Lack of depth at tight end could be a problem for BYU Cougars

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  • Idaho forever South Jordan, UT
    July 13, 2018 6:20 p.m.

    See everybody in November............rhetoric will be replaced by action on the field. Anything that happens before then......is history and is not relevant. Having said that.......I will not be surprised if the Utes win........again

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    July 13, 2018 11:57 a.m.

    @FuzzyLogic - VACAVILLE, CA - How many of those Ute players were actually academically eligible, and how many violated the academic integrity guidelines for the non-athletes at the UU and should have been expelled?

    "I Helped Division I Athletes Cheat in College"

    "I have no doubt that those athletes making it to a bowl game were far more important to the school's administration than making sure they understood marginal rates of transformation."

  • FuzzyLogic VACAVILLE, CA
    July 13, 2018 12:52 a.m.

    AZUTE1 and RealUte (yea right) don't know any of the Y players 'cause they're REAL ute fans. Maybe this'll help.

    Ute 2* players through the years
    Alex Smith
    Eric Weddle
    Paul Kruger
    Brian Johnson
    Zane Beadles
    Louie Sakoda
    Caleb Schlauderaff
    Stevenson Sylvester

    Do you prefer that list or 2* players or Utah's 4* player list?
    Paul Soliai
    Marquis Wilson
    Joseph Faifili
    David Kruger
    James Aiono
    Terrance Cain
    Latu Heimuli

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    July 12, 2018 5:00 p.m.

    Go Cougs!!!!
    Go ROC!!!!!
    Go Cosmo!!!!!

    Then all of you,
    Go Away!!!!!
    😹

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    July 12, 2018 4:23 p.m.

    Real Ute
    You should know all about FCS talent with a former Big Sky Conference OC! How did he fare in his first season of big boy football again? 3-6 in conference play! I predict that if his second year isn't much better he will be gone and the Utes will have to start over on offense yet again! See you in November this year!

    Go Cougs!!!!!!!
    Go ROC!!!!!!!!!!
    Go Cosmo!!!!!!!!!!

  • PhineasGauge Woodbury, MN
    July 12, 2018 3:01 p.m.

    "Lack of depth at tight end could be a problem for BYU Cougars". A lack of talent at every other position on the team could also be a problem.....

  • Harline Still Open Kaysville, UT
    July 12, 2018 2:53 p.m.

    Reading the comments here is just continual proof that there is no such thing as a ute fan. Just BYU haters.

  • NewsFlash Kearns, UT
    July 12, 2018 2:45 p.m.

    Stringer Bell
    Try to follow the discussion please,

    The issue at hand was 2 Star players not being very good starting players according to AZUte1 when he said ""It’s all that 2 star talent generating zero playable depth behind byu’s overall mediocre @ best starters.""

    So I kindly showed he several 2 stars players who exceeded expectations of their "Star" power, however, I was not aware I had to limit my years to accommodate you ute fans..

    So here is some more:
    * Daniel Sorensen
    * Ezekiel Ansah
    * Bronson Kaufusi
    * Kia Nucua
    And Last but not Least - Jamaal Williams- Who now plays for the Packers, hold the BYU rushing record and was not even ranked by Preps....

  • Hwy150 Layton, UT
    July 12, 2018 2:41 p.m.

    jonny in the city

    Your obsession with all things BYU is understandable given your status as a card carrying member of the 2nd most rival obsessed fan base in the country.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 12, 2018 1:46 p.m.

    bluepuppy:

    Let me see if I have this right. You have two degrees from UW, you are a Mormon, and you post frequently on BYU-P stories. However, you would pillory an LDS, two-degree UofU alum (like me) for doing the same thing, claiming they are a "Mormon hater"?

    Is that your way of expressing the 'BYU-P uber alles' attitude that you seem to have picked up? Or, is it just plain hypocrisy?

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    July 12, 2018 12:18 p.m.

    B lue Husky....well spoken, sir...and correct!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    July 12, 2018 12:13 p.m.

    As usual, most comments on a BYU article are "ute fans". In contrast, I never read a single article about Utah football. I just don't care. I have two degrees from Washington, and am a dedicated Washington Husky, but I don't bother with the Seattle Times articles. They are more concerned with the pro teams. So I understand why Utah and BYU fans devour these articles. BYU is the biggest news in these parts.

    I enjoy reading these articles and comment sections (in the DN, that is), because here, BYU and Utah ARE the pros. So thanks for the entertainment, Utah trolls. But I sometimes wonder if you guys ever read anything about Utah. Seems like you jump on every BYU article and pretend you are Ute fans.

    Actually, I suspect you are just Mormon haters. Still, you are reading and absorbing everything BYU. That's a good thing. BYU has a lot to admire.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    July 12, 2018 12:08 p.m.

    LOL at azute1 morphing into real ute with the same old lame “star” smack.

    If the Utes were really as prolific at recruiting as their delusional fans claim, they’d be comparing their recruiting classes to the big boys of the PAC 12, rather than the recruiting classes of a unique private Independent like BYU.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    July 12, 2018 11:57 a.m.

    Tinkerbell

    You’re obviously clueless if you think that Chad Lewis or Dennis Pitta played for BYU 30 to 40 years ago.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    July 12, 2018 11:39 a.m.

    I, for one, am thoroughly enjoying the "Kalani Effect." Sitake's recruiting is perfect to me! "There is a new sheriff in town. Be very afraid, very afraid...." - Barney Fife

    Gooooo Utes!

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    July 12, 2018 11:36 a.m.

    Stringer,

    Are you certain that there are no high caliber players at BYU?

    How does one judge 100 kids just because you don't like their team?

