Orrin Hatch says he's told Trump not to call press 'enemy of the people'

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  • Liberal Existing on Planet Zion Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 3, 2018 11:09 a.m.

    fight4liberty-
    “Trump has never stated he supported either group, and that is what enflamed the left wing media to spin that trump supports white supremacist groups which is blantantly false..”

    Another nauseating attempt at defending the indefensible. As previously stated. Apparently “said poster” has been so comfortable with the “deplorable” behavior from the president and his base that they are unaware the previous mentioned comment provided can be verified by simply reading the Newsweek article cited! Again. The remark was embraced by white supremacists David Duke and Richard Spencer! White supremacists, Andrew Anglin called Trump’s words “encouraging” and “refreshing”! Trump finally bowed to the growing political pressure to condemn the hate groups involved in the violence two days after the rally. Furthermore. Facts are neo-Nazis started the violence. They showed up in Charlottesville. Putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane is an epic failure! What’s the excuse for Trump’s comments regarding “Mexicans”? His eloquent description of certain countries? Your thoughts? Without the HRC/Obama/Benghazi siren calls of deflection.

  • fight4liberty Herriman, UT
    Aug. 2, 2018 10:19 a.m.

    Lib

    Said posters retorts point out definite facts about the white supremacist groups poor behavior and supporting trump which is bad, these group that support trump does not mean trump supports them.

    However, said poster is still not addressing the poor behavior of antifa and blm. Trump publically stated that he took his time to absorb the facts and events of that day in charlottesville and then came to the conclusion that all parties contributed to the violence, hence his words "condemn....many sides."

    Trump has never stated he supported either group, and that is what enflamed the left wing media to spin that trump supports white supremacist groups which is blantantly false, trump clearly said nothing of the sort but that is what the media wants us to believe.

    The media deserves the criticism it is recieving.

  • eldonp Parowan, UT
    Aug. 2, 2018 10:14 a.m.

    It's better to see Sen. Hatch seeming to stand up to the Prez rather than the appalling sychophancy we observed over the dismemberment of Bears Ears and halving of GSENM. The advice, however, will be wasted: as effective as explaining to one's house cat the difference between Joseph Goebbels and gaslighting. Trump is proud of being his own best advisor.

    In reading other comments, though, it's clear that "whataboutism" and fantastic coincidences rule one side of the debate, while the other side is desperately searching for a sane leader beyond the TV alarmist-soundbite realm. Hate, hyperbole, baseless claims, deception, chaos and 24-7 fear-mongering rules the discourse. The winner? Vladimir Putin, Comrades.

    If we just hate each other, then we take our eyes off the Bear, and look instead at the the shiny glittering ball.

  • Liberal Existing on Planet Zion Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2018 3:25 p.m.

    Sports-

    Rally was organized by right-wing blogger Jason Kessler to protest against the city's decision to remove a statue of Robert E Lee. Kessler had described the event as "pro-white" and said it was "about an anti-white climate within the Western world and the need for white people to have advocacy like other groups do". The white supremacists were met by an equal number of counter-protesters. A video posted on Twitter showed white supremacist marchers shouting "Heil Trump" and giving Nazi salutes as they walked past a counter-demonstration. Another video showed far-right demonstrators shouting "blood and soil", a slogan used by the Nazis! Apparently “said poster” has been so comfortable by the “deplorable” behavior from the president and his base they are unaware that the previous comment provided can be verified by reading the Newsweek article cited! Again. The remark was embraced by white supremacists David Duke and Richard Spencer! White supremacists, Andrew Anglin called Trump’s words “encouraging” and “refreshing”! Trump finally bowed to the growing political pressure to condemn the hate groups involved in the violence two days after the rally. {ABC/CBS/NBC/AP 8/15/17}

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    Aug. 1, 2018 10:59 a.m.

    Lib on planet scion

    Said poster: "trumps comment and vulgar description of particular countries is among several remarks he has made that have energized white supremacists"

    Yes Trump's comments regarding some countries are repugnant, he speaks with no filter and obviously is not a trained orator, nor is he a trained politician. For that I make no effort to defend.

