In regard to the church's recent movements regarding homosexuals, in less
than 10 years we will resemble the Episcopal Church. It's a good bet we
will homosexual Bishops and Stake Presidents. bill morgan
People need to be able to document their family history. That's all there
is to it.
It turns out, Gay people are actually, wait for it.. people.
After reading some comments I found that two points are being confused. The
first is many do not understand what genealogy is, it is the study of family
ancestral lines, connecting the relationship of one generation to the next,
which produces a pedigree. They need NOT to be genetical relationships. Adopted
children are as much apart of family as those that are genetically connected. As
a professional genealogist for the past twenty years, I have encouraged those
who are adopted follow their heritage or adopted line. The second point is
FamilySearch is NOT the LDS Church. Yes, it is funded and directed by the LDS
Church, but it is not the Church. As an ex-Mormon who is Gay, I want my great
grandchildren to known about me and my husband, we apart of the lives of our
grandchildren lives. Will they not have their hearts turned to their fathers? So
my marriage should be recorded for future generations in FamilySearch. They will
find our marriage in the Utah marriage records. Why Hide it?
As for the reason for this, it is in line with the Church's actions
regarding the lgbt. The Church has always tried to show as much kindness as
possible to this group. This is another way to do that.
@PBradley: "And I've gone through contortions in my mind to justify
past race and the priesthood policies, polygamy, etc, but this could be the last
straw on this particular camel's back."That, right there,
should tell you someting important. Seriously. Read it again. Why do
you have to contort your mind to explain away the past? To justify things that,
really, are unjustified and unjustifiable?
@jsf: "...but last time I checked, you can't change gender. It's a
sealed complete scientific fact."Biological sex is determined by
at least a dozen genes and hormones within the womb during key phases of fetal
development. External genitals only tell part of the story. Internal
organs can match, or be different. Furthermore, interuterine
neurological development is also impacted by multiple genes and hormones. MRI
technology is finding strong evidence that brain wiring does not always match
external genitals. It is far, far from "sealed scientific
@ Paul in MD,Thank you for your words. I just find conflict in what
has been done with FS and the doctrine taught in "The Proclamation...."
in regards to the definition of family. Without the church as a constant in my
life, fighting for what is right, and defying all that is evil, I find it hard
to comprehend the intent of this change.
Well marriages are marriages, there's nothing complicated about adding that
in. As for children of same-sex couples... how are adoptions typically handled
in these databases?
Knowing that not one of us is perfect in this life - I have perfect faith that
Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ love us. I'm glad the
important facts of this life can all be recorded on Family Search. The
Church is not bowing down to current pressure. We are to obey the laws of the
land in which we live. That is part of why this change is made. Every
child of God just wants to be loved and accepted. Hate the sin - love the
sinner. Try hard not to carry nor cast any stones, we live in tough
times. Please rise to the occasion.
@Bluto and others, you are reading WAY too much into this. This is just an
adjustment to reality, albeit an unfortunate reality, that to properly record
family history, this change needs to happen. A family tree is NOT church
doctrine, it is pure information., that's all.
A very worrying decision of the Church. For years we have been proud of a faith
that has sent out a sure sound of the trumpet, a clarion call of truth that
no-one could misinterpret. It's such a sound to which many have been
attracted. Now, like many of the other Christian churches, the
trumpet is sounding very off-key. Mixed messages are coming from the Brethren.
Some have expressed disapproval in General Conference talks of same-sex
marriage, while the only message we hear from others is inclusiveness for gays.
And, the "inclusive" message has become far more powerful than the
opposite, particularly with the changes to FamilySearch.So what
happens when a child of a gay couple joins the church? Once his or her
"parents" die, can they then be sealed to their parents in the temple? I
don't know how this can ever unravel without a strike at the foundations of
our doctrine.If the next, seemingly inevitable, step is taken,
I'm out. I've based my testimony on the Spirit, the Book of Mormon,
the doctrine. And I've gone through contortions in my mind to justify past
race and the priesthood policies, polygamy, etc, but this could be the last
straw on this particular camel's back.
