''Utah [is] hosting competitive House, Senate or gubernatorial races
in November.'' Wishful thinking. All Republicans will win in state
wide or multi county districts. The article missed that Trump hosted the
Mormon Tabernacle Choir at his inauguration. The choir sat behind him and the
Supreme Court wearing white coats first worn for the 2002 winter Olympics. The
choir sang 'America the Beautiful.' And America is beautiful.
We are so afraid of socialism taking over that we would have a king of
unrighteousness and his family run the country. Where is our courage to make
another choice than either main party? Independents like me are also intelligent
people looking for solutions.
"And also trust no one to be your teacher nor your minister, except he be a
man of God, walking in his ways and keeping his commandments. Thus did Alma
teach his people, that every man should love his neighbor as himself, that there
should be no contention among them." Trump and anyone who trusts
his ways and loves our economy are far from supporting freedom. The Presidency
can't be trusted, has evolved into more of a kingship and thus democracy is
slipping away. Trump is the perfect example of that and all the negative desires
of our people. Can any LDS support those who support this kind of rebellion
against freedom and democracy, even if they think their pocketbooks are becoming
bigger because of him?
I am a Mormon who voted for Evan McMullin because I couldn't stand Trump or
Hillary. I have to now admit that Trump has done some good things for this
country. Our economy is better and 2 great Supreme Court nominations are
plusses I can't ignore. I cringe every day when I learn of his latest
tweets and I do feel he has been divisive when he could have brought people
together with a more respectful tone.Trump reminds me of the Book of
Mormon Jaredite king Morianton: "he did ease the burden of the people, by
which he did gain favor in the eyes of the people...and he did do justice unto
the people, but not unto himself because of his many whoredoms...and the people
became exceedingly rich under his reign, both in buildings, and in gold and
silver, and in raising grain, and in flocks, and herds, and such things which
had been restored unto them." I really wish Pres. Trump could
grow up and be presidential. Maybe that will come with time. Right now I
intend to vote for him in 2020 and I continue to vote for those like Mia Love
and Mitt Romney who are supportive of the Trump policies that are good, but not
afraid to call him out when they disagree with him.
I'm a lifelong Conservative LDS who will never, ever vote for Trump or
anyone who supports him. The phrase cited here "feel(s) a little lost in
today's GOP" fits me to a T. The party used to be about values and
limited government, with respect for the Constitution, and an optimism about
America and it's place in the world. Today's GOP agenda is
run by talk radio and Fox News, and now the Libertarian/Alt Right and is all
about Fear and Anger. We've openly colluded with Russia in our elections
(past and present), attack our DOJ for prosecuting said collusion, have attacked
our allies, started trade wars/tariffs and supported coal/oil&gas over
sustainable energy, etc. We're killing our auto industry and environment
all at once. Our POTUS is a womanizer who has installed his family everywhere in
government, all while openly promoting and profiting from his position. No one in the GOP has the spine to stand up against Trump. Not even
Romney. Why wouldn't I vote for a moderate Democrat if that's the only
way to fight against the cult of Trump??
For all of you bashing Trump - do you really think Hill was a better candidate?
Do you think she is less corrupt or has better policies?Trump is not
a perfect man by a long shot, but there is no evidence of any actual corruption.
Leftists wanting it to be true does not make it true. Hill on the other hand
may be the most corrupt person ever to run for president in this country. Her
(and Bill's) corruption is well documented, researched and investigated.
And it's not just the prior election against Trump. The Hill campaign
illegally silenced the Sanders campaign. In Obamas 1st run the Hill primary
campaign was far more malicious than the actual presidential campaign. Every
negative thing said about Obama in the general election was first used by Hill
in the primaries - including the birther issue. So if you really
wanted Hill over Trump you have no grounds to cry "corruption" at all,
because she is far more corrupt that Trump ever dreamed of being.
I am LDS and generally have sided with the Republican. I could not bring myself
to hold my nose against the stink and vote for Trump last election and certainly
won't do it again nor will I vote for those who support his policies.
President Trump has been as advertised. He has been very offensive,
embarrassing internationally, corrupt and also very friendly to business
interests.It is interesting how divided our country has become since
9/11. I feel like we are slowly descending towards the emnity that existed in
the Book of Mormon with all sorts of 'Ites' fighting against each
I am a Conservative who didn't vote for Trump. And I haven't changed.
However, if Democrats think they can convince me of their agenda
they have an uphill battle. Gallup recently did a poll and found that the
majority of Democrats now favor Socialism over Capitalism. However
bad Trump may be, if the Socialists have their way in the future, people will be
desperately wishing they had Trump back.
