Rep. Mia Love pushing bill to end 'horrible' separation of families at border

LDS Church, Catholic Diocese call for compassion, 'swift action'

Return To Article
Add a comment
  • Rebel ,
    June 22, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    Mia should go home and care for her own children. We certainly don't need anymore illegals in this country.

  • Peter1 North Salt Lake, UT
    June 20, 2018 8:54 a.m.

    Mia did a fund raiser with Paul Ryan only 5 donors showed up. She has to do something because even the speaker of the house could not bring interest to her.

  • 100MillionDead RU, 00
    June 20, 2018 8:38 a.m.

    80% of asylum seekers have illegally submitted their application. It is well documented that even of the remaining 20% many make up stories. The system is clearly being abused, and needs to be temporarily suspended.

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    June 20, 2018 12:49 a.m.

    the "immigrants" know there is a very real possibility this can happen. They chose to ignore the laws.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 19, 2018 3:48 p.m.

    To hear the Secretary of State and Ambassador to the United Nations are withdrawing our country from the Human Rights Council is an abomination to mankind and to our country.

    Nikki Haley is not that far away from the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. She is a coward for us.

    I am grateful for my 12th great-grandfather Massasoit a Native American Chief for accepting my 12 relatives that were part of the Mayflower immigration from Europe to the Americas. It was a beneficial relationship as Massasoit got sick later on and the Pilgrims had some medication to helped him recover for years more.

    I am grateful for our Founding Fathers and other relatives that helped form our country.

    I am grateful for Fathers Dominguez and Escalante that departed Santa Fe in July 1776 and trying to get to Monterrey, California.

    I am grateful for so many blessings that deal with emigrants/immigrants and with many explorers that were fulfilling their desires to find a better place for so many people reasons.

    There is no one in our country that is not an immigrant. I believe even President Trump and his wife have parents or themselves that emigrated to the United States of America.

  • rdean92 Los Angeles, CA
    June 19, 2018 2:32 p.m.

    Hey @Sanefan - Where did you get your info, it must have been made up.

    There is no federal law mandating children and parents be separated at the border; a policy resulting in that outcome was enacted in May 2018 by Trump.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 19, 2018 12:57 p.m.

    Ms. Love seems horribly out of touch.

    🤔

  • lorigrad Logan, UT
    June 19, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    Mr. Trump should be ashamed. How can he sleep at night attacking the youngest people on the Earth? Children need parents and should not need to see their parents ripped from them. Maybe Trump should have his children taken from him to understand.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    June 19, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    Hey Jurney and all you other either misinformed or disingenuous liberals. This law was passed by Clinton, suspended by Bush and reinstated by Obama. The pix you see on social media and the news are mostly from 2012 to 2014. That was Prime Time Obama! Unfortunately, Trump got left with a huge mess by the Obama administration, this being only one item. Trump is not using children to advance his agenda, he is following laws the Dems put on the books. Sadly, it's parents and cartels that are using children to gain illegal access to the US and liberals who are using it to attack Trump. Let's start putting the responsibility where it belongs and stop with the political indignation an issue that the liberals created in the first place.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 19, 2018 12:17 p.m.

    Why are children born?

    Why do they come to earth?

    Most don’t get born in freedom living countries and to a country that has political and religious freedoms as the United States of America.

    There are many despotic governments around the world. Attempts have been made by the United States of America at various times to assist other nations gain similar freedoms through documents and setting examples.

    Some will say the US Constitution is from God. However, the Constitution by itself does grant the inalienable rights. It takes patriots to establish God’s will. Not just patriots but good men and women including families that espouse the truth and right, law and order.

    Not all leaders in our country have the citizen’s hearts and souls in mind. Some are egotistical and selfish. We can see it in their nature as a candidate and as an office holder through administrative actions.

    Some subvert Congress and attempt to through the Supreme Court and lower courts.

    Citizens need to act in their conscience.

  • Lone Eagle Aurora, CO
    June 19, 2018 11:58 a.m.

    And is Ms. Love decrying child protective services when they take children away from families for specious, unwarranted reasons? It happens.

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    June 19, 2018 11:27 a.m.

    "You can see these children, these innocent children, being ripped from their families. It's absolutely terrible."

    They are not being "ripped" apart, they are being separated. They knew what would happen if they came here illegally. This is the fault of the parents, not the U.S.

    "Rep. Chris Stewart, R-Utah, said he wants to add his own amendment to the bill, to allow for ankle monitors to be put on parents trying to get into the U.S. who don't want to be separated from their children."

    Sure, add to the expense and I'm sure none of the illegal would remove the ankle monitors because they are law abiding citizens.

    They can stay together if they go back to their own country.

    "Bishop Solis of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops... in not only on separating families but also denying asylum to domestic violence victims."

    Refugee status for domestic violence would allow about 1/3 of people in the world to come here. Why are Hispanics an exception in the eyes of the Bishop?

    The U.S. is not the welfare program for the rest of the world.

  • Mayfair Logan, UT
    June 19, 2018 10:07 a.m.