It would appear that the current church leaders have not been cut from the same
cloth that early church leaders were!
This is a comment, not DN feedback. I'm getting that more, for some
reason.Anyway, after reading the comments here, I'm reminded
strongly of the parable of the 10 virgins, who we know represent members of the
Church. Just a thought.This is such an important change. We need to
be able to see how people are linked and have it correctly documented. It's
too bad it is causing problems for some because it will be a blessing for so
@BrentbotShortly before the Savior's coming to America, the
Book of Mormon says that the wicked had "seduced the more part of the
righteous until they had come down to believe in their works and partake of
their spoils". Helaman 6You're beginning to see this in
the modern church with news like this. You're seeing signs of it more and
more now. I was shocked at the attack by the current leadership on past leaders
like Brigham Young for the Priesthood ban. Over 120 years of LDS doctrine has
been disavowed. It's open blasphemy against God's keyholders and,
I'm very sad to say it, but this is a clear sign of apostasy. We're getting very close to the second coming when even "the very
elect will be deceived". Don't put your testimony in men. Put it in
Christ through the Scriptures and the Spirit. Hold your family close.
It's time to start praying more.
"Slouching toward Gomorrah" never thought the LDS Church would be
facilitating the decline in civilization.
@WhatdoIKNOW, it sounds like you are striving valiantly to follow the
commandments of God under a very difficult set of circumstances. Please
continue on your chosen path.This announcement is not a change in
church policy or doctrine. This is a change in a piece of software the church
makes available to the public, not just for LDS temple work. I think the church
sees some wisdom in changing the software to allow more people to record their
family history and access the information already there. I'm sure there is
much to this decision that we have not heard.I do not believe this
portends any change in church doctrine regarding same-sex marriage and temple
work, nor do I believe that such a change will ever occur. As stated in
conference a few years ago, making it legal doesn't make it right.
@ashbash63, there are a great many families that are not based 100% on genetics.
In my own case, my parents were divorced when I was 11. Dad remarried two
years later, when I got a step-sister, two step-brothers, and another sister
(step-mother's younger step-sister by their father, who she later took in
as a foster daughter and eventually adopted). Dad and step-mom had a child
together a little while later.Dad and I joined the church a while
later.When they could marry in the temple, my other siblings were
sealed to them, but I had to wait until 18, when I didn't need permission
from biological mom.Parents adopted two more kids out of the foster
system. They were eventually sealed to the parents as well.Family
Search shows us as one big family, the way Father will look at us when we
arrive. Genealogy is about family, which is about much more than blood.
So many silly comments on this. Amazing. This is the right thing to do and in
no way affects the Church's policies or doctrines. Ordinances to seal gay
couples is not in this change. God allowing same sex married couples in the
celestial kingdom was not announced. How would same sex couples procreate in
the celestial kingdom? Probably the same as they do today - not.Does surgery to change the gender of the body change the gender of the spirit?
No.The Family: A Proclamation to the World is still good.
@ashbash63 It is obvious to me that you have no idea how well the LGBTQ
community works together to create biological children. My best friend for many
years was a gay man. He and his partner were both lawyers. They worked with a
beautiful lesbian couple to have several children through IVF. They had and
raised together four beautiful children 3 girls and 1 boy. Each couple raised
two of the children. Each child was the biological offspring of one of the
members of the family who raised them and was adopted by the other parent. Also, how dare you say adoptions don’t count! My son is adopted by
his “dad” and sealed to us. His “biological father” is
not in the picture here or in eternity. I am also pretty sure Emma Smith would
have a problem with what you are saying! I am pretty sure those precious adopted
children of hers are equally as important to her as her own blood children.
I hope that the ability to record both the birth name and gender as well as the
transgender name and gender of an individual will be added during this process
or very soon afterward in an update to the system. This is wonderful!
