Does it matter if the new speaker is Democrat or Republican? What has either of
these parties done for America other than steal from some and give it to
others?If either Democrats or Republicans opposed out of controlled
deficit spending, they could have done it. But they didn't.Democrat or Republican control doesn't matter. They are both the same
thing! What's the difference between Chuck Shumer and John
McCain?Bush, Clinton, and Obama did nothing to secure our borders,
improve education, or promote prosperity.After spending billions on
education we have a large portion of Americans on government assistance. We
should get a refund.Crazy, but many are blaming Trump. Perhaps we
should go back to the way it was.
I don't feel that his departure has actually 'hurt' the nation,
@2bits: "Tolerance... That's all I'm asking for. Is that too much
to ask?"Yes it is, actually. Germans "tolerated"
Hitler's bullying, racism, & "above the law"-mentality that led
his power-hungry coalition to enact crimes against humanity on a scale never
before seen in history. Italians tolerated Mussolini's narcissistic
braggadocio, & his failed policies brought them to their knees. Napolean
claimed to be a savior to the powerless French peasantry, then set himself up as
emperor. I could go on--Stalin, Mao, Milosevic, Putin, etc.--they all began w/o
the inherited power of royalty--they all had opportunities to have their evil
dictatorships held in ck if citizens & gov't leaders had not supported
them in their horrible ideas.But the saying "All it takes for
evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing" is epitomized no better than
in Ryan, someone who ran in 2012 as a man of "virtue" & "good
character" & who has shown thru his apathy & lack of backbone during
Trump's presidency that he's not fit to lead.We live in a
democracy--we don't have to "tolerate" anyone who's so clearly
unfit to represent our ideals as Trump is. Our duty as citizens is, in fact, the
@LOURE: "Just imagine if an Obama Supporter said such a
thing"...---Irony #1Obama's Enemy comment was
the pointIrony #2I said such a thing when Obama was President
(I'm not your enemy), nothing happened.I asked for less
partisan vitriol when Obama was President. And when Bush was President.I know some Americans fought Obama's agenda. But they didn't
try to destroy him, get other nations to not support him. Remove him from
office early, etc.I was never a fan of Obama's policies, but I
accepted his election, accepted him as my President, and supported him as
President. I didn't try to destroy him, remove him from office early, try
to delegitimize his election, not support him, or try to sabotage our President.
Hillary Clinton called half of the American people her Enemy too...
That's partly why she lost I think.I would have supported her
as President if she won.That's kinda what we do as Americans.
We accept the election, and the new President. Even if we didn't vote for
them.Tolerance... That's all I'm asking for. Is that too
much to ask?Trump may not be like you. We still tolerate him. I
think we tolerate all people (even ones we don't like).
@2bits "What do you suggest young tax payers, kids who are just about to
become tax payers do... just keep funding this program knowing it won't be
there when they need it?"But there are easy fixes readily
available. It's all a matter of will. Social Security can be with us for
generations, and it needs to be.
"He's not your "Enemy". Nor am I."Just imagine
if an Obama Supporter said such a thing.
Ryan, you retire after 20 years on the government dole with a $79,000.00 annual
pension and free health care for life. During that time your personal wealth
increased by millions.You, Mr. Ryan just mentioned that you are sad
that your goal to gut Social Securty and Medicare was not realized. Are you
kidding? What a sickening comment And what a hypocrite! Older Americans worked hard for Social Security and Medicare. Medicare is one
health care program (government run) that is really working. Ryan,
you need to go away. Maybe we can get legislation to stop your pension plan and
free medical care? Seems you were able to build your nest egg, and then you
tried to deny others the same privledge. Rumor has it that the Koch
brothers are not happy about all those millions of donations that they funneled
to you. Well with those billions in tax breaks you and your party gave them, Im
sure that few billion will cover their costs.
McConnell is the one who should go. He is one of the swampiest swamp creatures
in DC and is giving the Republicans a real black eye.
