In our opinion: Rising health care costs aren't what the doctor ordered

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  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    July 25, 2018 6:56 a.m.

    To "scrappy do" and who will control the government? Right now at least 50% of the cost of insurance is due to directly to mandates on insurance. You then have all of the taxes and regulations that also add to the cost.

    How do you control the cost of care when you give the government a monopoly?

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    July 23, 2018 6:05 p.m.

    Single payer will be here within 10 years... in the meantime maybe the Feds can step up and take control of big pharma

    When the Dems have the power it will happen

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 23, 2018 8:57 a.m.

    Tekakaromatagi wrote:

    "@Thomas Jefferson:
    "Single payer is the future, " And who is volunteering to be that single payer? People keep suggesting a single payer, but no one ever volunteers to be that payer."

    Do you really need it spelled out for you? Single payer means the federal government. It means we use taxes to pay for it. It means we cover everyone. It means your company can quit having a team of people to administer the company health plan. It means entrepreneurs can not be forced to stay in a crappy job to depend on insurance. It means doctors offices can stop having to hire teams of people to handle billing. It means insurance companies cant just cut your off as soon as you get sick.

    It still amazes me that people dont get this.

    Every other modern country pays half of what we do with better results and better satisfaction.

    Every other modern country.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    July 23, 2018 7:44 a.m.

    To "GingerMarshall" I think you are getting things confused. The cancer is collectivism.

    What your ilk ignores is that insurance costs have gone up fast over the past 30 years as you have put more regulations and control on the insurance companies. It is the collectivism that is the cancer, sucking the lifeblood out of the insurance companies.

    Yes, look at the banking crisis. We have regulations that prevent the free market from denying loans to people who really shouldn't be getting them. How can you blame capitalism when it is regulation that caused the problem?

    To "silo" every study that claims the US has a bad healthcare system includes having the government pay for the healthcare. They don't look strictly at the overall outcome of all medical procedures.

  • GingerMarshall Brooklyn, OH
    July 21, 2018 7:15 a.m.

    @RedShirt: "To "marxist " and collectivism keeps proving that it doesn't work. As bad as capitalism is, it is still better than what you and your ilk want."

    Unrestricted capitalism is metastasizing cancer, growing out of control and without regard for damage being done.

    The happiest and best functioning countries on earth are socialist democracies with solidly capitalist economies that are well regulated.

    In the US banking crisis the banks were bailed out and the citizens suffered.

    In Iceland the bankers went to jail and the people were bailed out better controls were put in place.

  • DarthMaul Vernal, UT
    July 20, 2018 6:09 p.m.

    How about telling it like it really is.

    A big highrise building gold-plated door knob boardroom right in the middle of the city in corporate America.

    That is where invented justification takes place to make the select few able to fly their private jets to the Swiss Alps for a week-long winter ski trip.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    July 20, 2018 4:55 p.m.

    @redshirtslcc
    "Ironically when you compare costs by procedure, the US system costs as much as other countries"

    Cite any study that backs your claim. Just one.

    Here's one that refutes your claim. The commonwealth fund conducted a study last year that showed the US was dead last in health care ranking against 11 western countries. The study compared Health Care process, Access, Efficiency, Equity and Outcomes across the 11 countries.

    The US was dead last not just overall, and dead last in 3 of the 5 categories. In addition, the per capita cost in the US was almost double the second place country, and was more than double the average.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    July 20, 2018 3:31 p.m.

    To "Utefan60 " if you bothered to read my statement, I said that the US has the longest lifespan when you account for accidental deaths. You see, we have a great medical system, but we also have a clumsy population that dies in accidents.

    How about this for an answer. In Canada healthcare is paid for via taxes, and 50% of all bankruptcies in Canada are due to taxes. So, that means you got a lot of people in Canada that can't afford the healthcare there.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2018 1:08 p.m.

    RedShirtHarvard - Cambridge, MA, you said that the "US has the best medical statistics". Absolutely not true. No valid survey says this. No valid study.

    Canada haas a longer life span that US Citizens, as does Denmark, Sweden, Germany and Japan. Those all have Universal Health Care. And a higher level of life satisfaction. Why? They also do not suffer bankruptcy rates like we do in the US.