    Mayfair - Logan, UT
    June 18, 2018 3:49 p.m.
    eastcoastcoug said "Just when I thought I couldn't be more ashamed of some of my brothers and sisters in the GOP, along comes this. And some of you people were in church yesterday...."

    I sooo agree.

    I am appalled that some fellow LDS who are GOP have always supported this kind of thing and have spoken with such disgust of those from Latin countries.

    Its embarrassing.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 10:06 a.m.

    Separation is only because kids are being brought here. No separation if illegals stay home. Abuse is families, parents and traffickers.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 19, 2018 9:58 a.m.

    Third try - There is no difference I can discern in Love's position on illegal immigration versus McAdams. What I was implying in my earlier comment is that many who previously voted for her (such as yours truly) will not vote for her again. I certainly won't vote for McAdams, but there are other parties running candidates.

    How many votes does she gain by her present position on illegal immigration and false claims of refugee status, compared to how many votes she is losing because of her very liberal position here? My belief is that she loses substantially from her core voters and gains a few, marginally, from liberals and others.

    At least people know that McAdams is a absolute liberal and life-long politician who throws money at problems, but doesn't solve them. Love seems to have been elected under false pretenses of being a conservative, based on current events. She probably will come out and say, like McAdams, that she won't support Pelosi for speaker either. LOL

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 9:55 a.m.

    @RomneyiswrongforUtah:

    You say you have no compassion for those who break the law, but can't you wrestle up a bit of compassion for children who aren't even aware that there ARE laws? It's brutal to punish children like this.

  • toshi1066 OGDEN, UT
    June 19, 2018 9:49 a.m.

    Amazing what happens when reelection looms close and constituents get noisy.

    I don't believe for a moment that she cares for those kids, she cares about herself.

  • Romneyiswrongforutah Sandy, UT
    June 19, 2018 9:20 a.m.

    I have no compassion for those willing to break federal law. Question. When a citizen goes to jail is he separated from his family?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 19, 2018 8:59 a.m.

    Mia Love stood in the Presidential news palace next to the President and waiting for the President on live television to get publicity. She was there smiling and taking advantage of the moment.

    She showed up untimely to state and county conventions as no one was running against her on the Republican side.

    She risks the President’s wrath as Senator Flake received.

    Integrity doesn’t rise and go down like a roller coaster it is to be firm as the iron rod.

    However, Senator Hatch has left a legacy by bearing his testimony that President Trump is the “Best President Ever”. He is Utah’s Standard Bearer. It is pretty hard for the other 5 elected members of US Congress, House and Senate, to stand up against a tenured and Senior Senator from Utah.

    Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are more persuasive in Utah than the many religious institutions.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 19, 2018 8:51 a.m.

    More phony outrage!

    Another anti-Trump tactic.

    Really disgusting!

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2018 8:43 a.m.

    Good for Mia.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 19, 2018 8:35 a.m.

    @at long last.
    Will this cost Mia the election? Only if Ben McAdams calls her on this question. The chance of that is nil. He's all in for open borders and amnesty.

    Mia can be bold like Luis Gutierrez can be bold; they have no political risk in doing so.

    The Utah GOP could primary her in two years, but that isn't likely. Besides being dysfunctional, the Utah GOP thinks the Church wants them to act as globalists. They are probably correct.

    Mia fits the mold very well.

    If McAdams wins, this won't be due to his stand on immigration.

    It's sad really. Border policy is the ultimate expression of property rights. An open border is decidedly socialist. It's as simple as that.

  • Gregory American Fork, UT
    June 19, 2018 8:23 a.m.

    Congress should have handled our border problems long ago.
    Mia, you are included in this accusation. As you have suggested,
    get going and get this done now.
    What a sad bunch our elected officials in Washington have become.
    Many with life-time salaries have allowed themselves to grow
    complacent about the business of governance.

  • Applelovernow Henderson, NV
    June 19, 2018 8:01 a.m.

    This is an issue that tears at our moral fiber as to who we are as a people. There are so many comments from people who have not educated themselves on the facts it’s shameful.

    Thank you Ms. Love for the press release, but you and the rest of Congress need to step it up. This is an humanitarian crisis that needs immediate attention.
    The roots of this goes back decades and congress’s refusal to take up fair and just immigration reform. My response to you and the rest of Congress is to fix it and it is going to take all of you together to push new legislation or it will be vetoed by our President.

  • kreese Ivins, UT
    June 19, 2018 7:55 a.m.

    If you want Utah and the rest of America to look like California and Europe, then just open up the borders.

    When I was a kid, the democrats ran against Hoover for twenty years after he left office, next, Nixon was blamed for all of the problems, then Bush. Now, I guess it's Trump's turn.

    The republicans aren't blameless, but except for two years when the republicans controlled the senate, the democrats controlled both houses of Congress from 1954 to 1994, and again during Obama's first term. And we're going to blame all of this on Trump?

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 19, 2018 7:34 a.m.