    The star ratings are guesses at best, and if you like a school like BYU and commit early you are less likely to get stars anyway. Utah averages 3 stats per recruit, at BYU is 2.77.

    That gap is narrow enough that the games, although in Utah's favor, are still close.

    But you think that not a single player on BYU has potential?

    Why don't you explain your reasoning in an impartial way.

  • Stringer Bell Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2018 10:35 a.m.

    News Flash : "May I remind you of some other two star or less athletes that played at BYU?
    1. Chad Lewis (Walk on) no star - went on the play in the NFL, was on the Philly team that went to the super bowl, which he was a key part.
    2. Dennis Pitta (Walk on) -He was a Lombardi Award and Biletnikoff Award candidate, and a Mackey Award semifinalist. He went on the be key part of the Baltimore Ravens run to the super bowls.
    3. Jim McMahon - We all know how that well he did...
    4. Steve Young - Well, he was hardly recruited at all..."

    News Flash, here's another news flash. That's another history lesson on people who are grandparents now. If you believe you have any of that caliber today you are seriously uninformed. Today's recruiting is vastly different from that of 30-40 years ago.Today, BYU-P gets the rare quality LDS athletete who had always wanted to go there. Other than that, it appears to be the leftovers. LaVell and the 1970's are long gone.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    July 12, 2018 10:15 a.m.

    "Another Dennis Pitta or Jonny Harline would do just fine."

    In other words - another MWC tight end would do just fine - just sayin.

  • NewsFlash Kearns, UT
    July 12, 2018 9:50 a.m.

    AZUTE1
    "It’s all that 2 star talent generating zero playable depth behind byu’s overall mediocre @ best starters."

    May I remind you of some other two star or less athletes that played at BYU?
    1. Chad Lewis (Walk on) no star - went on the play in the NFL, was on the Philly team that went to the super bowl, which he was a key part.
    2. Dennis Pitta (Walk on) -He was a Lombardi Award and Biletnikoff Award candidate, and a Mackey Award semifinalist. He went on the be key part of the Baltimore Ravens run to the super bowls.
    3. Jim McMahon - We all know how that well he did...
    4. Steve Young - Well, he was hardly recruited at all...

    You see Star ranking has nothing to do with your ability to play college ball. I have seen 5 star athletes flame out, while walk-on's become mega stars on the college scene.

    It is all about the coach system and how well a player fits into that schema and their desire to succeed.

  • stanfunky Salt Lake City, UT
    July 12, 2018 8:00 a.m.

    And the results of Bronco de-emphasizing the TE position have finally come to fruition. It will take a year or two before the depth is back, even if the scheme is better this year for the big guys catching balls over the middle or in the flat.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 12, 2018 7:58 a.m.

    BYU should do its self a favor and drop down to Division II so they can be competitive.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    July 12, 2018 7:19 a.m.

    Yes, but can they give good fireside talks?

    Do they still do those firesides?

  • geocas HYRUM, UT
    July 12, 2018 12:30 a.m.

    I watched Moroni play both basketball and football through his high school days at Mountain Crest. He was not often injured. With his tenacity and athleticism, I believe he will quickly become a reliable blocker and pass catcher this year.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 11, 2018 11:45 p.m.

    “Lack of depth at tight end could be a problem for BYU Cougars”

    It’s all that 2 star talent generating zero playable depth behind byu’s overall mediocre @ best starters.

    A #94 overall ranked recruiting class/annual 2 star recruiting bonanza will do that to you.

    They literally have merely 2-3 solid players on their entire roster, period.

    Go koogs, you rock!

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    July 11, 2018 11:21 p.m.

    The entire BYU team will be much improved from last season and will shock the usual naysayers with no worse than a 7-5 record, plus a bowl game 🤙🏈

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    July 11, 2018 10:43 p.m.

    This is actually the best unit on the team based on continuation from last year.

    Depth could be better, but this is hardly the area that byu lacks the most.

    Great new recruits, and they get 4 games during a redshirt year, and good converted players.

    If bushman stays healthy then all others fill in the other slot, bushman is a threat because he was the only consistent threat last year.

    If tight ends are the squeaky wheel that needs grease then we're doing very well. Let's see the receivers and line and backs in shape - oh yeah, also a quarterback!

  • Cougarbib2 Moorpark, CA
    July 11, 2018 9:59 p.m.

    How quickly we have gone from loaded to lacking depth during the off-season. We have enough tight ends. We apparently just do not have enough really good (complete) tight ends. Defenses can guess run vs pass pretty easily based on which tight end is in.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 11, 2018 9:52 p.m.

    I wish BYU the best. I hope they can compete and stay healthy. They are outmatched athletically in nearly every game this year so my expectations are pretty low...3-9 season. However their coach will get the most from them so perhaps 6-6? At best? Best of luck Y.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    July 11, 2018 7:25 p.m.

    Given that they will probably throw only 2 or 3 passes to the tight end position I don't think depth will be a problem. We face another loosing season this year and maybe worse the following year.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    July 11, 2018 5:55 p.m.

    Depth on the entire team is very weak, actually average FCS level. Also, I cannot think of one really good football player the Y has on their roster. Bushman can catch passes, but even Steve Clark recently said he can't block yet. BYU needs to get some quality D1 players and good coaching very very soon.

  • dbrbmw Orem, UT
    July 11, 2018 4:25 p.m.

    Have Kaufusi play some TE.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    July 11, 2018 4:23 p.m.

    I really hope Tukuafu will make it back this year. He looked fantastic last year in the spring game and he's a big boy. I think Dallin Holker will be fantastic. He just doesn't have the run blocker body. . . . yet.