBD can be a better pain medication than opioids, which
have created the current Utah opioid addiction epidemic, why not to make that
medicine available? If CBD or a combination of CBD and THC can prevent
seizures; treat anxiety, lack of focus and emotional pain of those suffering
from depression or bi-polar; or treat cancer; with little or no side effects,
why not make that medicine available?None of this medical research
can take place until Utah's laws are changed making medicinal use of
Marijuana contains two major cannabinoids (& other cannabinoids in trace
amounts)--(1) tetrahydrocannbinol (THC), which is psychotropic, and (2)
cannabidiol (CBD), which is non-psychotropic.Currently, Utah
marijuana laws lump both major cannabinoids together--THC and CBD--and prohibit
the use of both substances, although CBD does not have a psychotropic side
effect (doesn't get the user "high" or destroy brain cells, similar
to THC), and does not reasonably appear to be addictive, but reasonably appears
to provide some significant medical benefits, including controlling seizures
(for those individuals who suffer from seizures) and reducing anxiety and
improving focus (for individuals with mental health issues such as bi-polar).
THC appears to have some medical uses as well (acting as a much more
non-addictive pain killer than Oxycodone, for example), but has more negative
side effects (it gets the user "high" and destroys brain cells).It reasonably appears that the two cannabinoids could also be combined,
blended & mainpulated to possibly create additional medical benefits,
similar to how other natural occurring substances are blended and used in
The church has remained on the questionably wrong side of history on so many
issues for so long... why change course now?
Seems to me there is a rather simple question for folks to answer for
themselves. Either The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
is just an organization of people who share certain values or lifestyle. If
this is the case, then The Church is no different than another organization
including your favorite political party, social coalition, service club, book
club, etc. Its members have every right to freedom of speech both collectively
and individually. Just like those organizations supporting this initiative
do.Or, The Church is actually God's Kingdom on Earth, lead by
Jesus Christ who reveals His will to living Prophets and Apostles. If this is
true, The Church and its members still enjoy every right to voice their opinions
in the public sphere. In addition, we then have the privilege of deciding
whether to follow prophet counsel or not.And make no mistake,
nothing like this goes out without full approval of the Prophet/President and
1st Presidency. Others will make their choices. As for me and my
household, I intend to follow the prophet as best I can. Following only when I
fully agree is not really very faithful.
@Dan MaloyYou are right - I do believe the church is run by men. Men doing
their best. Good men, but men all the less.I believe this because it is
what they have said. Elder Uchtdorf (President at the time), said "I
suppose the Church would be perfect only if it were run by perfect beings. God
is perfect, and His doctrine is pure. But He works through us—His
imperfect children—and imperfect people make mistakes." (See his
General conference address Oct. 2013 Come Join With Us)President Brigham
Young wrote spoke about and wrote abhorrent things about minorities and
mixed-race marriage. Today the prophets have disavowed his teachings "Today,
the Church disavows the theories advanced in the past that black skin is a sign
of divine disfavor or curse, or that it reflects unrighteous actions in a
premortal life; that mixed-race marriages are a sin; or that blacks or people of
any other race or ethnicity are inferior in any way to anyone else. " (See
Race and the priesthood essay on lds.org)My point being, these are men and
they are flawed. I can give you dozens of examples of policies made and changed
by subsequent church leadership, men are in charge.
“I teach them correct principles, and they govern themselves,”
Joseph Smith. Is this one of the church principles that will be removed
soon?"Apparently no, the Church is teaching a correct principle,
and is letting the members govern themselves. What is showing is people are
objecting to the Church teaching correct principles.
@ Wasatch Al - South Jordan, UT - Aug. 24, 2018 11:18 a.m. “I teach them
correct principles, and they govern themselves,” Joseph Smith. Is this
one of the church principles that will be removed soon?"That's what the LDS church just did: taught the members correct
principles. The principle they taught was that bad laws don't bring about
good outcomes. Then they left the members to choose for themselves.
“I teach them correct principles, and they govern themselves,”
Joseph Smith. Is this one of the church principles that will be removed soon?