In 2020, I see many LDS voters facing the same dilemma my wife might have faced
in 1980. She is a dedicated Democrat (one Republican friend once called her
'Hillary Clinton with character') who was afraid Ted Kennedy, who she
never forgave for Chappaquiddick, would seize the Democratic nomination from
Jimmy Carter. What would she do? Vote for a Democrat who agreed with her
on most issues...but she believed should be in prison, or vote for Ronald
Reagan, whose conservative policies she considered dangerous?Fortunately,
she didn't have to make this decision. But LDS members...and all
Republicans who believe that character counts in a Presidential candidate,
RiDAL, members of the Democratic Party are citizens of the country, Please be a
little more tolerant. One of my good friends,a former Bishop is a Democrat, he
is a very nice person. A Two party system is necessary for our system of
government to function well.
Voter distaste for Trump is exceeded only by the distaste for outright
socialists and others with animosity towards all traditional American moral and
ethical values in the Democrat party.We must recall that we did not
have a choice between Abe Lincoln and George Washington, but between Trump and
Hillary. The Demcrat Party has now swung even further Left with Bernie,
Warren, and Occassio-Cortez.
I agree with Worf. The world really has changed. People of both major political
parties held Nixon to account. Republicans used to be fiscally conservative. The
U.S. used to welcome immigrants. Republicans used to think character and
integrity mattered in a president. How times have changed.
@banliberals,"I have recorded all of my posts that you have not
posted and have delivered them to Get Gephardt........They have reached out and
would like to do a story about your site and how you silence right wing
advocates just like Facebook, Google, youtube.........lets see how you do now
that you are exposed! Even the SLLIB allows other points of view where you do
not.......You are a liberal bastion parading as a Conservative newspaper. Lets
see how you defend yourselves,,,,see you on Gephardt!"Go get em
Tiger! That comment was simply hilarious!
Trump is so awful, as a person and as a president, that I don't see how
anyone can support him. His daily lying is bad enough. But I'm surprised
the article didn't mention how Trump recently sided with Russia over his
own country, since Russia obviously hacked our 2016 election. I remember when
Romney ran for president he said Russia was our greatest threat.
A couple of questions I have gotten from active Mormons of the liberal
variety:Do you think it’s right for you to judge the state of
someone else’s marriage (in connection with Bill and Hillary)?Yes. I do. Not to condemn them to perdition. But, if one of them wants to be
my president, I think it’s my responsibility as a voter to analyze every
area of their lives, and base my decision on the totality of their lives. How can you support someone as immoral as Donald Trump?Depends on how you define “support.” My judgement, right now, is
to vote for Trump and Republicans in general, as long as the alternative is
Hillary Clinton and current Democrats. Call that “support” if you
like. But I’m just deciding who to vote for. Nothing more, nothing less.
Times have changed.Some LDS voters now favor politicians who uphold
abortion, alternative lifestyle, and the taking the fruits of citizen labor.
Who was the alternative that we were given to Trump ... Hillary Clinton ! now
thats an absolute joke to you nayayers.... HA HA HA ......
Truth and virtue does not grow from the pollution of hatred and bitterness
stemming from the mainstream media, Hollywood entertainers, and political
swamp.Do the people of Utah see past the smoke??
Just look at how hard the Communist Antifa, violent progressives, and fake news
media are fighting Trump. It is clear to me that a vote for Trump is a vote
against these people who want to destroy the United States. Many
Mormons have come around on Trump. He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke,
believes in having children, and works hard. He has supported religious
liberty, the constitution, the value of life of the unborn, and valuing
Americans above illegal aliens. Many who voted for McMullin or Johnson are now
ardent Trump supporters, and I expect it to continue.
I suspect that whatever distaste LDS members rightfully have for Trump they will
still vote Republican in November. It's what they do.
@1covey "It is interesting to note that some people think that voting by
default by not voting or voting for a 'no chance' candidate helps our
country."It signals political parties to nominate candidates who
merit our support. I could not support Hillary, and I could not support Trump. I
voted for neither. If they want me to vote for their candidate, they need to
send up a better candidate.
The gospel of Jesus Christ teaches the truth. It balances justice and mercy, the
letter and the spirit of the law completely, as well as every other virtue. I
like to think of it as a straight line in front of me.Political
parties are much more fallible. Both major parties include people (on both the
far left and the far right) that hold extreme views that violate either the
spirit or the letter of the law's of God, if not both. I like to think of
their views as leading 45 degrees to either the right or the left of the
straight line in front of me.But in our fallen world, it has always
been that way, and will continue to be so. In Christ's day, the extreme
right existed that ignored the spirit of the law (Pharisees) and an extremely
immoral left also existed (prostitutes). Christ had even harsher words for the
far right than for the far left of his day.This fact is something
that Mormon supporters of Trump should take a hard look at.