    I noticed you deflected yet again and are afraid to answer my two simple questions about bankrupsey that I asked you in this blog. Why? Can't answer those two simple questions without causing your views of healthcare to suffer a little bit of cognitive dissonance?

    This country needs to have Universal health care, and stop feeding the rich and corporate entities from the tax coffers that the GOP is draining.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 20, 2018 12:23 p.m.

    Hey Weston Jurney -

    Re: "Every other industrialized country has universal health care, except the U.S. Every one."

    That's because Republicans continually hold America back from success.

    When Republicans win, America loses.

    That's why America's enemies celebrate when Republicans win elections here. Our enemies want America to lose.

    The Russia - Republican coalition is an anti-American WMD.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    July 20, 2018 10:44 a.m.

    What I am trying to figure out is why do the liberals want a single payer system to be created by the same politicians that were bought and paid for by the insurance companies? Will those same politicians not be corrupt this time when making healthcare regualtions?

    To "Weston Jurney" really??? What alternate universe do you live in.

    Read up on the crisis in England. Read up on the systemic problems in France and Germany. Read up on Japan and how they tax you more if you are overweight. How about the countries that limit the number of times you can visit a doctor.

    Ironically when you compare costs by procedure, the US system costs as much as other countries. So, if the procedure costs are the same, what is the reason for the US spending more than others? Could it be that we use more medical services?

    The facts are, no other country has the medical technology that we do here. Overall, the US has the best medical statistics, and that includes lifespan when you account for accidents.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 20, 2018 8:47 a.m.

    Dr. Trump begs to differ with you. He wants higher costs.

    It's time for a national health insurance system. Enough already.

  • Weston Jurney West Jordan, UT
    July 20, 2018 7:50 a.m.

    Every other industrialized country has better quality care than the U.S. Every one.

    Every other industrialized country has universal health care, except the U.S. Every one.

    Every other industrialized country pays LESS for health care than the U.S. Every one.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    July 20, 2018 7:14 a.m.

    If the "conservative" prescription for an overhaul of the medical system is so good, why haven't we done it? The party of trump, nee GOP, has not proposed trashing Medicare, Medicaid, tax benefits for employer provided health coverage or the VA. All of these government programs facilitate a socialist mentality which the party of trump, nee GOP, so hate.

    To figure out this conundrum, you have to really see who benefits (financially speaking) from our current system. When you follow the money, you will surely find out why this country can not provide universal care to its citizenry with the same efficiency and lower costs than do every other first world country on the globe. And undoubtedly you will find that the party of trump, nee GOP, is in the pockets of the beneficiaries of health care money.

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    July 20, 2018 6:48 a.m.

    To "Doom Turtle" it is 20% (or more) overhead for the Federal Government. Medicare is part of the Federal Government.

    Actually, prior to the ACA the overhead costs of insurance were still around 15%. The ACA did nothing to change it.

    If the VA is so good, why is it that the government had to do a major audit of it to find all of the fraud being committed by the administrators? What about the deplorable conditions that Walter Reed was found to have? How is the profit motive any different than an VA administrator's bonus motive?

    The problem is you still have the same mentality that you did when you started your practice. You are ignoring the fact that it is the government that has been making things worse when dealing with insurance companies. If you look at the number of government mandates on insurance companies, it has grown a lot since 1980. Those mandates range from what is covered to billing practices. Do you think something as inefficient as the government should be telling private businesses how to run their business?

    If insurance companies are so bad to deal with, why do you accept insurance? Many doctors out there don't accept any insurance and they survive.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2018 6:36 a.m.

    RedShirt - USS Enterprise, UT, every industrialized country has Universal Healthcare as a right for all of it's citizens, except the US. Like you and your "ilk" to answer two simple questions.

    1, How many bankruptcies happened in Canada last year due to uncovered medical costs? Get google out and look it up. We will wait for your answer.

    2. How many US citizens filed for bankruptcy last year due to the inability to pay for medical costs? Again Redshirt, you can look this up and we will await your answer.

    My guess is you will deflect and not answer these two simple questions.