@Trout - Hyde Park, UT"I don't mind my church telling me to
love my neighbor, be more Christ-like, etc. When they send me an email to tell
me how to vote - that is too far. Tell me to study it out and decide for myself.
Do not tell me how to vote. It felt like a very manipulative tactic to
me."_____________I don't see it as manipulative at
all. If The Church kept track of which members vote, and how they vote, then
that would be manipulative. If The Church took privileges away (such as Temple
Recommends, partaking of the Sacrament, etc.) because of how a person voted,
then that would be manipulative. But The Church won't do that.You are free to "study it out and decide for myself" and vote how you
see fit, without any repercussions from The Church, and without anybody in The
Church knowing how you vote.There is nothing manipulative about that
@ Trout - With that attitude, you likely won't last much longer
in the Church. Are you offended now? What for? You say you have no problem
telling you to love your neighbor, but you have a problem when they "tell
you how to vote".My question to you is, who do you think is in
charge of the LDS church? "Men" or "Jesus"? By your own words
you must think it is merely "men". Why do I say that? Because you
think that what the leaders of the LDS church said is ridiculous, i.e., I assume
you would say Christ would not do ridiculous or foolish things, therefore you
obviously think the Church is only led by "men".What does
Christ say? Matthew 10:34-38..."Think not that I am come to
send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.For I am
come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her
mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.And a
man’s foes shall be they of his own household.He that loveth
father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or
daughter more than me is not worthy of me.And he that taketh not his
cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me."
@ jsf - You asked who believes in God and revelation these days?I do.
To those claiming that marijuana is a "harmless" drug, you are
naÏve in the extreme. It is addicting and destructive. I know of more
than one person who is destroying their life by living in idle/going nowhere and
accomplishing nothing beyond high school (no family, no job, no drive or work
ethic) due to being in a constant marijuana-filled haze. A good friend of mine
in Florida has a son who is in this boat and it kills my friend to see his son
throwing his life away. But this will "never" happen to anyone in Utah,
right?To those claiming that they are members of The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints but oppose the Church's position, you are
acting in opposition to those you claim you have faith in. There is no middle
ground. As prophesied, the split is growing every single day. What side will
you choose?To those claiming that the LDS church should stay out of
"politics", this isn't about "politics", it is about
"morality". Should the LDS church stay quiet on issues involving
morality and ethics?
I don't mind my church telling me to love my neighbor, be more Christ-like,
etc. When they send me an email to tell me how to vote - that is too far. Tell
me to study it out and decide for myself. Do not tell me how to vote. It felt
like a very manipulative tactic to me. If the church really wanted medical
marijuana for those in need they would not have staved off the legislation
several times. This initiative is a direct result of their involvement in
lobbying our government. Now they are lobbying me as a member of their church.
I am waiting for the email where they tell me I must vote for Mit Romney as
Fear is Satan's best weapon.
Three thoughts:1-If the marijuana initiative is really about
medicine, why is the Utah Medical Association against it? Physicians know full
well that it doesn't take much for a patient to present subjective symptoms
of "chronic pain" to persuade her/his doctor to issue a medical card.2-This initiative is an invitation for a conflict with federal law
enforcement. Congress has criminalized the cultivation, distribution, and
possession of marijuana. 21 U.S.C. § 801. We may go through periods of lax
enforcement by the feds, but it is foolish for Utah to adopt a law directly in
conflict with federal law. 3-Human nature teaches us that users will
abuse the law. Once a patient receives a card, she/he will be free to grow up
to 6 plants, with no effective controls over enforcing this limit or the dosage
used by the patient.
More 'needs more study' while people suffer. This plant
has been around since before humans and there has never been an overdose.Ignore these people who have no idea what they are talking about.Vote yes.And if you need cannabis just ask nearly anyone or drive
to Colorado or Nevada. Stop waiting for these guys to 'study' more.
They have no intention of ever doing anything about it.
I grew up in Utah. I spent the last 20 years in Nevada where we have had
medical marijuana for a decade. The complete breakdown of society didn't
occur like the Church is warning. In fact, recreational marijuana became legal
over a year ago and neither of our teenage boys became potheads. Change is
scary, but don't let fear stand in the way of doing what is right. We just
moved to Canada. Canada is known for having a very high quality of
life.......much higher than the USA. Recreational marijuana will become legal
up here nationwide in October. We're not scared. We have our own values
and will continue to live by them.
