Clinton man charged with threatening police had 'arsenal,' warrant states

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  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 26, 2018 6:42 a.m.

    But he still has the guns, right?

    The idea that there are some people out there who will actually stand up and claim that because there was no harm done -- this time -- that this man should be allowed to keep his guns is absolutely frightening.

    But it goes a long way toward explaining why we have such a mess on our hands and why we absolutely MUST find a way to stand up to the NRA and protect our fellow citizens with some common sense restrictions on gun ownership.

  • FelisConcolor Layton, UT
    June 25, 2018 7:32 p.m.

    "Some of the items seized from Lindley's house included a Thompson semi-automatic carbine, a 50-round drum for a Thompson submachine gun, two Ruger pistols, gun magazines and ammunition...."

    LOL, wut?

    This...this is an "arsenal"? A semi-automatic rifle, two pistols, some magazines, and ammunition?

    (A "50-round drum for a...submachine gun" sounds scary, but it's just a type of magazine that does nothing on its own).

    When I read the word "arsenal", I had visions of dozens of firearms and small mounds of ammunition scattered throughout the room.

    But three guns? I would bet at least 50% of Utah's gun owners have more weapons than that in their homes.

    If the police are now declaring three guns to be an "arsenal", then Utah gun owners should be very, very careful about voluntarily disclosing information about their firearm collections to the police. It might trigger a SWAT raid if the cops deem you have "too many" guns.

  • call_me_ishmael Roy, UT
    June 25, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    I am happy that nobody got hurt. Bipolar Disorder is a very complex but treatable disease. I hope that Wayne is able to get the proper treatment.

    Kudos to law enforcement for managing this situation such that nobody was hurt.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 25, 2018 12:45 p.m.

    @DN Subscriber

    "It's not the guns, it's the crazy or evil people."

    Why do the pro-gun folks always make it a black-or-white, either/or issue? It's both!

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2018 11:47 a.m.

    "It was later learned that Wayne had recently been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and it was not known if he was taking his medication," according to a Davis County Jail booking report.

    Bipolar disorder is a serious mental illness, and this guy is clearly a danger to himself or others. Has he been adjudicated as mentally ill which would legally prohibit him from purchase or possession of any gun, and allow all guns to be taken away from him?

    Some might claim that bipolar is a minor problem and if meds are taken the individual will behave in normal ways. However, courts have ruled they cannot be forced to take meds and therefore can behave erratically at almost any time. Are these advocates for the mentally ill willing to risk this guy shooting a bunch of cops, just to protect the right of mentally ill people to avoid being stigmatized by adjudication as mentally ill which would keep them from getting guns?

    We talk a lot about gun control, but are reluctant to actually enforce the laws we already have.
    Even without a trial or conviction, this guy should be adjudicated today based on his actions.

    It's not the guns, it's the crazy or evil people.