The path to immigration reform is clear. The real question is, who will lead?

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  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    May 25, 2018 12:25 a.m.

    Trump is clearly showing the way forward on immigration, while the swamp is trying to replace US citizens.

  • countryvoice3 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2018 8:12 a.m.

    Don't know that I've ever agreed with Fitness Freak, but I do this time.

    The way forward is easy to see, it's just hard to do...further evidence that much of our politics is really driven by the Oligarchs or at least would be Oligarchs.

  • Fabled Soul Provo, UT
    April 7, 2018 8:09 a.m.

    "Nevertheless, the Church takes seriously its responsibility to hold its members accountable for their conduct with respect of the laws of God and man.” If only this were true, illegal immigration would end.

  • Gil Bates Mayfield, UT
    April 7, 2018 6:59 a.m.

    I am reading about the regulatory government these days. Did you know that the IRS unilaterally created an amnesty program back in 1999? They decided to give ITIN cards to people who are here illegally. (The ineligibility to get a Social Security card is one of the requirements.

    Ostensibly, this was a way to collect taxes, but most of the ITIN holders don't report enough income to pay taxes. But they DO qualify for child tax credits. So, we pay $1K per child to them.

    Congress didn't debate the ITIN program. They didn't create a law about it. The IRS just did it. And when the IG of Treasury reported billions in fraud as a result, Congress chose NOT to demand a halt to the program.

    The private sector responded by accepting the ITIN and Matricula cards for car loans and home loans, thus helping to entrench illegal aliens.

    Like The Educator is always telling us here, get educated. Somehow I don't think he's going to like my lesson.

    This is just one sliver of the deeply rooted political problem we call "immigration reform."

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2018 12:54 a.m.

    Illegal immigration is stolen U.S. residency. Allowing children of illegals to stay (DACA) is in essence the same as allowing the child of a bank robber to keep the heist. It is wrong .

    Send DACAs home, with the parents that brought them here. Thou shalt not cover. Thou shalt not steal. Build up your own countries.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 6, 2018 6:56 p.m.

    Border security first before any action on amnesty or path to citizenship for DACA folks.
    Anyone here illegally other than DACA is welcome to return home and apply for legal entry, but not to remain here another minute.

    We have immigration laws and obey and enforce them, or we are a lawless nation where no one who is a citizen should be expected to be any more law abiding than people breaking our immigration laws.

    Cracking down on those employing illegal immigrants is a very high priority, regardless of what the Chamber of Commerce might want.

    Legal immigrants are welcome, illegal are not. It is simple as that.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    April 6, 2018 4:01 p.m.

    Trump's DACA deal requires me to pony up for his wall--remember, the wall he said Mexico would pay for?

    He's the worst bait-and-switch operator ever known.

  • iceman96 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2018 3:33 p.m.

    I wish it was that simple. The wall, e-verify, interior enforcement and more judges were part of the 1986 amnesty, but never enforced. A visa entry/exit system was part of the 1996 immigration reform, but never enforced. We are going nowhere until we enforce laws passed but never enforced,

    The Democrats have not won the white vote since 1964, they rely on immigration votes and amnesties(7) to build there voter base, until they change, we are going to see this play over again and again.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 6, 2018 3:26 p.m.

    @Impartial7
    The business angle is a big part of the problem. GWB was as guilty as Obama.

    Key enforcement efforts, like No Match Letters and worksite raids are important, as are prosecuting business owners and managers.

    They are systematically protected from prosecution because E-Verify is not mandatory and the bar of "knowingly hiring persons illegally present" is too high to prove in court.

    It is shameful that The Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street Journal support amnesty for illegals.

    The unholy trinity when it comes to amnesty voices: Labor unions, businesses and advocacy groups. These three exert intense pressure on our elected officials.

    I would gladly agree to arresting business owners...AND the workers themselves.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    April 6, 2018 1:51 p.m.

    @SayNotoBO;
    "We watched 3,000 people died on national television in 2001, and even THAT didn't bring us the needed resolve.
    No, this is not relatively simple."

    I agree with a lot of what you say. But, until true conservatives place the blame where it belongs, and call out the enablers, even if it hurts to do so, nothing will change. Why are most of these people here illegally? For jobs. They are not coming here, collecting welfare and sending that money back to Mexico. They are here working for employers that know they are illegal. Utah is the reddest of the red states. We could make E-Verify mandatory in a minute. We could mandate stiff penalties for employers, both financial and criminal, if we wanted-also in a minute. But we don't. Why? Because Utah business owners and GOP supporters want cheap labor. Yes, they come here for work, but they also have kids that drain our resources. States with mandatory E-Verify have seen illegals move away. Arizona is a perfect example. Utah is the unfortunate beneficiary of the illegals moving from AZ to here. Why Utah? Because they know Utah doesn't enforce E-Verify. Until Utah conservatives put their money where their mouths are, we're sunk.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    April 6, 2018 1:45 p.m.

    Unethical business persons understand that the looooonger they can keep both political parties haggling about the solution to immigration (legal and otherwise), the longer they can keep their pool of cheap labor coming and coming,and coming.......

    And we ALL know that politicians live for the donations that they receive from these unethical business persons.

    Imagine the angst from the business community if they lose their unlimited supply of cheap labor.

    They MIGHT actually have to hire Americans, or (gasp)actually do the work themselves!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 6, 2018 1:09 p.m.

    The editor assumes logic and politics coexist. Not so.

    There are many "sides" to this issue and the people don't get much of a say. Poll results should always be suspect.

    Senator Alan Simpson said the immigration issue brought about "the goofiest ideological bedfellow activity I've ever seen."

    William H. Seward was Lincoln's Secretary of State. In 1858, as a US Senator, Seward gave a speech we call The Irrepressible Conflict. He explained the many facets of the slavery problem; economic, religious, partisan, ethical, regional, state vs. federal authority...

    We are there again. Washington has studied the illegal alien problem a number of times. In 1981, 1994, 1997 and after 9/11. The recommendations were sickening in their similarity

    We watched 3,000 people died on national television in 2001, and even THAT didn't bring us the needed resolve.

    No, this is not relatively simple.

    Like 1860, this will not end well.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    April 6, 2018 1:09 p.m.

    A lot of what Matheson says would be achievable if Trump realized he is the president of 330 million people, not a base of rabid supporters who groove off their right-wing media echo chamber.

    When Trump says,"women are raped at levels nobody has ever seen before on journey to US" that virulent rhetoric only fuels divisiveness and fear. It is not responsible leadership.

    Appealing to the base instincts of xenophobes is a sure sign Trump is too lazy to make a sincere effort to solve this problem.

  • Dart Thrower Ogden, UT
    April 6, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    Easy, easy answer to all this, that for some reason is always avoided. If you hire an illegal alien or rent them an apartment, you get one year in person, per person and a $50,000 fine per person. Few would risk this level of punishment in order to get cheap labor.

    If there is not the lure of a job or housing in the US, then there is no illegal immigration. On the other hand, crops are rotting in the fields in California, so there is a need to provide a legal route for seasonal workers to come into the country and provide manual labor. Make entry automated, secure and easy. Get people in, send them back out when the job is done. Seems like a workable solution.

  • jimbo10 Logan, UT
    April 6, 2018 12:11 p.m.

    No one wants to give anything up to the other side.