Family Search is for ANYONE to use, and as comments have been brought up
earlier, this is such a helpful tool to put our families together. This can
answer questions or put people in touch, who need information about their
families, whether medical or just because they want to connect with their loved
ones. It will be a blessing to have anything improve accuracy on Family Tree.
Why wouldn't we acknowledge this when there are family units shown on here,
such as common law, polygomous and concubine (from other cultures) situations?
There is a rising interest in family research, with the way DNA testing is being
utilized, and isn't it great that ANYONE can put together a family line on
FS and track things about their families? I will say that I have wondered about
ordinance work, mainly the current green icons that allows us to request
ordinances to be done. Will that Sealing to Spouse one now show? I'm sure
that, too, will be handled, and I will support whatever is done about it. I am
very excited to learn about this change!
I would like to propose the following change to FamilySearch.The
"Sources" section needs to be changed.I have folks that have
80-100 "Sources". I suggest that there should be within
"Sources" a "Primary" and a "Secondary" section. The
FamilySearch patron would have the power to decide which section to place each
"source".In my opinion FamilySearch patrons should put
birth, marriage, divorce, death, burial and census records in the
"Primary" section.They should use the "Secondary"
section for less significant records. An example is "obituary"
clippings that just mention a particular person who is remotely related. People
with Southeast Idaho backgrounds often have their names in a large quantity of
these clippings. The computer indexing of obituaries is a major contributor.Subject change:Many people apparently do not know that they
can rearrange the "Sources". Ideally patrons should put
"Sources" in a logical order starting with birth."Sources" titles can be changed using the "Edit" feature. It
takes time and effort to "Edit" source titles, but the result is a
better family history.The 1940 census should not be in
"Sources" 3 or 4 times.
I am sure that the church is doing all that needs to be done to avoid lawsuits.
Since Family Search is open to the general public, and the general public uses
it then it would accommodate all the public. Groups like the ACLU are taxpayer
funded and have unlimited resources, while the church would have to pay all the
cost of a lawsuit itself. I think it is pretty obvious the trend that society
is taking. This does not change the church's stance on what constitutes a
marriage in God's eyes and what kinds of marriages can become eternal
marriages via temple ordinances. God's laws are unchanging and eternal.
This change encourages everyone to contribute genealogy information. I
personally hope that by accepting individuals , not specific practices or
behaviors which are against my beliefs, that we can foster friendship to
everyone. We can focus on the things we have in common which may include
ancestors. Then Gay people will think more kindly about those who are not Gay
and have different values and beliefs from them. We need to be kind and
friendly to everyone and still be able to adhere to our own beliefs and values.
We respect everyone and expect them to respect us.
Are you kidding me?Genealogy is supposed to be our biological/DNA sexual
unions of males and females; thus the original meaning of the root
"Gen". For the Church to provide alternative parents to their
genealogical program strays from its intended purpose and has been the cause of
many problems such as Mormons doing Temple work for Holocaust victims.
Throughout the Church's history they've switched back and forth as to
whether or not just main lines should be done, but by branching out there are
more opportunities to attend the Temple, though it denies others the same
opportunity, thus, there are family conflicts as a result. It's bad enough
that the Church provides ordinance names for those who don't bring their
own family names, taking names away from other member's family lines. With
the Church's doctrine of Exalted Families, a change from Exalted Couples,
this conflicts with alternative family structures, but is a way to provide more
baptisms for the remodeled Jordan River Temple which completes the most baptisms
of any other Temple. So, this news tells me that the Church is running out of
names for members to do ordinance work.
Ici en Europe nous avons les mÊmes questions que vous, les mÊmes
intÉrrogations, les mÊmes doutes. Mais si nous comprenons bien le
"pourquoi les choses sont ainsi" nous pouvons comprendre que tout
Ça est "normal". Le PrÉsident Nelson est le prophÈte et
il recevra la rÉvÉlation pour la suite À donner sur le sujet.