    I think it is likely that Mia Love will look back on this moment as to when she lost the election.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    June 19, 2018 7:26 a.m.

    "@RichardB: You said - "Please look up the ATEP (Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) under Obama. He did the same thing, and nothing was said by you or the Press."

    Yet another demonstration of the well-known leftist double standard."

    And yet another example of fake news..... in 2014 when that policy was put into place, there was an uproar about it. It's that the media was still too obsessed with whether Obama was an Kenyan, or how high is grades really were at Harvard that over shadowed the issue. Look at Fox's headline today..... lead story is they are still looking at Comey and his leaked memo.

    It was in the press.... Obama did take heat for it. You just either choose media that ignored it, or you ignored it.

    And good for Mia for taking a stand proclaiming this not a right nor left issue - but a right or wrong issue. It was wrong when Obama's admin was in, and its wrong when Trumps admin is in. Sorry all you partisan obsessed people..... right and wrong don't vary depending on party in office.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 19, 2018 7:22 a.m.

    Does not matter what Rep Love, or any other compassionate Rep says or does, this policy will not be overturned.

    trump is too prideful to admit a gross error. Admission of guilt would tarnish his self-gilded reputation.

    But Rep Love can go into November claiming a moral high ground. Then turn around and support the president in every other way.

    Nice move Rep Love, nice move.

  • caljimw Orem, UT
    June 19, 2018 7:19 a.m.

    It seems clear that most people are uncomfortable with family separation connected to illegal border crossings, which occurs because adults are placed in federal prisons with no accommodation for children. The Democrat sponsored Keep Families Together act requires judicial oversight before separation can occur. Neither the Media nor the Government have spoken out on the extent to which this approach would reduce family separation. Rep. Love's bill is the only proposal of which I am aware that provides an immediate and practical fix until comprehensive legislation can get through the Capitol Morass. It essentially keeps the parents out of temporary imprisonment while still monitoring their whereabouts, thus enabling the families to remain together. Might it not be appropriate, rather than using an issue as a bully pulpit to criticize those who are actually trying to do something, to applaud their efforts, or, that failing, to at least limiting comments to the issues?

  • Egyptian origins Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 7:09 a.m.

    I want to publicly thank Mia Love for quickly responding to mine and I hope other constituents who emailed her to take action.

    What Trump has been doing is called, by definition: Extortion

    "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."

    This past Friday morning Trump on National TV blamed Democrats rather than owning up to what Sessions ordered on 6 April 2018 & then reinforced several times since then and then Trump said he must build his Wall. Immigrants are not "pawns" to obtain a Wall, unless this is what Trump meant back on the Campaign when he said "Mexico will [pay] for the Wall", for the Immigrants many of whom are Mexican are indeed paying dearly for it.

    Extortion is a High Crime and I'm very disappointed that no one in the Press, government, or society, are calling it what it is - Extortion.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 5:37 a.m.

    This may not make it past the DN's moderators, but I have to try. When the LDS Church issues a statement saying that "[w]e are deeply troubled by the aggressive and insensitive treatment of these families," I strongly suspect that many of its leaders are not just "troubled," but indeed that they are "outraged" -- and I wish that is the word the Church had used. Members of the LDS Church very much know from the course of their history what it is like to be mistreated by the government (as well as by what passes for American culture), and it pleases me that they are standing up for the immigrants presently among us. I thank them for issuing this statement, but, as I say, I wish they'd used stronger language. That they did not may simply be a reflection of their firm commitment to civility, and that's of course only to be applauded. Still . . .

  • Gregory Hill Richboro, PA
    June 19, 2018 5:27 a.m.

    For those who inaccurately assert that the Sessions/Trump zero tolerance family separation policy of the Trump Administration is a continuation of the 2008 ATEP program: You have been hornswaggled by the Right Wing media. The ATEP program simply changed the border location where deportees were released in Mexico in an attempt to distance them from the “coyotes” that brought them into the country. It did not separate parents from children and detain them in separate facilities.

    Trust DN and NYT over Fox and Breitbart. The former have journalistic integrity. The latter are propaganda outlets masquerading as new media.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 5:27 a.m.

    Mia Love is absolutely right about this issue, there's simply no question about it.

    But Chris Stewart -- with his positively ridiculous idea about subject illegals to "ankle monitors" -- is dead wrong. Indeed, such an approach is arguably unconstitutional.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 3:43 a.m.

    Mia Love: Did the Republican Establishment promise you "great things to come" if you would "play ball?"

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 2:51 a.m.

    @GaryO
    "Our thuggish, brutal, and always lying Republican government...

    Republicans must be soooooooooooooooooo PROUD of the mayhem and pain they cause to defenseless babies."
    ________

    Don't try to cover up the decades of genocide of abortions that the Left has funded and supported. That does not even begin to compare to the borders crisis now taking place.

