There's such (over) sensitivity. If someone said something like that about
me, I'd say 'whatever' or nothing and not worry about it. And no--racism doesn't sell in this country; it's quite the
@rdean92 Congratulations; you came up with ONE name (besides Rosanne) of a
leftist that was fired for her grotesque comments (who now claims to be the
victim). I quit counting at 39 who didn't get fired. (Kevin Spacey was
fired for behavior, not words - Harvey Milk had his Kevin Spacey type behavior
glossed over for left wing political reasons - but that is entirely another
story)@GaryO ""However ABC demeans its own credibility
for not also firing Jimmy Kimmel over equally or greater egregious sins"
Please expound on that comment"Like Rosanne, Kimmel is on ABC-
he mocked Melania Trump's accent and implied a derogatory gay relationship
between Trump and Sean Hannity. Racist and homophobic. ABC also has religion
bashing Joy Behar.ABC is owned by Disney who also owns ESPN who employs
race baiting Kieth Olberman and Jemele Hill.Bob Iger is head of Disney,
who considered a Democratic run for president - if he is truly concerned about
Rosanne's racism - then why is Iger virtue signaling regarding Rosanne (a
left wing, green party candidate, Trump supporter) and not Kimmel, Olberman,
Hill or Behar who otherwise support Iger's causes
@Counter Intelligence..Kathy Griffin was fired for her display.If an actor, on a TV Show or Movie about to be released, did the same -
they would be likely fired. Like Kevin Spacey, for example. What is that list
you came up with?
ESPN (owned by ABC) has several announcers that are stridently anti-white. They
get second, third, fourth, and fifth chances. Why does Rosanne only get one?Haven't seen the show, but it had really good ratings. I can see
someone snapping it up as a bargain, then making mint on it.
Are there really people commenting/debating, on this day of our lord in the year
two thousand and eighteen, whether “racist” is appropriate when
someone calls a black person an ape?
Re: "'abhorrent' and 'racist' comments."Roseanne is just as classy as Donald! And of course, they are both PROUD of
their disgusting behavior.It's a new world, and the GOP is a
whole new party, isn't it?The lack of morality and the lack of
true Christian virtues has become a hall mark of Donald Trump and his party.Hey Counter Intelligence -Re: "However ABC demeans its
own credibility for not also firing Jimmy Kimmel over equally or greater
egregious sins"Please expound on that comment.BTW .
. . Doesn't the United States demean ITS credibility by not firing Donald
Trump and the Republican party?
@ worf"Let's not play innocent. Can't miss it. Ever
seen the View? Good Morning America? Late night shows? NFL players not standing
for the National Anthem?What are ABC's values?Do
the homework!"It would be simple (if you were telling the truth)
to post quotes which you think support your statement. But you still cant back
up your claim so you deflect...again. I am not surprised. Your
opinions are tainted by your commitment to party politics and you will continue
to use cognitive dissonance to keep it that way. And to compare
"NFL players not standing for the National Anthem" to horribly racist
tweets is pathetic.Where does this "Comment included personal
attacks, name-calling, epithets, racial slurs or other derogatory
I feel like a broken record. This is NOT a free speech issue, folks. A private
corporation has every right to fire or discipline an employee or contractor that
engages in words or behavior they believe doesn't represent their brand in
a positive light. The law protects you from government reciprocity, no more, no
less.The ridiculousness here is that ABC would be so obtuse in
believing they could bring back someone like Roseann and have her magically
behave and speak kind words. That is just hysterical. ABC is right to let her
go, but they were extremely naive...or maybe hopelessly optimistic that Barr
wouldn't go right back to her antics.Finally, it's really
hard to believe that there are commentators here that are actually trying to
defend the filth she tweeted. She has every right to say/tweet it, and we (and
ABC) has every right to abhor and distance ourselves from it. Even Barr
apologized and realized it was in poor taste, yet there are still people
defending it...hard to believe.
