Former presidential candidate cruises in primary in bid for Hatch's seat
What's with this "doesn't live here crap. If that's the only
thing that's buggin you from supporting a candidate that wants the best for
Utah and has a conservative platform then what's the big deal? Also,
it's easy to condemn a persons track record when all you have to do is say
that yes, I don't have a track record but by darn, my track record, if
elected will be perfect and unpickable apartable...lol
While I was disappointed I was hardly surprised. Utahns always seem to choose
the wrong guy.It's not that the politically active are out of
touch with the voters, it's that the voters are too lazy to attend
political meetings or check out the candidates. If we had that kind of voter I
believe Mr Kennedy would have done much better.We now have another
'conservative' that doesn't live here in Utah, although I have no
doubt he has a mansion here as well as elsewhere. We have a man that did not
stand up for the rights of the unborn when it really counted and who organized
socialized medicine.One thing I like about Romney is that he stated
that China needs to be challenged in international trading, just like Mr Trump
in fact, which is why I could never understand his hatred for the President.Ah well! I will stand by GR's election win as I stood by
DJT's, but with far less enthusiasm. May he do good.
BYUalum says:"President Trump needs to have unity in his
party's leaders. I congratulate Romney and hope he will give his support to
the President and not be a maverick and attention seeker as we see in our
neighbor state of Arizona. "Exactly. When you have an ego like
donalds, there is only room for 1 attention seeker. BigAlAvenger
says:"Utah has probably put another McCain in the
Senate."No. McCain was a war hero. Romney, like the donald,
never served but claimed the thing they would have done anyway (mission for
romney, avoiding std's for donald*) was their 'service'. We can
only hope that Romney has the nerve to be another McCain. *His
words. Look it up.
Utah has probably put another McCain in the Senate.
Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CARomney not a resident of Utah? Please
inform yourself on any state's residency requirements and Romney's
compliance with Utah's requirements.
@Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CA - from what I have read is that Romney has
listed his legal residence in Utah now for 10 years. That doesn't mean he
doesn't have residences other places. But if that is where he pays tax,
has his drivers license out of, is registered to vote... that pretty much makes
you a resident of that state.What is that you think makes someone a
resident of a state.... ?
Republican insiders voted 49% for Romney and Republican voters gave him 73%.
It's a good example of leadership not in contact with the voters.
RiDal -said:"Very odd outcome. I don't know ANY Republicans
who voted for Romney. I wonder if there was crossover voting from
Democrats?"Here is an example of exactly what I was talking
about. People who only talk to other extremists and then wonder why Romney
destroyed Kennedy. You should get out from in front of faux news. Go
outside. See the sun. And meet your neighbors for a change. And
because you dont seem to know this simple fact, Democrats (or independents) are
not allowed to vote in the republican primary (but they still are forced to pay
I love the out-of-touch far-right wingers with their "wha-wha-what
happened" whining this morning. They are so out of touch with reality they
actually thought they would defeat Mitt Romney. LOL It is time to
take back the party of Lincoln from the far-right cuckoo birds that are
hijacking the Republican party. Speaking of out of touch,
Kennedy's apology to a well known, big-time bigot (Rev.) Jeffress was the
nail in his coffin. What was he thinking???
@RiDal,You don't know a single Republican who voted for Romney
even though he won the primary by a 3-1 margin? Good grief, man. You
obviously live an extremely sheltered existence and have chosen to cut yourself
off from people who disagree with you. You would be well-served by changing your
habits so that you are able to interact with those who have even a slight
difference in opinion and outlook.
@Lia - Sandy, UTJune 27, 2018 9:17 a.m.He was born in
Michigan, lived in and was governor of Massachusetts, lived in Utah since 2013
where he owns two homes. He does not stay in a hotel here - no need to.But it doesn't matter where he's lived in the past, he lives here
now, and is a transplant like many others who now live in Utah.
