Zions Bancorp CEO reluctantly heads to India to hire skilled workers he can’t find here

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  • DarthMaul Vernal, UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 9:13 p.m.

    So I guess it is time to ask the CEO's of US companies out there that what skills do they need to meet their needs that Universities in the U.S.A. are not teaching. A very bright childhood friend of mine went to MIT and before he graduated he was getting a lot of offers from big tech companies so again, what skills do these US companies need to meet their needs or are they trying to resort to hiring people from overseas so that they won't have to pay for the educational credentials of our young educated crowd here at home?

  • Strider303 American Fork, UT
    Aug. 9, 2018 2:34 p.m.

    My two-bit’s worth tells me that there are probably very few entry positions that really require a four-year degree. Most skills, I mean the knowledge and capability to perform the job, can be taught/trained in a vocational or junior college setting, maybe even on the job via an apprentice program.

    If Eisenhower warned of a military-industrial complex, I think it stands to reason we have created or allowed to flourish an educational-industrial complex that cons us into thinking college means education, and a four-year degree is worth the effort, frustration and appalling expense.

    Educators, the new word for people who used to teach, build new buildings, programs and staff to attract more students, which over-fills the buildings which require more buildings and faculty. The sad truth is that many students in our colleges don’t belong there, intellectually or emotionally. They would fare better in both short term and long run with training at a Vo-Ed or JC level.

    To add to the situation I feel capitalists want to get the most labor out of employees for the least amount of pay possible. This accounts for low wages and pleas for foreign workers to exploit.

  • idaho_programmer_328 Temecula, CA
    Aug. 9, 2018 12:28 a.m.

    Graduated from BYU with a Computer Science degree and solid GPA (3.7), and finding a job was still a huge hassle. Many employers didn't even get back to my application. Found a job- on East Coast. In the end I did have two offers, but it's interesting to see how they say there's a "shortage" of skills when there are so many new STEM graduates who have such a tough time getting a job. Even those new graduates with technology focused degrees. Also interesting that I didn't end up with an offer around Utah - one in CA and one on the East Coast.

    Are we SURE there's a skill shortage? Or do businesses just not want to pay high enough salaries to justify the cost and on-the-job-training of US based tech workers? Programmers in Utah don't make as much as many in other places even after adjusting for cost of living.

    Businesses should be more open to entry level workers, especially those who have relevant degrees.

  • Willis1776 Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 12:06 a.m.

    You guys are completely right and these "Executives" are completely wrong. There are numerous articles out there that predict a tough time for Utah's economy because of all the companies moving in and the lack of people willing to move to our market because of the lack of compensation our market is willing to dish out. Not because of the lack of talent to pull from but because Utah's income is not up to par with other growing markets (Denver, Texas, etc...) They can't attract the people they want or need because they don't way to pay them. And now the housing market is growing beyond what Utah's average single income home can afford. I'm actually quite shocked by what companies think these positions are worth especially when there are numerous websites that state national averages for salaries and Utah is below that when we should be above those averages.

  • 1Reader Alpine, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:46 p.m.

    An old publisher of the Deseret News used to complain: "What will these college students do with a Communications degree? Nothing, there's nothing you can do with it!"
    And yet, it's a huge major at the U of U, and it recently tripled in size at Utah State. And it's just super easy .
    These state schools give no advice or planning--and take no responsibility--about what their students will do when they graduate with these soft and useless degrees. They should be honest with their students--and tell them there are virtually no jobs for their big degrees.

  • 1Reader Alpine, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:41 p.m.

    When good jobs open up in the knowledge economy, who shows up? Indians, by the dozens, who are trained and motivated; they fill the applicant pools--and there are few Americans in the running.
    This is not moving slowly. Indians hugely value education and work hard; they're ambitious for the best jobs and positions--and over time that really pays off. Increasingly, they're now even the CEOs of many top companies--and this is just starting.
    We have 2 massive weaknesses, and they are very present in Utah:
    1) Weak education and effort nearly across the board. School is somewhat of a joke here, as teachers teach down to the middle of the grade. There's very little focus on quality education from parents, communities and certainly leaders. We care more about winning games than learning.
    2) People here always look at the easy path for cash--like becoming a realtor, sales person, developer, builder or whatever else it is we do here; just fast money. There's no drive to get the hardest degrees and jobs--and grind it out for years. There's a passiveness about getting ahead; people feel like they have enough, but soon it won't be.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:38 p.m.