The Donald and his associates are getting more and more imperfect everyday.
@one old manMost of us do not "mindlessly support" President
Trump as you suggest.We just can't bring ourselves to consider
voting for someone like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, or Kamala
Harris among others.Can one just imagine what would happen to this
country under the "leadership" of any of those people?Thanks, but NO thanks. I will choose an imperfect Donald Trump any day.🤗
I am a woman; a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and I
support President Trump. Despite all odds, he gets things done, including for
people of color, because they are Americans. So very tired of the naysayers and
those who have no plan(s) except to impeach Trump--for what offense?????
"The majority of Americans in 30 out of 50 states (60%) chose to accept
President Trump,"This is the state of conservatives in this
country. It is clearly a distorted statement. 60% of Americans did not vote
for, nor support Trump. In a winner takes all election (something that needs to
change), Trump won many states without getting the majority of votes. It's not a lie the above statement, but sure is not an honest
statement either. And this is the problem - for both parties. Honesty....
gone. And when honesty is absent from a civilization, when beating your
opponent is more important than moral integrity, society in general is in a
state of deep decay.
@Thid barkerThere's no such thing as the lesser of two evils. You
aren't required to bubble in an option. You CHOSE to pick a dishonest
philanderer who clearly has no idea what he's doing. You had a plethora of
3rd party options or you could have just skilled the presidential box. You picked Mr Trump despite all evidence that he was a terrible candidate.
Look I get it. I remember watching the DNC just wishing they could provide a
platform I could support, that walked back from their extreme views.
Unfortunately they didn't. So when faced with two bad options,
I remember that I'm an American citizen, my duty isn't to a party,
it's to the United States of America and American deserves better than,
"the less of the two evils". It deserves me making a choice to not pick
a bad candidate just because the other candidate is also bad.
Couple a president who's morals are the antithesis of anything a real
conservative stands for be an issue - I sure hope so.
It was mentioned how low Utah's support for Trump was in the 2016 Election,
but that's because the Utah vote was split by McMullen, whose only purpose
was to split the Utah/LDS vote and steal a few electoral votes from the GOP
candidate, and thus help Clinton.Trump is not LDS, he was not raised
to our moral standards, nor has he converted to them. Therefore I do not hold
him to the same standards morally I would Mitt or another LDS candidate.
Instead I look to the position for which we are holding the election.In the case of Trump it was to elect a leader and an executive, one who would
appoint conservative Justices and strive to uphold the constitution. Really all
I expected out of him was the conservative justices because he had publicized
the list he would work from during the campaign. The economy is bonus (4.1% GDP
record low unemployment among minorities etc. etc. etc...). He's brought
NK to the negotiating table. He's gotten tariff agreements or promises to
negotiate from the EU, Canada, Mexico and others.But he's not
up for election this year, handing congress to the Dems would greatly hinder his
continued successes. No he's not the pope, he's the
It's a certainty that the LDS vote is not a 'bloc' vote as the
writer of this article believes. It is interesting to note that some people
think that voting by default by not voting or voting for a "no chance "
candidate helps our country. What is disturbing is that some prefer suave
deception in politics. Trump is what you get when you vote for a non -
politician. And don't forget what the alternative was. She made sure of
that by giving Bernie the shaft. Strangely, that turned out OK. I agreed with
Trump's platform; he has worked hard to fulfill that platform with some
notable success, considering a mostly biased media; judges who make their own
law and heated invective by his opposition. Trying to be diplomatic with
problematic leaders does not make one a puppet of them.
I am LDS to my core and my religion taught me to forgive past sins of others.
President Trump has sinned but so have I and everyone else. Today, President
Trump is a wonderful father and is a faithful husband. He is protecting the
religious liberty of Christians and the sovereignty of our Nation. He has
appointed 2 Constitutionalists to the SCOTUS and scores of Constitutionalist
judges to the lower courts. These justices and judges will rule by the
Constitution and not legislate according to their personal beliefs. Many
non-religious folks here do not understand the Christian gospel of forgiveness.
As Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". God
Bless President Trump!
@one old manI do not find it humorous that you intentionally
mis-spell President Trump's last name.I believe three times you
spell his last name without a capital "t" and leave a space between the
t and the rest of the name, emphasizing the "rump" of course.I don't expect to change your approach but feel better having expressed
my disapproval.Thank you.🤗
How would America be better today had Trump lost the election?What
are the expectations and goals of the Democrats?How can anyone vote
Democrat without knowing their objectives?
I have recorded all of my posts that you have not posted and have delivered them
to Get Gephardt........They have reached out and would like to do a story about
your site and how you silence right wing advocates just like Facebook, Google,
youtube.........lets see how you do now that you are exposed! Even the SLLIB
allows other points of view where you do not.......You are a liberal bastion
parading as a Conservative newspaper. Lets see how you defend yourselves,,,,see
you on Gephardt!
