Utah football: Kyle Whittingham says Tyler Huntley is better in all areas

Return To Article
Add a comment
  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 10:40 p.m.

    NV:
    "If Rivals is #1, why are citing 247? Perhaps you ought to look at getting your tuition money back "lil bro"."

    If you know anything about recruiting, the reason the 247 composite is considered the most accurate is because it includes all the major recruiting services, including Rivals. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse. Go to any major P5 program's recruiting boards and you'll see that people are going to the composite more than any recruiting source right now, specifically because it's algorithm is more comprehensive.

    There IS evidence they've become more trusted than other services. There's this from Sports Business Daily- "In May 2013, 247Sports reached a long-term agreement to become the official online selection partner of the U.S. Army All-American Bowl and the U.S. Army National Combine, replacing its competitor Rivals". So obviously, the U.S. All-American Bowl (the most prestigious HS All American game) and National Combine trust them more than Rivals.

    It's Research Methods 101. Multiple sources + greater sample size = more accurate information that can be generalized across the population. And if YOU did your research you'd already know all this. Case closed.

  • Daddyute Saratoga Springs, UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    Since 2001 byU has beaten Utah 3 time, but ya, the programs are on par with each other.
    byU has a storied past, just as Army does, that is your peer in CFB, not Notre Dame
    Would U trade your past for Utah's future? With Holmoe as AD U have no future.
    Best of luck on the season.
    8 is coming

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 10, 2018 12:35 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    "Apparently you learned how to do research at the U as well? Don't quote one source as representative of a general consensus...According to the 247 composite (you know the source most schools/experts use because it is a COMPOSITE of all the major recruiting services, not just the one you choose to fit your bias)..."

    There is no evidence that most schools/experts use 247 as the basis of their recruiting selectivity. On the flip side, there IS evidence that they use Rivals however, on account of them having been independently ranked as the "most accurate" of all recruit rating sources. And Rivals ranked Utah's recruiting classes as superior to the Y's in 8 out of the 9 seasons from 2002-10.

    Edge: Utah
    Edge: Rivals

    If Rivals is #1, why are citing 247? Perhaps YOU ought to look at getting your tuition money back "lil bro". Typical hypocritical coug.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 10:12 a.m.

    Jackie Treehorn:
    "And not a single red cent of your tax money goes to UU athletics. It's a common joke each side likes to throw out at the other because of what organization backs the school."

    Nope. It's called annual State Auditor's report and it's public knowledge. The latest report shows the UofU athletics using approximately 17% of revenue from state subsidy, which amounts to a little more than 9 million dollars (taxpayer dollars).

    The LDS church's annual report emphasizes that no tithes are allotted to BYU athletics or extracurricular clubs/organizations.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 7:31 a.m.

    Cougdawg: "Not a single red cent of your tithing money goes to BYU athletics."

    And not a single red cent of your tax money goes to UU athletics. It's a common joke each side likes to throw out at the other because of what organization backs the school.

  • AltabirdG Sugarhouse, UT
    Aug. 10, 2018 1:48 a.m.

    Tyler Huntley is a special player, I hope he stays healthy for the season.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 9, 2018 1:53 p.m.

    Vegas:

    "I don't feel bad about not being supportive of byu with my tithing money going down there and all."

    Not a single red cent of your tithing money goes to BYU athletics. This has always been the case, so why would you feel bad about not supporting them? So, not the same thing at all. What was your point again?

    U have fun this season as well!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 9, 2018 1:42 p.m.

    NV:

    "Not so little bro! You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you....Recruit rating sources weren’t a thing until 2002, so you don’t really KNOW who’d out-recruited whom prior to that."

    Apparently you learned how to do research at the U as well? Don't quote one source as representative of a general consensus. I'd look at getting your tuition money back "lil bro".

    According to the 247 composite (you know the source most schools/experts use because it is a COMPOSITE of all the major recruiting services, not just the one you choose to fit your bias):

    02- BYU-37, U- 97 (ouch)
    03- Y- 61, U- 75
    04- Y- 51, U- 61
    05- Y- 61, U- 57 (congrats)
    06- Y- 65, U- 56 (congrats again)
    07- Y- 43, U- 62
    08- Y- 45, U- 61
    09- Y- 55, U- 46 (and a 3rd)
    10-Y- 33, U- 42

    So, using collective and comprehensive data (you know what real research requires), U beat BYU in recruiting 3 times out of 9.