    Just because a white supremacist group or individual that aspires to that kind of diplorable ideology does not prove or mean trump supports white supremacist groups, said poster is spining facts to appear as reality, trump clearly still never said he supports white supremacist's in said posters rationalised example.

    The sophistry of the left is not fooling anyone, and neither does said posters retort, so please stay on topic of the article.

    The fact is the msm spins fake news, as an example again regarding the charlottesville riots trump said "we in the strongest possible terms condemn the violence and bigotry on many sides". Where in that did he say he supports white supremacists?

    All 3 groups in that event contributed to the violence, which is fact and the reality.

    The msm desserves the criticism it recieves.

  • Lib Survival on Planet Utah SLC, UT
    Aug. 1, 2018 12:29 a.m.

    Sports-
    “msm claimed trump sided with the white supremicist to claim he did is pure spin and fake propaganda”.

    Facts and reality update. Screaming “fake news” will not alter factual information regardless what’s stated on Faux State Television!

    “Trump’s comment and vulgar description of particular countries is among several remarks he has made that have energized white supremacists, rights groups fear. The remark was embraced by white supremacists David Duke and Richard Spencer. The director of the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, Oren Segal, told Newsweek that Trump’s remarks are “the engine that fuels white supremacy” in America. You have white supremacists like Andrew Anglin calling Trump’s words “encouraging and refreshing,” The S.P. Law Center noted in a 2016 report that “in the 10 days following the election of Trump, there were almost 900 reports of harassment and intimidation from across the nation.” Trump’s campaign “energized the radical right,” it said, helping to fuel a number of white nationalist rallies like the one held in Charlottesville, Virginia”. Furthermore Trump stated that there were “some very fine people on both sides”.
    {Newsweek 1/12/18}

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2018 11:53 p.m.

    Senator Hatch took an oath to defend the Constitution. Surely He would be true to his oath. However, apparently unable to discern the unconstitutional nature of The TPP, he tried to push it into law. Thankfully, President Trump put the kibosh on the TPP.

    Some news outlets are clearly publishing propaganda. One could surmise that they are an enemy of the people. Would a friend feed us lies?

    While President Trump may not always act presidential. For the most part I think that he is trying to do what is best for the Nation and the citizens. Considering the opposition to his efforts, he is doing a good job.

  • mightymite , 00
    July 31, 2018 10:30 p.m.

    Hatch just needs to retire and go out quiet. He is out of touch and double speaks when it suits him. His legacy is tainted with his dealings with trump.

  • robin138 springfield, VA
    July 31, 2018 10:00 p.m.

    As an Air Force officer, I greatly benefited from, and used what once was a printed Air Force pamphlet called "The Tongue And Quill" to improve my ability to communicate. It is probably still a pamphlet somewhere, but it is now an online document which everyone may look at on line by using your favorite search engine. I was going to recommend specific pages, but I just skim reread the thing, and it all good, and I mean all. But, I really recommend chapters 2-6 just to get an idea about judging the validity of communication (information) you have received and preparing your own valid communication (transmittal of information to others). It is a super guide to evaluating data and documenting data and I just cannot say enough how great it is. Enjoy!

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    July 31, 2018 9:46 p.m.

    Admittedly these institutions have many issues but the real negative legacy I think President Trump will leave is that his attack on both the press and the FBI, will undermine to a very, very great deal the American confidence in these institutions. With the former, we do need a press that is adversarial, that will investigate, that will be that fourth branch. Now we have a sea of social media fake news and misinformation where nobody (sane anyway) knows what to believe. It seems that even Fox News, at least some of its journalists, see that the president has gone too far. Again, it's not that the FBI and the press have issues or might have been out of line against the president (and in history) but the attempt to shake total confidence in these institutions will have heavy repercussions for our nation.

