But city officials vote to schedule special election just in case
I do not think the people of Holladay United will be happy with anything the
developer would put where the The Cottonwood Mall use to be unless it is a park
. Even though this has been hashed over for years and years thousands of
times, and even though numerous meetings have taken place and the developer was
willing to lessen the height of the buildings and the density. There will
always be people who find something wrong. I guess this will just remain a weed
patch and a dump with remnants of dilapidated buildings like the old Z. C. M. I.
Building, which we will have to look at everyday and is unsafe for our children
to play in. Then after the developers have lost there money and pull out
no one else will want take a chance on this place because they don’t want
to go through this scrutiny with people who are never satisfied.The city
will have to waste money on patrolling this dump and spraying for insects
instead of collecting needed tax monies.There will always be something to
complain about no matter what developers come up with, so the truth is we will
have look at this mess for years to come as we drive by each morning.
The way that Holladay's zoning is written will make this case unique. The
city council did not formally change the zoning. However, the entire zone is
defined by the plan that they approved. The height, the density, the allowed
uses, and all other aspects were defined by the vote in question. I suspect that
the court will recognize that this vote was a de facto legislative decision.
Then again, this is Utah...
Driving past the Cottonwood Mall property I see signs from Ivory/Woodbury
highlighting “8 Restaurants” and “20-30 retail
spaces”. Conveniently absent is any sign mentioning the 1,000
new residences. For good reason. Ivory knows most people in Holladay
don’t want them.Highland Drive is a four-lane highway with NO
TURNING LANE. Murray Holladay Road is only a two-lane road. How will people
navigate those roads with 1,000 additional cars?The Holladay city
council has sold out to Ivory. And Ivory has shown they could care less about
the citizens of Holladay. Ivory is only interested in money –
Developers run the cities; isn't that obvious? Citizens only pay taxes.
The pictured purposed development looks nice and well thought out to me..what is
the alternative? keeping the vacant 57 areas of weeds and that once Macy store
I’ve lived in Holladay most of my life. Most of my neighbors didn’t
sign the petition and don't want another halt to progress over this
property. We have already voted — for a capable city council, which has
worked on this difficult problem for decades now. They’ve done the job we
elected them to do, and have done it with integrity. Holladay citizens are
begging the vocal minority demanding this referendum to please back off and let
the work move forward.
Water rocket, it isn't "some malcontents" who oppose the project,
it's the majority of Holladay. In 6 weeks, almost 8,000 registered voters
signed petitions because they want to vote. Let's be honest, they
didn't sign because they wanted to vote "YES" for a giant apartment
complex. I volunteered a lot of time and talked to hundreds of people. I rarely
met anyone who wants this project. Actually, I don't think I met a single
person who wants this project that didn't have some personal tie to the
development. Furthermore, the city council and mayor bypassed the
planning commission. You know, the time honored process of allowing experts in
city planning to do their job? So yes, they did it wrong.
The development is still much too dense. Of course residents overwhelmingly
oppose it. Government leaders rarely represent the people--especially against
such nice people as developers; they just aren't built for it. It's
great to see people represent and defend themselves against abject abuse.
So "magicburro" are you saying that when the city followed the time
honored LEGAL process for approving this development, they did wrong? Or are
you saying that the land owners, who followed all the rules, spent untold sums
of money, and tried to address all the best interests of the citizens, while
considering their own right to create jobs, provide both housing and shopping,
and of course, the hope of generating a profit from all their investment should
be ignored because there are some malcontents who oppose change, now that they
have what they want?As for your conclusion that the courts would
side with the petitioners, I find that highly speculative and irresponsible.
Where I to guess (and that is exactly the same thing you are doing) I would
think that the courts would agree with the city, and the money these unhappy
people will have spent will be wasted, along with a lot of tax payer money in
city and court costs.
The article states that the ballot initiative failed? Not true. They got almost
8,000 signatures--well over the requisite amount. The city has scheduled a
special election. As the city attorney mentioned, this will require a final
determination by the courts. It is doubtful that the city attorney
and the developers' attorneys would put money on winning in court. They
should know that they'll end up on the wrong side of the court's
decision. So, the initiative didn't fail, it was just forced to
take another step. The city government is ignoring the voice of the people (as
it did during the process to approve the Ivory/Woodbury plan), and now more tax
dollars will be wasted in court. Once the court rules that the city's
decisions can, in fact, be challenged by a referendum, it will go to a vote.
When that happens, a landslide victory will clearly show that Holladay citizens
didn't want this project. So no, the initiative didn't
fail. However, the city clearly failed to listen to the people that they
represent. Or worse, they listened to them but ignored them. Either way, they
failed to properly represent the people that put them in office.