    And you said: "And I know this to be true because – unlike you – I actually “research” the facts, rather than just simply making them up."

    Lol, again, how embarrassing for you. Now run along and talk to the UofU cashier's office about that refund they owe you.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 9, 2018 1:01 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs:

    "You're welcome my friend. We figure since our taxes goes to help supplement U, we should at least be supportive."

    I don't feel bad about not being supportive of byu with my tithing money going down there and all.

    Have fun this season!

    Go Utes!

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2018 12:23 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs: “Before Utah went to the PAC12, BYU consistently out-recruited them...”

    navel lint: “Recruit rating sources weren’t a thing until 2002, so you don’t really KNOW who’d out-recruited whom prior to that.”

    Despite your frantic and emotional spin, it’s quite obvious which team was more talented just prior to Utah being invited to join the PAC 12:

    2006 to 2009

    head-to-head
    BYU 3, Utah 1

    MWC Championships
    BYU 2, Utah 1

    AP Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 4, Utah 2

    11+ Win Seasons
    BYU 3, Utah 1

    Utah’s Sugar Bowl MVP QB wasn’t even good enough to make an NFL practice team.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Aug. 9, 2018 10:48 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    “Before Utah went to the PAC12, BYU consistently out-recruited them…Would BYU be recruiting better than U if they were in the PAC12? History says probably would, considering they usually did when on an equal playing field.”

    Not so little bro! You just made that up. How frantic and emotional of you.

    Recruit rating sources weren’t a thing until 2002, so you don’t really KNOW who’d out-recruited whom prior to that. However, per Rivals, in the 9-yr span between 2002 (the first season recruit ranking services existed) thru 2010 (the Utes’ and cougs’ last season in the same league together), the cougars out-recruited the Utes only ONCE! Back in 2007. But in the other 8 seasons, Utah pulled down the top class in the state. And that means that it had been the Utes who’d been “consistently out-recruit[ing]” the cougars, and not the other way around. Ergo, if the Y were in the Pac-12, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they’d be out-recruiting us now. And I know this to be true because – unlike you – I actually “research” the facts, rather than just simply making them up.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 2:25 p.m.

    Vegas:
    "A big thank you to all byu fans for making Utah athletics such an important part of your lives."

    You're welcome my friend. We figure since our taxes goes to help supplement U, we should at least be supportive.

    And I agree, U are the best in the state, and so is Huntley. Congratulations.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 1:39 p.m.

    Wally:

    Before Utah went to the PAC12, BYU consistently out-recruited them. Welcome to the P5 and recruiting benefits that follow, which is exactly why comparing BYU and Utah's recruiting is an apples to oranges argument today. Would BYU be recruiting better than U if they were in the PAC12? History says probably would, considering they usually did when on an equal playing field.

    All that said, your recruiting isn't anything to write home about. U take forever to sign classes because the guys you want are waiting for other schools to give them the thumbs up or thumbs down as signing day nears, and U take the scraps. If you knew anything about recruiting you understand that to be a fact. U have THREE commitments right now, none of which are even 4 star (247 composite)...that is laughable for a P5 program that's anywhere near contention for anything that matters.

    BYU's accomplishments aren't going away just because they don't have coattails to ride like U. It's tough sledding for them...some of which has been self-inflicted admittedly. Is what it is, but where's your hardware after 7 seasons? I wouldn't bag on BYU's accomplishments when your trophy case is so bare.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 1:06 p.m.

    Phoenix:

    “There are a myriad of factors involved in recruiting, only one of which is a program’s legacy.”

    Tell us how those “myriad of factors” are working out then? Clearly state how things have only gotten better since going independent. Can’t wait to hear this.

    But I know you don’t have a legitimate clear answer, except for your ‘straw man arguments’.

    Have a great rest of your day.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 8, 2018 1:01 p.m.

    Here come the kitties crawling out of the woodwork for yet another Utah article. Lol.

    To set the record straight, for all those posting:

    - Huntley will not win the 2018 Heisman
    - UoU 1991 is a byu fan/Utah hater (the line is very thin there)
    - byu did win some impressive hardware when I was in my 20s (I'm pushing 60)
    - Huntley is by far the best QB in the state - hands down
    - Utah is the premier football team in the state - hands down - this year, decade and century
    - 8 is coming

    A big thank you to all byu fans for making Utah athletics such an important part of your lives.

