Monument review process under new fire

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  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    July 25, 2018 2:02 p.m.

    "The story details internal documents showing a preference over multiple use activities on monument lands rather than protections of resources that can come with a monument designation."

    What these people call bias, normal Americans call common sense. The Antiquities Act was meant to prevent looting of archaeological and Native American structures and objects in the smallest amount of land possible. Multiple use activities make public lands available to more of the public.

    If you want to see real bias read the Larry C. Wooten report of BLM bias against ranchers, Mormons and cattle grazing during the Obama administration. You'll have to google it because you'll never find in the Washington Post.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 24, 2018 5:25 p.m.

    No surprises here.

    We've known for a long time that we can't trust much of anything coming out of Washington these days . . .

    Time to Make America Sane Again

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    July 24, 2018 11:05 a.m.

    Sanefan - Wellsville, UT

    And to those from out of the State of Utah, we really don't care what you think.
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    According to 2017 article, 'tourism' accounts for about $8B income to the state, and about $1.1B taxes to the state government.

    So, why would people want to come to a state where vacation/scenic opportunities are on a par with some exploited 3rd world setting, or the few locations are so over crowded, that there is virtually no enjoyment being there.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    July 24, 2018 10:53 a.m.

    @Sanefan - "And to those from out of the State of Utah, we really don't care what you think."

    In 1990, a group wanted to create a massive coal-fired electricity plant north of Wells, Nevada, named "Thousand Springs".

    Utah politicians got the idea shut down because the prevailing winds would have pushed the pollution right into Utah, making our winter time inversions worse and summer haze we see from wildfires a permanent condition.

    It turns out we do care what other states do, if it adversely affects us.

    Why should other states not expect the same courtesy from us?

  • McMurphy St George, Utah
    July 24, 2018 10:26 a.m.

    This can't surprise anyone. Trump told Zinke what the results of the "review" would be before it began. Trump got his guidance from Utah's delegation -- especially Hatch and Bishop.

    What bothers me the most is the outright dishonesty of pretending that there would a disinterested and honest review of the monuments when the books were cooked from the outset.

    But then what else would I expect from Washington ??

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    July 24, 2018 10:15 a.m.

    This is only the latest piece in a mountain of evidence proving that the Trump administration is determined to turn Lincoln's vision of a government of the people, by the people and for the people into a government of the liars, by the liars and for the liars.

  • Deseret Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    July 24, 2018 10:11 a.m.

    This story is front page on the Tribune today, and one would think that the Deseret give it a better placement and would at least give it a more accurate headline: The story should focus on the "rigged" review process, not on the "ammunition" it provides to critics of the Trump shrinkage. The fact that the review was unfair is not the doing of critics. This is horribly biased news coverage.

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    July 24, 2018 10:03 a.m.

    Since this article is from WaPo, owned by Jeff Bezos, the squealing from Trump will be; "FAKE NEWS!" and the local will believe it.

    The real media, not "Faux and Friends" is helping to expose Trump and his administration one indictment at a time. Therefore, it's fake news because it doesn't show loyalty toward Trump.

    "Sanefan - Wellsville, UT

    "DN is right, a big NOTHING burger! Clinton and Obama hugely abused the antiquities act. Things were righted. And to those from out of the State of Utah, we really don't care what you think."

    I guess you still don't understand that Utah does NOT own any Federal land, especially within state boundaries.

    When Trump is out of office, (not soon enough) and a Dem gets back into office the lands will be restored to Pre-Trump boundaries.

    If you read the Antiquities Act, it says a president can establish boundaries. It does not say anything about removing boundaries already set by a president.

    Trump is conducting multiple criminal acts and will be held accountable for them. Many of them. We will be free of him and get the country back on track.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    July 24, 2018 10:02 a.m.

    Ryan Zinke was appointed by Trump and he came through for his boss. There was never an expectation of a fair review because the outcome was basically a foregone conclusion.

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    July 24, 2018 8:38 a.m.

    To understand the sham, isn’t it enough to know that the only monuments downsized were in Utah, at the behest of Utah’s congressional delegation?