    The problem needs to be fixed. But Obama and Democrats had 8 years to fix immigration and failed to act. And let's not kid ourselves into thinking that only innocent children are crossing the border. Many MS-13 gangs have crossed the border and committed violent acts and the failure to enact border security has allowed these gangs in. The Democrats have incentives to prevent border security: they are motivated by votes. So the next time you see MS-13 graffiti (I see it frequently) take that into consideration.
    _____

    @Hutterite - American Fork, UT
    "This isn't a case anymore for 'yeah, but Obama...'. This is a case of fix it. Now. "
    _____

    Agree it needs to be fixed but as long as the Left uses these children for political gain we will see more "yeah Obama" as Repubs have a right to respond and state the facts.

  • RRB SLC, UT
    June 19, 2018 2:32 a.m.

    How does she feel about separating Americans from their family when they break the law?

    I hate this double standard that illegal immigration has brought us. The people were warned, yet they came anyway, it's their fault.

  • Truth2017 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 12:43 a.m.

    If you wish to enter the USA without a visa, all you have to do is claim asylum, if ur coached on what to say you will be released into the usa and be given work authorization and other benefits while waiting for a hearing/trial. There is a huge backlog of cases, several years worth. Many asylum seekers never show up for their hearing or if they do and are ordered to leave they never do. This is why many of these people are asking for asylum, they ate gaming the system, to allow them into the USA. Trump is right. The laws need to change so we as a nation can effectively deal with this issue.

  • Truth2017 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2018 12:26 a.m.

    more and more I have less respect for Love. Failure to enforce our laws and control the border is madness. If there is an issue about fighting for the rights of non americans she is there. I can not recall anything she has done for Americans. Other countries control their borders. We should too. If any American commits a crime and is incarcerated, she is also separated from loved ones. If we as citizens are subject to punishment for breaking the laws, foreigners should also be subject to law.
    And what is the path forward of not controlling our borders?
    Is the logic, by all means necessary we must lets anyone in the world who wants to come here in. Should we be happy to give our resources to feed, educate, house and take care of them for their entire lives? Should we give up our jobs and our opportunities and way of life for these people? Should we gladly accept greater population density, higher taxes and crime, to house the worlds population. This insanity must end. I do not believe Love represents the views of those who elected her.

  • BigLib Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 11:58 p.m.

    Immigrant families are bringing the problem upon themselves. If they do not want to be separated then they should stop sending their children across the border illegally. U.S. borders need to be enforced and I applaud President Trump for fulfilling his Constitutional duty. Mia Love has shown that she is no different then a Progressive Democrat on many issues, including immigration.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 18, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    More and more, I'm coming to have some respect for Mia. But I'd have a whole lot more if she would stand up and shout loudly about trump's total lack of honesty and morality.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 18, 2018 8:30 p.m.

    This isn't a case anymore for 'yeah, but Obama...'. This is a case of fix it. Now.
    I don't care what you think Obama did, or Kennedy, or anyone else. Fix it.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    June 18, 2018 8:19 p.m.

    @m_hawke
    "Trump did not start this. It's been going on since Obama."

    Please get your facts straight. Families were not being separated for illegal entry into the US (a misdemeanor offense) until Jeff Sessions communicated a 'zero tolerance' policy in April of this year.

    There's not a single comparable event of families being separated occurring during Obama's presidency.

  • BB1955 South Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2018 8:08 p.m.

    I hope our lawmakers will work together on comprehensive immigration reform. Seems like both sides are blaming the other and digging their heels in to try to drive their unique agenda. USA needs border security, sensible immigration policies, path to citizenship for legal immigrants.

    I have compassion for humans and families, and hate anyone suffering, but if a person commits a crime and gets arrested, do the police have some obligation or policy to keep families together? Where is the outrage in those situations.

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 7:52 p.m.

    @M_Hawke
    Repeating the same lies about this starting under Obama or the 1990’s or by democrates are not going to make them true. Anyone with internet access which is everyone on these forums can easily fact check these lies.

  • M_Hawke Golden, CO
    June 18, 2018 7:45 p.m.

    @Weston Jurney please get your facts straight. Trump did not start this. It's been going on since Obama.

  • M_Hawke Golden, CO
    June 18, 2018 7:34 p.m.

    Rep. Love really should get her facts straight first. This was not brought on by Trump, it was happening with Obama and the press nor she nor anyone said anything about it. It's only because Trump is currently the president and people are grasping at straws to blame him for something. There are lots of other facts surrounding this issue like parents not showing up for the hearings because they are illegal and do not want to be arrested and continually are moving so as not to be found so the children are left in limbo.

    It truly disgusts me when politicians trying to score points with the short attention span public gets on a band wagon and perpetuates the problem instead of truly trying to solve it. Shame on Rep. Love and shame on people who knee-jerk react to every blown up crisis by the media out to blame Trump and the Republicans for every societal problem.

  • GrizzlyPete West Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2018 7:12 p.m.

    RichardB - Murray, UT wrote:
    June 18, 2018 12:17 p.m.
    Mia, you are just going to help them continue doing this again and again. The only way to stop it, is to stop it.

    Please look up the ATEP (Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) under Obama. He did the same thing, and nothing was said by you or the Press.

