Intermountain leaders meet to discuss changes; uncertainty remains over affected jobs

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  • oldman1953 Spanish Fork, UT
    March 24, 2018 3:51 p.m.

    It took years for Intermountain Healthcare to become one of the best in the country. And in one quick step, they just lowered their standards. And in a few years they will be back to where they were 10 years ago, a place where you don't want to go for care or treatment. Dr. Mark Harrison doesn't care about IHC or the employees. He is only concerned about his bank account. There is a rumor floating around that he will get a $9,000,000.00 bonus if he can make or save IHC money, (this is only a rumor.)So, why not cut him from IHC and save the money (rumor or not.) It takes many people in various positions to provide care and support to those who need hospital care. Currently Dr. Harrison doesn't care about the support positions. And, R1 the company who all those employees were sold off to doesn't care about those employees. They are demanding that almost all of those employees relocate to West Valley. These are people from St. George to Logan. This move for Intermountain Healthcare was a very bad move, second only to hiring Dr. Harrison.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    March 24, 2018 11:13 a.m.

    Years of reckless spending have not quite caught up to our federal gov't. But, it has caught up to IHC. They will have to reconsider their priorities and tighten their spending belt. They should be able to do this and till provid quality health care.

  • Edmunds Tucker St George, UT
    March 24, 2018 8:38 a.m.

    ''outsourcing of 2,300 billing worker jobs'' Hmm. Is this twice the number of physicians? Government insurance plans - Medicaid, Obamacare, Medicare - drain resources. One physician said he dealt with 185 different insurance plans as an ophthamologist. There are about 1500 insurance companies licensed by Utah, but only 2 medical schools. You don't hear law firms outsourcing their billing by the thousands. How about opening fifty more medical schools in Utah, with thousands of medical student seats, within a generation these problems (billing, lean and mean) would disappear, physicians would have fewer patients per physician, and maybe we could get rid of insurance plans altogether. [Not going to happen.]

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    March 23, 2018 12:11 p.m.

    The other issue is that ObamaCare is fascism (private businesses & activities controlled by the state). Remember, the acronym NAZI was an abbreviation for the National Socialist Party in Germany. (Notice the word Socialism there).

    A friend of mine said, "We don't have socialism, because I don't have (free) healthcare (& she has no health insurance, but, ironically cares for sick elderly patients, like myself).

    The US has the worst of both private & public healthcare (she makes too little to pay health insurance premiums, but still can't get public healthcare). It also has the highest health care cost of any nation in the world.

    And what happened to individual liberty? Where in the constitution does it allow the government to control our entire health-care system , including who pays what, & mandates unaffordable payments of many?

    Amendments 9 & 10, the last 2 articles in the Bill of Rights, should include economic freedom, including leaving every citizen freedom to handle their own health care, and not have it mandated to them by the government.

  • Lostintranslation St George, UT
    March 23, 2018 12:08 p.m.

    WOW!!! Challenging???? You obviously are not one that is being affected by all of this!!! NONE of the people making these decisions are being affected and NONE of these people really care about the employees that are being affected...COME ON INTERMOUNTAIN isn't it time to get real and be honest???? Why would I expect that from this leadership!! I am one that is being affected and very happily saying not for long!! I will be finding a new DR outside of Intermountain, and will not be doing any business with them unless I absolutely have to!! Hurry up Morningstar get a hospital in St George.

  • ToddWorley Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2018 10:31 a.m.

    Intermountain has announced that it will "incorporate corporate buzz phrase here" (focus on value/reorient towards new priorities/engage in a formal evaluative process/become more patient-centric). These changes are expect to go into effect "insert ambiguous phrase here" (as soon as practicable/when leadership has fully vetted the proposals with key stakeholders/relatively soon). CEO Marc Harrison, when asked for comment, said, "insert dumb analogy here" (the best hunting dogs are those with good sniffers/we can't sit back and wait for the future to define us/we want to take the bull by the horns/we want to respond in an interactive and dynamic way with the community needs).