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    July 24, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    Someone stands to make a lot of money on this and it won't be the local people.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    July 24, 2018 8:06 a.m.

    DN is right, a big NOTHING burger! Clinton and Obama hugely abused the antiquities act. Things were righted. And to those from out of the State of Utah, we really don't care what you think.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    July 24, 2018 7:58 a.m.

    Interesting you got to look at the bigger Picture, Utah tires to buy a port in Oakland the port was to ship Utah Coal, Minerals and goods to Asia\China. That failed but now we have a Inland Port.

    With Zinke Shrining the National Monument area those areas will be mined The Utah PLI or Public Lands Initiative drawn up by Chaffetz & Bishop states

    "State would exercise the rights of the State to develop and permit all forms of energy resources on available Federal land"

    In summary the "Bigger Picture" is Get the land, build a port and ship it to Asia which means help grow the Asian \ China Economy.

    Mean while Utah raises your taxes on everything to support building a port and maintaining Fed Land,

    Now heres the gut laugh , Trump created a trade war with China Bawahaha nice try Utah but your own party just punched you in the gut.

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 24, 2018 7:57 a.m.

    We didnt need any memo to tell us that. These guys want to give away what belongs to all of us to whoever gives them 'campaign donations'.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    July 24, 2018 6:24 a.m.

    Drill baby Drill! This administration is going down in history as the most destructive pestilence in history.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    July 24, 2018 6:12 a.m.

    As an actual resident of Montana, I want to apologize to the country for our native son being in this high office.

    He does not, repeat not, represent the values of this state. The state of his birth. I don't know whose values he purports to represent, but that is another issue.

    Montanans value our preserved lands. Currently our party of trump Senator and Representative (Mr. Beat Up Reporters) have asked the country to give up part of our national heritage in Montana. The people of this state are not amused. Not amused at all.

    So, the party of trump, nee GOP, has decided that it does not matter what the people think. It only matters what the resource extraction industry thinks. After all, it is the resource extraction industry that pays for their campaigns and other goodies to nameless to list.

    Yup, the best government you can buy when the party of trump is in control.

  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    July 24, 2018 12:45 a.m.

    After reading SAS's comment,

    "Including cherry picking the facts you agree with, and ignoring any contradictory information. That's a traditional Utah value, right?"

    Traditional 'progressive values' don't seem to include recognition that the Antiquities Act was written over a century ago for the burgeoning problems of that era to protect newly learned about natural wonders from destruction. That was a time with poor and slow travel options, trains and horseback. [FYI; SLC only had 10% of its roads paved by 1928 according to an economic survey and study done for the SL Chamber by a civil engineer named Theron Tracy..That was a time when the Parleys Canyon 'highway' was well graded "dirt", not asphalt.]

    Also, as written, the Ant. Act was meant for small areas of protection. Utah had 3 new small areas protected that fit the meaning of the Act as written, then! It was brilliant and appropriately used by TR and later presidents for a few more decades.

  • furymouse Draper, UT
    July 23, 2018 8:51 p.m.

    "tailored their survey of protected sites to emphasize the value of logging, ranching and energy development that would be unlocked if they were not designated national monuments"

    So there never was an actual study by them, only that they want to destroy our lands for their gain.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    July 23, 2018 8:14 p.m.

    Don't worry. Zinke is coming to the pioneer day rodeo to show us his understanding of Western values.

    Including cherry picking the facts you agree with, and ignoring any contradictory information. That's a traditional Utah value, right?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 23, 2018 8:12 p.m.

    A big nothing burger.

    So, Secetary Zinke has different priorities than the "Western Values Project" and therefore he showed "...a preference over multiple use activities on monument lands rather than protections of resources that can come with a monument designation."

    That's why he is Secretary of the Interior, responsible for carrying out the President's agenda and promises. It is not illegal, just different priorities than his critics.

    I am sure that if Hilary had won and some enviro-activist were appointed Secretary of the Interior, the Western Values folks would be telling anyone complaining about land use policy "elections have consequences."

    Well done, Secretary Zinke!

    MAGA!