    People keep saying we need more STEM degrees but in actuality we already have so many STEM degrees that almost half the STEM majors end up working in something else and you increasingly have to go to graduate school in order to pick up those STEM positions (and even then you can still have to wait months or years to get a decent paying job).

  • NV Teacher Henderson, NV
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:27 p.m.

    Time to get rid of Common Core in schools. It dictates what the kids SHOULD know instead of finding out what kids DO know. Budget cuts in schools have kids going down a single path. Not every student learns the same way. We don't allow the average student to do their own thinking. We have eliminated their options and expect them to problem solve when they reach maturity. Maybe this problem could be solved by talking to educators..... Except the people with the $$$$ don't think educators know anything.

  • birder Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 5:50 p.m.

    I don’t see Zion’s Bank ponying up the money to educate the children of the workers they are bringing in. There are several schools in South Jordan that are getting an influx of children due to this program.

    Aug. 7, 2018 5:13 p.m.

    I have worked in tech for decades, mostly for financial companies, but NEVER a bank. Early in my career I interviewed at a few banks and I quickly found that they spend very little on technology, the bare minimum possible. Thus, tech workers at banks must deal with keeping old, antiquated equipment up and running. Many tech workers, myself included, are not interested in working with old technology. I quickly found that brokerage firms and hedge funds often use cutting edge technology and pay much better than banks.

    So, I have no doubt that Zions Bank has difficulty hiring for some tech positions in the U.S. and must look elsewhere. Zions should look at funding education in return for a minimum work commitment. Many students would gladly take that exchange over having student loan debt.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    Aug. 7, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    tqseal - Liberal Central (Sugarhouse), UT
    Well, this is another observation that degrees like Lesbian Dance Theory don't pay the bills. Kids and teens need guidance on what the economy needs as they make these important decisions.

    A quick check indicates there may be about 200-300 colleges with majors in 'dance', all forms of dance, ranging from classical to various modern dance programs.

    According to the US Ed dept. there are over 4000 colleges in the US, with 1600 or so 2 year colleges, and 3000 or so for year institutions.

    So, 300 colleges that have a dance major program, are less than 10% of the colleges, and one would perhaps conjecture that "Lesbian Dance Theory" as a major, is far less than the 300 that have a dance performing arts program.

    In other words, the number of persons getting such a degree is so minuscule as to be almost nonexistent, and hence, should form no grounds for being stingy when it comes to supporting post high school education.

  • OneCougar FR, 00
    Aug. 7, 2018 1:46 p.m.

    Nonsense. Even during the recession when lots of highly-skilled technical people could not get good jobs, these same companies claimed they couldn't find skilled workers locally and abused H-1B visas to bring foreign workers here at a fraction of the salary a citizen would be paid (or else off-shored the jobs entirely). Most companies are currently making record profits, yet salaries have not kept up with profits, housing costs, and inflation. Pay what you should for those skills and you will find qualified people to work for you.

    And remember that companies traditionally understood that they would do significant on-the-job training of their new employees, but they now expect you to already know every specific thing they do before you even apply. They are much more likely to say "10 years of previous experience in X, Y, and Z required" when X or Y has only been around for 5 years than they are to hire someone who is generally and sufficiently qualified and then train them on the specific details of the job.

  • Moderator Nauvoo, IL
    Aug. 7, 2018 1:37 p.m.

    We need to be funding more useful, technical education, and less politically-driven leftist indoctrination education. Education needs to be something people do throughout their life and career, not just a one-time thing.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:56 p.m.