@RBB"then he implemented DACA which effectively changes the law by
executive order"DACA was enacted using the President's
prosecutorial discretion. It's the same legal basis used to protect
non-citizen spouses/widows of US service members and it's the same legal
basis used to protect non-citizen victims of human trafficking rescued within US
borders.The policy recognizes that there are outliers for
immigration laws that need and deserve special handling. Congress could and
should address the issue on a permanent basis, which is exactly what Obama
referred to, but it's too convenient as a wedge issue to actually address
the human factor involved with DACA.
In any election you make a choice between the people on the ballot. (Yes, I
have written in candidates, but you are still effectively choosing between the
two). If you cannot vote for Trump then you are effectively voting for his
opponent. Can you imagine if Hillary had won and she put another Ginsburg (or
two) on the Supreme Court. The SC would have leaned left for the rest of my
lifetime. Many judges on the left have little qualm about substituting their
own desires for the judgement of legislatures or the executive. They simply
recraft what the law is to what they want it to be. For example, our
immigration laws requires people who entered illegally to be deported. Obama
repeated admitted that he could not change the law - then he implemented DACA
which effectively changes the law by executive order. A new president can
reverse the executive orders of prior presidents just as easily - except 3
liberal judges have ruled that Trump cannot undue Obama's executive order.
They have made an executive order a new law. Trump is an imperfect vessel, but
he has done more to stop the lurch to the left than most Republicans in congress
Discernment might be lacking in this case.
I appreciate all those who no faults and for there hatred for our president.
Not how I have been taught to live by my religion(LDS). Thanks President Trump
for helping to make our Nation better and preserving our Constitution and
freedoms. I pray for you each day.
Another non story. Just like the poles showed Trump losing in the presidential
election, so is this showing nothing. When it comes to voting Utahians will do
the right thing and vote. Trump has done a lot of good, has worked hard to
follow up on his promises. Is he perfect, of course not, but looking at our
Supreme Court last judge who is in now, and the new one to soon be in. Its
always been about getting more conservative judges into Supreme Court and the
lower courts which has been done. We can not allow the courts to go more
liberal than they are. Wake up people we need to fight for our US Constitution,
etc. and Trump is the one to help with that. Do you really think its good for
this country to let a bunch of socialist democrats take over, NOT!
Active LDS, and I'm fine with a Democrat winning if it means that Trump is
Mormons (it is poor reporting to generalize) voted for Trump because of the
other option. Quite frankly if Mitt Romney ran as a moderate democrat, he would
obliterate Trump and Mormons would vote for a democrat.
I did not vote for Trump and will not. I like his court nominees, tax cuts,
deregulation, and getting out of the climate accord and the Iran agreement. I
don't like his infidelities, his tariffs, his big spending, his tweets, or
his temperament. I think there is nothing to Russian collusion but a lame excuse
for Hillary losing the election. I'm comfortable with leaving a blank space
on the ballot for Trump, and voting in all the other contests.
Sometimes it comes down to the lesser of two evils! When has America ever had a
"perfect" president? I could not bring myself to vote for Mrs. Clinton
so I chose not to vote at all in the presidential election, mostly because I
believed the news media and the polls and thought voting would be a waste of my
time! What if every American did what I did? I regret not voting! Given that, I
would vote for President Trump today! No, he isn't a perfect man but
neither are any of his critics!
Church leaders have never told us how to vote and they aren't going to
start now. But the one thing they have said to do is vote someone of good
character, good morals, upstanding citizen and so on. I can't remember the
specifics but it's that type of advice. I therefore can't in good
conscience vote for Trump. I don't know if that means I'll vote for
the Democratic candidate but I'll seriously consider it if that person
proves to be morally superior to Trump.
Perhaps it's time for Mormons who are horrified of t rump's actions
and of GOP members who mindlessly support him, to stand up and start
shouting.Loudly.Very loudly.It was the
people who didn't vote who actually elected t rump.And it was
the people of Germany who remained silent who enabled Hitler. It's time for Mormons (and all other Americans) who were once Republicans
to place the welfare of America above any party loyalty and get out and VOTE.
Even if it means voting for someone who is not a party member. Even if it is
(gasp) a Democrat or Independent candidate.The most important thing
we need to do right now is to send a message -- loud and clear -- to t rump and
to spineless GOP members of Congress who refuse to call him out that what's
happening now is completely intolerable.
You negative commenters still don't get it. For the LDS, support for
Trump is not at all about support for his life-style. It was and always will be
about preserving the integrity of the text of the US Constitution through
President Trump's appointments. Don't try to tell me that the LDS
want to elect a president who will replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg with someone just
Furry: I do not think your membership in the church is a factor. I am a member
as well. I think Trump is the best thing this country has seen since Reagan.