  • robin138 springfield, VA
    July 31, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    I read comments about "the mainstream media" destroying all the good things for which America stands and can only shake my head in amazement and in sadness.
    The mainstream media reported the truth about what was occurring in Vietnam, and America responded at the polls with that knowledge and the Vietnam War ended. My dad was an Army officer and he spoke with me, an Air Force officer, 15 years later about what a mistake that conflict was, and how worried he was that I might have been drafted and gone there to fight in battle. He was a senior officer when he was there, and endured not infrequent shellings of his base in Vietnam, and endured enemy fire hitting his chopper as he visited sites, but that would have been nothing to what I might have faced as a draftee.
    The mainstream media reported on Nixon's behavior and he had to leave office. This proved that even the President can be held accountable when there are misdeeds reported in the new.
    The mainstream media has reported on the war in SWA, including mistakes made by our government. My oldest son an Army medic who was wounded in Iraq and I agree: the light shown on everything and everyone will keep America great.

  • Astoria Jim Mamaroneck, NY
    July 31, 2018 9:13 p.m.

    Trump lost me when he singled out Katy Tur of NBC, who probably weighs 100 pounds, at one of his rallies in 2016, encouraging his followers to shake their fists at her. Maybe I'm too protective of women, but the idea of a 240...sorry, 239-pound, 70 year old bully inciting violence against a young woman just rubbed me the wrong way.
    And if you say that's just Trump's style, he was born and raised in Queens...well, I was also born and raised in Queens, and we learned to respect women. Ronald Reagan was often criticized, even vilified by the so-called mainstream liberal press, but he never egged his followers on to violence. But Ronald Reagan was, at base, a decent person and gentleman. Something Trump would not understand.

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    July 31, 2018 7:42 p.m.

    I am so proud of Senator Hatch. He has really stood up to the president on this issue. He makes me proud to be living in Utah and to be an American......or would that to be an Amerikanski?

  • Daedalus, Stephen ARVADA, CO
    July 31, 2018 5:05 p.m.

    Republicans and 'conservatives' control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives. A rare trifecta that allows a party to implement most of its policy platform.

    And what do Republicans -- the party famous for proclaiming the virtues of accountability and self-reliance -- do when they barely manage to enact a single law of significance (at least for the wealthy and the deficit)?

    Why, they play the victim!

    And what is this fearsome bully that is keeping down such a strong political party with such potent ideas?

    Correct: struggling businesses in a declining industry, facing imminent extinction due to market forces. Huh...my kids faced tougher 'enemies' in middle school.

    But do try to cheer up 'conservatives'.
    Let me know if you need a hug or warm honey milk ... you will find me over with the rest of America doubled-over with laughter.

  • Flyboy1 South Jordan, UT
    July 31, 2018 4:47 p.m.

    It just makes me wonder why some of my fellow readers insist on calling me, a patriotic, Red Blooded American Democrat and Veteran of 22+ years as a commissioned officer, an enemy of the state. I love this nation. I don't like the direction it's headed, and I certainly don't like what is taking place in the White House these days but I still love The United States of America. So why am I an enemy to the nation? Please enlighten me.

  • Dan Maloy Enid, OK
    July 31, 2018 2:37 p.m.

    When "everything", and I do mean "everything" if you catch my drift, is all over and the dust has settled, we will see in absolute clarity that starting from about the mid-1960s the mainstream media worked in collusion to push the liberal agenda on our countrymen. This will be seen without dispute. Knowledge, true or false, is power, and the media knows this. Over the last 50+ years they have helped to pervert our ideals, our values, our patriotism, our common sense and even our love for one another.

    Many on this forum here deny that but that does not change the truth one iota. Truth is simply the way things really are regardless of who or how many believe things to the contrary. As a nation we have become largely as a flock of sheep with no shepherd and there will be many on this forum who will offer profuse apoligies for their foolishness.

    I said this clearly but with civility. Will it be posted?

  • clarkfran Los Angeles, CA
    July 31, 2018 1:38 p.m.

    What's truly scary is that the liberal "tribe" seem to actually believe that their media mouthpieces are objective and really do offer verified and sourced "news". How convenient that they seem unaware of the almost daily retractions and constant use of un-named sources. I wholeheartedly agree that a part of this country is sinking. The notion that journalism should be objective and fact-based is what's sinking. By the way, the fact that someone is able to grasp the sad reality of ideology-driven "journalism" in this country doesn't make them a de facto Trump supporter. Try to look past your all-consuming hatred of this buffoon of a president. It might help you see things clearer.