    RE: "For every company, the specific skill that is needed is different"...
    Correct. That's why our Universities should not be to train people to work at Company X... It should be their goal to identify and prove people with talent, ability, and interest to learn the type of skills needed at any company. And give the student some serious exposure to the type of work and skills that will be needed to succeed in that industry (not just at that one company). If they can learn tool-X, they can probably learn tool-Y (used at another company). Even if they learn tool-A in college, they will probably be using tool-B at their first job, and tool-Z by the end of their career.

    Like you pointed out, It's important for people who want these jobs (that require "highly educated, skilled workers") and executives at the companies to understand that these "highly educated, skilled workers" need to keep learning new tools and techniques throughout their careers, or in a short while they won't be useful in their industry anymore.

    Executives need to provide opportunities for continued education, and employees need to keep learning throughout their careers.

  • rodan32 Orem, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:50 p.m.

    I've been working in tech for more than 20 years. The issue in Utah isn't necessarily a lack of skilled workers. It's often unwillingness to pay skilled workers well. That's what drove me to take my family all over this fine country. I've been lucky enough to get work and come back home to Utah, but many workers are driven out of state by low wages. Very many of them would come home if they could afford to live on the salaries offered by Utah's tech companies.

    The H1-b is a whole different problem. I have very many co-workers from India, and I've found them to be (in general) hard workers and great people. It makes me a little sick to know that they're making so much less money than I am, and that their residence in this country is dependent on my employer's goodwill. It's unfair both to the local person who didn't get the job and to the person who uproots their life and moves to the other side of the world to be indentured to this corporation.

    I won't deny that our education system is a hot mess. It's a disaster. "More education" won't solve this if the plan is just more of the same nonsense that got us into it.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:39 p.m.

    If one studies the "rules" for h1b workers - it doesn't take much to understand that they are actually indentured servants.

    If they "lose" the job they were imported for - they are automatically subject to deportation, so the employer can basically treat them any way they want and if they complain - they get deported.

    There are ALSO rules in place (seldom enforced)that dictates the employer MUST demonstrate that they absolutely CANNOT fill the position with legal citizen candidates.

    The obvious answer is to rigidly enforce h1b applications - but I don't see that happening. Business persons are IN CHARGE of our economy, in case you haven't noticed!

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:28 p.m.

    I wonder if Harris’ father, Roy was reluctant to hire Harris? Roy’s good fortune allowed him to send Harris to Harvard to get “educated”. Otherwise, Harris’ position would most likely be held by someone else. The good news, Zions hasn’t forgot who keeps them in business.....

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:24 p.m.

    He made his choice..... low taxes, uncompetitive schools in favor of foreign labor. Its a choice. Own it. Don't pretend your sorry.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:22 p.m.

    When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

    We don't need more "education" and "college" we need practical courses targeted at actual jobs that people want filled. There is a huge demand for plumbers, electricians, mechanics, A/C techs, builders, etc who never need to waste a day in higher education courses.

    While Zion's may want IT workers, they may have to pay the going rate for those skills.

    For "students" who want to become "workers" (and sadly not all students want to work in real jobs) they need to stop wasting time and money on basket weaving and feminist study courses. And realize that entry level jobs come with entry level pay and you have to perform well and earn raises, they are not entitlements.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    He could find skilled workers here. They just cost more than immigrant labor does.

  • dUUi Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:35 a.m.

    One good solution would be to eliminate the SJW and "Identity politics" majors at universities. We should not be funding political indoctrination at public universities.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:22 a.m.

    Why Mr. Simmons -- who is not primarily in the STEM business per se?

    Answer: Because he and his associates have a vested interest in avoiding paying an American a fair wage -- regardless of right and wrong and the various social costs.


    You are correct about everything, except Trump. You are overlooking the many well-paid Americans he employs.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:21 a.m.

    Utah has lots of jobs, but mostly fast food.
    Not a lot of brainy talent around here...not enough, anyway.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:03 a.m.