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2018 10:22 a.m.

    IHC has been a nationally recognized leader in providing health care. President Obama praised them for cost efficiency and other health care organizations send their employees here for training. They should be congratulated for seeking innovative ways to streamline and lower the cost or medical care. Technological unemployment has been a social issue for centuries and will continue. We cannot complain about the high cost of medical care and also object to cost cutting measures.

  • Lester L. Wester Henderson, NV
    March 23, 2018 10:21 a.m.

    Winning! This is the future and it doesn’t look good. All of this “billing” is for insurance companies that we don’t need in the first place. They are the ones that continue to profit regardless of who loses their job. Shameful.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    March 23, 2018 10:06 a.m.

    Last summer, IHC charged IMO, exhorbitant amounts for a 3-day stay for a non-life threatening procedure.

    My insurance covered the bulk of it. But the unfairness of the American medical system still is extremely evident to me. There is little standard pricing in what hospitals charge for the same procedure, whether we're talking between hospitals or between patients of the same Hospital.

    If hamburgers were sold this way, some would cost $5, and some would cost $500.

    If IHC controls 60% of the medical market in Utah, that's a monopoly! And so for both customers and employees, they wield too much power.

    Perhaps the major driver in the rise of healthcare costs is that the US has been having babies at a sub replacement rate since 1970. Older people account for proportionately much, much more of healthcare costs for then than do those who are younger. What was once a population pyramid has become more of an inverted or upside down pyramid.

    Boomers averaged 170 babies born for every 200 of them. That's a recipe for economic disaster. And there are no redo's (you can't go back to last week, last year, or decades ago and have the babies now you might have had then).

  • pmfarmington Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2018 9:57 a.m.

    My experience with Intermountain Healthcare over the years has gone from fantastic (25 years ago) to OK (last 10 years) to "I wish I had the option to choose a different health plan at work." Bills with errors—repeatedly, being charged for preventive services that should have been free but, for any small loophole they can find, are not. The list goes on. I realize it's not entirely their fault; government puts constraints on them they didn't have 25 years ago, but there have to be better solutions than the ones we're seeing from IHC.

  • Gregory American Fork, UT
    March 23, 2018 9:37 a.m.

    It saddens me that IHC is out-sourcing jobs. The more a business is removed from their customers, the more likely it will not know the needs and cares of it's customers. Is IHC's leadership too removed from the customer?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2018 9:27 a.m.

    Yes, the fear of losing one's job. I'm retired now, but I have been there over and over again. This fear gets particularly acute when one reaches 40 years of age. There is no stability for hired labor in capitalism. This means a lifetime of fear for most. IHC is but an example.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    March 23, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    I apologize for the egregious type errors in previous posts

    I have lived to see the day when I fully agree with Mr Dabakis. That is unexpected. I applaud him for speaking out. I’m not aware of any other politicians who have done so.

    This is no small issue. Intermountain employs (or did) 7% of the jobs in this state, and nearly 1% of the population. I heard that above 60% of medical services rendered in this state are within the walls of Intermountain Healthcare facilities. Perhaps it’s more.

    Also they are granted exemption from taxes, which makes this everyone’s business.

    Someone needs to hold the board of trustees accountable for determining that we all bear the burden of their decisions as patients, as family of those employed and as a community.

  • rfrmac South Jordan, UT
    March 23, 2018 8:57 a.m.

    This is only the beginning.

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    March 23, 2018 8:19 a.m.

    Medicare and medicaid reimbursement cuts, Obama care and having to provide service to anyone regardless of ability to pay have lead to Healthcare provides, such as IHC to reduce cost.

  • FanOf"ChuckARama" Vernal, UT
    March 23, 2018 7:58 a.m.

    Yes they did donate 15 million to the U according to the article on here on February 16 2018.

  • "Hakuna Matata" Vernal, UT
    March 23, 2018 7:54 a.m.