  • WeThePeople Sandy, UT
    July 31, 2018 12:57 p.m.

    The so-called journalists are just envious of Trump's Success! They don't build big, beautiful buildings! They aren't interested in solving our Country's problems or making America Great Again.

    They don't even date supermodels!

    Trump is our Leader. He loves America, and America loves Him! If the lying leftist media journalists can't show that, they need to shut up!

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2018 12:24 p.m.

    This is unlike anything we have seen in the entire history of the presidency. Almost daily attacks on one of the most cherished institutions to safeguard democracy - a free press. Even Nixon only occasionally attacked the news media and mostly during the Watergate investigation. Trump should stop using Twitter for political purposes period! Policies, agenda, legislative and executive order proposals, political and personal attacks on politicians, and firings are done impulsively in the early morning on Twitter, without consultation of anyone in Congress, or any of his cabinet or advisors. This is not the way a democracy should work. G.W. Bush and Obama showed dignity, grace, restraint and class by not using social media for political policy (Twitter has been around since early 2006). Trump will go down in history as the "twitter-in-chief."

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    July 31, 2018 11:55 a.m.

    The New York Times should change its tag line to; Biased, Corrupt, Propaganda.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    July 31, 2018 10:58 a.m.

    I have found that most of the press is an enemy of our nation. Most members of the press are leftist and socialist, politically.

    They didn't suddenly become enemies of the state under Trump, they have been so for many decades!

  • joewillie12 Corpus Christi, TX
    July 31, 2018 10:48 a.m.

    He doesn't know what a cudgel is Sen Hatch.

    One of the most eye opening experiences in my life has been the last 24 months watching the closeted resentment come pouring forth from fellow Americans. I truly had no idea.

    I was naive. I bought into the Bill of Rights, service before self, asking what one can do for their country, conservative compassion, being our brother's keeper, etc. That was the American thing to do at one time.

    Bannon and company brilliantly tapped into the unseen (to me) undercurrent of hatred and resentment and exploited it to achieve a different agenda.

    Watching Americans buy into that alternative agenda is simultaneously gut wrenching, disappointing, and fascinating.

    And I thought money revealed character.

  • eigerjoe Sandy, UT
    July 31, 2018 10:11 a.m.

    Hatch is wrong. President Trump is right. The liberal left wing media/press is anti-nationalism and anti-populism. The liberal left wing media/press is pro-globalism and pro-elitism. Therefore, from President Trump's point of view and mine, the liberal left wing media/press is an enemy of the people. Hatch is on the other side.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    July 31, 2018 8:30 a.m.

    Hatch needs to retire now. Years of getting NOTHING done and trump in 11/2 years does more than all of congress in 50 years.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    July 31, 2018 6:28 a.m.

    I continue to lose heart for the future of our country. So many angry voices. So many lies.

    Senator Hatch, a strong proponent of the president, asked him to stop villainizing the press. A reasonable request. Then out come all the various angry voices that virtually accuse the nation's news media of sabtoging the trump regime in the pursuit of some weird conspiracy theory to turn us into communists. And somehow or another, Senator Hatch is a willing dupe in all this.

    The anger scares me. Indeed, the president has done a "good" job in inflamining and convincing his loyal supporters that no one but him can be trusted. However, the worst of this whole episode is the country's decline in trust and fear of objective truth. The media, properly reports what happens. News is verified and sourced. Just because you don't like what they report does not mean that it is a lie. The "genius" of the president is that he has convinced his tribe of loyalists that you don't believe what is before obviously in front of your face.

    If this continues, we sink into fascism or worse.

  • "Hakuna Matata" Vernal, UT
    July 31, 2018 2:56 a.m.

    The POTUS's liability stock just keep on soaring.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    July 31, 2018 12:13 a.m.

    @patriot: "President Trump says what the rest of us think."