The church should stay out of it.
@ Fitness Freak & Lia: Just because the Church takes a neutral stand on
candidates during elections, does not mean they must take a neutral stand on
other issues. In fact, if someday God asks the Church someday to take a stand on
a candidate, it will. The Church has every right to speak out. The quote from
the Utah state constitution, given by Lia, is not relevant here.@
Neanderthal: Even though pot isn’t in the word of wisdom, do you not
believe that our modern leaders also speak for God?@ Boberino: Just
because pot is abuse-able does not mean it cannot have good uses. D&C 89
says that alcohol and tobacco have correct uses. I wonder how many vegetables we
eat routinely would be bad for us if we smoked them.
"We call on lawmakers, patients and community leaders to come together to
find an appropriate solution to benefit all Utahns" -- well, a coalition of
you are already together, and there is no shortage of policy talent. So come up
with a better alternative so those patients who will benefit from therapeutic
use no longer have to wait to alleviate their suffering. Governor Herbert, call
a special session. Don't just say "no": Lead!
"They didn't really offer a solution, did they?"Pretty
much sums it up.
I agree with the Utah coalition opposing the Prop 2 initiative. I will be voting
no and encouraging friends to do the same. As the coalition states, this is NOT
the right way to allow for safe use of marijuana for patients or the general
public. We already have a well-established system to help ensure patients and
doctors know what they are getting and to reduce risks. This proposition is set
up outside that system, and is unwise. Vote NO on Prop 2.
Opponents of the medical marijuana initiative are effectively saying let's
wait a number of years until we can come up with a perfect law. It's good
that the Founding Fathers did not allow the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Otherwise, they'd never have approved the Constitution.Also,
opponents of the initiative have been foot-dragging for years on this, and today
they said, "Let's drag our feet for a few more years."
This was my understanding of the church’s position all along. I’ve
never read or heard of anything in which the LDS church outright opposed medical
marijuana, I’ve only heard opposition to the intitaitve. But, people will
find what they want to in any circumstance.The church wants people
who are in need of medical marijuana to have that as an option, but they want to
go about it in the right way. That’s exactly how it should be done. The
LDS church cares about those who are suffering, and they also care about the
negative impacts that this initiative could have on families and individuals.
Just as those suffering with chronic pain or seizures, want to have
access to the medical marijuana, there are also families who are experiencing
major negative consequences and repercussions because they are dealing with
family members who have a marijuana addiction. So many argue that
marijuana is harmless and non addictive, but that is simply not true. In fact,
if you were to talk recovering drug addicts, most of them would share the belief
that marijuana is unsafe and addictive. If this initiative is passed we will see
an increase in the harmful affects of recreational marijuana use.
I'm a little surprise the LDS Church is opening opposing this legislation.
Usually they state their position, but stop short of stating support or
opposition, leaving that up to the free agency of the member. I expect that is
the case in this instance as well though I wish they would clarify that this is
the case I have a dear friends whose life changed after her debilitating pain
went away after the use of medical marijuana in AZ. Certainly there will be
those who abuse marijuana, but they will find a way to get it anyway. It's
those who want to follow the law who will benefit and use it properly. Since I
live in AZ, I can only say that I know where my vote will be case when related
issues in my state come up for consideration.
To "andyjaggy" again, you are wrong. There are legal forms of marijuana
specifically for the problems you list. Please look up Marinol and talk to your
doctor about it.The FDA has approved a handful of medications that
are marijuana based.
RedShirtHarvard said:"To "rhodger" so you would prefer
to violate federal law and the FDA to get access to marijuana. If you are
willing to let states defy drug laws, what other federal laws can states
violate?"And just like that one of our 'states rights
conservatives' becomes a federalist. Amazing. @andyjaggyJust ask anyone under the age of 50 if they can 'find you a bag'.
Your wife will have some by tonight. Its everywhere which makes this entire
facade so funny. Vote yes.