    Total baloney. This country is flush with IT talent. Zions Bank is just trying to hire people on the cheap. This is the same song and dance we've heard for decades.

  • Samson01 S. Jordan, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:51 a.m.

    Many years ago I was in the jobs market. Applying at Zions was a nightmare and I finally walked away from the process. There were other employers who had a much more "user friendly" process.

    If Mr. Simmons can't find people, I think his first stop should be his recruiting folks office. They are driving the good talent away.

    That being said, I think, like others, that this is just a play to get the cheaper talent while trying to avoid any negative press.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:49 a.m.

    Sorry, this story is complete garbage. You can find all the cyber security skills you need in Utah - this guy just wants cheaper labor.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:44 a.m.

    Denverite - Centennial, CO
    When my father-in-law graduated from the U in 1966 in electrical engineering, he got a job with General Electric and was almost immediately sent to their HQ for training.

    Those days where mega corporations would take in new grads, train them in the Company Way, and essentially keep the employee for the duration of their career.

    The current mode of operation is to expect that an employee will be moving on in 3 years of their first hire out of college, and depending, may settle down at some mid or upper level management after about 10 years past college.

    From a brief review of the US Ed government statistics the dominant type of degree for under grads is 'business', followed by health services, social services, and eventually STEM degrees.

    Perhaps it does take a 'rocket scientist' to figure out that if colleges are graduating 'business' people, in far greater numbers than the 'technical' majors... there is going to be a lack of 'technical' workers, since the expectation is that the business grad will be managing the business, and by extension, the technical people.

    This produces a top heavy condition, where neither group finds work.

  • mightymite , 00
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:40 a.m.

    This is about money. No more outsourcing to India. If Zions goes this way I hope people show the displeasure with thier pocket book.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    He could hire the employees "disrupted" by his colleague A Scott Anderson's disastrous reorganization of Intermountain Healthcare.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    There is a constant complaint about lack of 'skilled' labor in the modern world. There is also a complaint about H1B visa holder edging out those in the US with lower wages.

    One element of the situation on the H1B holders, say India, a popular source of technically skilled labor, are the beneficiaries of a 'free' college education. Of course it's not 'free', but is paid by state and national tax.

    A quick search yields that the cost to a student for attending a stage college in India, may cost a low $50 to the student.

    Does Utah have a $50 per year fee for all qualified students? With state institutions for post high school education reaching in to the 10s of thousands, and private schools even more, it is no wonder there are more available skilled workers from 'elsewhere', than locally provided.

    The penny pinchers at the State and Federal levels have given the tax payer a marginal reduction, at the expense of providing competitive educational possibilities with the world.

  • AlanSutton Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:27 a.m.

    The problem with this article is its lack of specificity.

    What, exactly, is the CEO of ZionsBank talking about when he says that in Utah he finds a "dearth of highly skilled, educated workers." I can't imagine any skill sets he can't find in Utah or in the USA in general. I'm left with the impression that what he is really trying say is that his bank can't find highly skilled, educated workers who are willing to work for the peanuts his bank is offering to pay.

    The author of this article has done us a disfavor by failing to tell us exactly what types of occupations this CEO is talking about.

  • Rubydo Provo, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:25 a.m.

    It’s just that the ZIONS ceo can’t find skilled workers here in the US willing to work for peanuts or that the pool of potential employees that are grown on US college campuses are only fit for social justice causes who just aren’t that intelligent.

  • tqseal Liberal Central (Sugarhouse), UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:03 a.m.

    Well, this is another observation that degrees like Lesbian Dance Theory don't pay the bills. Kids and teens need guidance on what the economy needs as they make these important decisions.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:54 a.m.

    As a business owner with over 130 employees, I simply don't think this article is accurate. This claim is decades old and the majority imbibe it wholesale. I believe the problems lies in executives not knowing how to train already smart/skilled employees and articulate exactly what the company needs. For every company, the specific skill that is needed is different. Period.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    RE: "Utah has desperate need for highly educated, skilled workers"...
    The problem is, "highly educated" and "highly skilled" workers, are "Highly PAID workers.

