The far leftist liberals want open borders, which makes a nation a terrible one.
Jenny is toast no matter who, or what she debates.
The best of luck to you Jenny. In Utah as you well know, it's un uphill
battle for you.
Here's Romney's problem. He has been on the national stage since 2008,
making statements about immigration.Like most politicians, his
position has evolved on the subject. Anything he says will result in a quote
from him, claiming that he's waffling.(Don't get me wrong;
Romney can legitimately be accused on flip-flopping.)Trump is
holding Republicans accountable on immigration, something that hasn't
happened since the 2000 campaign, when GWB and Rove campaigned on amnesty.Trump aligns well with the GOP platform. Voters liked that in 2016.Mitt is not there with Trump. Not yet. But Jenny clearly is buying the
narrative in the news these days.Romney has a great deal to lose by
debating Jenny on this topic. He's acquiesced too much already. If his base
stays home, it'll be 2012 all over again.
Language, borders, and culture! Sounds like Mitt is the candidate for me this
time around. Wilson is an open borders supporter and I will not vote for any
candidate holding such a view.
I agree with Romney for the most part here. I don't agree that university
or trade skills should be part of the merit list, though I strongly feel English
fluency is. Langauge learning is more accessible regardless of class or social
status. For a poor family in Mexico who may not be able to access training or
further education, learning English is still very possible. It is also a better
transition skill. Additionally, a person with skills and training in
other countries is likely better off there than those without skills, so it is
more humanistic to focus on language skills than education.Of course
many left wingers will step into the issue naively and create even more
divisiveness and long-term problems, while some of Trump's far-right
supporters will continue to push for a wall, anti-Muslim immigration, and the
threat and practice of dividing families at the border. Romney
should have been listened to when he spoke up about Russia being America's
greatest threat, his fair and equitable immigration policy, and Trump's
poor character before the election.Forgive us all, Mitt. Here's
hoping you can be talked into running in 2020.
What is there to debate? TLhis is not about immigration or immigrants entering
the US, its about the extortion by democrats and other illegal aliens don't
want to obey or laws and have law and order in out cities. The democrats have
nothing to argue, unless they wish to con stipulate defeat and helping Americans
stop the invasion of our country for what it is. An economic destruction of our
lifves and freedoms and pursuit of happiness.Pursuit of happiness is
a right that only legal and actual american citizens are entitled to, everyone
else is a deadly economic threat that should be dealt with with deadly
Romney has advocated passing e-verify and forcing those here illegally to self
deport. She wants amnesty.It's the same old song we have heard
for 30+ years, Democrats want a eighth amnesty (yes eighth) and Romney wants the
@Thomas Thompson "Romney has such a lopsided margin of support that
he'd be very foolish indeed to debate Jenny Wilson ..."Right, why don't we just have one party "sustaining votes?"
Nothing will happen on immigration, EVER! Neither party has the will to do
anything in this country on anything, much less immigration. Congress has become
relegated to a bunch of do nothing folks who only goal is to to snipe at each
other. It's a waste of time discussing the issue anymore.
Democrats will act as a check on President Trump. Jenny Wilson is a Democrat.
Hence I am for Jenny Wilson. Simple logic.
@Red Smith - It's this kind of thinking that makes many, including myself,
are considering going independent. The extremism of many within the democrat and
republican parties is what is dividing the country. Most of us, thankfully, are
still center-right or center-left. But there are more far-right and far-left
today than there have been in decades. To say that someone who is center-right
is not a republican is wrong. You far-righters do not represent the republican
party, yet. If that changes, you will lose a lot of your base. Call me a
"rhino" if you must, but us rhinos are the base, not your self-defined
"true conservatives." The all-or-nothing tribalism mentality of politics
is ridiculous. There are good points from each party, and there are absurd ones.
I can't be all-in with everything either party says, because although each
party thinks they have the moral monopoly, truth is, neither does.