    The answers to health care problems in the US are all around us in countries like Canada, Germany, Thailand, Denmark, Sweden, and dozens of other advanced countries. Hint: Universal Health care!

  • Doom Turtle SLC/SLC, UT
    July 19, 2018 10:50 p.m.

    @ Redshirt
    20% overhead for Medicare? Where does that come from? Every paper I've ever seen puts it much lower than that, typically in the single digit range.
    Private insurance now has a legal cap on overhead of 15%, it was higher before it was reined in by the ACA. There is plenty of insurance fraud under private insurance, it does not receive the publicity that Medicare or Medicaid fraud does.
    As a physician I have 30 years experience in all systems; VA, for-profit and nonprofit.
    It is clear that for-profit healthcare is just that, profits before patients. At times things are frankly scary. The focus on money can be stomach-turning. Nonprofit may be that and free from tax obligations, but their mission is to put the profits into growing the system, which gives administrators more power and pay. They are paid at the same exorbitant scale as their counterparts in the for-profit systems.
    The VA is a good system overall with rough edges. Patients are well treated with the resources they have.
    When I started practice as an ignorant republican, I thought we had the best healthcare system in the world.
    30 years in the business showed me how wrong I was, I'll take single-payer anytime.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 19, 2018 8:34 p.m.

    I thought I was going to get better insurance for less money on Trump's first day in office. What happened?

  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 4:12 p.m.

    Some statistics:

    Utah ranks #3 in fewest Drs. per capita.

    Utah
    > Doctors per 100,000 people: 169.5
    > Medical students per 100,000 people: 14.1 (7th lowest)
    > Pct. without health insurance: 15.3 % (19th highest)
    > Life expectancy: 80.1 years (8th highest)
    (source: 24/7WallSt.)

  • RedShirtHarvard Cambridge, MA
    July 19, 2018 3:13 p.m.

    To "The Educator" actually no. If you look at the data coming out of Canada and compare it to pre-ACA data, you were more likely to die waiting for life saving surgeries in Canada than you were to die in the US because of a lack of insurance.

    So, what you are saying you would rather people die or suffer because of a lack of treatment than have to declare bankruptcy. You also should look into why people declare bankruptcy. Those that claim it was due to medical bills were already on their way to bankruptcy, the medical bills were just the final straw and were not the actual cause.

    How does creating a single payer healthcare system get people to manage their finances better? Do we need to have a government agency to take care of your finances too?

    Tell us, how do you make single payer systems cheaper if you don't limit what you cover? If you don't limit what you cover then how can you make it cheaper?

    The bigger question is how do we pay for it? You complain now about your salary, what are you going to say when your taxes go up by $10,000 or more per year?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 3:07 p.m.

    @RedShirt "we have what you propose, and SS is nearly bankrupt, Medicare can't keep up with demand or costs. "

    But we've lost a government which supports industrial democracy, i.e. labor unions. And it really shows.

    BTW, SS is in surplus.

  • EscherEnigma Ridgecrest, CA
    July 19, 2018 2:32 p.m.

    Seriously? A survey?

    Sorry, but that's useless. Of course doctors don't think they're to blame. And if you surveyed pharmaceutical companies, they'll think they're not too blame. And if you surveyed insurers, they think they're not too blame.

    Understanding or costs is an important first step, but it won't be accomplished by asking people "who do *you* blame?", But by rigorous analysis of the numbers.

  • The Educator South Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2018 2:01 p.m.

    @ reddy

    Far Fewer people die waiting for health care in Canada and the U.K. than here and they actually provide health care to all of their citizens without the threat of bakeuptcy. Over 30 million Americans today are a heartbeat away from financial disaster. Single payer systems are cheaper, see higher levels of patient satisfaction, and provide superior service. Facts matter.

    Medicare’s greatest cost is providing drugs to patients. Which is why we need more government intervention. We need government to regulate prices and be able to negotiate on behalf of their patients. That’s what government was built to do rather than enrich big pharm and their bought off republican politicians. Facts matter!

    Read the books I listed before responding anymore to this thread. You need to make better informed posts rather than spew disinformation. Facts matter more thangour feelings.