The Prophet has a better connection to God than anyone else I know of. If he
says this proposition is too dangerous, that's good enough for me.
This is more about property rights that can also impact religious freedom. No
one should be forced to allow marijuana on their property. This current
referendum does not grant that freedom.
Desert Pete. I appreciate your faith in your religious leaders. I understand
how your regard for them would have more weight than my opinion. But just
consider this; faith has one serious problem, it can be and often is misplaced.
When you read these comments please consider the views of Latter Day Saints who
take a very different position on this issue than you. Further, I
suggest that your apocalyptic prophecy on what will happen if the medical
marijuana initiative is passed has not been demonstrated in the 31 other states
who have approved it.
The disgusting thing about this initiative are the parents who parade their
children in front of the media, acting as a visual, in order to advance their
own political agenda. Its a loud, noisy, minority of voters who want this to
Marijuana lowers short term memory and the ability to concentrate.
Hopefully this clarifies any misunderstandings some critics have of the The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints' position on this particular
marijuana initiative. It's about the well-being and safety of
the citizens in Utah. This initiative helps with neither.
Take a short trip across Utah state lines to Mesquite or Grand Junction and soon
to Wendover and you can purchase as much Marijuana as you like.
My main concern is the danger it creates for those who drive. Colorado has
reported a significant increase in DUI convictions since its legalization there,
and they say that's due to increased use of the now-legal substance. We
already have a problem with drunk drivers.
Here in Utah we are governed by the Legislature and the Mormon Chruch, To bad
that we can't vote for LDS Chruch representation.
Over the years I've had close friends involved in serious accidents that
relied on marijuana to ease their pain. This was done after all available
narcotics were shown to be useless. To tell someone they cannot have access to
an option is cruel.I've also had close friends and family enter
rehab for addiction to opioids. Lack of a prescription did not stop them from
obtaining their daily fix. Likewise I had several friends in high school mess up
their lives due to marijuana.If the coalition (Drug Safe Utah, the
Church, doctors, diocese, etc) are opposed to the proposition as it is currently
written, what needs to be done to satisfy their concerns while still meeting the
needs of patients? Is there common ground that can be reached?Instead of saying "No", how about saying "No, not now, but here is
what will work..."?I'm grumpy because I was told to stop
spoiling the grandkids.
"How controlling and manipulative is the church looking now? For shame.
" Amazing, how controlling and manipulative is Hunt looking
now? For shame.
ReadShirtHarvard. Your comment is so over the top that I really don't know
where to start. Currently 31 States and 2 territories permit
medical marijuana. So if I am for breaking federal law I certainly am not
alone. Next let me next say that I have never in my 74 years life taken or used
an illegal drug. As of this date I have no medical condition that would make
that necessary. But I do have a son with seizures and who is medically
disabled. He has at one time or another been on as many as 11 prescriptions
drugs costing thousands of taxpayer dollars. None of these are any more
effective for his condition than marijuana. This is not about creeping
totalitarianism RSH. It's about common sense and basic human decency.
There you go. The Islamic Society of Utah has also voiced their opposition to
the initiative. Notice none of the listed First Amendment allowed
right of the people peaceably to assemble associations has advocated limiting
the people's right to vote, but advocates of the initiative are advocating
the limitation of the freedom of speech of these associations.The
seperation of church and state does not limit the freedom of speech.
Elder Gerard refers to 'other states having "experienced serious
consequences to the health and safety of" their residents due to marijuana
laws that are too permissive.' I'd like to know what he's
specifically referring to. I haven't seen ANY "serious consequences to
the health and safety of" residents of states with looser marijuana laws.
Cite your sources, please, Elder Gerard.
This is absolutely laughable. The Legislature tried to pass medical marijuana a
few years ago but it lost in the Senate by one deciding voter. As a member of
the church they changed their position when the Church came out against medical
marijuana. Now the church says they are FOR medical marijuana, just
not in the way that will be presented to voters. How controlling
and manipulative is the church looking now? For shame. The church
had their chance. The legislature had their chance. Now it is the peoples
turn. Lets do the right thing Utah. Lets not allow a religious
organization and a government, very much beholden to that organization, postpone
the relief of suffering any longer. No more games. No more
grandstanding.No more excuses for postponement.The power is in our
hands. Do the right thing and vote yes.
rhodger -- I have a lot more faith in the church leaders than your opinion.----
For someone to assume that this initiative is solely about medical reasons and
will be safe would also assume no one will be killed on the highway this year.