Nous avons besoin d'un ProphÈte vivant pour que ces questions
dÉlicates soient comprises et appliquÉes correctement. Je viens de
voir que Adolf Hitler Était dans la base de donnÉes F.H. cela a
donnÉ beaucoup de questions...., mais il doit aussi passer par
lÀ...non ? Les rÈgles de l'Eglise en matiÈre
d'ordonnances du temple ne changent pas ...sauf, si le Seigneur
rÉvÈle À ses serviteurs les ProphÈtes quelque chose
d'autre que ce que nous savons sur le sujet. Donc, pour le moment, suivons
le ProphÈte et ne soyons pas dans la crainte...., qui est À la barre ?
Le Seigneur... et croyez-moi Il sait exactement ce qui est bien pour nous....!
Patience and faith go a long, long way at times like this. I have been a
genealogist for over 40 years, and a family history consultant in many different
wards, and I have been witness to many, many changes in how the Church handles
genealogical records. It may get tougher to learn the changes every day, but we
keep on going.I personally was surprised by this announcement, and
had to think about it for awhile, but then I had to smile. President Nelson
surprises us at every turn with new ways to love, accept, and minister to one
another. Now we can also minister to more people in new ways. We are all
God's children. He expects us to be gracious and caring toward each other.
Now we have another way to practice that commandment.
This is filling me with some very mixed emotions. A person strives their entire
lives to live the commandments of God, and avoid falling into sin because of
same gender attraction, sustains the leaders of the church when they produced
"The Family: A Proclamation to the World", battles lustful desires for
individuals of the same gender, feels blessed for having married the opposite
gender, raised some amazing children, and yet still feels a whole in their life
that cannot be filled, and now the Church is acknowledging same gender couples
and "their" children as families. I have never had such a hard time with
a change in policy as I am having with this one. Are we not to be in the world,
but not of the world? I need to get some PH leadership counseling on this one.
@NWClerk"(1) Families can be together forever.(2)
Homosexual families are families.Therefore:(3) Homosexual families
can be together forever.Yes, it's a faulty syllogism, but mark
my word: Stipulating that (2) is a valid premiss will cause this faulty
syllogism to be heard over and over and over again."The fault
begins at (1), which contains undefined terms and cannot be substantiated in its
This policy is certainly about more than data collection. The Lord challenges
us often to go deeper into His doctrine for additional perspective. This is as
good a time as any to deepen our understanding of of temple doctrine and
Changes in the civil law do not, indeed cannot, change the moral law that God
has established. Civil law if not constitutional by the Lord's defenition
cometh of evil, e.g., Roe v. Wade, obedience to the Nuremberg Laws provided
the impotece for the holocost, Governor Bogg's extermination order of the
Mormons . . .What is becoming of Christ's Church, who has ascended to
power? As members of the church if we stand by doing and saying nothing is it
any wonder that the cleansing will begin with us?D&C 112:24 Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants
of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of
weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall
come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord.25 And upon my
house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth,
saith the Lord;26 First among those among you, saith the Lord, who
have professed to know my name and have not known me, and
have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the
D&C 84:4 "I say . . concerning the laws of the land . . my
people should observe to do all things whatsoever I command them . . .
constitutional [law], supporting . . freedom in maintaining rights and
privileges . . is justifiable before me . . pertaining to law of man, whatsoever
is more or less than this, cometh of evil."Same-sex marriage
fundamentally changes and has consequences on religious freedom, society,
families and children. Changes in the civil law cannot change the moral law
that God has established.Elder Oaks redefines the Lord's defenition
of constitutional law:Elder Oaks: "Even where they [believers] have
challenged laws or practices on constitutional grounds, once those laws or
practices have been sustained by the highest available authority, believers
should acknowledge their validity and submit to them. Even where they have
challenged laws or practices on constitutional grounds . . . when acting as
public officials they are not free to apply personal convictions—religious
or other . . . A county clerk’s recent invoking of religious reasons to
justify refusal by her office and staff to issue marriage licenses to
same-gender couples violates this principle."