I do not see promoting Socialism as 'virtuous', nor
promoting abortion as 'doing good to all men'. I did not thinking a
government takeover of the health care system as praiseworthy. I do not think
allowing the government to make everybody dependent on them is
'benevolent', nor taking away a person's right to bear arms as
'lovely'. I do not think promoting marijuana use and appointing
judges that think the constitution is outdated has anything to do with
'hope'. I did endure Obama for 8 years without blaming
him for anything wrong in my personal life. In fact, with all his faults and
misguided notions about freedom and capitalism, I found some of his personal
qualities admirable. Other than that, I thought he was an absolute disaster for
American exceptionalism and a land and country I love dearly. Trump was the man needed for our time. Perhaps I am destabilizing the
continents for saying so, but Trump 2020 is my mantra for sure.
I think some of the LDS need just need to get over themselves. I am strong LDS,
but neither Democrat or Republican. Both parties are controlled by the
Gadiantons, including in Utah. That said, Pres. Trump has done more good for the
U.S. than anyone since Reagan. We proudly flout our high moral standards to
those who are without the law and point our fingers at the wicked from our
towering pedestals of righteousness. I would rather deal with someone
who's character I know about than someone who is a rabid wolf in
sheep's clothing who says all the right, soothing lies.
I attended weekly, ready daily, and pay annually. I love President Trump - A
working man and woman's president.President Trump has created
$7 Trillion in wealth, replaced 4.2 million food stamp checks with pay checks,
befriended Israel, ended the gov't war on Christians. created 7,000 new
jobs a day removing the curse of idleness.By their fruits ye shall
know them. What a wonderful non-perfect President we have. May God continue to
bless and protect him as he gives his life for his friends (The American
Someone above mentioned something along this line.Our two Senators Mike
Lee and Orrin Hatch, both admired largely by most all Utahn's have both
endorsed President Trump, and complimented him on numerous occasions. Is that
not sufficient for those of us who vote & live here? It is for me.After all, we are not voting for a Pastor or Bishop here, but a politician.
And, look at your alternatives, which are extremely bad choices, at least for
most of us.I like Trump, and proudly think he is doing a great job,
in spite of naysayers and Washington elite. I thin Hatch & Lee do too.
What an insult to Mormons! When those who hate Trump tell us that all Mormons
think alike and act as a herd, those people need to take their heads out of the
sand and look around. Intelligent, well educated Mormons can see the difference
between what Democrats offer and what Republicans offer. We live in an
imperfect world, but we were sent here to make it better. Tearing down Mormons,
as this article does by telling us that we have a herd mentality, is not a way
to make the world a better place - and to think that the Deseret News publishes
at least one major article a week dnouncing those who mock and misuse religion
to further their goals! Why are they going against their editorial board and
re BYUalum -Aug. 12, 2018 12:06 a.m.1) Trump an outsider? He has an
Ivy League degree & plenty of former G Sachs excecs in his administration2) He is a strong businessman and negotiator. Would a strong business
man bankrupt casinos? Would a shrewd negotiator pout like a 7 yo as he did at
the G7 in Canada recently?3) He is blunt and bold. He's
tactless & Self-absorbed4) No one pushes him around. Putin
does. KJU did. Limbaugh & Murdoch more than likely do.
In 2016, Trump received only 45% of Utah's vote which is the lowest
percentage of any of the states that voted for Trump. Some states that voted for
Hilary gave Trump a higher percentage than Utah did which indicates that Trump
is not popular or respected in Utah. Many voters felt like they were forced to
choose between a Jeroboam and a Rehoboam both of whom were wicked, tragic
rulers. In order for the United States to prosper, we need righteous leadership.
But for decades we elected people like Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, Trump,
etc. who have, by their words and behavior supported the war in Viet Nam,
abortion, sexual promiscuity, lying & deceit, etc. we cannot expect to
receive the Lord's help. And without His help, our nation will continue to
11 Guidelines Mormons Should Use in Evaluating Political Candidates. by Krista
Cook 1. Ask for Spiritual Assistance as You Evaluate Candidates.2.
Rely on Reliable Voter Information Websites/Sources.3. Identify/Examine
Candidate's Values. Identify what values guide the candidate in all
decision making, not just a particular position on one issue.4. Determine
Candidate's Personal Honesty/Integrity. High standards of truth/personal
integrity should be evident in every aspect of the candidate's life.5. Determine if Candidate is Able to Wield Power Righteously. If they
exploit/abuse anyone, this should be a concern. Look for abuse in any form.