    Funny. I don't spend much time thinking about how attractive my daughter is. I don't think about how I can grope women and how they'll love it because I have money. I don't think that I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan and nobody would stop loving me. I don't think the media and the FBI are out to get me.

    Guess I'm doing it wrong.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    July 31, 2018 12:07 a.m.

    Conservatives these days seem to have very little faith in the media, and Trump spends half of his tweets reminding us how the New York Times, Washington Post, and so forth are losing readership and losing money.

    Let's assume, for the moment, that they're right.

    In that case, wouldn't there be an amazing business opportunity for conservative entrepreneurs to start up new media organizations? Newspapers, TV stations, and websites that conservative audiences would want to patronize?

    Isn't the Republican party the party of the free market any more? Or is it easier to embrace the new-found perspective of the downtrodden conservative white male, and whine about how unfair the world is?

  • mightymite , 00
    July 30, 2018 11:44 p.m.

    Does hatch even have any credibility anymore? Trump already compromised him and and pushed him to the side. Please Mr Hatch you have no standing. To little to late to speak out.

  • Rita B Herriman, UT
    July 30, 2018 9:19 p.m.

    @Felis - That Politico magazine says that 7% of journalists self-identify as Republicans, but it conveniently doesn't mention how many self-identify as Democrats. I think it's entirely possible that the majority self-identify as Independents. That seems to be a trend in our country tight now. Many people who are disgusted with the Republican Party are leaving it to become Independents.

    And I really don't think that living in a liberal place would cause anyone to automatically turn more liberal. I live in a very conservative town, and if anything, it has made me more sure of my liberal vonvictions.

  • FelisConcolor Layton, UT
    July 30, 2018 8:18 p.m.

    "For people who think the media are a bunch of conspiring, agenda driven liberals, my challenge is this: Prove it."

    There is an article in the May/June 2017 issue of Politico Magazine "The Media Bubble Is Worse Than you Think", which would be a good start for you.

    In it, we find that only 7% of journalists self-idenfity as Republican.

    We also find that find that 72% of journalists nationwide live in counties that voted for Clinton in 2016; 51% live in counties that Clinton won by more than 30%.

    And finally, we also find that journalism jobs are increasingly concentrated in large coastal urban areas, and less and less in rural areas.

    Taken together, it's pretty obvious journalists overwhelmingly live in liberal enclaves. Their neighbors are likely to be liberal, their local politicians are likely to be Democrats, and their kids go to schools with kids from liberal families.

    That might not add up to a conspiracy in your view, but it certainly is strong evidence of bias.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    July 30, 2018 6:47 p.m.

    "Yes the majority of the media is the enemy of the people if you are being honest. I would exclude Fox News who still retain their professionalism and can still be called news"

    Funniest comment of the week. FoxNews unbiased, honest? Ok.

    I am befuddled by all of this.

    Bias equals "doesn't support my opinion". So tired of people treating those who don't agree with them as the "enemy".

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    July 30, 2018 4:47 p.m.

    Only about two-in-ten Americans (22%) trust the information they get from local news organizations a lot, whether online or offline, and 18% say the same of national organizations, slightly higher than the 14% who say this of the information they get from their friends and family. While the portion saying they have a lot of trust in each group is low, large majorities have at least some trust.

    24% Believe the media deals fairly with both sides. 74% tend to favor one side.

    source: PEW Research Center

    After the 2016 election, the media has a long way to go to regain their credibility.

  • uterebel50 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2018 4:24 p.m.

    What's this? Orrin Hatch is now telling the "best President he's ever served under" to stop calling the press the "enemy of the people?" Is the honeymoon over?

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    July 30, 2018 4:08 p.m.

    byronbca

    Said poster wants facts of liberal media bias.

    Trumps exact words regarding the charlottesville riots: "we in the strongest possible terms condemn the violence and bigotry on many sides. Many sides..."

    The msm claimed trump sided with the white supremicist groups. Its clear trump said nothing of the such, to claim he did is pure spin and fake propaganda. Anyone who saw the video clips of the riots would have seen 3 groups with riot gear, hate speech on their makeshift plywood shields. Antifa, blm and white supremicists all played a role in the violence all are to blame, hence trumps words, "condemn...many sides".

