Romney: Jeffress wrong man to give Jerusalem embassy prayer

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  • MikeVike66 St. George, UT
    May 16, 2018 6:41 p.m.

    CMTM-

    And you're implying what?????

  • sashabill Morgan Hill, CA
    May 16, 2018 11:25 a.m.

    According to Jeffress' brand of Christianity, then, all of the hundreds of millions of Muslims in the Middle East, Hindus in India, Buddhists in S.E. Asia, Confucianists in China, or Shintoists in Japan, are all summarily condemned to eternal, everlasting hell for no fault of their own (and without regard to their personal deeds or character)? And they call that a religion or a God of love?

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    May 15, 2018 5:03 p.m.

    CMTM

    "Jesus "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”.(John 14:6)

    Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. (John 3:18)

    Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him." (John 3:36)"

    OK, I can see why you folks are so "God Fearin' "

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    May 15, 2018 7:38 a.m.

    Does it strike any of the 'faithful' that any adherent of any religion is a 'religious bigot'? Mormons are certainly no less bigoted than, say, Southern Baptists, or Muslims, or, Russian Orthodox, et cetera. It is about beliefs that you hold, that are not held by others. Hypocrisy is the word of the day with Romney.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 15, 2018 7:17 a.m.

    @ HS Tucker

    "after the way Romney himself bore such an unprecedentedly vicious, unchristian, false witness against Trump for twenty minutes straight,"

    Of course Romney's comments rankled Trump's hardline supporters. Facts are painful sometimes. But as far as anything Romney said being " unprecedentedly vicious, unchristian, false witness" against Trump, why don't you pull up that transcript and provide us concrete examples?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 15, 2018 7:06 a.m.

    The move was for the evangelical base.

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    May 14, 2018 9:43 p.m.

    Mitt got it half right. Any minister, rabbi, iman, priest is the wrong "man" to give any US embassy prayer. Our secular embassies belong to our secular State Department, an agency of our Secular executive branch, a branch of the United States of America which is not, "in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" or any other religion. There should have been NO prayer of any shape, form or fashion.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    May 14, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    I can see I am not alone in noting the incredible hypocrisy of Romney's rant.

    He may be a faithful LDS member, but he is one horrible politician.

  • HSTucker Holladay, UT
    May 14, 2018 4:40 p.m.

    "Mitt Romney's condemnation of Pastor Jeffress, and of Trump, by implication, is hypocritical in the extreme -- after the way Romney himself bore such an unprecedentedly vicious, unchristian, false witness against Trump for twenty minutes straight, at the University of Utah a couple of years ago."

    Exactly right. Once again, Mr. Romney has embarrassed himself and needlessly subjected Latter-day Saints to national criticism. Mr. Romney, please go home and stay there.

    Kennedy for Senate!

  • Mark Terran Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 4:20 p.m.

    @Wasatch Al

    "How long will many Mormons continue to idealize a president who does not respect their religion?"

    Frankly, LDS Church members have Zero room to complain about either Trump or Jeffress -- after the way several, prominent LDS voices effectively disseminated, loudly, to all the World, during the Presidential Campaign, the same, anti-Christ message: The Atonement of Jesus Christ is of Zero possible efficacy in the matter of a comment made on a bus, eleven years ago, notwithstanding Trump's own, specific testimony of his own faith in Christ, and much good fruit meet for that testimony. (And, no; I do not believe "Stormy's" claims, so don't even bother with that.)

    And Mitt Romney's condemnation of Pastor Jeffress, and of Trump, by implication, is hypocritical in the extreme -- after the way Romney himself bore such an unprecedentedly vicious, unchristian, false witness against Trump for twenty minutes straight, at the University of Utah a couple of years ago.

    Instead of reveling in and playing on persecution complexes, perhaps some LDS members ought to take a look at the Christian message of the Book of Mormon and consider how, why and when they went off the rails.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    May 14, 2018 4:04 p.m.

    But I thought mindless fear and hatred were accepted GOP values these days. How can they hope to advance the conservative cause without them?

  • Wasatch Al South Jordan, UT
    May 14, 2018 2:07 p.m.