    Get Educated

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 19, 2018 1:51 p.m.

    To "I M LDS 2" yes, if you knew that the definition of Fascism is the government control of privately held companies. What your ilk wants to do with the insurance companies meets the definition of Fascism.

    To "marxist" we have what you propose, and SS is nearly bankrupt, Medicare can't keep up with demand or costs. What we see time and time again is that when we do as your ilk wants it never ends well. Yes some people will lose weight, but that is only because people cannot afford to buy enough food anymore. Yes the current flavor of capitalism isn't doing well, but that is because of the government trying to control it. If you get the government out of the way, capitalism will work.

    To "The Educator" tell that to people who die in Canada waiting for surgeries, the people in England and throughout Europe who are refused medications. Tell us where capitalism has failed in insurance? They have had to meet government regulations which are always increasing. If you want to see capitalism succeed in healthcare, look at vision correction. You want to see the failure of single payer, look at the VA.

    Who isn't focused on profit? YOU are focused on profit.

    Get Educated.

  • Holy-Schamoly-What Baloney Kaysville, UT
    July 19, 2018 1:45 p.m.

    @ one old man I don't know what century you're living in, but I've noticed health care costs rising substantially during the term of every one of our past 4 or 5 presidents and their majority or minority party's seats in congress. It isn't just a Republican issue (unless you are having vision problems and don't see very well...then you might think it is) but it's one that persists. Neither party has the answer and everything they try just COSTS more. If only the U.S. Congress had to live with Obamacare themselves, it would be vastly different than what has been foisted on all of us and continues to get worse. Politicians should have to live with what they force on everyone else, including health care costs for all services and prescriptions. Then you'd see changes that help the average, common person.

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    July 19, 2018 12:59 p.m.

    I disagree with this article.

    Rising health care costs is exactly what the Dr. ordered when you vote republican. Republicans have made cuts to health care funding in order to fund their tax cuts to corporations and the rich. Apparently, that is what millions of Americans desired, why else did they vote for Trump? Elections have consequences.

    If skyrocketing health care costs come as a shock to you Trump voters, you have only yourselves to blame. This is what you wanted when you voted republican. They didn't make this a mystery to you. They told you exactly what they did. They told you that they were going to pass a tax cut for the rich and make cuts to Obamacare. Vote better next time.

    I don't like rising health care costs but hey, let this be a teaching moment.

  • The Educator South Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2018 12:54 p.m.

    Continued from above

    "So, by regulating the pharmaceutical companies you want to implement Fascism. That is what you are proposing."

    Nonsense. You don't know what fascism is. We live in a mixed economy, where government regulates sectors of our economy all over. Utah currently regulates Rocky Mtn. Power. Every increase must be passed through the legislature. Is Utah's legislature fascist?

    "As bad as capitalism is, it is still better than what you and your ilk want."

    Capitalism has proven to work well for certain sectors of our society, but not all. Sectors in commodities trading, like popcorn, cars, etc can all be privatized and work out real well. However, sectors like utilities, police and fire, education, and HEALH CARE have shown that privatization fails epically.

    Our health care system currently focuses on profit. This means that those who need health care the most, are the most vulnerable to being cut off. They're listed as liabilities since they pose the most risk of financial loss to insurance companies.

    This is why government needs to be far more involved in our HC industry than far less. Lets focus on helping people not helping insurance companies.

    Get Educated

  • The Educator South Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    " The countries that have universal care don't offer the services that we currently have. They cut corners by limiting medications, and limit what they will cover. In the end many nations end up killing or injuring people because of lack of care."

    Nonsense. Every single industrialized country with a single payer system is using a lower percentage of their GDP than we are. Most, offer better service, more services, and produce better outcomes than ours. Why? Because their systems focus on "prevention and treatment" not on "profit and price gouging", like ours.

    You should read books books called, "The American Sickness" and "The Healing of America" to learn about why our system is so expensive and ineffective and what other countries have done to solve problems. You would learn a lot from reading outside of your usual bubble.

    To be continued...

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 12:46 p.m.

    @Redshirt " As bad as capitalism is, it is still better than what you and your ilk want."