    Lets not forget the fake anti muslim video hillary conjured up that the msm tried to spin as the reason for the benghazi incident. Yeah we conservatives know a fake story when we see one.

    The media deserves the criticism they are getting.

  • Holy-Schamoly-What Baloney Kaysville, UT
    July 30, 2018 4:09 p.m.

    "Insofar as reporters are committed to objective journalism and not political advocacy, they should be treated as noncombatants in the culture wars."

    And when did this resume among our journalists? They are about making money, being first with anything, speculating and aggrandizing as well as criticizing and censuring others. The FACTS are immaterial; the TRUTH is always the first casualty with a "free press" that has an agenda driven posture. Retractions and corrections appear in a tiny block on page 28 after headlines on the front page are proven wrong. The press in this and every country is in a mess of their own making.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    July 30, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    Rush Limbaugh has bashed the "drive-by media" for 30 years. When people hear something on an endless loop, they believe it. It's very much the same reason Trump has mentioned "no collusion" on Twitter 72 times.

    Hatch and Trump both know when one side of the electorate can be brainwashed in much the same way Proctor & Gamble sells laundry soap, there's no sense in stopping.

  • AC_68 Provo, UT
    July 30, 2018 3:54 p.m.

    We are vulnerable like never before to Propaganda and Fake News, thank you very much, Internet.
    President Trump is correct: We should be skeptical of what we hear or read, it's not like before! A little bit of checking sources, a little bit of homework is needed now - thank you very much, Internet.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    July 30, 2018 3:35 p.m.

    The Press is often slanted with their news reporting

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    July 30, 2018 3:26 p.m.

    byronbca

    There are many kinds of news biases. The type of bias I think you are referring to is news that is based on a story that is entirely fabricated like CBS with the Dan Rather National Guard story where phony documents were created on a computer as the basis of a story that was supposed to have occurred during the age of typewriters. CNN used this playbook again when it reported on a phony dossier that made wild accusations against Trump including hiring prostitutes to do things beyond the pale.

    A more subtle form of bias is taking a true story and misrepresenting it. For example the AP ran the headline "NRA bans guns at President Trump, VP Pence speeches during its annual meeting in Dallas." This was partially true because that is a Secret Service requirement for all presidential appearances. But it was not the NRA.

    I started to give examples of other kinds of media biases such as headline bias and creative wordsmithing, but quickly ran out of space.

    By far the most common type is media bias is what they choose to ignore and what they choose to dwell on (i.e. non stop coverage of Romney's 'binders full of women', no mention of Obama's relationship to Rev. Wright).

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 30, 2018 3:15 p.m.

    @ byronbca - Salt Lake City, UT - July 30, 2018 1:03 p.m. - "For people who think the media are a bunch of conspiring, agenda driven liberals, my challenge is this: Prove it."

    Oh, brother. If you can't see the bias, try looking at things with your eyes open. The biasedness in favor of the liberal/Democrat agenda is everywhere. There is not near enough room on these DesNews comments to list them all. No, not even in four separate comments.

    I'll try to appease you anyway: go look at how the media treated Obama when he was running and when he was in the White House. Get the general feel of what they wrote and the wording they used and the overall feeling they tried to generate; one of greatness, wisdom, congeniality, goodness, etc. Now go look at how the media treated Trump while he was running and even more so after he won. See the difference now?

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2018 2:18 p.m.

    Re Vanceone. You did exactly what most people who believe in the mainstream media liberal conspiracy does.

    Instead of using real facts and actual evidence you invent some hypothetical argument based solely on opinions that you assume are real because it feels like it should be true. Instead of using real evidence you had to invent “government official X” to make your point.

    Try using real examples and verifiable facts to prove your liberal media conspiracy. Prove it. Factless arguments are just fantasies. Just because you wish something is true does not make it so.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 30, 2018 2:15 p.m.

    "The media worshipped Obama, literally worshipped him. They published countless photos with halos, etc."