    Go Huntley!

    It's always a great day to be a Ute!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 8, 2018 11:57 a.m.

    All

    As much as I would like to respond and engage in "civil dialogue" the moderator won't allow it. Have a great day.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 8, 2018 11:49 a.m.

    re Riddles: "Call us when Utah wins their first National Championship or Heisman Trophy."

    re tinkerbell: “You're going to get your "call" the last game of the season.”

    So you’re claiming that Utah is going to lock up a Heisman or Natty by beating BYU the last game of the season?

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 8, 2018 10:47 a.m.

    Wallbanger

    “So again...how is it benefiting the program in 2018? Recruits certainly aren’t impressed, when your most recent recruiting class is at #94!”

    There are a myriad of factors involved in recruiting, only one of which is a program’s legacy.

    Claiming that a certain recruiting class was sub par because a program’s “legacy” has passed it’s “expiration date” shows how clueless U are about all of the dynamics involved in recruiting.

  • Stringer Bell Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 10:40 a.m.

    Riddles: "Call us when Utah wins their first National Championship or Heisman Trophy."

    You're going to get your "call" the last game of the season. Meanwhile, get excited for your big revenge game against UMass and try to stay out of the National Bottom 10. That's what you've got going for you this century.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    Aug. 8, 2018 10:21 a.m.

    Wallbanger

    “Still waiting on our many Coug friends, especially the one with it’s many monikers from “Olympus Cove”to tell me what all those “accomplishments” have do TODAY for BYU”

    BYU’s football accomplishments of yesteryear are just as relevant today as Utah’s basketball accomplishments of yesteryear.

    It’s absolutely hysterical how Utah fans talk about Utah’s Final Fours of the 40’s, 60’s and 90’s as if they happened yesterday, but whine about BYU’s football accomplishments of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s as being irrelevant today.

    BYU fans will stop talking about BYU’s National Championship and Heisman Trophy winner as soon as Utah fans stop talking abouts Utah’s Final Fours.

    btw, BYU has had more 11+ win, Top 15 seasons since 2006, than Utah has had in their entire history.

    If BYU’s 11-2, #12/#12 finish in 2009 is no longer relevant TODAY, why do Utah fans continue to “count” 2008?

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 8:43 a.m.

    Still waiting on our many coug friends, especially the one with it’s many monikers from “Olympus Cove”to tell me what all those “accomplishments” have do TODAY for byu? Try not to resort to your usual straw man.

    So again...how is it benefiting the program in 2018? Recruits certainly aren’t impressed, when your most recent recruiting class is at #94!

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    Aug. 8, 2018 8:13 a.m.

    Wallbanger

    “that list of ancient accolades impresses absolutely no one”

    It certainly proves why Utah fans like to pretend that nothing before 2004 “counts” in college football, since Utah’s first century of football was completely bereft of any accomplishments worth talking about.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    headbanger

    re: “I hate to break it to you Marky Mark, but that list of ancient accolades impresses absolutely no one.”

    Yet, it’s far more impressive than the list of accolades the little red engine that couldn’t has produced...

    and, before you go there,

    it proves that Utah’s golden ticket to the PAC 12 had absolutely nothing to do with accomplishments on the football field.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 8, 2018 5:08 a.m.

    “The vast difference between BYU and Utah is BYU actually actually accomplished something in their first century of football worth talking about.”

    I hate to break it to you Marky Mark, but that list of ancient accolades impresses absolutely no one. And even more, the only people that keep “talking about it”, are inside the Provo Bubble. You copy and paste the same thing over and over again. I guess the P5s aren’t talking about it. Beacause all those “accomplishments” are doing what for your cougs today? As in 2018. What have the mighty cougs done since going Indy? Or even the past quarter century worth talking about?

    **crickets**

    It’s the vast difference of the reality of today, and clinging to the ancient past pretending its somehow benefiting or relevant today.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:03 p.m.

    SpokaneUte

    “BYU fans live in the past, the far, far distant past. Call us on your cell phone when you beat us.”

    The last time BYU beat a Top 20 ranked Utah team:

    2009 - #12 BYU over #18 Utah

    The last time Utah beat a Top 20 ranked BYU team:

    1994 - #8/#10 Utah over #10/#18 BYU

    The last time BYU and Utah had

    Back-to-back 11+ win, Top 15, conference championship winning seasons:

    BYU 2006 and 2007
    Utah never

    Four straight AP Top 25 Finishes:

    BYU 2006 to 2009
    Utah never

    U see, BYU has recent accomplishments that Utah has never achieved, which is why Utah fans don’t even want to talk about them.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:46 p.m.