    Employers don't mind paying a lot when they are in the startup or development phase of the business. But they tire of paying a lot for skilled workers when they have their product and the focus changes to selling it and maintaining it (which doesn't take as many highly skilled workers). That's why it's so cyclical. Most companies hire a lot of highly skilled workers when they need them, then let them go when they don't.

    Some companies always need highly skilled people. Finding these companies which are not the most flashy or highest paying companies, but more stability) is the key for people who want a long career, not a few years of high pay followed by layoffs.

    The other problem is H1B recruits eventually replacing the highly paid Americans with cheaper skilled workers from overseas. Where earning half what a highly skilled American earns is more than double what they can earn at home. Eventually every smart company figures this out, and uses H1B visas to remain competitive.

  • twinkleberry67 Layton, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:49 a.m.

    There are a lot of people out there who have disabilities who have the advanced education and skills to do these jobs and do them well. The problem is, they are never given a chance before being dismissed as useless by prospective employers. Many of these places have numerous ways of getting around the ADA by being picky about only hiring the ones who need little or no accommodations to do the job and they take full advantage of this legal loophole. The blind are especially hit hard by this. Just for the blind to gain the opportunity to show how adaptive skills will allow the job to be done and have this taken seriously is an insurmountable process at best. A lot of these people are veterans or people who have valueable life experience that most employers consider to be in hot demand and this is counted for nothing because of dissability. Now companies are recruiting in India because they think there is no one here to fill their jobs? What is this world coming to?

  • jklongstaff Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:38 a.m.

    This is ironic. I am a high-skilled STEM graduate and I've been struggling to find a job for about 8 months. I know how to program in Python, I know statistics, and I am skilled in math.

    I think the other issue is that Utah companies don't know what they are looking for. A lot of companies want to hire skilled workers, but there really isn't a need for the high skills they think they have.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:26 a.m.

    @Rural. Great idea. You're right, the elementary school teachers, 3rd grade and up, are so busy teaching toward the tests. With 30+ students in a class and no aide, it would be impossible to do some of the STEM curriculum.

    And we haven't even addressed the behavioral issues, which account for a great deal of my daughter's teaching headaches. With five, hard-to-control resource boys in one class a few years (plus the other 26 students and no aide), she almost lost her mind. These kids come to school with a lot of baggage and the parents and district expect the near-impossible to be accomplished. Much of the blame is on the parents who allow too much screen time (TV and video games), require few family responsibilities, and simply aren't emotionally or educationally available for their children. Throw in marital issues, divorce, and weekend house switching for shared custody and you've got kids who have to cope with a lot.

    Who do "they" expect to fix all of this that should have nothing to do with a child's classroom experience? It's the elementary classroom teacher!!!! Go figure...

  • Rebekeh Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:24 a.m.

    It would help significantly if businesses were invested in training their employees.

  • tryingtosmile salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:23 a.m.

    It is interesting to see 2 different write up today. One saying we need the people and another saying Utah doesn't pay the people. 30th in the country. If you read the Building Salt Lake website their post is about how stingy the companies are here. You are right the visas are too easy to get. That way the profits are high. Trump is the same way he brings in workers instead of paying the salary. Oh but wait the corporations got this big tax cut so they could spread the wealth among their workers. You know hire more americans. How many come over on these visas and NEVER leave??? They are a temporary visa and that is how not all illegal people are from South America.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 9:15 a.m.

    This "Shortage Shouting" as I call it has been going on for decades. Even in 2000, and in 2008 when massive layoffs in the technology industry occurred, employers complained they just couldn't find workers.

    I am a technology worker and I was laid off recently. While I found work rather quickly, I still had to send out dozens of resumes - all of which but only a few were ignored. Also, I had a few interviews in which I was well-qualified, only to be given a rejection because of a minor discrepancy in a skill.

    Many employers are being hyper-picky about the skills they are seeking. When they do so, they overlook many very qualified people, and then complain to politicians that they really can't find qualified workers.