    ATEP was not a program that separated children from families. It was a program where illegal entrants were deported to areas different from where they were apprehended in an effort to discourage them from quickly returning.

    "The Alien Transfer Exit Programme ( ATEP ) is a US deportation strategy created in 2008 whereby migrants are returned to border regions of Mexico distant from their initial place of apprehension. The goal of this strategy is to geographically separate migrants from their coyotes [paid crossing guide], who are often waiting for them in Mexico, in an attempt to discourage people from attempting additional border crossings. The official government stance concerning this programme is that it is both effective at deterring migration and that it protects migrants from abusive coyotes who often “force” them to cross the harsh Sonoran desert."

  • Marxi$t Plymouth, NC
    June 18, 2018 6:23 p.m.

    @Patriot: Loved your quote - "Don't split your family up then expect America to fix it."

    Only 20% of those who seek asylum actually win their court case to get it. That means there is a whole bunch of people applying for asylum that know they are not eligible, and are playing the system. They are intentionally breaking up their family to get better odds of entry.

    @Moderator: Think you presented an excellent solution. - "They should seek asylum (in Canada) first, and it would be less than $400 to fly them there - a huge savings."

    Simply pay for their ticket to Canada and fly the family there. Let the Canadians deport them back when they get sick of giving them free stuff.

    @RichardB: You said - "Please look up the ATEP (Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) under Obama. He did the same thing, and nothing was said by you or the Press."

    Yet another demonstration of the well-known leftist double standard.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 5:49 p.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    "deflect attention from the even more outrageous conduct of the FBI as revealed by the FBI Inspector General's report."

    Anyone who bothered to read the DN article about that IG report you'd see the primary examples of errors in conduct involved Comey departing from bureau norms when it came to publicly criticizing Hillary and reopening the case a couple weeks before the election. Democrats don't need to deflect attention from that.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 5:46 p.m.

    @patriot
    " They chose instead to sneak in"

    One of the steps for refugee status involves reporting to border crossing points and checking in with authorities for that. That's not a sneaking in process.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 18, 2018 4:50 p.m.

    They should have warned these families before they made that long trip with children.

    Oh wait,,,they DID.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 18, 2018 4:06 p.m.

    Hey Mayhem Mike -

    Re: "As sad as it is to see families separated, the cause is that the parents tried barge into the United States illegally"

    WRONG

    Some of these families were separated after they appealed for American protection, while they were on the Mexican side of the border.

    These people, running from gangs and predators, trekked hundreds of miles up to the U.S. border, and they BEGGED for refuge from those predators. And then what happened??

    . . . Our own Department of Homeland Security scooped them up and immediately separated crying toddlers from their mothers, and NOW our Republican-controlled government won't even allow reporters to see where most of these tiny toddlers are being detained.

    Our thuggish, brutal, and always lying Republican government has turned America into an internationally hated symbol of oppression.

    Republicans must be soooooooooooooooooo PROUD of the mayhem and pain they cause to defenseless babies.

  • Mayfair Logan, UT
    June 18, 2018 3:49 p.m.

    eastcoastcoug said "Just when I thought I couldn't be more ashamed of some of my brothers and sisters in the GOP, along comes this. And some of you people were in church yesterday...."

    I sooo agree.

    I am appalled that some fellow LDS who are GOP have always supported this kind of thing and have spoken with such disgust of those from Latin countries.

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    June 18, 2018 3:43 p.m.

    Many posters seem to imagine all of the detainees are attempting "illegal immigration." A big part of the problem is that the personnel and facilities for processing legal asylum seekers is inadequate, and there is a large backlog of applications. These desperate people mostly do not have a legal alternative, other than to die a slow bureaucratic death.

    We have a real problem, and Trump wants to fund enforcement only. Unless Congress acts, there will be no funding for compassion, and asylum seekers will be hung out to dry.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    June 18, 2018 3:43 p.m.

    patriot said: "re:H. Bob everything you said is factually wrong. First of all these Mexican people are not coming here for asylum."

    Many are not Mexican.

    Many are coming for Asylum

    You of course have no evidence as usual, just rhetoric.

    You conservative Trump fans complain that they are coming to steal your job, and at the same time get all the free stuff because they just want welfare.

    Trouble with conservatives, the truth is seldom on their side, and they contradict themselves constantly.

    But hey, if one can justify separating and caging children, then they can justify just about any other horrible act, even supporting our child president.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 18, 2018 3:13 p.m.

    Please don't comment if you don't understand the meaning of the following acronyms in context.
    TBS
    OTM
    EWI

    You are just hyping a situation you know nothing about.

    Hint: Media sources are NOT explaining the situation. They are merely piling on Trump, something they have been doing since the summer of 2015.

    Frequent commenter here, worf, lives in McAllen, ground zero. Maybe he can enlighten us.

  • viejogeezer CARLSBAD, CA
    June 18, 2018 3:00 p.m.