--- If passed it will open the flood gates to abuse,wasteful spending
,separation of families ,Impaired driving,neglect and abuse and addiction of
children --- Some will profit financially big time but the unintended
consequences of this initiative if passed will be felt in the lives of innocent
people for years to come. There is a better way for those who need medical
marijuana to obtain it. If they spent the money on that instead of what they
have proposed everyone would be better served
The Church should stay out of the marijuana issue. The stuff is not in the Word
of Wisdom. If the Church wishes to get involved in keeping people healthy it
should insist on laws banning sugar-laden drinks, such as colas.
"As a member of the church, I am adamantly opposed to their position on this
issue"As a member of the church, it is a tradition of my
fathers. As such I refuse to accept their wisdom, or have faith in their
authority of speaking for the Lord. I also, have not been to church in 20
years, and have a beer once in awhile when my wife does not notice. Or I just
go to carry on the traditions of my fathers. Who believes in God
and revelation in these days, but I can say I am a member of the church.All said, I am a member of the church and I will urge all I know, and
members of the church to look to "the brass serpent on the pole" and
vote against this initiative.
My 35 year old wife was diagnosed with breast cancer about a month ago. She is
currently undergoing chemo and asked me if she could try marijuana to help with
the nausea. I had to tell her that she didn't have that option because our
legislatures think they know better. Instead her oncologist prescribed a
benzodiazepine to help her with her nausea. benzodiazepines are incredibly
addictive and dangerous, far more addictive and dangerous than marijuana ever
could be. Marijuana may or may not have helped her, but the point is she
doesn't even have the choice to try a safer and more natural alternative,
she is instead given a highly addictive and dangerous substance because our
state legislatures, and unfortunately now The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints think they know better. If this proposal is filled with bad loopholes
and poor oversight than our legislatures should have stepped up to the plate and
put their own proposal together.
As a suggestion, how about the mormon church providing advice to their
membership as to how to exercise options available in society, while leaving
nonmembers free agency to exercise their options as well. As to the many
desperate people that are hurting, many that have little time, let them decide
if risking laziness is an acceptable trade off to get rid of seizures, reduce
unacceptable pain, or come to grip with ptsd. A to the general public, maybe
they can be allowed to focus on reducing actually clearly dangerous drugs that
are killing people every day with an option that does not kill. Last, there are
many ways to waste time and enjoy laziness, maybe we can allow people to make
decisions that are most often the correct choice.
NewsFlash. You are simply incorrect. There are all kinds limitations and
"contol"(s) implicit under the licensing requirements. The 1200
character Character limits keep me from a full discussion of the controls but
here are some.Local governments would be prohibited from enacting
zoning ordinances to ban cultivation facilities, processing facilities, testing
laboratories, and dispensaries on the basis that these businesses possess, grow,
manufacture, or sell marijuana or that these types of businesses violate federal
law. Local governments would be allowed to pass laws governing the time, place,
and manner of dispensary operations. Other local zoning ordinances would also
apply to marijuana businesses. The initiative would prohibit businesses from
being within 600 feet of a school, public park, playground, church, or library
and 300 feet of lots zoned for residential use.
Sad.The church, involving itself in politics, that is.No
matter which way the voters vote - the Church should have just taken it a very
neutral stand.Besides, as they say: "the horse already left the
barn"! People can drive 90 miles and buy ALL the pot they want, the only
difference is Nevada gets all the tax revenue.I wish the church
would stick to theology, (which they're good at btw,)and leave civics to
the general electorate.
"Let the people decide." Does not equate to voicing opposition. Every single group of associated individuals declaring their opposition
(freedom of assembly) does not violate the right of individuals to vote. As you stated the people will decide. And if they, the
people vote against the initiative will those that voted for the initiative
accept the vote? That is democracy. Trying to limit the political
voice of associations of voters is a violation of free speech.