We follow the example of the Saviour by loving the man but not the evil that he
does.In the 90s a BYU professor told me that the church would
eventually sanction same-sex marriages. I thought him well intentioned but
misguided and illinformed.However, the church is repeatedly coming
out on the wrong side of same sex issues. First, siding against individual
liberty and freedom in favor of special LGBT rights in Utah by prohibiting the
individual right to discriminate in respect to their own property. Then the church cut off at the knees the most vulnerable in a same sex
household, those with the greatest need for a connection to the light that the
church has to offer through the Savior, namely the children. Then
Elder Oaks at the Second Annual Sacramento Court/Clergy Conference inSacramento, California October 20, 2015 excoriated the public servants who
refused to issue same-sex marriage licences because it was a violation of their
religous beliefs.Then the tacit affirmation of homosexuality via D.
Todd Christoffersons brother's Deseret Book deal and book signing
events.Now the Church is adding same-sex families to Family Search
which is the temple name database.
I thumbed through the comments and I wish I wouldn't do that. Now that
I've done so my view is this. This was a decision that was likely made by
the First Presidency and the General Authorities of the Church. As so I support
their decisions and guidance just as we all should. As I have little family
left this is not likely an event that I will need to record however as someone
who was adopted I have listed them as my family because they are!! I also know
my birth family so my family tree has both and Family Search supports that.
names of all humans areincluded in FS so what is the big problem any way
@ashbash63"[...] this is about genealogy."Genealogy includes
tracking adoption and childless couples. So if you're set on
objecting to this, don't try to blame genealogy here.
Ashbash63...perhaps that’s why the Church now refers to
genealogy as “Family history” or “Temple and Family
History”......we don’t know everything...
(1) Families can be together forever.(2) Homosexual families are
families.Therefore:(3) Homosexual families can be together
forever.Yes, it's a faulty syllogism, but mark my word:
Stipulating that (2) is a valid premiss will cause this faulty syllogism to be
heard over and over and over again.Suddenly, I have lost interest in
working on the bells and whistles of FamilySearch: From here on out, I'll
just be doing the bare minimum required to take names to the temple.
Believe me, I get it. We have a grandpa in our family tree we all wish we
didn't, but unfortunately bloodlines are bloodlines and no matter how much
we don't like it, we have his blood and not our 'real'
grandpa's blood. Oh how we wish we did! Adoptions definitely are legal and
can be recorded by the church as sealings, I get that, but adopted kids still
don't have the adopted bloodlines. And sealing kids of same sex couples to
their parents will never be an issue, assuming the church will keep its stance
on only a man and woman (I suppose I should say women since men can be sealed to
more than one woman) sealed together in the temple. It's cool that
you can add other things like adopted parents or kids as an extra, but this is
about genealogy. Genealogy is about individuals in a line, not marriages or
family units. Namely, you are half this guy and half this girl and their birth
parents are this guy and this girl, like on a birth certificate, whether the
blood parents are together or not. I cannot see any instance where recording a
gay marriage is relevant whether by the church, since we don't recognize
them as actual unions for religious purposes, or in a genealogical line.
@ashbash63So... you think adopted kids don't count as actual family?
Genealogy is about more than blood an adopted kids have been being sealed to
parents almost as long as dealings have happened in this dispensation. There was
even a specific ordinance to be adopted that is now no longer used. My sister
and I both sealed to our step father. Family search already is set up to
record multiple marriages and can even note biological vs sealing relationships.
Genealogy is part of family history but it is far from the only thing.
@ashbash63A quick Google search tells me that FamilySearch already
includes both biological relationships as well as adored ones, so your concern
is a bit late, and far beyond including same-sex marriages.
This makes no sense. It's physically impossible for a same-sex couple to
have a child. It's genealogy, so who your adopted parents are don't
matter here. It's about blood and only blood. Whether you have an adopted
parent, or same-sex parents, those don't belong in these results. Family is
wonderful and acceptance and love and all that is wonderful, but our modern idea
of 'family' is not genealogy. This is crazy and useless.
