Poll: Love-McAdams race in Utah's 4th District may be too close to call

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  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2018 10:16 p.m.

    It isn 't impressive she hasn't stood up to Trump over many things including what he has said and done with regard to minorities. Or, to his selling our allies down the river while he caters to Kim Jong Un and Putin. Or, that she supports someone that has no qualms about breaking the law and engaging in non-stop unethical and theatrical behavior.

    Adams isn't the perfect candidate but what do we have to lose to give him a chance to see if he can do any better than she has? If not, throw him out the next go round.

  • Edmunds Tucker St George, UT
    June 8, 2018 9:24 p.m.

    ''"They're fed up with dysfunction in Washington, fed up with Congress not getting anything done," like slow walking all the Judicial nominations? Schumer's Democrats calling for every hour of delay? 10 times the voting delay more than held against any previous President? Don't fill those Judges, is not the Repubicans doing.

  • OldSalt94 West Jordan, UT
    June 8, 2018 7:56 a.m.

    Where’s the third or fourth option? Somehow I was listed as unaffiliated from the major party and now have to go re-register at the clerks office to vote....Term Limits For U.S. Congress is sorely needed.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    June 7, 2018 2:53 p.m.

    I have to wonder how the role of race and gender play in the soft support for Mia Love. In reality, her voting record or pattern is basically the same as Stewart, Bishop and Chaffetz/Curtis on the House side or say Lee on the Senate side, but her office remains (more) vulnerable while the others get reelected in landslides.

  • kfbob Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2018 2:38 p.m.

    Obama: "You didn't build that", "those jobs are not coming back"

    "Obama's regulations in 2016 to drain economy by $2 trillion" -Washington times

    Obama said many times that manufacturing jobs were not coming back. He didn't seem to care about the economy, and talked a lot about "the new normal". I seems apparent to anyone in business or finance that when you get the Gov't and massive regulations out of the way the economy can do 3%+ GDP. Instead of giving our manufacturing jobs to Saltillo Mexico, and the TPP partners we actually have increased our manufacturing jobs since the repeal of these treaties and regulations. You didn't build that!

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2018 2:33 p.m.

    @unrepentant progressive
    "That Rep Love's polls show her in a tight race says something.-----And yet she is not running away with this race. Why?"
    I realize you are pontificating from Bozeman with no real knowledge of Utah politics, but Love's district is the most liberal in Utah It was created after the last census and has had only three office holders; Matheson once (who switched to this district because it was more winnable and whom Love lost to) and Love twice (love beating Owens both times, after Matheson didn't run again). The races in that district are always tight.

    @Kent C. DeForrest
    "Much of the good economic environment you cite is left over from Obama's good work"

    Thanks for making me laugh

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2018 2:15 p.m.

    McAdams backstabbing local leaders over the homeless issue should disqualify him for any office

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2018 1:56 p.m.

    No one votes for a person, we vote for an ideology If you vote Republican you are voting for the Conservative or Libertarian Ideology, if your Vote for a Democrat, you are voting for the Liberal, Socialist, Marxist, Communist ideology.

    The Democrat party of FDR, Harry Truman, John F Kennedy no longer exists.

  • Thomas Paine South Jordan, UT
    June 7, 2018 1:46 p.m.

    This statistical tie shows how close these two candidates currently are. Neither is great; both are pretty mediocre candidates. But if I had to pick between then, as a Republican, I would pick McAdams.

  • kfbob Salt Lake City, UT
    June 7, 2018 1:20 p.m.

    I struggle to understand anti-Trump voters in Utah. Dems say that trump is uncooth, he is crass, he has a big mouth.

    But when you talk about Obama and the current democrat platform of Partial Birth abortion (late term), homosexual marriage the silence is deafening.

  • birwin Herrmian, UT
    June 7, 2018 12:33 p.m.

    I predict a McAdams win - I think guesstimates for voters who will "probably" turn up to vote will be off due to the fire in the liberal belly. Expect people who are anti-trump to be more motivated this November.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 7, 2018 11:58 a.m.