    Weird. I never saw such photos. Maybe they are just a figment of your imagination. Just like the literal worship. Funny stuff.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    July 30, 2018 2:11 p.m.

    First, Senator Hatch, nothing you say now matters, and you have had ZERO effect on Trump. Since Trump was elected, you have been nothing but an enabler, if not in the Trump worship camp. So please spare us. Romney will never bow down to Trump as you have.

    Second, what the heck: "Spent much time talking about the vast amounts of Fake News being put out by the media & how that Fake News has morphed into phrase, “Enemy of the People.” Sad!,"

    Beside the fact of the inanity of this tweet (like every Trump tweet), the only person promoting fake news is Trump himself. He is a notorious, transparent liar. EVERY DAY. Trump is himself fake news. He is the only one who uses the phrase "enemy of the people". Its just bizarre.

    Trump wants to be dictator. He wants to be worshiped. He's insanely afraid of being spoken of negatively. That is why he loves FOX, and hates the press.

    The press is telling the truth about Trump, and more power to them.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    July 30, 2018 2:08 p.m.

    And if you need any more proof of the media's bias:

    There were five staffers from the New York Times – Amy Chozik, Gail Collins, Jonathan Martin, Maggie Haberman and Pat Healey, as well as Alyssa Mastramonoco of Vice, Jon Allen of Vox, Mike Allen of Axios, and Glenn Thrush of Politico, who was later found to have submitted stories to the Clinton campaign for approval prior to publishing.

    Somehow, though, all of them forgot to tell their readers that the Clinton camp was the final editor for their stories.

  • bassoonlady OREM, UT
    July 30, 2018 1:55 p.m.

    Patriot,
    I am not thinking what Trump tweets.
    I still don't understand who can actually defend the guy. He has done some good things, I have been pleasantly surprised to see. But I do not agree with most of what comes out of his mouth. I am a republican, and I am not alone.
    The press is not an enemy of the people for having viewpoints. The downfall of America will come as we become more and more devided and less willing to see things from the other perspective. In this, we are all an enemy of the nation.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    July 30, 2018 1:38 p.m.

    Byronbca: This is simple. Examine the stories as printed about government official X, caught in some scandal.

    If it's a Democrat official, under a Democrat administration, the story is always, but always, "Republicans pounce on leaks alleging misconduct. " And the story is about how Republicans are trying to gain political points, somehow, and clearly unfairly.

    If it's a Republican administration or a Republican official, it's always, "Republican caught in scandal!" And the story is filled with outrageous outrage from Democrats, and nary a word is ever spoken about Democrats trying to gain partisan advantage. And it's always shameless, too. A republican caught cheating on his wife? Let's interview Bill Clinton, who will offer up outrage without any shame at all. The story is always, but always, flavored to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. Republican made a mistake on an FEC filing? Front page above the fold in 128 pt font. Democrat caught in a rape/murder gang? Page 34, size 2 font below the advertisements for repossessed televisions.

    The fact that a British tabloid, the Daily Mail, is more informative than todays American press, says it all, really.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 30, 2018 1:14 p.m.

    President Trump says what the rest of us think. That is why he connected so well during the 2016 campaign with people. Yes the majority of the media is the enemy of the people if you are being honest. I would exclude Fox News who still retain their professionalism and can still be called news. That is why they are #1 by far and the most watched news station in the nation. These other media propaganda sites hate Christians and they hate traditional America so is that not an enemy to your children and grandchildren? If we define a friend as someone who has the same ideals and goals and an enemy who wants to destroy those ideals and goals then CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, NY TIMES, Washington Post , Time Magazine etc.... have all earned the title of enemy of the people. President Trump is correct and he merely repeats what the rest of us think and know. Let's get real here folks -- we know Trump with his unvarnished tweets is correct. Senator Hatch knows better.

  • fight4liberty Herriman, UT
    July 30, 2018 1:08 p.m.

    When the press quits being a enemy to the people instead of another arm of the Democratic Socialists of America, then and only then should Trump do that.