The immigration debate is a boondoggle from minute one. You have the left that
elevates and amplifies the emotion of the issue beyond any reasonable level at
the exclusion of the concepts of justice, sovereignty, and security. Any
mention of this and the wailing intensifies as any reasonable discussion of
actual immigration policy ensues.Good public policy will have
consequences for those who violate it's tenets. We have ignored the rule
of law and created for ourselves a situation where there will be extreme losers
as we attempt to put things back on track. The solution posited by some is to
just ignore justice, sovereignty, and security and avoid any unfairness or harm.
This cannot be. We will destroy our values and society that we have built over
the last two hundred years.I can hear the rebuttals of "But we
are all immigrants" ringing across the cloud. Examine the immigration
policies of the past and you will see that they are far more selective and
exclusionary than that crowd would ever concede. Look at the order imposed.
Look at the adoption of the ideals of the host country. It was mandatory!Today the system is broken. There will be pain to fix it.
Wilson-Democrat wants to debate Romney-Democrat from Michigan and ex-gov of
Massachusetts. What's the point of Dems debating Dems?
HSTucker-"Last night’s low information talking points on Hannity
being regurgitated once again."Re: “That's really
quite funny. You realize that everyone who watched the debate in 2012 saw it
happen live, right? Hannity had nothing to do with it”.Deep
yawn..I’m certain you believe low information is comical. Furthermore.
You’re quite aware the Crowley nonsense has been a Hannity/Faux low
information talking point. You’re welcome!
We all agree with legal immigration. Illegal immigration should be stopped. What
is there left to debate.
"Last night’s low information talking points on Hannity being
regurgitated once again."That's really quite funny. You
realize that everyone who watched the debate in 2012 saw it happen live, right?
Hannity had nothing to do with it.
What kind of a debate would this be when they both agree on the issue? Now that
the primaries are over, Mitt has shaken his etch-a-sketch and is back to being a
big-business, open-borders Koch brother that is pretty much exactly lined up
with Jenny Wilson. The only interesting thing about such a debate
would be the inclusion of a third party candidate that actually has something
different to say about immigration. Utah desperately needs a third party
alternative to the Republi-crat uniparty.
Mitt has been anointed and will serve his corporate and religious masters well
banliberalsandcommonsense- Bountiful, UT “She had better get help
from Sandy Crowley who lied for Obama”!!Yuge Opportunity Here
- Mapleton, UT“It's a Hail Mary. Jenny is looking for a Candy
Crowley Moment here”.Last night’s low information
talking points on Hannity being regurgitated once again.
My plan was to stay home on November 6th. Why leave the house to skip that line
on the ballot altogether?But Jenny Wilson just might motivate me to
go vote...for Mitt!
@water rocketAn act of desperation, you say?It's a Hail
Mary. Jenny is looking for a Candy Crowley Moment here...and Mitt will probably
give her one.This could turn into a pity party. Facial tissues
imprinted with "Vote for Jenny," passed out to the crowd.Both newspapers are pro-amnesty. Romney is walking the globalist tightrope as
it is.If Mitt just keeps his mouth shut, he'll replace Orrin.
The Church will be glad to have him. But Romney can snatch defeat from the jaws
of victory if he isn't careful.One general debate in October is
the correct strategy. By then the border mess will settle down and solutions
will emerge. Right now, it's too hot to touch...just like the Democrats
planned.Keep your head down, Mitt.
She had better get help from Sandy Crowley who lied for Obama!!
Romney has such a lopsided margin of support that he'd be very foolish
indeed to debate Jenny Wilson -- that would only give her more name recognition
and more exposure to the electorate.
Let me see if I got this straight, Jenny Wilson, who has never done anything
outside of Salt Lake County, is challenging Mitt Romney, a former governor,
leader of the Winter Olympics, former Presidential nominee, and organizer of an
international corporation to a debate on immigration? This appears to be an act
of desperation to me.