What Rosanne said was really bad, but it isn't the worst thing I have heard
on ABC. Nope all you have to do, to out do that comment, is listen to Joy
Behar on THE VIEW. ABC is a hypocrite for not firing her and yet firing Rosanne
. Joy has made some AWFUL comments but because so many of them are against the
President or a Republican, they allow her to carry on and stay on air. This is
a disgrace as well. I think they should put Rosanne back on air until they fire
Joy and then I might not disagree with what they did. I can't stand
Valerie Jarret she did a lot of bad things behind the scenes in my opinion.
The most despicable thing about firing Rosanne is that ABC leaves Joy Behar on
the air and she has spewed out some very ugly comments about the President and
many others. She has freedom to make any remark but Rosanne who made one and
then apologized just like Joy does got fired. It is all a hypocrisy game and
ABC is the main offender as I see it.
Free speech is only for Democrats,Liberals,Socialist and Marxist.
Poor Rosanne. She was under the mistaken impression that she could
engage in blatantly racist and anti-Muslim slurs and that Americans would
generally be fine with it. In fact, she may have reasonably
presumed that she would be rewarded for saying this stuff. As in more social
media followers, bigger crowds coming to see her speak, and volunteers and
donors who want to help her to win an elected office, such as the Presidency.Rosanne has every right to be confused as to why things changed back so
suddenly. Is Trump okay? Do his supporters know?
There are some people of all races, cultures, and groups that pride themselves
on being offensive, vulgar, and racist. Hollywood and the entertainment industry
are but one example. Rosanne is paying a price for hers. But, look at the
musicians that are never called on it and continue to make millions from doing
this. Here is a list of the worst. :1. Lil Wayne2. Snoop Dogg3. Jay Z4. 2Pac5. DMX6. Eminem7. Rick Ross8.
Busta Rhymes9. 50 Cent10. Ice CubeThere are politicians who do
the same thing and get away with it. They are still in office. One leads our
country.We should hold ALL people responsible for this kind of
behavior. Our society certainly needs less of it, not more. We need to get out
of the race to the bottom and shift people to a race to the top of good and
So Donald Trump is a big fan of Rosanne Barr who grabbed her midsection during
the anthem. But when African Americans peacefully kneel during the anthem they
are unAmerican according to him?Seems Rosanne and Trump are echoing
decades old negative attitudes toward minorities and diverse groups and
individuals. Please, will people stand up against these horrible and
unChristian attitudes and racism.
So I am really looking forward to the networks that cover the NFL to cancel
their shows, yeah, no more having to see prejudiced and disrespect. The View too
I hope. I guess were going Soviet.
@Tolstoy,Let's not play innocent. Can't miss it. Ever seen
the View? Good Morning America? Late night shows? NFL players not standing for
the National Anthem?What are ABC's values?Do the
Roseanne looks attractive in this fotohaven't seen or heard from her
in yearssomeone said "20 years ago".looks better today then
in 1990s+beautiful smooth skinlovely hair, color looks natural to
mebut she was always offensiveno matter what she did or
saidit was off the wallpushing if not in fact vulgaroffensiveinsensitivecrassgood-byeagainnot
a fan thennot any different todaybye
@Brent T. Aurora CO - Aurora, CO"You are correct that in this
instance, and most instances like this, no one is being jailed, fined or muzzled
by the government."Great! So her first amendment rights were not
violated. Does the first amendment state that the media owe her a platform? That
we are not allowed to be critical of what she says? Yes it is sad that others
lost their jobs do to her bigotry but she should have thought of that before she
cthulhu_fhtagn & furymouse Unfortunately there are no tools here
to use underline, bold or italics, as well as limited use of punctuation. You
missed my point. You are correct that in this instance, and most instances like
this, no one is being jailed, fined or muzzled by the government. But media is
powerful -- it fills our homes and lives; it is our window to the world and
influences generations. Especially, increasingly now -- where the obscure and
unvetted is presented as normal and an accurate portrayal which becomes a
self-fulfilling new reality. And thus educated, we slide down a slippery slope
where those raised in this climate come to think that government should do
something about things people say.And so almost daily talking heads
and bloggists decry what someone said, blowing it out of proportion, encouraging
public outcry... in this case the insensitive remarks of one person (known for
such things) who should be ignored and dismissed*, causes the unemployment of an
entire cast, production crew and sponsors.*Versus being quoted in
this story. Most who watch the show (I don't) would otherwise be unaware
of her comment.