I would like to congratulate Mitt Romney and John Curtis they will represent
Utah and every one in this state well. This shows that the caucus system is
wrong. When people of this state are allowed to choose they select the best
candidates. Get rid of this stupid caucus system if the caucus had its way these
wonderful people would not have been on the ballot. Obama Care and Romney Card
are not the same. Romney was finding ways to save the people of Massachusetts
money and still give them health care he did not spend countless billion on his
program He cut the budget he did not increase it. He was a wonderful governor
for all of the people of Massachusetts.Mr. Romney and Mr. Curtis represent
all of the people of Utah not some right wing elite caucus group. I am so happy
Very odd outcome. I don't know ANY Republicans who voted for Romney. I
wonder if there was crossover voting from Democrats? Romney will
still now probably win, but conservative enthusiasm and turnout has been heavily
Way to go Mitt, I mean Senator elect Romney. Yes I will call the November race
now. You and Senator Lee will rep us well in Washington. I don’t care if
you don’t live in Utah. It happens all over the country. Hilary
didn’t live in NY until she decided to run.
"There are residents of 49 other states who will be glad to see Mitt Romney
going to Washington. I'm a Democrat, and I'm one of them."Yes, I expect Democrats all over the country will be pleased to see Mitt
Romney representing Utah.
"At the convention, Kennedy positioned himself as David to Romney's
Goliath, even passing out foam stones to his supporters. It was enough for him
to emerge as the conservative alternative to Romney among the dozen Republicans
in the race"This is gross negligence in reporting and should be
retracted ASAP. I was there and Dr. Kennedy made it very clear that his analogy
had nothing to do with Romney. In his analogy, Dr. Kennedy was the stone, and
the Federal Government was Goliath.Please take your responsibility
as a news outlet seriously. People might actually think what you are saying is
accurate from time to time.
@ marxist - Salt Lake City, UT - June 27, 2018 6:38 a.m. - "Romney told the
Deseret News the day he launched his campaign that he is with Trump's
domestic policy agenda to lower taxes, ..." The CBO says Trump's tax
cut is sending Federal debt creation into the stratosphere. How will Romney
comment?"My comment: You're going to need more
"facts" than that to convince anyone what you claim is true: names,
dates, articles, dollar figures, the background info on who supposedly said it
and why. You know, "facts".
Proving once again that convention delegates as a whole do not come close to
representing the electorate. Kennedy beat Romney at the GOP convention, then had
his hat handed to him in the primary. The caucus/convention system is dead. The
sooner everyone realizes it, the more time and money they can save.
@one vote - Salt Lake City, UTJune 27, 2018 7:28 a.m."Isn't
he from Massachusetts?"Yes..He will get a PO Box here, like
Hatch, who is ALSO not a Utahn, so that everyone thinks he lives here.When he DOES visit, he stays at a nice hotel.
imsmarterthanyou - you said "Well this is another sad day for the people of
Utah, looks like we are getting at least 2 more years of the same thing
we've been sick & tired of for years."You do know
Senate seats are for 6 years - right? Unless something else is happening in 2
"Isn't he from Massachusetts?"No.... but nice try. By
the way, Hatch wasn't from Utah either. Lots of politicians run in states
and areas where thy weren't born. Is that some kind of new litmus test?
Can only run where you they were born?
Although a Senator is elected to represent a single state, the greatest among
them realize the opportunity...even the obligation...to serve the entire nation
as well. Mitt Romney has both this opportunity, and obligation: At a time
when Democrats have little influence, and many other Republicans have
demonstrated little courage, Mitt can be a voice for both common sense and
common decency in Washington...a one man check and balance on the current
President. There are residents of 49 other states who will be glad to see
Mitt Romney going to Washington. I'm a Democrat, and I'm one of them.
You know what is ironic? When the uber right thinks its crazy ideas are
mainstream because they only ever talk to other people on the uber right. That
is what the caucus system 'does' for Utah. It elects the fringe
candidate and ignores the actual will of the people. But it is funny
to watch the uber right complain now. Good luck to Mitt. I sure hope
he doesnt bow down to the worst president we have or will ever elect like the
rest of the GOP.