    Please let's not attempt to defend this heinous policy on either moral or religious grounds. That is at best self serving and perhaps much worse. " Love thy neighbor", "If ye have done it unto the least of these, my brethren, ye have done it unto me" said Jesus. Leviticus 19:33-34, mandates that we care for the stranger within our gates.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    June 18, 2018 2:53 p.m.

    I couldn't care less WHY people are coming here. You do not separate kids from parents as some kind of political ploy.

    Just when I thought I couldn't be more ashamed of some of my brothers and sisters in the GOP, along comes this. And some of you people were in church yesterday nodding your heads and saying Amen about loving your brother as yourself and 'What if their story were my story?'

    Shame, shame, shame...

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:34 p.m.

    Mia Love took office in January of 2015.

    The "children at the border" crisis had been going for two summers. She would then preside over this problem for 2015, 2016 and 2017.

    Trump waited a year for Congress to do something, then declared an end to DACA, with a six month grace period.

    The "caravan" headed north in April, with daily coverage of the problem getting closer to our border.

    And just now, June 18, 2018, Mia Love puts her foot down.

    This time, it's different. All the actors here can now blame Trump.

    I fear that their knee-jerk reaction will lead to less enforcement in the interior and more open borders.

    And their solution will be worse than the problem. There will be no crying children if we just tell everyone "yes."

  • worf McAllen, TX
    June 18, 2018 2:33 p.m.

    "Horrible' separation of families"?

    When are people going to realize how the main stream media and corrupt politicians are make them fools.

    Every week or two, something else comes up. Dictator meeting with dictator, Russian collusion, Trump beating up his wife, eating two scoops of ice cream, disrespecting friendly allies, etc.

    Mobs of people has always been easy to trick. Americans don't know what's going on!

  • prelax Murray, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:18 p.m.

    I'm sure that a few people actually have a reason to request asylum, but the majority (about 80%) will be sent back home, after spending billion of US tax dollars and tying up the courts.

    Like the refugees in Europe, many are ruining it for the few that need it.

    Something needs to be done to stop all this illegal immigration. People keep saying the numbers are steady, but people keep coming here.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:17 p.m.

    Keep the children with their parents.
    As soon as anyone illegally crosses the border, simply push them back across to the other side, parents, kids and all. No need for any sort of hearings or stuff, just do not allow them to enter.

    Legal immigrants, like Mia Love's parents, are welcome, with their children. Illegal immigrants are not welcome and must be deported, with their children.

    The separation is only because liberals insist on all sorts of phony "due process" hearings and delays for the parents, most of which never take place because the parents simply disappear into the heartland.

    This whole sudden "separation of the poor children" uproar is a carefully orchestrated and timed attempt by the Democrats to deflect attention from the even more outrageous conduct of the FBI as revealed by the FBI Inspector General's report.

    Illegal immigrants will not be separated from their children if they do not enter the U.S. illegally, so they have 100% power to immediately end these separations.

    Mia, drop this bill and just enforce the laws against illegal immigration!

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:14 p.m.

    I'm no democrat.

    That said, I know one candidate has actually done something that has benefited me.

    I have no idea what Mia Love has done, other than this.

    She's the virtue signaling type who poses for the leadership to get on committee.

    That said, I cant vote for someone who would have nancy pelosi as a leader.

    Guess I could write in Mitt's wife.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:05 p.m.

    MAYHEM MIKE (and others) "the cause is that the parents tried barge into the United States illegally."
    False. They present themselves at the border as a family seeking asylum. Under a new policy created by Donald Trump, these families are separated while their asylum request is adjudicated. You ask immigrants to choose a legal path to the United States. They took that path, and their reward is to have their family taken apart. Christian Nation in name only.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 18, 2018 2:04 p.m.

    What would Jesus do ?

    No need to speculate.

    Acts 16:7
    "When they came to the border of Mysia, they tried to enter Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not allow them to."

    "Mysia" was the ancient name for "Mexico" and "Bithynia" was the Southern region of what is now the United States. :)

  • MGoodwin Murray/USA, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:57 p.m.

    So what are the options? Go back to catch and release so we have no idea whose where? Put the kids in general population with mom and dad? Send them all back to whatever country they belong to while processing paperwork? Compassion is great for individuals but it's a terrible way to govern, just look at Europe and all the trouble resulting from their compassion. You get a big rush of people more than the existing infrastructure can handle then you have to get creative. Sorry for the kids but they aren't here legally either and unless there's a valid reason otherwise they need to go home.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:52 p.m.

    My my, so good to see the out poring of Christian love and compassion posted here. Very heartwarming. (sarcasm alert)

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:48 p.m.

    There is nothing “horrible “ about it. They can stay together in Mexico! Let me get this straight, you are going to convince the freedom caucus in the house to support a bill that takes away powers of the President, then convince the Senate to pass this mess, and somehow President Trump will then sign it into law. Right, what world lala land have you been living in, oh yeah, Washington D.C. Good luck with this, Opps, no, I do not wish you any luck with this.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 18, 2018 1:48 p.m.