@junkgeek "The smart voter will hope for split control between the
House and Senate (I'd prefer a Democratic House and a Republican Senate,
but the reverse works as well). Force them to negotiate"...---I
tend to agree with what you said (and I've said that before).Also best if Congress is not same party as President (for real oversight).Founding fathers wanted diversity (not one-man, or one-party, control of
the government). They made it so you had to work with the minority to get
things done. I think this was so Congress had to work harder to pass things,
and had to put some "Win" in it for the other side (not just their
side).Our politicians are too selfish and "Enemy" minded to
work the way our founding fathers intended. They wanted compromise, and
Statesmanship, not partisan games for the cameras and re-election campaigns.The didn't see politics as a life-long career (like today's
politicians). They saw it as a temporary public-service (not amassing millions
and millions of dollars like the Clinton's and others).They
wanted it to be hard to pass bills. To force compromise and finding something
the other side wants too.I also think it's best for there
The smart voter will hope for split control between the House and Senate
(I'd prefer a Democratic House and a Republican Senate, but the reverse
works as well). Force them to negotiate.
marxist,What do you suggest young tax payers, kids who are just about to
become tax payers do... just keep funding this program knowing it won't be
there when they need it?Should we tell them to put more of their
money into it (increase their SS taxes) with no guarantee it will be there when
they retire?What smart young person would vote for that?Remember they will be voting soon.Do you think struggling kids
with no savings want to give ~12% of their pay to older people with big bank
accounts?The current tax rate for social security is 6.2% for the
employer and 6.2% for the employee, or 12.4% total.It must go up
significantly to guarantee the generation currently entering the workforce and
paying that tax will get some benefit from paying it all their working life.Do you think they will vote to pay more, with the current projection
that it will go bankrupt before they get any benefit from it? How stupid do
you think they are?He's not anti-Social-Security. He's
anti-debt for our youth. But he's alone. I don't blame him for
leaving Congress.He's actually a good guy, if you knew him, and
could get over the partisan rhetoric. He's not your "Enemy". Nor
If we look at the members of Congress bowing out, it is only in response to a
recognition that our culture, values, and mentality do not support honest
evaluation of issues, policy, and laws that are not sustainable; nor generate
desired measurable outcomes.As a country we value rights without
responsibility; the doctrine of victimhood. We like drama, social voyeurism,
and judge based on perception as opposed to cold hard facts that are
uncomfortable and require a patient evaluation. We admire the aura
of celebrity and strive for entitlement over intellect, hard work, and the
ability to objectively root cause problem solve.We have succumbed to
tribalism where segmented groups tell everyone what to do; and seek to
superimpose their will with a zero sum mentality. We don't value emotional
intelligence nor the development of it.So how can we expect Congress
or those we elect to be any different?Those retiring simply
recognize they are not representative of the people. The People don't
support "discipline, sacrifice, and unified, determined effort" to
support our Constitution or government. I am sure some will make the
emotional choice to be offended of my post.
To "marxist" how could Ryan finish off something that is already dead.
SS is paying out more than it brings in. If it was a business we would have
already declared it DOA.TO "scrappy do" SS is doing fine
destroying itself without Ryan.To "Open Minded Mormon" be
careful what you say. There could be enough support for the GOP to maintain
control. Remember, a lot of us commoners see good in some of Trump's
policies and can see the lack of conviction in the Democrats.
Ryan was all about tax cuts for the wealthy and kicking the poor while they are
down."Forced charity is death" Um, no, denying the poor food and
medical services is death.
i agree with you largely that Ryan was probably more part of the solution than
part of the problem in DC. However, he failed to stand up to Trump and now like
so many others is quitting instead of living in the chaos that the Republicans
created by their unusual marriage to Trump. good riddance to all those who have
supported Trump in the slightest.
It hurts everybody. He was one of the last people in Washington who knows the
"Magic Sauce" required to get things done. Identify the things you
already know the other side can't possibly accept.. and don't insist
on those things. Instead work on things not in that small list.He's frustrated enough to give up. I wouldn't want to be part of a
group that refuses to cooperate and get things done. It's futile.He exposed the "Magic Sauce" after his amazing success leading to the
first Federal Budget in 6 years when Obama was President.Google
"Government shutdown FAQs | Paul Ryan"...He knows how to do
it. But nobody will cooperate (R's or D's). So it's a waste of
time. I don't blame him for leaving.Note: Congress approval
rating is 14% today according to Gallup.And just giving Democrats a
majority won't change that. It was at 14% when Obama was President and had
his short Democrat Super-Majority in the HOR and Senate.Nothing
improves when you change the majority party. They still can't do anything.
