Vigil attendees call on U.S. leaders to enact 'just and humane' immigration laws
@Romney,There you go again...I never claimed everyone crossing the
border is an Asylum seeker. You assumed I did. But I am citing the fact that
most of the people separated the last 2 weeks from children were asylum seekers
and these are the ones I'm talking about. These people are fleeing violence
in their home country in C. America. They're not the drug runners or
rapists - they're the ones escaping those threats. We had
well-established laws for welcoming asylum seekers, until Trump and Sessions on
6-11 changed the policy and said they would separate children from parents and
treat all as criminals. Now Trump wants to kill all due process and effectively
say 'No Asylum in the USA'. The options they have left require
sometimes years of waiting. There are laws for law-abiding citizens
to apply for asylum. Other countries have these procedures as well and there
are internationally agreed laws for assisting those in danger. Furthermore,
keeping families together ensures their success and these are not the people
causing crime. Putting children in foster care is the fastest way to make them
welfare-dependent and turn to crime.
Jen Johnson said Sunday, Without a doubt the images, and the reality, from 2014,
just like 2018, are not pretty,” Johnson said. “And so we expanded
family detention. We had then 34,000 beds for family detention. Only 95 of
34,000 equipped to deal with families. And so we expanded it. I freely admit it
was controversial. We believed it was necessary at the time. I still believe it
is necessary to remain a certain capability for families.”Johnson then repeated a contention he has repeated before, that we
“can’t have catch and release.”Obama did it
too.........and both Trump and Obama did the right thing! Send them home and
come back legal!
They say when tragedy happens the True human spirit shines I truly believe that
but what they dont tell you is tragedy brings forth cowardice, repugnance,
& malevolence ."Obey the Law" So did George Washington,
Andrew Jackson, Ben Franklin, San Adams "obey the law" Do you not even
know what the Boston Tea Party was abut ?Did you Obey Native
American law and agree to all the treaties or did you Break the law and take
this land form the Indians ? Cause if you did Caucasians are not native to this
land. Know your history this land is not your it belong to the Native Americans
and now you think you have some kind of entitlement cause you stole land....
I agree with DN Subscriber. Build the wall. Keep our nation safe!These kind of articles boost the illegal entry into our country. We have laws.
If you want to come to this country, come legally. We cannot fix all the
worlds' problems with an "open door" policy. I'm
grateful for President Trump's stand for building the wall.
1covey:“Where were these people when Obama started the same policies
Trump is following, why the sudden hyperpartisan rhetoric and demands
now?”Your source?The facts:A majority of
those crossing the border during Obama’s tenure went through a civil
deportation process—not automatically charged with a criminal violation as
Trump is doing. Obama prioritized criminal prosecution for those engaged in
crime or gangs— not for mothers and children whose only
“crime” was crossing the border. Criminal charges result in
children being separated from their parents. There is no/zero evidence that
Obama routinely or even mostly separated children from family members as Trump
is doing now. (However, there are children/minors who are separated
from families because they crossed the border alone—they are classified as
I just returned from Europe. It would be interesting to ask European citizens
how they feel about all the "refugees" in the country. I'm putting
refugees into quotes, because many are economic refugees, not political. You
will notice it is very different from what their governments feel.
We all need to show compassion and find solutions to keep families together -
whether they are separated by economics, divorce, or at the border. We are all
children of God.
Utah- You knew what you were getting when you voted for trump and you did it
anyway. Yhe campassion dwindles as you look pack on it through the rear view
@hobblecreek - CA, 00I feel bad for the kids who's parent goes to
jail too, and we should. People who commit crimes shouldn't blame anyone
else but themselves, thoughts become actions. They are our citizens.(the ones
who are legal, or have a green card) I distrust any media portrayal of any
current event because of their explicit bias ( who is funding them, and who they
desire to pander to)
@eastcoastcoug - Danbury, CTYou have to be joking right? You say not to
paint a broad brush, yet you claim all crossing illegally are asylum seekers?
Please go vote for Obama again. I am willing to bet you didn't care that
this was happening in 2014? Oh wait, I guess that doesn't fit the agenda.
" Jones said. "She was judged. Thirty-one years later, she still feels
judged."Well, if she is judged because of what she looks like,
thats one thing. If she tells her story and is judged that is another.Why don't people just come out and say it "I want open borders, I
don't care about laws""Those laws must be both just and
humane."Yes, you don't know what the law means! I will justly,
and humanly ask you to leave. No free passes. Look at those go go the legal
route. Is it fair to them. Not at all. And if you try to say it is you are being
disingenuous. Last of all, this entire article is a terrible
argument from emotion. If you just let yourself go on just emotion, not the
other two, ethos, and logos, you have the makings of a terrible article.