    Trump approves a prayer by a preacher who openly despises Mormonism. How long will many Mormons continue to idealize a president who does not respect their religion? He has disrespected other groups: women and the disabled, e.g. Will Mormons be next?

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 1:11 p.m.

    Of course every religion thinks that they are the correct religion and every other religion that has ever existed is wrong.

    Seems rather arrogant, I'd say.

    And along those lines, would it be safe to say that every religious person on this board is an atheist of a type? They don't believe in the millions or billions or trillions of other gods of all other religions.

    To the Christian faithful: I just believe in one less god than you do. Not so much difference between you and me.

  • CMTM , 00
    May 14, 2018 1:09 p.m.

    RE: Utah Girl Chronicles -. “Historic Christianity has taught for 2,000 years that salvation is through faith in Christ alone. The fact that I, along with tens of millions of evangelical Christians around the world, continue to espouse that belief, is neither bigoted nor newsworthy,” Jeffress E.g…,

    Jesus "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”.(John 14:6)

    Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is already condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. (John 3:18)

    Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him." (John 3:36)

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 14, 2018 12:55 p.m.

    The preacher in question is a kook . . . A nut. He is intolerant. He is anti-American. He is anti-Mormon.

    He is the PERFECT man to represent Donald Trump and the millions of Evangelicals who want Jerusalem back in the hands of Israelis.

    Why must Jerusalem be in the hands of the Israelis?

    . . . To fulfill Biblical prophecy.

    And then Jesus can return . . . AFTER Armageddon of course, and the population of most of the world is wiped out.

    How can Romney say the preacher in question isn't the perfect person to deliver the embassy prayer?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    May 14, 2018 11:52 a.m.

    Based on recent insight, maybe the decision of who to send to give this prayer wasn't Trump's to make.

    Mitt Romney himself was vetoed for becoming Secretary of State... by the same nation that Mueller gave a number of indictments for their role in sowing discord here in America.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    May 14, 2018 11:16 a.m.

    Imagine the conservative hand-wringing if Obama has sent Rev. Jeremiah Wright to an event like that. As it is, the real news story isn't about how the most divisive president in US history sent a "divider" to represent the USA at that ceremony. The news story would be if he didn't.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:48 a.m.

    Impartial, your second to the last statement is sadly very inaccurate. And you most likely know that. Not going to get into a debate with you about Mormon theology on this issue.

    Jeffries is just like his old boss Criswell. Two peas in the same pod. Religious bigots both.

    I know this because I used to live in Dallas.

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:37 a.m.

    "But Romney, and all mormons don't believe that jews and muslims can go to the celestial kingdom-right? By his own definition, doesn't that make Romney a religious bigot?"

    but, as the saying goes, "That's different."

    I've never found a religion that wasn't bigoted against other religions or non-religious people.

    Religion is and always has been the great divider among people and countries. More so than anything else I can think of.

    Religious people have no accountability. They are either doing something for god, or god will forgive them.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:31 a.m.

    And when Donald and his sycophants attacked and belittled other religions, countries and cultures very little was said by Romney. If Utah elects Romney we will have enabled the greatest waffle maker ever elected in our states history.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:11 a.m.

    "Romney said, "Robert Jeffress says 'you can't be saved by being a Jew,' and 'Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.' He's said the same about Islam."

    Romney, and all mormons, don't believe that jews and muslims can enter the celestial kingdom. How is what Jeffres said any different?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    May 14, 2018 10:02 a.m.

    "Senate candidate Mitt Romney of Utah says a prominent Baptist minister shouldn't be giving the prayer that opens the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem because he's a "religious bigot."
    "Romney said, "Robert Jeffress says 'you can't be saved by being a Jew,' and 'Mormonism is a heresy from the pit of hell.' He's said the same about Islam."

    But Romney, and all mormons don't believe that jews and muslims can go to the celestial kingdom-right? By his own definition, doesn't that make Romney a religious bigot?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2018 9:40 a.m.

    This was a big deal for the Donald and he made sure his base got the prewacher that would please them.