    I cannot speak for the rest of my "ilk" but I would gladly return to the "mixed economy" setup of the 1950's thru 1960's which had capitalism coupled with some socialism including social security and medicare, with a robust organized labor presence. But we now know capitalism will not tolerate ANY socialism in its presence, leading to massive concentrations of wealth at the top leaving most with nothing. So the mass of people must seek relief in a new socialist system.

    And BTW the actions of contemporary capitalism ironically are killing it. A collapse of capitalism without another system to go to would be disastrous. So we must transition to socialism. But I don't think you and others of your "ilk" will allow this.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    July 19, 2018 12:25 p.m.

    Redshirt,

    "regulating the pharmaceutical companies" = "Fascism"?

    I don't think you understand what you are talking about.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    July 19, 2018 12:24 p.m.

    Re: " Rising health care costs aren't what the doctor ordered"

    No, the doctor didn't order rising health care costs.

    Trump and the Republicans did.

    Their policies are DIRECTLY responsible for the rising cost of health care. Their goal is to sabotage Obamacare, and one way of doing that is to make it prohibitively expensive.

    Thus the Republicans in their quest to nullify everything Obama are taking great joy in increasing both the physical and financial suffering of everyday Americans.

    Republicans call that "winning." That's what Vlad Putin calls it as well.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 19, 2018 11:59 a.m.

    To "marxist " and collectivism keeps proving that it doesn't work. As bad as capitalism is, it is still better than what you and your ilk want.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 11:36 a.m.

    Bottom line: capitalism keeps proving it can't accommodate the needs of the people.

  • a bit of reality Shawnee Mission, KS
    July 19, 2018 10:49 a.m.

    This editorial is kind of funny. They asked *doctors* who is to blame for health care costs, and the doctors said, "It isn't us! It is the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical companies!" That doesn't prove doctors don't blame part of the guilt.

    The truth is that out of every $1.00 spent on healthcare, about 15 cents goes to insurance companies, another 10 cents to pharmaceutical companies, and the remaining 75 cents to doctors and hospitals.

    And since it is the doctors who prescribe the medicine, it's ironic to blame the pharmaceutical companies for filling the medicine the doctors order.

    Don't get me wrong. Big pharma is evil. Sure. And it would be great to put the insurance companies out of business with a single-payer system.

    But doctors are making most of the money in the current system, and that shouldn't be surprising: they approach medicine as a for-profit business where the more healthcare they deliver and the more they charge for any given procedure or service, the more money they make.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    July 19, 2018 10:43 a.m.

    @Thomas Jefferson:
    "Single payer is the future, " And who is volunteering to be that single payer? People keep suggesting a single payer, but no one ever volunteers to be that payer.

    My grandchildren should not be saddled with debt to pay for people's medical bills today. it isn't fair to them.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 19, 2018 10:30 a.m.

    To "Thomas Jefferson" so you want to put the people who were bought and paid for by the insurance companies to make a single payer system that will be "cheaper"? You do realize that the very people who have made the system so expense are the same people you want to run a new system. We can also discuss the fact that there is more fraud in the government healthcare systems than in private ones, or we can discuss the VA problems and imagine how that would be in a national healthcare system.

    To "The Educator" prove it. The numbers don't add up. Right now the average insurance company runs at 15% overhead (including profits), while the Federal Government runs at 20% overhead. The countries that have universal care don't offer the services that we currently have. They cut corners by limiting medications, and limit what they will cover. In the end many nations end up killing or injuring people because of lack of care.

    So, by regulating the pharmaceutical companies you want to implement Fascism. That is what you are proposing.

    Get Educated.

  • Spangs Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 10:22 a.m.

    For all of you out there who complain about government regulation:

    This is what lack of business regulation looks like.

  • Paul in MD Montgomery Village, MD
    July 19, 2018 9:49 a.m.

    The current climate in the health care industry is the responsibility of both political parties. The laws and regulations that have allowed the web of alliances between big pharma and insurance companies developed under the watchful eye of the federal government during every administration going back to the 30s. And the responsibility for fixing it is on the heads of both parties today.