The church should stay out of politics. See this from the Utah State
Constitution:Sec. 4. [Religious liberty.] The rights of conscience
shall never be infringed. The State shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; no religious
test shall be required as a qualification for any office of public trust or for
any vote at any election; nor shall any person be incompetent as a witness or
juror on account of religious belief or the absence thereof. There shall be no
union of Church and State, nor shall any church dominate the State or interfere
with its functions. No public money or property shall be appropriated for or
applied to any religious worship, exercise or instruction, or for the support of
any ecclesiastical establishment. No property qualification shall be required of
any person to vote, or hold office, except as provided in this Constitution.
To "rhodger" so you would prefer to violate federal law and the FDA to
get access to marijuana. If you are willing to let states defy drug laws, what
other federal laws can states violate? Could a state decide that slavery was ok,
or how about eliminating gay marriage, or segregation, or income taxes, or why
not just pass a law and reclaim all federal lands for the state, or any other
federal law. If a state can just pass a law saying they don't like a
federal law and are going to do something different, how do you draw a line and
say that a state must follow federal law?The true question here is
are we a nation of laws or not? As each state passes a medical marijuana bill,
it sends the message that laws are more guidelines and don't really mean
much. Eventually things will get so bad that people will beg for a totalitarian
government just to get things under control. So, do you want to be on the side
pushing for things that will lead to totalitarian government or do you want to
vote to maintain federal law?
Other groups opposing this initiative:Utah Medical AssociationUtah
Narcotics Officers Assn.D.A.R.E. UtahDEA Salt Lake Metro Narcotics
Task ForceGovernor Gary Herbert & Lt. Governor Spencer CoxUtah
Sheriff’s AssociationUtah Psychiatric AssociationThe Episcopal
DioceseAmerican Medical Association – the nation’s
largest medical group – still considers cannabis a “dangerous
drug” that should not be legalized for either recreational or medical
use.Does their open opposition make you think less of them.
Let's remember that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints also
told their membership to vote against the repeal of prohibition, which they
disregarded and pushed the ammendment over the top.According to my
devout grandmother, the general populace was seeing too many of their neighbors
poisoned from bad bathtub alcohol, and the presence of feds trying to catch the
scofflaws around town.
As a member of the church, I am adamantly opposed to their position on this
issue and will both vote for and encourage others to vote for medical compassion
for those who will benefit. Those who participate in recreational use already do
so. This initiative will change nothing in that regard. To think otherwise is
naive at best and cruel at worst.
By telling everyone they support medical use, it appears this coalition hopes to
sink the initiative so the legislature can do nothing and the law will remain
unchanged. The initiative is on the ballot because Utah's
legislature refused to act when they had the opportunity. If they did their job
and listened to Utahans, who overwhelmingly want medical use of cannabis
legalized, this ballot initiative would never have happened. I hope
Utahans will send a clear message that we want this to happen, come November.
The people petitioned the Government for a right to vote on this subject. Let
the people decide.
"Just curious, have any other churches weighed in ?" The Episcopal
Diocese/ per the article. But nobody is going to mention that fact. The only
articles are claiming it is only the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
rhodger - Have you read the initiative? There is no control on how marijuana is
to be farmed, produced, and distributed.Even in Arizona where
medical marijuana is legal, it is "Controlled".I do not have
a problem using marijuana for medical reasons, but I sure don't want billy
bob joe down the street having access to it.
Just curious, have any other churches weighed in ?
I have been taught from my youth that marijuana is bad for you. I am a little
skeptical of a substance that is supposed to be for medical purposes but is fun
to use. This measure will no doubt open the door to misuse and abuse. I am for
medical advances being available to patients, but let’s get it right.
Once a bad law gets passed, it’s hard to fix. The ACA comes to mind.
This is a deflection. And those groups in opposition should be ashamed of
themselves. To say that they oppose this medical marijuana measure but would
support medical marijuana "properly regulated" is nothing but a strategy
designed to defeat this ballot initiative. The fact that the Mormon Church now
comes out in open opposition when they tried a behind the scenes approach that
failed makes me think less of them.