There is a false concept in political science that those who do not go to the
ppolls to vote are lazy or simply disinterested.But there is a group
that deliberately stay home rather than choose between Jenny or Mitt.The algorithms miss these people altogether, especially if they miss a few
elections.But they are a vibrant cadre of swing voters. They gave
Trump the victory. They came from BOTH parties.U-UP and No Labels
don't appeal to them. Such campaigns are just a mash-up of outliers from
both parties.Those who predicted the Trump victory included this
group in their models. They were right.The Utah GOP in particular
needs to understand this truth. So far, I am not hopeful.
I hope Romney keeps calling out Trump on his terrible actions.
Lots of whining and crying in the comments here.I am personally very
relieved.Now Mitt, just don't let us down.
Isn't he from Massachusetts?
I voted for Kennedy yesterday knowing he did not have a chance. I have Romney
fatigue. I voted for him twice in the past. When he failed to defend himself in
the face of negative campaigns against him, I personally felt he cracked under
political pressures. Remember, his Romneycare in Massachusetts was the blueprint
for Obamacare. That being said, I will hold my nose and vote for him again in
the general election. What other option is out there?
Perhaps if Romney had been more aggressive spending money in the final weeks of
the 2012 campaign against Obama, 4 years of presidential radicalism could have
been avoided. Seems a tad unfair that $1million dollars in presidential
campaign donations could be used for a local election.
President Trump needs to have unity in his party's leaders. I congratulate
Romney and hope he will give his support to the President and not be a maverick
and attention seeker as we see in our neighbor state of Arizona. God
Jennie should concede now and save a lot of money.
I heard them say, "we got him", the caucus system will win again since
we have forced a Primary and our man will win. As in every other thing, it has
always been may the best man/woman win. But in the caucus system it is our man
or woman since as a caucus and even though we are a few, very few, the people
will follow our lead. It was not to be and Romney earned this and I know his
family, his parents and Byron Hansen must be very proud.
"Romney told the Deseret News the day he launched his campaign that he is
with Trump's domestic policy agenda to lower taxes, ..."The
CBO says Trump's tax cut is sending Federal debt creation into the
stratosphere. How will Romney comment?
Abolish the caucus! It has tarnished utah! Come on people....beware of the
My question now is how many of these "true conservative" Kennedy
supporters will now turn their support to Romney? I appears that the "true
Republicans" have spoken.
Well this is another sad day for the people of Utah, looks like we are getting
at least 2 more years of the same thing we've been sick & tired of for
years. I voted for Kennedy and now I have no other choice but to vote in Romney.
I really would have liked someone new who has the same values as me. Romney
values what will make him popular no matter what that is. I has sided with the
democrat on more than one occasion and I don't believe he will be a good
support to president Trump, who had my vote and will again. Best president in
over 100 years!
I agree 1000% with those that have once again brought to light the disparity
between what the delegates and the Caucus systems produce as candidates and
those who the public feels best represents them. It is once again clear that the
GOP is out of step with the wishes of the public by continuing to push
ultra-conservative candidates."Count My Vote" was the one
ray of light that would have provided a more open process to the ballot for many
who wish to serve the community in which they live. However thanks to the
efforts of the Ult-right and the support of the Utah GOP, who only wants to
maintain power and control by the lobbyists and power brokers, we do not have
that option this year.I sincerely hope that "Count My Vote"
will continue to fight for the rights of the people and help bring good
reasonable candidates to office.
A good number of voters I know register Republican so they can vote in that
closed primary, but they are really independents.I think the
independents elected Romney. The arch-conservatives turned out en masse for
Kennedy, and there still weren't enough of them to make a dent. As for me, I didn't get to vote in the Republicans' little private
election because I won't play the registration game--even though they run
their club elections on my tax dime.
Utah is really going to regret this choice. Mitt is interested only in
what's best for Mitt.
The big government establishment movement, AKA the swamp that needs draining
just keep on getting re-cluttered by the extreme tunnel visioned rightists or
leftists in both parties. The young smart generation needs to step up and
dethrone the career politicians.
Romney already proved he does NOT have the ability to make America great again.