People who cannot handle power, shouldn't have any.6. Determine how
Candidate Uses Information/Makes Decisions. To make good decisions, leaders must
ensure they hear both the good and the bad.7. Ignore/Avoid Examining
Voting Records. Project Vote Smart provides voting record analysis done by
specialized organizations.8. Remember candidates Inherit
Conditions/Decisions Made by Their Predecessors.9. Allow Candidates/Office
Holders to Change Their Minds.10. Is Candidate Willing to Work Hard?11. Remember That Laws Can Become Corrupted.
Trump is not running in November. That will be news to Trump bashers, but it is
the unvarnished truth. To tell Mormons to stay home because Trump was elected
in 2016 is the worst kind of propaganda. What we should do is what
Romney did in 2016, we should vote for our wives instead of the candidate that
is running. If anyone thinks that Romney is the "guy", they should do
exactly what he did. His example of civic responsiblity should be the target
that all of his followers aim for. I am a Mormon. I can tell the
difference between good and evil. I can tell the difference between what those
who are trying to conserve the Constitution are doing and those are doing who
think that the Constitution is a mere piece of paper that should have been torn
up two hundred years ago. I know what it will take to get judges appointed who
respect the Constitution. I know what it will take to drain the swamp and make
America great again. I am going to vote and I am not going to vote for those
whom the Trump bashers promote - including Romney.
Would we have been better off voting for the other person? To me the answer was
no. Most of the times I have voted, I have voted against people, not
for people. Right now the open border Democrats scare me, and Trump has done a
pretty good job.
I'm LDS, and have been a Trump supporter since he first proclaimed running
for Presidency!I'm not voting for a Bishop!But for a
President not from Washington, who will GET THINGS DONE !!!
The United Utah party is a good alternative.
I'm a strong and devout Latter-day Saint, as is my husband, and have been
for over 40 years. As such there is absolutely no way we can support someone
as corrupt, dishonest, amoral, licentious, and destructive., as trump.The 13h Article of Faith of our religion says:"We believe in being
honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men;
indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all
things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to
endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or
praiseworthy, we seek after these things. "trump is none of
those things and, as a result, we do not seek after him in any way. To comply
with the requirements and scriptures of our faith we are directed to reject him
and his excesses and programs because they are not "virtuous, lovely, or of
good report or praiseworthy". trump has done nothing good for
the United States, and we are falling into disrespect as a result. My husband
and I will follow our faith, and will do what is necessary to LEGALLY remove
trump and his regime from power, and work to restore our country to what it
@Irony GuySo, by your definition, President Trump cannot be
"evil" because he has done so much GOOD.🤔
As a recent immigrant from California to Utah, I don't understand Utah
politics. I've been a registered Republican all my life, and am an active
Mormon. But I've never voted a straight ticket. Ever. Until the 2016
election where I voted straight Democrat. Trump is a narcissistic
villain with a very spotted business record. As we will soon learn, Trump is the
most corrupt president we've ever had. His six bankruptcies shed a lot of
light on his "business acumen". He will not be running for re-election
because he will most likely be in jail. His White House is a shambles. His
foreign policy is stupid. And his tariffs will soon destroy the expansion. How
many new jobs has Trump created? How many of you will benefit from the "tax
cut". If you are not a millionaire, you will scarcely notice the difference.
You conservatives are usually opposed to deficits: Trump has sent the deficits
to the highest levels since WW II. Black and white religious
conviction is one thing. Black and white politics is another. My died in the
wool Republican father once told me: vote for the man, not the party.I will NEVER vote for Trump. I will not vote for a Trump supporter. Drain the
swamp? Vote Dem.
Republicans claim to be the party of family values and place a high value on
moral character. Trump represents neither of these values. Many are willing to
overlook his character flaws as long as unemployment is down and the stock
market up. I have always considered Trump to be a self centered, egotistical
and a bully who likes to hurl insults and pick fights with people. I voted for
Evan McMullin a far better candidate. Another good choice is Governor Kasich
of Ohio. The Republican Party has been taken over by extremists who place party
allegiance over country. How does that make America great again? Ronald Reagan
made America great by uniting the country and focusing on our common values.
Reagan had warmth and charisma. Today's Republicans are nothing like
Ha ha. We are not falling for it. Best President we have had in a long
time.I and millions of others have no desire to return to the Obama
or Bush years.A President who thinks outside of the box and corrects
problems that have existed right under our noses for years.No, I
don't like everything he says or does, or has done in his life, but as a
leader he is awesome.🤗
There won’t be a GOP after the 2020 electionsGet ready for 50
years of Dem control after Trump explodes the Republicans
I also think Mormons will do just fine among Republican candidates. Look at the
Republican platform and compare it to the Democrat's. Republicans stand for
everything in which I believe, and Yes! I am LDS to the core!God
bless America, and God bless our strong President Trump!