"...yea, and [the devil] leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until
he bindeth them with his strong cords forever." (2 Nephi 26:22)
... will being listed as in a"gay marriage" mean that Mormon family
members won't try that "baptism for the dead" thing fifty years
after I'm gone?If so, sounds great to me.
...it has been said by sociologists, church leaders, and others that the family
is the most important social unit of society...any society......not
all families include the same numbers of children, or mothers, or fathers, or
cousins, or grandparents...the success of the family unit to society is the
important factor......all families can be united and
successful...each member in a family has been blessed with gifts to give. ...families who are tied together, who show love one to another, who
strengthen each other, are beneficial to societies.....thank you to
our church leaders and Family Search for recognizing the importance of including
all family members in family history documentation......what a
blessing it will be to have all family members recorded in our pedigrees and
connected to our trees...
"I haven't checked to see if the gender of an individual can be changed
in FS, but if not, that feature should probably be on the roadmap too."I don't know if you accept actual science, but last time I checked,
you can't change gender. It's a sealed complete scientific fact. But, what ever we still have the flat earthers, the moon landing was
faked, and global warming is caused by man. Fake science is alive and thriving.
@EPoint"I believe there is some loss of interest and activity when
changes to the system make it seem even more formidable, generally, to the
beginner and the novice FH patron."I don't know where you
live, but throughout the church there are Temple and Family History consultants
who can help you understand FamilySearch and all its features and nuances. You
don't have to go to Salt Lake or even a local family history branch. Most
local ones are gone anyway because pretty much everything you need is on the
computer and accessible in the comfort of your home. Reach out to your local
ward for help. If you aren't a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, those same people can help you anyway. If you are comfortable
with computers, there are so many helps available online through FamilySearch
itself. Also check out the Riverton UT online family history center. It has
pictures and step-by-step instructions. You don't have to navigate those
orange road construction barrels alone!
I am happy to see this. Many family historians have been puzzled about how to
put same sex families in the tree. Just because we know they are not eternal
does not mean we are supposed to refuse to add them to our families trees. No
need to jump to any unwarranted conclusions or speculations. If you do family
history you know this was a problem that needed solved. Would it make sense to
refuse to add families that did not marry legally? How about children that were
born out of the marriage or before marriage? They are still families whether
they are perfect families or not. It is not our place to judge. Only to
research and record. Accurately.
Hopefully, the biological, adopted, and foster sort of tags will be more
predominant.Some sort of common law coupling as a child source might also
be helpful.The "genetics" part of genealogy is an important
part, medically if nothing else.
Makes sense. Genealogy is about facts, and leaving out the same-sex marriages
would make as much sense as leaving out the marriages of non-Mormons.
It sounds like a way to avoid potential future lawsuits to me, not a back-door
acknowledgement of any future policy change.
I'm very disappointed in the church..This implies the church
recognizes two gay men or two gay women with kids (however they were
acquired) as a family?.. I guess the "the proclamation to the world"
and what a family is just took a new meaning in the LDS theology??..
What's next, gay weddings in LDS chapels followed by gay Temple marriages??
Awesome change 😃
@ReadMineFirstIt does not. The marriages are able to be recorded but
ordinances for the couple will not be available.This is just for
accurate record keeping. For example, I have a gay cousin, she and her wife have
a several children, some from previous marriages to men and one they had
together via artificial insemination. Currently only the children from their
previous marriages can be recorded correctly. With this change their current
family situation can be recorded as well.
@SmithyBen. So...the website is just documenting legal marriages. What
about children of those who choose to not marry?@RitaB.Glad
you are coming around on same-sex marriage. But, like you say, we can all agree
that 3 consenting adults attempting to live in a plural marriage is a bit much.
@custer. But even though "no longer valid," plural marriage certainly
WAS valid. So there is a difference when comparing to gay marriage. And, in the
next life, those plural marriages, or at least many of them, are likely to
continue to be valid.