@worfSo instead of providing requested evidence to support your claims
about ABC news you are going to make the same claims about other shows on ABC?
@Brent T."Exactly what does freedom of speech mean? "It means the U.S. government cannot mandate that Roseanne be terminated
for her comments.
Roseanne has made her position clear. She is an unabashed Trump supporter. And
he has been one of hers, calling her to congratulate her on the success of her
revamped show, and also bragging about its ratings at one of his re-election
rallies. She may not be a conservative, and I don't think she
is because the GOP used to be the party of values rather than policies. Of
course, maybe she is one of the new Conservatives, who now value policy over
@ Brent T. AuroraThe constitutionally protected freedom of speech
does not mean you are free from retribution. Have you ever read the
constitution? You have no right to say what you want without criticism.
What is abhorrent is the hypocrisy of ABC! How many off-color and insulting
jokes do they televise by late night comedians on regular basis? Answer - a lot.
What about the raunchy and pornographic type dialogues and
offensive images they portray all the time on ABC TV dramas?Where is
the hue and cry over all of this other tasteless and offensive material?This is just more political correctness posturing as ABC and their other
liberal media cohorts continue to pander to an amoral society at the expense of
our first amendment rights! And no, I don't condone racist comments by
Roseanne or anyone else.When ABC and the other mainstream media
outlets start showing some "moral correctness" initiatives in what they
televise, then they can start being the free speech police out there.
@Worf: Did you forget Roseanne's infamous "Star Spangled Banner"
which was far more disrespectful than any football player kneeling.This is not a conservative or liberal issue. Bill Maher got kicked off of
"Politically Incorrect" for his his insensitive comments after 911.I just feel sorry for the other actors and film and production staff who
lost their job because of Roseanne's stunt.
Exactly what does freedom of speech mean? Although, based on the social studies,
civics and Amercian History courses taken in elementary, secondary and
collegiate years pointing to its primary purpose as being such, clearly it
doesn't cover speech that isn't politically correct.Beware, because here we are amidst the slippery sliding slope of losing yet
another Constitutional right as we grow increasingly intolerant of the expressed
opinions and commentary of others; or more specifically, their right to do so
Well said, Cougsndawgs.ABC cancelling Roseanne—Fine with me.
Never liked her, never will. Couldn’t stand her show. Her mouth getting
her into trouble was a little quicker than I thought, but nevertheless
inevitable. I can’t understand her state of mind that she could make such
an asinine comment.Come on, Ernest, show me anywhere where Trump
agreed with her Tweet. Or is this just another ad hominem attack.Love how the left folk on here like to label her as conservative. Not hardly!
worf.."I've heard worse things from ABC news. What values do they
have?"You've heard something worse than calling an African
American an Ape on ABC news. I'm calling baloney on that comment. Look in the mirror at what you're defending here.
It's ok for Good Morning America to dish out vile statements and no one is
fired. What about the 'View'?
Thank you, ABC, for canceling that awful show. For a change, let's have
some refinement instead of vulgarity!