    I may be wrong but didn't they just donated a few million, a little bit ago? I thought I read something about that on here a few weeks ago.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 23, 2018 7:51 a.m.

    "Intermountain CEO Marc Harrison last week said there would be further job losses in the organization constituting "an extremely small percentage of our overall work force."

    Harrison was hired to eliminate jobs. That's what he does. This is a horrible way to treat long term employees. This, after rich guys like Harrison and his corporation just received huge tax breaks.Everyone, including most doctors at IHC are concerned. What a way to destroy a once decent local company.

  • Gretschman Draper, UT
    March 23, 2018 7:34 a.m.

    “Government healthcare for everyone”- tabuno

    No thanks. The government does not do much right. Everything is more expensive when the government takes over. But the libs keep pushing for it, and may get it. When they do, I will laugh as they are put into the queue and everyone comes to the realization that we are not Norway or Japan or Sweden.

  • SLW Riverton, UT
    March 23, 2018 7:05 a.m.

    With a CEO who makes $1.6 million per year and he outsources over 2,000 employees to a company that will not provide them pension benefits - how fair is this?

  • dski HERRIMAN, UT
    March 23, 2018 6:57 a.m.

    Freedom is not free. America offers equal opportunities not equal conditions. We are all free and all had opportunities to choose our education and our careers as well as who we want to work for. Businesses make adjustments all the time. In this case, IHC has to make an adjustment in its business strategies and practices to stay competitive. Competition brings out the best in everything and everyone. It is best to make adjustments before a storm than trying to patch holes during the destructive winds and hailstones of the storm.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    March 23, 2018 6:53 a.m.

    There is one resolution which will stop this unhinged and disorganized restructuring

    Harrison and Allen must go.

    Perhaps Mr Anderson should admit his mistaken judgementc and the rest of the posed.

    There is only so many times a leader can repeat himself in an effort to cover for his failures, and produce no tangible improvement.

    Trust has been lost, and it is likely impossible to regain it.

  • JY Slc, UT
    March 23, 2018 6:50 a.m.

    @tabuno -

    Because government business is run so efficiently?

    See cost skyrocket even more if government is allowed more control.

  • strom thurmond taylorsville, UT
    March 23, 2018 6:47 a.m.

    I’ve heard many reports of people being made to reapply for their jobs.aby people have lost or at loosing their jobs, while others have faced day to day uncertainty for months.

    I’ve overheard people in restaurants, grocery stores and on public transit talk about it.

    It can not be simultaneously true and untrue. Someone has to be wrong.

    Being from Cleveland Clinic, Mr Harrison seems to have had no idea about how deeply woven into the community this organization he’s decimating is.

    This is a pr nightmare and in a for-profit company this type of damage would not be tolerated.

  • suzcnoor Logan, UT
    March 23, 2018 6:26 a.m.

    You all are a present day mess. I had 4, yes 4 seperate phone calls all for the same thing , regarding pre registration for a radiology appt. Your right hand never seemed to know what the left hand was doing. Computers froze, some random mention of me living in Idaho...what? I’m in Logan. Couldn’t find my insurance. Exasperated, caller just told me to come in early with insurance card. Only to get another call the next day. Tests were ordered by and to be sent to my Dr. At U of U in Slc. Each follow up visit the tests in the last 2 years my test results were never there. We’ve had to literally sit in exam room and make the call to IHC again asking to send results immediately because they failed to follow the request. I ask every desk person I see now ...” you will send d these to my dr. , right.” It’s little, or maybe it’s really not in the scheme of things but the inadequacies begins to add up.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2018 11:24 p.m.

    They went on an irresponsible spending binge that caught up to them. They have to be more responsible financially in how they run their corporation.

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    March 22, 2018 10:43 p.m.

    In America's cutthroat private sector health industry with so much competition and the need to cut corners, it seems like health care in the United States isn't so much about providing quality health care to patients but how to survive in a market economy by cutting costs. Too bad America doesn't allow the government to provide health care in the interest of the taxpayers instead.