    Love is taking a losing position. At least McAdams, you would expect would be in favor of illegals.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:42 p.m.

    re:H. Bob

    everything you said is factually wrong. First of all these Mexican people are not coming here for asylum. The definition of asylum is "the protection granted by a nation to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee". These Mexican people are not in danger of being killed by the government of Mexico. That is false. They are coming here to get free stuff (welfare, healthcare, etc..). These Mexican parents are breaking the law. Running across the border in the night is dishonest and unlawful. That is why we have border agents in the first place to catch these criminals. They have a choice to come the legal way (fill out the paper work and wait the 10 years to become legal citizens). They chose instead to sneak in -- no one was forcing them out of Mexico and no one was trying to exterminate them. This is all about getting free stuff. Finally your terrorist comment was silly. Where do terrorists and human traffic smugglers and drug dealers and gun deals all come from? They walk right across our open border. Who suffers? US citizens suffer. By the way most of these illegals only have an 8th grade education so they aren't contributors . Wise up.

  • PDN SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:27 p.m.

    I applaud Love for her desire to stop this. However, her proposed legislation has strings attached to the reuniting of children with their parents. This policy should stop immediately without any strings attached. Otherwise, it is just the taking of children as hostages to achieve political advantage. There is good and evil in this world. This policy is the embodiment of evil and those who prosecute or support the policy are making the choice to support evil.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:27 p.m.

    Republican voters widely support the separation of children from their parents at the border, and it's not close: 55-35.

    With those kind of numbers, you can bet nothing will happen - and the treatment may even intensify - well past GOP/POT primaries.

    This is another issue where Mia Love's voters took a radical right turn, and she's left trying to defend what once known was the "Family Values" party.

  • Moderator Nauvoo, IL
    June 18, 2018 1:27 p.m.

    The children in detention have better accommodations than the children of many US citizens. As said in the New Testament, we need to take care of our own family first.

    An easy solution would be to deny all asylum seekers at the border, and force them to file asylum in the many US embassies around the world. Also, why shouldn't they be seeking Asylum in Canada or Mexico? They should seek asylum there first, and it would be less than $400 to fly them there - a huge savings.

  • ute lover Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:07 p.m.

    all the pictures being shown are from around 2014 I don't think President Trump was President at that time, some one was in the white house at that time, but President Trump would still get the blame isn't that how it has been workin lately.

  • ute lover Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:07 p.m.

    all the pictures being shown are from around 2014 I don't think President Trump was President at that time, some one was in the white house at that time, but President Trump would still get the blame isn't that how it has been workin lately.

  • bachelors of science Brigham City, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:07 p.m.

    @ vanceone

    If an American commits a serious crime their children usually go live with a family member. Or social services picks them up.

    They are Never thrown in a cage with nothing but a mattress on the cold concrete floor and a thermal blanket. What they are doing to those helpless kids on the border is not right.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:03 p.m.

    Simple common sense dictates that if they don't want their families "broken up" then just stay in Mexico. They have apparently been traversing Mexico for weeks or months, peacefully, so apparently Mexico has accepted them. Just stay in Mexico. It is not our responsibility to accept everyone.

  • MAYHEM MIKE Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 1:00 p.m.

    As sad as it is to see families separated, the cause is that the parents tried barge into the United States illegally. Having recently returned from a trip to China, I suggest, by way of contrast, that you try to barge your way illegally into China to obtain citizenship and see how far you’ll get. The United States has clear laws and procedures for obtaining citizenship but no will to enforce them.

  • Mayfair Logan, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:58 p.m.

    Good for her.

    As a mother and as a member of the LDS Church, she would be going against everything she believes in if she refused to try to do something to end this appalling offensive situation.

  • Mayfair Logan, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:58 p.m.

    Good for her.

    As a mother and as a member of the LDS Church, she would be going against everything she believes in if she refused to try to do something to end this appalling offensive situation.

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:51 p.m.

    News Flash ! Enter the Country Legally !! We have to have Laws to Govern this Country ... Always have and always will....Obey the law and no problems ......

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 18, 2018 12:49 p.m.

    Hey Vanceone -

    Re: "Illegals get all the benefits of citizenship with none of the responsibilities, like paying taxes. Right Gary? "

    Actually, plenty of illegals do pay taxes. In fact they contribute billions to social security, but they may NEVER draw social security, because of their illegal status. Not only that, but a good number of them serve in the armed forces. And after years of solid service they are then kicked out of the country.

    That doesn't sound like "all the benefits of citizenship with none of the responsibilities," does it?

    Educate yourself, and NO, the Russian-troll-farm "news" you prefer won't teach you anything of value.

    Read and learn:

    "Undocumented immigrants pay $12 billion of taxes every single year." - Punditfact

    " The Truth About Undocumented Immigrants and Taxes" - The Atlantic

    "You feel lost': Deported U.S. vets in Mexico hope for return under Trump camp" - The Chicago Tribune

  • Weston Jurney West Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:47 p.m.

    Laudable that Love would seek to end this heinous practice. But it's execrable that tRump initiated it in the first place.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:39 p.m.

    Democrats are desperate for a wedge issue

    They have no vision and the Russia scandal was totally bogus.