Trump enjoys high approval among MormonsAnd his approval broadly is
higher than Obama’s at this time in his presidency (see: Rasmussen)This is fake news
Democrats are pipe dreaming, again! Its very difficult for Mormons (and all
serious Christians) to support the Democratic platform! The left often mock and
ridicule people of Christian faith ("They cling to their Guns, their God and
their Bible")! The majority of Americans in 30 out of 50 states (60%)
chose to accept President Trump, with all his faults and all the accusations
(real or imagined) over his opponent with all her faults and accusations (real
or imagined)! That's called democracy! That's why Donald Trump is our
imperfect POTUS and why his also imperfect opponent never will be!
Have to agree with PP in Eagle Mountain.Hate to pop the utopian bubble of
the author and all the never's, but Trump won with the LDS vote, and will
@ PP"Steve Cottrell - you comments seem strangely inconsistent
with your claim that you are a registered republican."Using the
most charitable possible interpretation, let's assume that most registered
Republicans would claim that character and integrity are important values to
them. What the age of Trump has shown us is that some place these values at a
higher priority than others. Mr. Cottrell appears to fall into this category.
I am LDS, lean right, and I cannot bring myself to support Trump, with my vote
or financially. I second what @JBs said. I like some of his positions, but that
alone does not get my vote. I'm disgusted by his attitude and am saddened
when I hear someone defend that attitude. I also struggle to desire to support
other candidates who defend that behavior. I want someone who works together on
good policy and calls out the poor behavior.The Democratic party
also doesn't get my vote. I've consistently felt the party has no
desire to understand me or my motivations. It seems to me that if you don't
agree with their policy then you are labeled as someone against the poor,
uncaring to women, sexist, bigoted, etc. They play a game of social shaming
which is bullying and it's not a good alternative to Trump. Perhaps one day we will actually have a uniting voice running for office. I
don't have to agree on policies, but that person will surely get my vote
(as long as policies aren't absolutely bonkers).
LDS support for Trump is the irony of the century. I am as firm LDS
as anyone, and I cannot see how my fellow LDS can support the filthy stream of
lies, corruption, and contempt for humanity flowing out of the White House. How is it "consistent with LDS values" to lie constantly? to
cage up little children? To dump sewage into our air and water? To disparage
other countries as fecal matter? To reverse the drop in the deficit just to
further enrich billionaires with a bogus "tax cut"? To throw millions
of people off health insurance? To cut off financial aid to college students
when they need it most? To cozy up to thugs like Putin while assigning our
closest allies to "a special place in hell"? To defend white
supremacists as "fine people"? to spread contention with every childish
"tweet"? or to lie constantly about his adulteries? My Book
of Mormon denounces such men in the clearest of language: "For behold, God
hath said a man being evil cannot do that which is good." Obviously.
A co-worker and I had some well-intentioned and good-humored discussions during
the 16 election, mostly just ribbing each other about the candidates as I was
well known to be left leaning. Him being LDS I would rib him about supporting
Trump just because he was a Republican. This went on all the way up until the
election. The very next day he walked up to me looking quite shocked ( as was I)
that Donald Trump had won. He actually apologize to me. I think he realized
then that Obama was right and that elections have consequences. it's been
about a year-and-a-half now and he has not said one word about the political
Spectrum going on in the world. He acts ashamed. And perhaps he is. This gave me
no joy . The problem is I'm ashamed as well. I guess it's all fun and
games until Donald Trump gets elected to office.
@PP "pro constitution, Pro law enforcement, pro legal
immigration..."Trump's none of those. Are you sure you
voted for the right candidate?
Since when have Mormons not backed enforcing our borders from illegal
immigration? Kudos to Trump, the first President to really try to enforce our
borders from millions of people that largely don't care about breaking our
laws, share our values/pride in this country. Billions of dollars of illegal
drugs also cross the boarder annually. First time real manufacturing jobs have
come Back to the USA since the early 80s, lower taxes, higher wages for the
first time in 10+ years, record unemployment and job growth, especially among
minorities and women. Religious freedom is championed by Trump and his
district and supreme court picks will save our constitution from liberal
activist judges for at least a generation. The Alternative? The
liberals are running on repealing personal and corporate tax cuts, reversing our
prosperity. Support Obamacare,huge premium hikes, higher taxes,big government
control. They want to get rid of ICE and have open borders to bring in millions
more illegal votes. They plan to impeach Trump with Zero evidence of wrong
doing in the fabricated Russia Hoax. A vote for anyone but Trump or Republicans
is a vote for this nightmare Socialist vision.