Of course a very liberal actor makes racist's comment and all trump hating
posters some how tie this into trump - hilarious.Giving the fact
that roseanne is a comedian she has been known to say very controversial things
in the past she has said far worse than this, dispicable yes, should we be
surprised, no.Although I personally do not condone racist coomments
like hers but one must consider who the target of those comments are, and
possibly a motive for those comments.Valerie Jarret background comes
from ties to the muslim brotherhood, the same muslim brotherhood that has been
linked to the arab spring in the middle east during oblama's tenure as
potus, the same arab spring that spawned the destabilization of the middle east
who have ties to terror organizations.Valerie Jarret' father
was a member of the MB, and valerie was oblama's top advisor, it also must
be made known that oblama had leaders of the MB as frequent guest's at the
whitehouse.Also one should consider that our allies france, england
even saudi arabia consider the MB a terrorist organization, england has banned
them from their country....hmmm
@pragmatistferlife: "Calling a liar, a liar, a cheater, a cheater and a
bigot, a bigot is not abhorrent."If the liar, cheat, or bigot
happens to be liberal it is proclaimed abhorrent by the left.If the
left leaning liar, cheat, or bigot, happens to be a woman, racial minority, or
sexual minority, then any criticism or accurate assessment if their performance
or character will be cast as a bigoted attack of some sort be it sexism, racism,
or homophobia. If the target is not a liberal, then everything becomes fair
game.Notice how often and by how many people Justice Clarence Thomas
has been called an "uncle Tom" with absolute impunity. In stark
contrast, pointing out a liberal's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is
verboten. Criticizng the Muslim Brotherhood actually is will not be permitted at
all.The same people who talked about what one expects when dragging
a $100 bill through a trailer park while Bill Clinton was governor and then
President, now hammer Trump over 10 year old locker room talk before he ever ran
for office.To deny the double standard is to support, embrace, and
condone the double standard.
Impartial7:"Right wingers don't get that Freedom of Speech, is
not free from consequences."Uh...no. Your bias is showing. First
of all, your characterization of Roseann as a conservative is hysterical and
woefully inaccurate (being a Trumpite doesn't make you conservative).
Second of all, this isn't a "winger" problem, this is an
uneducated, both-sides-of-the-aisle problem. See, "left wingers"
don't understand that you can't block speakers on government
subsidized campuses because you don't agree with them or deem their ideas
"hate speech" based on the biased opinions of the gossip column. I guess you could call me a "middle-winger"...I'm not
foolish enough to pander to either the right or the left. But I do wish people
on both sides of the aisle would use truth and logic instead of slinging biased
remarks at each other based on the initial behind their name.
@Impartial"And, to the commentators that think this is due to
her conservative politics, you're wrong."I agree. This
isn't due to her "conservative politics." However, it's
because she's not conservative. She ran for the Green Party presidential
nomination. She was involved with left wing political parties. She was involved
in Occupy Wall Street. She voted for Pres. Obama. She's spent a life
supporting progressive policies. She is a (non-traditional) liberal
celebrity.She also voted for Pres. Trump but that wasn't
because she somehow became conservative. Pres. Trump is not a conservative and
doesn't represent conservative values. He does some things that pander to
conservatives but that's another discussion.I only hope that
the appropriate response by ABC to cancel the show is similarly applied to other
celebrities who make offensive statements about race, sex, sexual orientation,
religion, politics (liberal or conservative), or just about any other
categorization. Hopefully people will learn to be more civil.
She was talentless and classless when she was “a liberal” and she is
talentless and classless as “conservative.” Some things just are
what they are.
Roseanne cancelled. Next Trump.She has only herself to blame. It
was unnecessary for her to act that way.
@pragmatistferlife" "Sad that if it were a liberal celebrity
that said the same thing about Pres Trump - there would be no reaction
whatsoever."You know this how? "Meryl StreepGeorge LopezRobert De NeroAmy SchumerMiley CyrusCherMadonnaAshley JuddBarbara StreisandWhoopi
GoldbergJoy BeharLady GagaLena DunhamSamuel JacksonNe-YoBryan CranstonChelsea HandlerOlivia WildeLee
DanielsMark RuffaloAmerica FerreraShonda RhimesStephen
KingSusan SarandonJohn Legend Jack BlackSarah
SilvermanJohn OliverBen StillerJ.K. RowlingGeorge
ClooneyJennifer LawrenceJohnny DeppLouis C.K.Russell
Simmons ShakiraRichard GereRosie O'DonnellBette
Speaking of disrespecting the flag...How about Roseanne's rendition of the
Star Spangled Banner. Now that she's unemployed maybe trump
can hire her to sing at the next campaign rally since so many of his supporters
love her so much.
@ TexasBlue"Sad that if it were a liberal celebrity that said
the same thing about Pres Trump - there would be no reaction whatsoever."That's actually not true. There'd be millions of likes, thumbs
up, retweets and kudos from the all-hating, anti-Trump left.