    Solutions

    Mia: build a wall

    Parents: don’t come

    You know the risks and accepted them. Shame on you.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:38 p.m.

    An FYI to Mexican parents. Don't split your family up then expect America to fix it. Don't cross our border illegally and then expect amnesty. Be an honest person and obey the laws of the United States. Get in line like the rest of honest immigrants and fill out the paper work and then spend the 10 years it takes to become a legal citizen. Stop trying to cut in line and then get rewarded for it. This is wrong --- it is dishonest -- in fact it is criminal. If I am a Mexican parent I am responsible for my kids not US customs. I make the choice to cross or not cross the border illegally. I send my kids here illegally or not. This is ALL about Mexican parents gaming the system and the Democrat party (and those Republicans in blue districts like Mia Love) trying to get reelected. It really is as simple as that. Obviously the US can't be an open border society or we become California and as someone who just returned from that sorry state there is no way I want Utah to be like California -- bankrupt, desperate, decaying and unlivable.

  • H. Bob Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:37 p.m.

    Three things:
    1. Applying for asylum is not illegal. What most of these families are doing is the exact same thing that our ancestors did when they arrived at Ellis Island--they're going to a US port of entry and applying for asylum. What the Trump/Sessions zero-tolerance policy does is declare that "crossing of the border" illegal, and then separates families until ICE can determine whether or not they should receive asylum. And they're only doing it "as a deterrent."
    2. And even that act of "crossing the border" is, the first time, the civil equivalent of a misdemeanor. If we let this atrocity stand, what's to stop this or a subsequent administration from taking people's kids as a deterrent for any other misdemeanor (like, say, speeding)?
    3. Do you want terrorists? Because what we're doing here is exactly how you get terrorists. These kids aren't going to grow up and be enthusiastic supporters of the American dream, are they? Do we need immigration reform? Absolutely. But stealing kids from their mothers and fathers sure isn't the way to do it.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:34 p.m.

    I voted for Mia Love last time around. If there's a conservative person running against her I'm voting her out. After this the only way she gets my vote is if the only other person is a democrat. I hope a republican challenges her.

  • jparry Provo, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:33 p.m.

    Thank you for reintroducing a little morality into Republican politics, Rep. Love!

  • RoxyLynne Madison, IN
    June 18, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    What is the permanent solution to this problem? How do we control who can enter this country, and how many? There is obviously no deterrent to these people who only care about themselves and not about being legal law abiding people.

  • Fabled Soul Provo, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    Wow. She’s working hard to depress her base and lose reelection. American parents who commit crimes are separated from their parents all the time. Where child abuse or neglect are alleged, children can be separated from parents temporarily even without a hearing or court order. Foreigners entering the US illegally should not receive better treatment than citizens, and America should not be the dumping grounds for the world’s problems!

  • Vanceone Provo, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:17 p.m.

    So Mia sells out. Why doesn't she care about American's getting separated from their children? That happens to millions of American citizens when they commit a crime. They go to jail.

    But illegals are better than Americans. They get to commit crimes without penalties, and the left is cheering loudly as they try to implement a "superior class" of illegals who can do whatever they want with no penalty.

    Illegals get all the benefits of citizenship with none of the responsibilities, like paying taxes. Right Gary?

    The reality is: if Mexicans voted Republican, you could see the Great Wall of Mexico from space as the left would make that priority number one. And there would be moats, full machine gun nests and orders to shoot to kill on sight.

    Kind of like how Democrats treat Cubans or Vietnamese refugees, actually. Those groups know how well the Democrat party treats them. We all saw Democrat policy with Elian Gonzalez, didn't we? Men with guns ripping children away to send them to Cuba. Every Democrat cheered themselves hoarse--one less potential Republican!

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    June 18, 2018 12:17 p.m.

    Mia, you are just going to help them continue doing this again and again. The only way to stop it, is to stop it.

    Please look up the ATEP (Alien Transfer Exit Program (ATEP) under Obama. He did the same thing, and nothing was said by you or the Press.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    June 18, 2018 12:01 p.m.

    What?

    You mean Mia Love is getting all moral on us?

    Wow! What a RINO!

    She might as switch parties.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 18, 2018 11:45 a.m.

    This is a humanitarian crisis that is rapidly careening out of control, Mia Love. Don't just issue a press release. Call a news conference. Get in front of microphones. Make yourself visible front and center. You are the personification of a refugee success story. You have the power to open some closed minds. Do it!

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    June 18, 2018 11:42 a.m.

    I salute Ms. Love in this endeavor, Her Republican counterparts however will not support it.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 18, 2018 11:36 a.m.

    Mia Love and the GOP has been in charge for 18 months and we are no close to having our immigration laws changed or Mexico building a wall. Unless it's a bill to lower taxes for their biggest contributors or increasing our spending and deficits trillions of more dollars, this Congress and President haven't and won't accomplish anything.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    June 18, 2018 11:27 a.m.

    Good to hear that not all Republicans are walking in goose-step with Trump.