    First look who owns these media companies, most owners are very left leaning and politically active, so change will not happen anytime soon.

    Next, the MSM was struggling financially until Trump came along, then their profits soared. So Trump is a money maker for them, which means Trump will stay the propaganda topic of the news until he no longer makes them money. Money money money, drives them all!

    If real journalisim was happening, we would be hearing about events good and bad world wide, with no commentary from the the journalist.

    Mr Hatchs commentary stating Trump should not be anti-media is just affirming Hatchs willingness to participate in the propaganda.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2018 1:03 p.m.

    For people who think the media are a bunch of conspiring, agenda driven liberals, my challenge is this: Prove it.

    Find a non-opinion news article from today, from a real journalist who you believe to be in on the conspiracy (or maybe you think they are just lying) and use the internet to try to catch them lying. Try and prove them wrong with actual verifiable evidence good enough that you could cite it in an 8th grade level English paper.

    Keep in mind that anything that can’t be cited as a fact, can’t be considered evidence, and opinions are not facts and can’t be used as evidence.

    Then try the same experiment with Sean Hannity and Trump. This experiment will blow your mind.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:57 p.m.

    You're biased and I'm biased. Although professional reporters make a conscious effort to present the facts as objectively as possible, no human is completely objective. That said, if you're concerned about media bias, your best bet is too consult a variety of sources and to make sure you're getting most of your news from reliably objective sources.

    The famous "Media Bias" chart (you can easily Google it) shows where the various media outlets fall on the political spectrum. If most of your news is coming from either the right or left side of the spectrum, or if you're relying primarily on partisan sites, you're simply not getting an objective view of the world.

  • utahcoyote Saint George, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:48 p.m.

    the media was definitely in the bag for trump during the gop primary in the last election. trump adhered to the adage that no press is bad press then, and was clearly proven to be right. mainstream media behemoths fox news, cnn, wsj and nyt countless stories on trump literally gave him 100s of millions of dollars in free publicity, while his gop opponents got the leftovers.

  • utahcoyote Saint George, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:48 p.m.

    the media was definitely in the bag for trump during the gop primary in the last election. trump adhered to the adage that no press is bad press then, and was clearly proven to be right. mainstream media behemoths fox news, cnn, wsj and nyt countless stories on trump literally gave him 100s of millions of dollars in free publicity, while his gop opponents got the leftovers.

  • Sportsfan123 Herriman, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    A propagandist machine the media is.
    Until the media actually reports what their charter says, and that is what they learn in school to report facts without bias, when that day happens we can consider the MSM not to be an enemy.

    Hitler used his media outlets to propagandise his agenda, look how that turned out. I dont need to hear hate speech from the media regarding a certain politician from either side isle of the isle.

    For once just report the facts and let the american people decide for themselves.

    No Orin Hatch, you are wrong.

  • PeakBagger1 Heber City, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:31 p.m.

    Jouralism died with Tim Russert. Now we’re just left with left-wing and right-wing propaganda. Sad that today’s media can’t see it. I guess they’re too busy colluding on their current version of “journolist” rather than being real journalists.

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    July 30, 2018 12:06 p.m.

    Oh please: Trump is exactly right. The press IS the enemy of the people. Not all of them, certainly, but considering the press is proud of being a propaganda outlet for the Democrat party, and they openly admit they lie and distort the news to push their views.... they are clearly the enemy of the people.

    Consider: Evan Mcmullen's candidacy was entirely a creation of the Deseret Media empire, and it was a desperate attempt to throw the entire election. The idea was to have McMullin win Utah and then throw the election to the House of representatives, where they could have voted for McMullin instead of Trump or Hillary.

    The media worshipped Obama, literally worshipped him. They published countless photos with halos, etc. They are clearly biased (over 95% voted straight progressive). We might as well have Pravda--they are more honest.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 30, 2018 12:02 p.m.

    Poor Donald - maybe this job is just too big for him.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 30, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    Orrin may think he has influence, but not that much. Trump will do what he wants and that's that. Which is why Trump will go down as the worst President in history, which is where Presidential historians have him so far.