My comments were truly sarcastic. I can’t comprehend lack of compassion
for any human being. That includes the heartbreak for any child separated from
their families because of actions taken by their parents.,including those in
jail. Distressed by the attitude of people who justify wrong with wrong.
We all want a humane and caring approach to this mess but the bottom line is
that if people are oppressed elsewhere, they need to enter the United States
LEGALLY!If they are oppressed in El Salvador or Guatemala for
example, why don't those people seek assylum in Mexico or Brazil or
Columbia? There is more to the story than we are hearing from these
"opressed" people. Might much of it have to do with the economic
possibilities that exist by sneaking into America?Let all of you who
are so concerned about the welfare of these needful immigrants lobby all the
other surrounding nations in Latin America to step up to the plate and allow the
immigrants to enter into their lands too.Let us have a nation of law
and order and an orderly and legal way for a reasonable number oppressed
immigrants to enter this country. But let us say no to numberless immigrants
who want to disobey our laws and enter here illegally - that is simply wrong.
I’m a Utahn and my compassion is with Americans. This wouldn’t
happen if they stayed in their own country.
America has just and humane immigration laws in place.. probably the most humane
in the world... these people want open borders.... it’s a masquerade
hiding their flawed agenda
@DNews Sub.These people ARE obeying the laws - US and int'l
laws set out that prescribe how a person can apply for Asylum. While many of
them were en route, Sessions on 6-11 eliminated fleeing gang violence as a
condition. Then the Trump Admins. decided to separate children from parents as a
tactic and we end up with parents being separated from parents and being sent
all over the country (and who helps get them back?)As a lifelong
Conservative voter this latest act was not only inhumane, it was impractical and
doesn't address the heart of what Trumpista's want - safety and sane
immigration. Most asylum and refugee cases are already rejected. Those that are
legit and intact families, should be continued and these families have a high
rate of success and low criminality when they stay intact. I suggest
reading USCIS sites and others to get better informed and stop painting these
people with a broad, ignorant brush (both Fox and MSNBC). Trump and Sessions
created a huge, misinformed mess.And compassion does matter. As you
head off to your ward today, think about 'What if their story were my
story?' and why the LDS Church thought it necessary to make their
Over 2.7 million American children have parents in jail. It happens when people
@dn Glad you got in the blame Obama and the left. Trump is
blameless. He does no wrong. Everything he says is factual, everything he does
is for the sake of everyone but himself. What a compassionate, outstanding
patriot full of integrity, honesty and faith. Laws are laws and he would never
even think to break one ever. Think how great America will be when we have
stopped all countries from taking advantage of us. When we can finally stop
immigrants from infesting our country by walking through our unsecured borders.
Oh how great we will be then.
The headline could more accurately read 'Some Utahns. . . ' or,
perhaps, 'A Few Utahns. . .' To place all Utahns as
"grieving" about this is extremely misleading. But, then, perhaps that
was the intent?
President Trump has stopped the practice originated by his predecessors
separating children from their families by using and creating new holding
facilities for those crossing the border illegally. And people are still
complaining about separating children from their families. A national magazine
had a photo which turned out to be fake. As pointed out in a previous comment,
not all children previously detained were accompanied by a family member when
they were apprehended for illegal entry into this country; that clearly poses a
threat for such children and the separating in those cases was good. And how do
you know which situation applies, until you investigate ?
There is no country that I can move to without following the rules including
ours and that is the way it should be. Prior people that have came here came
because they wanted to be American, they wanted to learn English, they wanted to
fit in. That is not how some today act.When people come illegally
give them a shower, a meal a place for the night and then send them home.
Follow the rules.
It's popular to be compassionate and want to make things easy for
everybody.But, the most compassionate thing people can do is to obey
the laws, and if they want to come to the U.S. we have immigration laws which
allow that, with set procedures and restrictions.The one lady's
mother came here illegally, and by the dates was recipient of amnesty under the
Simpson-Mazolli act which granted amnesty and promised to secure the border,
which Congress never did.Another lady was brought here illegally as
a child.Families are NOT separated if they do not enter the U.S.
illegally. Get that message out to potential immigrants. If families
sneak across the border they should not be separated, but should all be returned
home immediately.Immigration into the U.S. is a generous privilege
granted to a limited number of people, not something which is an entitlement for
every person living outside our borders.Where were these people when
Obama started the same policies Trump is following, why the sudden hyperpartisan
rhetoric and demands now?This is more about politics of the left
than about fixing our broken immigration rules.Build the wall!