It's comical that anyone actually thinks Roseanne is a conservative. This
is just what happens when you tweet under the influence.
@worf'I've heard worse things from ABC news"really? please do tell use what you heard on ABC news that you think was worse
then making blatantly racist comments.
@worf;"Where is freedom of speech? And it's ok to disrespect the
flag?"She has freedom of speech. Right wingers don't get
that Freedom of Speech, is not free from consequences. I challenge you to go to
your place of employment and make racist statements and see how long you last
(unless you work in the White House).Disrespect the flag? Did you see
Roseanne's National Anthem decades ago. Talk about disrespect.
I thought they hired Rosanne Barr in the first place because she offended
people. I guess it was the wrong people this time?
@worfIn what way is the gov't infringing upon her freedom of
I am so sick and tired of people who are offended by anything that they
don't like. Social media is an arena where people spend most of their time
offending someone else. I'm glad I don't do twitter, facebook,
instagram or whatever else is available. We have become a nation of childish
Not properly vetting before you launch a new show. This is a Management
mistake.I think everyone knew Ms. Barr would offend no matter what
direction she took.I think many of the late night comedian's
deserve the same treatment for some of the comments they make about groups and
individuals. However they really are playing to the elites in the industry so
they will be shielded. Divisiveness is considered destructive, racist, and
unacceptable if it offends you but funny if it offends those you disagree
with.Just check comments about any article. The banter and such
that goes on all day long because of the Masks that all can put on to hide who
they are and say the most horrible things. Anonymity emboldens the
Worf, can you provide an example of when ABC - the corporation - issued
something as racist as Roseanne's statement. And please provide a link to
your reference. Thanks
Where is freedom of speech? And it's ok to disrespect the flag?
"Sad that if it were a liberal celebrity that said the same thing about Pres
Trump - there would be no reaction whatsoever."You know this
how? Calling a liar, a liar, a cheater, a cheater and a bigot, a
bigot is not abhorrent.What is sad is that the right finds it's
self in the position of defending all the above even if by deflection. What
happened to the party of Lincoln that you all refer to so often.
Not to worry, the Fox network will pick up the show.
The only surprising thing about this entire debacle is that ABC rebooted
"Roseanne" in the first place. And, to the commentators that think this
is due to her conservative politics, you're wrong. Most decent people,
regardless of political leanings, find her racist, demeaning statements
offensive. ABC had no choice, they'd never find enough advertisers willing
to pay their bills for that show. As it should be.
I've heard worse things from ABC news. What values do they have?
Sad that if it were a liberal celebrity that said the same thing about Pres
Trump - there would be no reaction whatsoever.
Roseanne's lack of understanding of just how offensive her posted words
were going to be — fits right in with the person she is. It's also
going to cost her millions of dollars.Her tweet is going to haunt
her for the rest of her life and she will never again have her own TV series.
Unfortunately, a lot of good people are also going to lose their jobs over her
Good for ABC. There's no place for such ugly racism in our society.
Fair enoughBut to maintain any semblance of credibility, ABC should also
fire Jimmy KimmelAccepting race-baiting, homo-bullying or feminist
condescension as a viable alternative to racism, homo-intolerance (questioning
is not a phobia) or sexism is not really an alternative - it is just a mirror
Fired for tweeting mean attacks and untruths should become the new standard. For
everyone. Also, incredibly ironic.
Wow, she's had quite the roller-coaster. 20 years ago she offended
everyone, especially conservatives, for how disrespectfully she sang the
National Anthem now she's showing her true colors again by being an awful
racist. Hard to believe anyone would agree with her tweet but there
he is, in the White House.
Those who live by the sword die by the sword.
This and conspiracy theory junk are pretty much the M.O. for her social media
presence, is anybody really surprised that this happened? I mean, I figured
it'd take a season or two before she said something to get the show
canceled but lets remember, the original didn't end because it was
unpopular. It ended because she was hard to work with for the studios.
Way to go ABC. Its great to see a company walk the talk and actually not
profit off bigotry and racism.