    Flipphone - Do you understand the difference between a Librarian and a Libertarian? Most Librarians I know tend to be Socialists, having never had to work in the competitive capitalist workplace. Most Libertarians I know just want to be left alone and only vote Republican because they are closer to fiscal conservatism and social liberalism than the Democrats.

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2018 11:23 a.m.

    Ben McAdams is a good man as far as I can tell and overall has done a fine job managing the largest most diverse county in the state. We need more good men and women in congress. We need 0 people in congress that have similar morals/personality/ethics/history of the current president.

  • Gil Bates Mayfield, UT
    June 7, 2018 11:07 a.m.

    I like "None of the above," in this contest.

    Poll that!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 7, 2018 10:04 a.m.

    She stood too close to the President last week during the Photo-op session. At the Republican Conventions in the counties and even the State she acted as if she was a shoein to win and didn’t put a full effort in.

    The President can make all kinds of remarks about ethnic groups, women, minorities and people from specific areas of the world and countries, and she will not stand up to either defend those people or decry the President’s comments, sentiments or his policies.

    This state and her representatiion of Utah’s citizens have been fulfilled. Mitt Romney chose her as a speaker at his nominating convention in 2012, which was a mistake.

    He is not running very much of a campaign, either. His lack of posters and publicity statewide shows his not campaigning against Dr/Lawyer Mike Kennedy.

  • Romneyiswrongforutah Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2018 9:55 a.m.

    @JBs - Logan, UT

    Well, if he votes for Pelosi that's all I need to know to not vote for him

  • Thomas Jefferson Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 7, 2018 9:14 a.m.

    In my opinion Mia Love has spent all her time in congress sending me mailers telling me to re-elect her.

    OTOH by doing nothing at all at least she has been better than Chaffetz who spent all his time trying to get on TV and pandering to the ultra right.

  • dolce et decorum est Murray, UT
    June 7, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    Mia Love has taken Jason Chaffetz's place as co-chair of the Congressional Dietary Supplements Caucus. In other words, she uses the power given her by the people to work for multilevel marketing companies. She works to legalize activities that, in my opinion, are nothing more than pyramid schemes, grinding on the face of the poor and desperate. I could not, in good conscience, vote for Mia Love. Conversely, Ben McAdams has distinguished himself by his efforts to help the homeless, an issue that I also care about. This is an easy decision for me, I will be voting for Ben McAdams. Also, although not a Democrate, I will consider going door to door for his campaign.

  • John Brown 1000 Laketown, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:59 a.m.

    We have the best unemployment numbers we've had in decades.

    We have lower taxes and fewer unnecessary regulations on business.

    We're making great progress in our foreign relations.

    We're getting conservative judges appointed.

    We're finally starting to get action on a sensible immigration system.

    Do not cede the House to the Democrats. Put the country first.

    Love might not be perfect, but we're getting things done. It doesn't matter if Pelosi or some other Democrat is Speaker. If the House goes to the Democrats, they will do nothing but obstruct the conservative principles that are being enacted.

    If you care at all about conservative principles, you must vote Love.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:57 a.m.

    Ben McAdams would be considered conservative in any other place in the country. The only reason people are refusing to look at his record and all he has accomplished is because he isn't a Republican. That is ridiculous. Total partisanship and pathetic.

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    When you enter a voting booth your are voting for an Ideology, not a person. If the candidate is identified as a Republican,you are voting of either a conservative or a Librarian. If the candidate is identified as a Democrat, you are voting for either a Liberal, a Socialist, a Marxist or full blow communist.

    We all vote based on our Political Ideology, Not the person.

  • Ford DeTreese Provo, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:35 a.m.

    Without gerrymandering, this race would not even be close. McAdams would win by a landslide. The other three districts would obviously go Republican.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:33 a.m.