    As for overpaid CEOs, that falls on the head of everyone invested in those companies and the people managing those accounts - pensions, 401ks, IRSs, etc. Stockholders demand profits, and CEOs who can drive those profits are rewarded handsomely, because the talent pool is small. I am not supporting this, but that's how it is.

    There are doctors trying to bring down costs. Look up direct primary care. Docs charge a flat monthly fee that covers most care, provides labs and Rx at cost (often negotiated way down), and are not limited by insurance or big medical companies in how long they spend with patients. Josh Umbehr is one who has written about it.

  • The Educator South Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2018 9:46 a.m.

    @ Reddy

    Actually, providing every American with basic nonprofit insurance which would provide everyone with health care would bring down costs faster than anything else. This is a fact demonstrated by every industrialized country that has a single payer system. Facts matter.

    Want to lower costs in our health care system? Get rid of the for profit insurance and regulate what big pharm can charge. Right now big pharm is price gouging patients.

    Facts matter!

    Get Educated

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 19, 2018 8:52 a.m.

    The major problem with our healthcare system is that at every level we have one or more 'businessmen' who have inserted themselves to take a chunk of the dollar spent and add nothing to our actual care. 'Unsurance' companies are the biggest offender. There is no 'free market' in healthcare and really their cant be.

    Single payer is the future, really its the present but we are led by regressive politicians who are paid to not fix problems. Every other modern country covers everyone and at half of what we pay. Anyone who tries to feed you the lie that 'Canadians are coming here for care' is just repeating nonsense they are sold by the right wing noise machine as they stick up for useless businessmen who take our money.

  • 1aggie Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    “Instead, accountability for outsized bills and fees should fall, in large part, with the web of pharmaceutical and insurance companies”

    Bingo

    I share an office with the biller for our physical therapy clinic. insurance companies do everything possible to avoid paying claims. In contrast, Medicare is very straightforward and pays what is due. I called my dermatologist recently to schedule a appt. I was told the practice was sold and the new owner only accepts Medicare. A couple of years ago my primary care dr. became a “concierge” dr., requiring those who want to stay his pts to pay a non-refundable, flat fee of $1800 per year. ( and limited his practice to the first 300 pts willing to pay the fee).

    (Btw I have very good PPO insurance).

    Conservatives in power are unwinding Obamacare without a replacement or safety net for those with pre-existing conditions.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 19, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    Rising health care costs are exactly what the Medical Industrial Complex ordered. CEOs of Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Hospital chains, etc. can't make tens of millions of dollars a year if health care is affordable.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 19, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    To "Utah Democrat " who doesn't have insurance anymore? The law says that you must be insured. The problem we have now is that taxpayers first pay for insurance for the poor, but that insurance has a high deductible so the poor can't use their insurance. Then, the poor yet insured go to the ER for care and we pay a 2nd time for their care.

    Adding more government involvement into insurance doesn't work. Already through the ACA we have made insurance more expensive and have made it less useful. Why would you want to make an already bad program bigger?

    Can you tell us how you would pay for basic medical care for every American? Can you also tell us where the doctors that are needed to handle that sort of program would come from?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 19, 2018 7:54 a.m.

    Few people realize that the healthcare industry enjoys the highest profit margin of ALL American industries.

    Few people realize that top executives in the healthcare industry enjoy the highest pay scales of ALL American industries. The AVERAGE CEO of a hospital chain, pharmaceutical company, or health insurance company is $66,000 PER DAY!

    C'mon everyone, how dare any of us question our obligation to stand up like loyal Republicans and make sure those guys are rewarded for all the hard work they do on our behalf.

    We should all be willing to make sacrifices to Make America Greedy Again.

  • Kally Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 7:30 a.m.

    As long as healthcare is a for profit industry, costs will continue to rise.

  • Utah Democrat Salt Lake City, UT
    July 19, 2018 6:42 a.m.

    Let's think about all the folks who use the ER as a point of entry because they don't have insurance and can't get in to see a routine doctor for a minor issue. We should be able to provide basic, reliable care to every American if we're to consider ourselves an advanced society. Treating healthcare as a 'market' economy is not working.