  • Denverite Centennial, CO
    Aug. 7, 2018 7:54 a.m.

    When my father-in-law graduated from the U in 1966 in electrical engineering, he got a job with General Electric and was almost immediately sent to their HQ for training.

    So even back then, colleges weren't cutting it for career prep--and, companies understood they'd have to train people to compensate for what colleges were not doing.

    The first part of that (colleges) hasn't changed; colleges still teach baloney that doesn't help you get a job. But somewhere, companies have gotten the idea that they shouldn't have to train workers in anything; "if they don't know it already, why should we pay to teach them?" The affordability of that depends on a company's size, but as in the article's example, if you've got $33 million worth of work you might get with a few more trained people, then you're big enough to spend some money training people.

    And the whole salary issue in Utah, as previously mentioned, doesn't help that, either.

  • rural citizen Vernal, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 7:34 a.m.

    In order to meet this challenge, I believe we need to start providing STEM education in elementary schools. The challenge of course, is there is already too much on elementary teachers' plates. There is still to much pressure to meet state testing standards in Math and English, so other topics may not get time and attention. Perhaps we need more integrated curriculum or project based curriculum that can incorporate English along with STEM concepts in hands on and engaging curriculum. It exists and the State board sees the need to start in elementary schools, but change is slow in education.

  • techy4 Saratoga Springs, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 6:32 a.m.

    Harris Simmons, chairman of the State Board of Regents, said he plans to travel to India later this month "to find skill sets we just can't find here."

    Translation: We don't want to pay what the market demands for the skill sets we need, so we'll pretend they can only be found in cheaper labor markets.

    H1B visas are for oversea workers to fill jobs that aren't filled by Americans, but tech companies OFTEN post an unrealistic (or impossible) job listing (like 8years experience with a tech that is only 2 years old), then pretend it can only be filled by Indian workers who cost 1/5-1/3 as much on an H1B visa, or 1/20 if they work in India.

    If only one in 10 workers hired in India are worth anything, but they only cost 1/20 of what the market demands in the US, the company makes out like bandits.

    I see it all the time. The big tech companies are the worst. They're driving a narrative that Americans can't do the jobs they need, but really its they don't want to pay what skilled Americans demand. That's why they want everyone and their dog to learn to program. It has nothing to do with helping workers and everything to do with keeping wages low

  • Full Sunset, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 6:31 a.m.

    I still hear about recent college graduates struggling to find jobs because they lack experience. I think some of these companies would be better served by bringing in some of these young workers and training them and teaching them and then paying them as they gain more skills. However, that doesn’t match with the corporate culture where layoffs are common. Maybe people would be inclined not to jump at the next opportunity if they had not seen layoffs any time there is a new CEO or a recession. They clamor over these highly skilled employees now, but these same highly skilled employees are on the chopping block as soon as they are replaceable.

  • formerutahn-1 Saline, MI
    Aug. 7, 2018 5:13 a.m.

    Shaun is absolutely correct. I am formerutahn because 20 years ago after having worked as an engineer in a highly technical field, the company I worked for closed. I got several offers for jobs in Utah, but at half the salary I was offered elsewhere. And "elsewhere" isn't California where the cost of living is nuts. It seems that businesses in Utah have the mindset that the quality of life is so fantastic in Utah that they can pay very low salaries. This article says nothing about the salary issue.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 2:37 a.m.

    I don't buy it. Nor have I bought this excuse in the past. The H-1b visa is so attractive that many of my friends in STEM fields have been replaced by them. As a condition of receiving severance pay they had to train their replacements.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:03 a.m.

    Ah, perhaps the parents could help out if the students are having a hard time negotiating the road map of life. We do need more skilled workers, that's for sure.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Aug. 6, 2018 11:04 p.m.

    How much impact does the high cost of housing, along with suppressed earnings, have upon retaining and maintaining a skilled work force?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Aug. 6, 2018 10:31 p.m.

    If capitalism is what these businesses believe in then they need pay to attract talent to their business.