    If you are considering voting for Mia Love, remember that she voted in favor of the awful House health-care bill that would have stripped insurance coverage from over 20 million Americans. She has also supported the efforts to undermine the ACA. Love also voted in favor of the massive tax giveaway to the wealthy and to big corporations (my taxes, by contrast, will go up, even though I'm in the middle class). These tax cuts were unnecessary, because the economy was strong, and unwise, because they will add $1.9 trillion to the national debt, which the GOP always pretended to care about until they took control. Now we see their real priorities. Love has also not stood up to Trump for leaving the Paris climate agreement, for levying tariffs against our allies, or for repealing pollution regulations (among many other bad decisions). So, if you want to keep a Trump enabler in Congress, vote for Mia Love. The only way to rein in the Donald's terrible impulses is to vote Democrat. Period.

  • holy moly Herrmian, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    Find the candidate that will work for a balanced budget, lowering the debt and deficit, working for better health care (not removing health care, but tackling the core issue... prices), Supporting environmental issues by working to reduce toxic emissions and not voting party lines. I think I found that person when looking at these two candidate's resumes.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:23 a.m.

    I am so glad I don't have to vote for that race. I'd have to skip it.

    Mia's an amnesty sell out. Ben gave us the homeless mess in Salt Lake County.

    This is gong to be a LONG campaign season if the newspapers are already hyping "too close to call" when there's five months of issues ahead of us. The press just loves political campaigns.

  • Makid Kearns, UT
    June 7, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    For some, they will only vote for someone with an (R) next to their name. Party before Country.

    Others claim that (D) means they will vote for Pelosi, without proof. Jim Matheson didn't vote for Pelosi as Speaker, why would McAdams? Because Love says so? Or because someone with an (R) says so?

    We need to stop putting Party before Country. It doesn't matter which party it is. If politicians can't work together, they need to leave. Look at the retirements this year. More are retiring from the (R) than (D) mainly because they can't and won't defend the Administration. It is sad that they would rather obstruct the other party than to stand up and defend or even stand up against their own party. Again, it is due to Party over Country.

    Once this concept is gone, civil discourse will return and civil dialog will return and an open exchange of ideas will be celebrated rather than ridiculed, such as "Their first vote will be for X...".

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    June 7, 2018 7:17 a.m.

    Mia lost her Koch brother donor and position paper writer. She has nothing to say if it isn't scripted.

  • Lolly Lehi, UT
    June 7, 2018 7:09 a.m.

    Although interesting, I have my doubts that it is that close.

    I believe the greater concern right now is who will cast their ballots in the Primary election. Not whom will they vote for, but will they cast their ballots and be a part of the process or sit back and complain later.

  • TMR Pasadena, CA
    June 7, 2018 7:06 a.m.

    In terms of leadership and competency, McAdams clearly has the advantage. Those voters who are concerned about the “Pelosi” vote have not been paying attention. McAdams has announced he would not vote for her. I hope Utahans vote for the best candidate and not blindly the whomever has the (R) next to their name.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    June 7, 2018 7:02 a.m.

    Nothing more than Fake News to make liberals feel good and discourage conservatives. No one at DN will point back to this outrageous report and misleading headline in November when Love wins by a very substantial margin. Been here, seen this, know better. This is one more reason we just do not trust the MSM anymore.

  • ERB Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 7, 2018 7:01 a.m.

    I fully expect an easy victory for Love, or anyone running against McAdams in this district. He's no centrist. Way too liberal to win. I'm sure he's going to run saying he's going to work with both sides of the aisle, but his history is as a far Left winger can't be hidden . Love isn't perfect either, but she'll vote with the President. That's enough for me.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    June 7, 2018 6:51 a.m.

    That Rep Love's polls show her in a tight race says something.

    She is running for a seat in a really, really Red state. She is boosted constantly by this paper. She has fuzzed up some of her conservative bona fides with a position or two that places her outside the GOP mainstream (in an effort to appeal to "independents", whoever that is in Utah). She is a woman in a year when women will be favored.

    And yet she is not running away with this race. Why?

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    June 7, 2018 6:44 a.m.

    Big Spender Ben, another slick liberal lawyer going to help us out of our money.

    High property taxes in Salt Lake County

    More and more County spending under Ben, the Liberal lawyer.

    $8 million wasted on Mountain Accord proposing sweet Public land trades for 4 rich ski resorts and massive canyon development.