Because they see the other side as the "Enemy". They can't
cooperate with the Enemy. They insist on throwing in things they know their
Enemy can't possibly accept
When the kitchen gets too hot, you get out of the kitchen. Sorry, Paul Ryan,
but I don't believe a word of your "family" excuse to give up your
Free-day the 13th said: "Paul Ryan has principles we should all
respect and strove for a policy course we should all appreciate. Right down to
his refusal to make a career out of government power..."Really?!
Most people would consider 20 years at one employer a career. Add in the fact
that he's not "retiring" until January as Speaker so that he can
retire with the higher Speaker's pension, which is more than many middle
class families make.Let's also mention his tax cut bill that he
shepherded through the House- it will grow the deficit into the trillion dollar
range and ultimately kill small businesses and the middle class. I really
can't respect those "principles."
@ marxsistShow a comparison of numbers please. How many seniors died sick
and poor each year before & after medicaid & medicare and how many kids
let their parents die without caring before & after? Put the
difference (if there is one) up against the 63,000 (see NIH.gov) people that
died in 2016 of opioid addiction driven largely by ACA entitlement spending that
flooded the country with drugs paid mostly with national credit card that will
exact sweat and servitude for generations. Ryan got how many bills
passed to rescind ACA? My guess: more than the $ bills that freely passed from
any Marxist's hand to her/his parents or to any other of our sisters &
brothers in need. Forced "charity" leads to death. Personal,
freely-given careing & service lead to life and joy.
Paul Ryan Saves Medicare and Social Security! .... he's resigning!
@free-day the 13th: "...constitutional policy wonks like Ryan..."I know that was the spin, but it never matched the man.Ryan
typically demurred when touted as a policy wunderkind, perhaps knowing enough
about policy to recognize that few within the 2018-era GOP would know the
difference. But a contest of policy ideas between Ryan and a fire hydrant
would be too close to call.Sure, Ryan had his hands full corralling
the lunatic fringe that comprised the GOP House majority. But there was good
reason he was sitting at the top of such overheated rabble. From that perch he
could and did churn and chum nonsense policies in the form of House bills that
everyone knew never had a chance of passage in the GOP-controlled Senate. His singular policy accomplishment -- such as it is -- was the
budget-busting GOP 'tax bill'. It was so sloppily drafted that it
will require at least 2-3 clean-up bills to simply accomplish its policy
objective of placating large GOP donors. Ryan bailing on cleaning up that mess
pales in comparison to his rank abdication of the House oversight of the Trump
administration. For that he will earn an answer on a Trivial Pursuit card in 20
"but sadly he [Ryan] may have snuffed out any remaining hope for those who
are passionate about public policy."What about Bernie Sanders?
He's passionate about public policy. Have you heard of him? Right winger
@Free day "Restore our freedom to choose to care for our neighbors in
need."Yes, bring back the days when most seniors died sick and
Impartial7 NAILED IT. I echo that statement. Passing a tax cut bill that will
cripple the middle class once the clock strikes 2026. Perhaps Congress will keep
kicking the can down the road until our nation is owned by foreign powers. Paul
Ryan is a stooge for Big Money like they all are; don’t be surprised when
he run for President in 2020. His kids will be all grown up by then...
I didn't know Republicans were so fond of the deficit until this year.I guess you have to keep your campaign donors happy. Billionaire taxcuts
were a stupid idea and if that is Paul Ryan's "legacy" he's
better off in a different job. Good riddance.