@RitanPolygamy was ordained by God and the Prophets.Gay marriage
(supposedly) never will be? This is, inevitably, the next step
toward Gay Temple Marriages.What's next...Demands for
Temple Sealings for Gay couples and children sealed to such unions?Then...Demands for Transgender & "No Gender" individuals?
They then must also be included in the data base.Will all the
temple ordinances still be listed, for an individual who had them done, before
their Gay Marriage? Or, will their record reflect the current policy
i.e. Excommunication, when one enters into a same sex relationship?If the "NO Gender" thing kicks in, eventually, there would be no way
to stop Gay Marriage sealings.The current movement in our society,
is away from any "Gender Identification" at all, such as, on
Birth Certificates and Marriage Licenses.For example.... Salt Lake
County now lists marriages only as "Spouse One and Spouse Two". With no Gender Identification!What a mess.This is just more
capitulation to the LGBT community."Deviancy continues to be
defined downward". Senator Moynihan N.Y.As a family
history consultant......I'm out !
How do you record the family history of someone who is gay, then transgender,
then gender-fluid, then something else, with multiple partners equally varied,
and who have multiple “family members”, etc., within one lifetime?
This will be a record-keeping nightmare.
Sort of confused here...does this mean that Temple ordinances, i.e., sealing of
spouses of LGBTQ folks can be submitted? Anyone out there know?
I would caution everyone not to read anything into this. I know there are those
who hope and think the Brethren will cave into the secular world and back same
sex marriage. Think again. It is clearly against the laws of God and that will
never change. This is only for documentation purposes.
Plural marriages/families are documented on Family Search, even though this form
of marriage is no longer valid in the Mormon Church. Accepting same-sex
marriages/families simply adds to the list, and is consistent with the policy of
documenting all marriages, even those considered not valid by the Church.
For those of you who think the Church is condoning or accepting same-sex
marriage you're incorrect. This move by FamilySearch is merely
a change to the program for documentation purposes and nothing more.
I first thought was about how this sight is never set, always changing, perhaps
an orange barrel such as UDOT uses for road constructions could become part of
the FamilySearch.org icon? Of course it is understood, in order to provide for
accurate records of all people the changes must be made. I believe there is
some loss of interest and activity when changes to the system make it seem even
more formidable, generally, to the beginner and the novice FH patron.
@Rocket2010I would refer you to SmithyBen's comment. He says it very
This is an exciting change and a positive step for the Church and family
history. Well done.
The Church is simply documenting legal marriage records. Since gay marriage is
allowed per the laws of the land, these legal family records should be
documented and available to everyone. Documenting marriages is not the same as
condoning same-sex marriage. The line is still very distinct and clear to me.
This news makes me so happy I can't stop crying tears of joy. Families come
in all shapes, sizes, colors and genders. Acknowledging this, and widening the
arms of genealogy is a major step forward widening our arms and our hearts. This
change is a perfect example of putting President Nelson's plea into action
that we must "Build Bridges not Walls". Thank you, thank you,
Genealogy is genealogy, facts are facts, and information is information. We need
it to have a complete family and family tree.if you have a gay son
or daughter, do we remove them from our family or our family tree? No. That
would be unbelievably cruel and certainly not what I believe Christ would have
us do. They are our children and we love them. Let's treat them like the
loved human beings they are.
Plural marriages aren't currently legal but are supported by FamilySearch.
It makes perfect sense to me that same-sex marriages, which are, should be able
to be tracked.I haven't checked to see if the gender of an
individual can be changed in FS, but if not, that feature should probably be on
the roadmap too.
It makes total sense that FamilySearch would add this feature when so many
modern families look like this. And I've gotta be honest. Same-sex marriage
is way less offensive to me than polygamy. My ancestors experienced so much pain
from polygamy, and the pain continued for generations.
The water in that frogs pot has got to be somewhere around luke warm. I
understand why FamilySearch would do this but at the same time I’m
counseled to stand for something I believe in even when it’s not popular
or could offend someone. I feel sometimes it seems like the leaders talk the
talk but don’t walk the walk.
Gotta admit, this was a bit shocking at first.