So is it better to vote for someone who is an adulterer who is against abortion
and appoints good judges to the Supreme Court, or to vote for the person is is
totally faithful to his or her spouse who supports funding abortions with tax
dollars and.is likely to instill juustice like Ginsburg and Bryer?I
did not vote for Trump last time, but I probably will next time. While he is
brash, he has actually tried to keep his campaign promises. He is also willing
to get on the case of our allies who are not keeping their commitments on
defense spending.For all of you who are bothered by separating
familys at the border, why werent you upset when it happened under Clinton,
Bush and Obama
I don't know why any honest LDS person who faithfully supports people of
good "character" and "conscience" would support our President.
One can support the institutions of government, and its offices, without
sycophantically supporting unethical people and practices. In
almost every respect this President has shown himself to be a person of no moral
character without any sense for honesty, fair play, or ethics--one who is
willing to break rules to win at any cost-- even if it means undermining the
very people, rules, laws, and institutions of the public he is sworn to protect
and defend. I'm LDS and I can't in good conscience vote
for such a divisive and morally bankrupt politician, nor support those who
willingly choose to aid and abet such corrupt behavior over moral principle.
Politicians who aid him won't get my support at the ballot box. Should they
I am LDS also to the core, and I fully support President Trump.Although I don't agree with some things he says, I wholeheartedly feel
that he is the right man for this time as our POTUS. He is an outsider (no ties
to lobbyists or special interests) and that is what this country needed to clean
out the swamp in D.C. He is a strong businessman and negotiator. He is blunt and
bold. I LOVE that! No one pushes him around. He is a president for and of the
people. The more the left opposes him, the more I like him and his policies.I like seeing more jobs created, a strong economy, lower unemployment,
fewer people on food stamps and welfare, etc. I want enforced immigration laws
and a wall. I, myself, have enjoyed a 25% pay raise. I have loved the way he has
rolled regulations back from the prior administration.There's
still a lot to be done. The enormous cover-ups in the FBI, IRS, DOJ, etc. need
time to clean things out. I was worried, yet patient, for 8 years. I am
optimistic that he can do the job!I think people will weigh
carefully and choose wisely with Republicans. The Dems have no strong
platform.I pray for President Trump every day!
Well said JB, my complements. As someone who has been a Republican all my life,
Trump is not the kind of person I can support. We are counseled to support
honorable men for public office. My observation is that Trump is not an
honorable man. His shady business practices and personal morals disqualify him.
I am LDS to my core and I'm a never Trumper. There is no way, because of my
beliefs and values, that I could support him. There are more important things
than having a couple of extra pennies in my pocket because of tax cuts
(actually, my taxes have gone up). Character springs to mind, as does integrity,
telling the truth, putting the country and others first, compassion for others,
and seeing everyone as equally valuable. As far as I have been able to see,
Trump has none of those values.
Steve Cottrell - you comments seem strangely inconsistent with your claim that
you are a registered republican. Impartial - Since the two
candidates both have values inconsistent with LDS values you do the best you
can. But let me just say that anti abortion, pro constitution, Pro law
enforcement, pro legal immigration, conservative justices, low taxes - all
things pro LDS and all things Trump is in favor of. Sure he has issues in his
own life that aren't consistent with LDS values, but his governing
definitely is. On the other hand, Hillarys governing would have been wildly
inconsistent with LDS values. Not to mention her well documented and verified
corruption. To this point there hasn't been any verified corruption from
the trump campaign, just a lot of hot air from the media and leftists.How does a completely fabricated article like this even see the light of day.
It would take someone like Mitt or Lee running against Trump in the primaries to
even make most LDS people consider a change. Someone like Bernie Sanders -
currently the likely Dem candidate - wouldn't stand a chance.
I certainly do not support Trump, even though I am registered as a Republican.
Nor will I support any candidate who is a Trump supporter. His recent
attacks against allies at NATO and then supportive comments in favor of enemy
Putin ought to get him and his cronies out of office.
How did they rebuke him? They gave him the majority of their votes.
Since when is there distaste? Utah gives trump the highest approval rating in
the US, I would say the majority of LDS in Utah love trump. Cannot comprehend
how, but apparently they do.
Senators Orin Hatch and Mike Lee are the two most high profile LDS senators and
both are firm supporters of the president. Enough said. Perhaps the Deseret News
could at least allow people to hear from our senators here in Utah rather than
the side streams of noise from the left. Utah voted for the president and now
with the tax cuts and the appointment of justice Gorsuch his popularity among
LDS has grown. Fact.
Yep, LDS. Keep voting against your purported values, that you have had since
year 8. Just to keep an adulterous, lying, womanizing Republican in the White
House. Put aside your ethics and principles for the GOP. Sound about right?
I think the GOP will do just fine among Mormons this round.