    If you want BIG gov't. Ben the liberal lawyer is your man.

    If you smaller gov't. Mia is your woman.

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    June 7, 2018 5:21 a.m.

    another lose/lose choice for voters.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    June 6, 2018 10:52 p.m.

    This is a great headline for Oct. 20, year 2018. Let us enjoy summer now.

  • mightymite , 00
    June 6, 2018 10:15 p.m.

    can we get a worthy candidate here. These folks make Mitt look good. Sad as to what our choices our.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    June 6, 2018 10:00 p.m.

    @slcman: "Love has an R after her name. That's all you need to know."

    By the same token, McAdams has a D after his name and would cast his first vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House. That is more than enough to know he has no business representing Utah.

    For more details we might look at the horrible way SLCo and SLC have handled the homeless, mental illness, and drug addiction & dealer problems.

    We could consider how, under his leadership, the SLCo council just voted to enact a massive tax increase that their constituents have already rejected. That the council did so in a cowardly manner to try to deny responsibility is even worse.

    Then there is the new developer-UTA-insider-benefiting vote to rezone the area near Herriman and South Jordan for the highest density housing in all of Utah, with few jobs nearby, small roads, and a horrible commute through existing communities to get work centers in downtown SLC today or even Silicon Slopes tomorrow.

    So on what policies would non-SLC residents of the district consider voting for McAdams?

  • Utah_Happyman Orem, UT
    June 6, 2018 9:59 p.m.

    Balance is needed...who will represent the Independents...?

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2018 9:45 p.m.

    We need politicians that have the courage to stand up and do the right thing these days. Stand up for country over party. They are very few and far between. Most are either too far left or too far right.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    June 6, 2018 9:34 p.m.

    Nothing against her personally.
    But. please let us get Republicans out (Democrats as well) who have stood by while our president has made a mockery out of our democratic process, values, ethics, and who has appointed so many crooked people to help him do this. They have stood by while he has undermined and destroyed morale and work at our intelligence agencies and undermined our relationship with our allies. They have stood by while he has publically humiliated our first lady at every turn. He is the first president that has made lying to the public an every day habit. He did this daily during his campaign and they didn't care then either. They have stood by while he has used his public office to work deal after deal to bring millions and millions of dollars to his and his families businesses.

    When you can stand by and watch all this happen day in and day out because you put party before country and do not have the courage to stand up and do the right thing you do not deserve to be in office. Anyone that does this, Republican or Democrat.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    June 6, 2018 9:21 p.m.

    DN Subscriber- So, what McAdams did with the Rio Grande dispersal of the homeless, infecting many places in the county is good management? That is the specific reason I will vote against him. Not for Love because of her DACA leanings. There are other choices. How about no more professional politicians?

  • slcman SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 6, 2018 9:07 p.m.

    Love has an R after her name. That's all you need to know.

  • Romneyiswrongforutah Sandy, UT
    June 6, 2018 8:27 p.m.

    I remember Mia Love's first debate with Jim Matheson. She is a terrible debator, but I support her over Mcsadams.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 6, 2018 8:17 p.m.

    Love's past supporters are less enthusiastic about her now because she has failed to take a strong position on key Republican and conservative issues.
    Her voting for bloated and unnecessary Omnibus appropriations bills instead of forcing Congress to vote on individual bills ("shutting down the government" according to Democrats who won't allow the votes) has weakened her support.

    Her current efforts to get a DACA "fix" passed without first addressing the key issue of border security and enforcement is another issue which make supporters unhappy.

    If she is going to vote like a Democrat, they why vote for her.

    McAdams has done a great job with the County, and he deserves credit for that. However, his first vote would be for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker and that alone is reason enough to vote against him.

    The key is for Love to tell people why they should vote for her instead of staying home.

  • FelisConcolor Layton, UT
    June 6, 2018 6:32 p.m.

    Mia Love's 47% support represents near the low point of her support. McAdam's 43% represents the near the high point of his support.

    Barring a credible 3-party candidate, almost all of those undecideds will break for Love, and she will win by at least 8 percent.