    SpokaneUte

    The vast difference between BYU and Utah is BYU actually actually accomplished something in their first century of football worth talking about.

    First Century of Football
    BYU 1922 - Present
    Utah 1892 - 1993

    National Championships
    BYU 1, Utah 0

    Heisman Trophies
    BYU 1, Utah 0

    National HOF Players
    BYU 6, Utah 0

    AP Top 25 Finishes
    BYU 17, Utah 0

    11+ Win Seasons
    BYU 11, Utah 0

    10+ Win Seasons
    BYU 16, Utah 0

    9+ Win Seasons
    BYU 24, Utah 1

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 7:08 p.m.

    JohnInSLC:

    'Confused in the dark', is also "fashion police" and "Snack WAC". They like to have multiple monikers to hide behind, as well as monikers that pretend to mock or be "Utah fans". It's a reflection of where their program is and where it's headed.

    As for Huntley, if he stays healthy, watch out PAC 12! Just over three weeks away now.
    Go Utes!!!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 7, 2018 4:31 p.m.

    Walking in the Dark - Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:38 a.m.

    tinkerbell

    The vast difference between BYU and Utah fans’ boisterous claims...

    BYU fans’ claims have actually happened.

    Call us when Utah wins their first National Championship or Heisman Trophy.
    ---------
    No one called when BYU won these; they simply rode their horse down to the telegraph office. The vast difference between BYU and Utah fans is BYU fans live in the past, the far, far distant past. Call us on your cell phone when you beat us.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 1:41 p.m.

    "The football team's academic misconduct is well known"

    Found yet ANOTHER screen name, eh?

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 12:18 p.m.

    Huntley is Utah’s best QB since Alex Smith, but probably not good enough to lead Utah to a division championship.

  • CO Ute Chandler, AZ
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:55 a.m.

    From a real U fan, I hope to see Huntley make all conference this year. Even an honorable mention would be an accomplishment because of the talented QBs at UW, UA, and UO plus veterans at ASU and Colorado.

    Stay heathly and learn to throw the ball away when appropriate.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:45 a.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:46 a.m.

    Pac-12 Champions - the Utah Utes. Mark it down.
    --------
    I hope you are right; heck everyone is undefeated right now!

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:38 a.m.

    tinkerbell

    The vast difference between BYU and Utah fans’ boisterous claims...

    BYU fans’ claims have actually happened.

    Call us when Utah wins their first National Championship or Heisman Trophy.

  • Stringer Bell Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2018 11:17 a.m.

    UofU: "Huntley is certain to be Utah’s first Heisman Trophy winner."

    BYU-P fans not only make boisterous predictions for their team, but also for others. However, in reality, as previously mentioned, Utah's fourth string QB is probably better than anything you have down in Provo. Enjoy Tanner Mangum, expecting a different outcome.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:46 a.m.

    Pac-12 Champions - the Utah Utes. Mark it down.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Aug. 7, 2018 10:36 a.m.

    Scott Mitchell is a very smart choice for color commentary. I've listened to him and he's pretty sharp and brings up good points.

  • SIMPLICITY Denver, CO
    Aug. 6, 2018 10:11 p.m.

    While Huntley is not going to be the Heisman winner, he is certainly the best QB in the state of Utah.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 6, 2018 7:31 p.m.

    "Huntley is certain to be Utah’s first Heisman Trophy winner."

    (faux)UofU:

    Didn't your screen name used to be Taysom-for-Heisman?

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Aug. 6, 2018 7:18 p.m.

    Huntley is certain to be Utah’s first Heisman Trophy winner.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 6, 2018 5:03 p.m.

    Why not say who's #2?

    Thankfully, we finally 3 legit P12 QBs.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 6, 2018 4:54 p.m.

    We very easily have the top 3 QBs in the state, & our 4th stringer would give any other in-state starter a run for his money & most likely beat him out.

    Go Utes!

  • tqseal Liberal Central (Sugarhouse), UT
    Aug. 6, 2018 3:38 p.m.

    I guess I'll pray day and night that Huntley doesn't get injured this season.