He’s too weak, too flip- floppy and was steam-rolled by Trump when Romney
proved to be unequal to our president. Get the next Olympic Games, Mitt. You
are good at that!
I have hated the caucus system since I moved up here from California. I feel
that everyone should have the chance to vote for who they want to represent them
back in DC. I did not want Romney at all. Yet I voted for him because I did not
really know anything about Kennedy. I tried to listen to him on the radio and
was not impressed at all. Just like the Presidential election I voted for Trump
because there was no way I was going to vote for Hilary. Today I felt the same
way. I agree that something has to be done about the caucus system we need to go
back the way that it use to be years ago. Allow those who want to run have a
Primary and the one with the most votes goes up against the Democrat. Not the
way that this has been.
Once again convention delegates prove how out of touch they are with voters. The sooner we can get rid of the caucus system, the better. Good riddance!Get Educated
There are more than 700,000 registered Republicans in the state (about 47% of
all registered voters).Probably just over 300,000 of those
registered Republicans voted in the primaries (about 45% of them, or 20% of the
entire state).80% of registered voters did not or were not allowed
to participate in the primary.It looks like Romney will get about
72% of that total vote (just over 14% of Utah's registered voters supported
him in the primary) while about 28% will have supported Kennedy in that election
(less than 6% of our total registered voters).It doesn't seem
to me that this is the most representative way to choose those who represent our
Kennedy won the convention 51/49% but in the primary Romney won 73% of the vote.
What more proof do we need that the convention process gives too much power to
the more radical zealots in the party.
A Senator is elected by only one state, but many Americans look to the finest
Senators to stand up for the best interests of all Americans, not only those in
the state from which they were elected.Mitt Romney displayed rare courage
speaking out against the excesses of Donald Trump during the 2016 primaries.
Now, at a time when Democrats have no power or influence, and many Republicans
are too timid to admit the continuing excesses of this President, Mitt Romney
has the opportunity to be a voice for common sense and common decency in
Washington. Hopefully he will use this platform.
It is a sad state of Utah politics . I hope the next generation is smart enough
to fall for Utah norm. It will take some time but I believe we will turn an
Thank you for mentioning the other candidates in the race. Hopefully we can
start to hear more about their positions and news about each as we continue into
the general election. This is a conversation, not a coronation.
Thomas nailed it. Anyone and everyone knew Romney would win a primary. The
current system is designed to make sure only a few ultra conservatives are
represented. Tick tock the game is locked. Fortunately, there were enough
Romney supporters at the caucuses to force the primary that the whole world knew
would be won by Romney and by a huge margin. Thankfully. Time to get rid of the
current caucus system.
Question: How do you become a senator for a state you're not a resident of?
Hillary Clinton did it in New York, and now Romney? Seriously, how is this
This is definitely proof that the Caucus/Convention system doesn’t
represent the voice of the GOP party members. Delegates consistently vote
against the will of the the voters they pretend to represent.Thankfully,
we have a system that addresses the caucus system shortcomings.GOP
Leaders, listen to the registered party members. Either fix the caucus system or
give it up!
Voted for Kennedy, in all honest to goodness I don't know why we're
sending a non-Utahn to DC. The guy who for all intents and purposes wasn't
supposed to lose 2012, all he had to do was be aggressive against Obama. But he
chooses to be aggressive against Trump who honored Utah by giving us back our
lands that Obama grabbed. I wasn't a big Trump supporter, but heck
he's done more for UT than any President in modern American history. Now
we're putting in a liberal MA former Governor who gave us Obamacare, yes I
said it, Obamacare was fashioned after Romney care and ya'll gonna hate,
but do some homework and tell me it ain't so. Anyways, just thought
I'd get my 2 cent in there, that I'm not too happy about Romney.
You've got to wonder about those who claimed Romney wasn't Utahan
enough, wasn't conservative enough - ney - a RINO - when they realize that
3 out of 4 Utahans disagree, and think Romney is conservative enough for them.
Well, of course. How could it be otherwise. This is Utah, so predictable.