I'm glad he's gone. He would go after my social security in a
heartbeat - all the while taking his 70k congressional pension for the rest of
his life.Paul Ryan is out of touch with reality and would rather
give tax cuts to billionaires than admit that his policies hurt the middle
Paul Ryan has had a nearly impossible job to do. While I don't agree with
him on all things, he still has managed to stay above the mire that Washington
politics is right now. It will be interesting to see who next will stop
Disgusting that even here in Utah, where self-reliance is still given occasional
lip service, there are so many opinion-ators that clamor for entitlement. When a
majority vote to take as much as they can of future tax proceeds, the shackles
tighten--biting into our flesh & emboldening the wipmasters to tax more,
spend more.Paul Ryan has principles we should all respect and strove
for a policy course we should all appreciate. Right down to his refusal to make
a career out of government power, he embodies character seen in our founding
fathers. I thank him and wish he and his family well. We will miss him and bleed
the more for his absence. Please Utah delegation, enact the 13th
amendment & end involuntary servitude of tax payers. Restore our freedom to
choose to care for our neighbors in need. Charity can never be forced. Only in
constitutional policy wonks like Ryan does a future of accountability, personal
responsibility, & hope exist.
"He detested the games of the swamp..."Maybe, but he played
them all the same, didn't he? That's little different than the
cheating husband who tells his wife, "Yeah, I slept with her, but it
didn't mean anything."
Ryan will leave the House as a failure because he lacked the backbone to stand
up and push back!McConnell in the Senate is of the same ilk and
deserves the same as Ryan!Very shortly they will all want to sing a
different tune, but it will be too late. History repeats itself.
This time its the Pubs turn.
Speaker Ryan single handedly blew the Federal budget up, albeit with the
assistance of Senator Hatch's tax bill for billionaires. And the man
styles himself a "thinking Conservative", an oxymoron in trumpAmerica
these days.All to please the current president, and his paymasters @
Koch Enterprises.We are supposed to be sad about this? This
would-be "serious" politician was never more than a right wing hack.
And one who faced serious challenges to his retention of his very seat in
Congress, much less the pomp, prestige and position he has held as Speaker of
the House.Good riddance, except that his GOP replacement (and I hope
there is not one soon) would be even worse.
Ryan pushed through the most recent budget and many other record setting
budgets. All of which were not completely funded...and pushed our
exhorbitant/insane/pathetic deficit higher. Will he be replaced by someone that
likely will do the opposite? No. Likely not. But we’re not losing a
Libertarian at the helm. The only people worth keeping in Congress are those
like Senator Rand Paul...those that vote against increased govt growth and
spending each and every time. A govt that spends more grows more. It’s all
so very unnecessary. Ryan could have used his influence to stem the tide.
Instead he rode the wave.
I guess he never had a chance to gut social security... good riddance
Ryan's passion was and is to finish off social security. I hope to never
hear of Ryan again.
Impartial7:A more *impartial* comment would acknowledge that too
many politicians-on both sides of the aisle-vote to achieve political
expediency, and constantly acquiesce to the will of big-dollar donors.A more *impartial* comment would acknowledge that very few politicians possess
the desire, will and the stamina to vote to shape a government that lives within
its means--because they'd rather pander to a self-serving and short-sighted
electorate that seeks more benefits from government than it's willing to
pay for.A more *impartial* comment would acknowledge our deficit and
national debt are the product of the collective actions of our
citizenry--through our elected "servants."The resolution for
our country's ills cannot result from blaming "the other side."The resolution is only in what Matheson states: "...elect[ing]
individuals who will put principle and policy first...." Only as we
citizens fervently resolve to answer John F. Kennedy's call to "Ask not
what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country,"
will we change our course.Only discipline, sacrifice, and unified,
determined effort will undo the mistakes of our and previous generations.
Boo-hooCrocodile tears --- Republicans have NOBODY else to
blame for this.at least for now -- The GOP owns the House, The GOP own the Senate, and because not a single one of them had
the courage or a spine to stand up and grow up, TRUMP now owns them...Paul Ryan just stepped back and let the piano fall.November and the Blue
wave can't get here quick enough!He's 48, he's
looking at the POST-apocolyptic Trump era.
" If we don’t elect individuals who will put principle and policy
first, we will never build an agenda for a better America that will
last."Hmmm. All Matheson did when he ran the Sutherland
institute was rail against all things Obama, no matter if some were for the
greater good of our country. Now, that it's apparent that the backlash
against Trump will cost the GOP the House, he wants to all get along?For
the record, Ryan and his GOP will be remembered for giving tax cuts to the
wealthy, gutting services for the poor, harming the middle class and running up
a trillion dollar debt. Oh, and getting rich from the Koch brothers.