Utah woman claims her house burned because of agency politics

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  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    March 17, 2018 1:23 a.m.

    bureaucracy in it's purest form.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    March 16, 2018 1:52 p.m.

    Do you think people notice there isn't a fire plug on the street when they move to a pastoral, rural area?

    Of course, there are well-equipped fire departments in the state. Are they obligated to respond to YOUR fire? Why do you think so?

    The political debate rages on when some school districts have more money to spend on students...and they spend it. Politicians tell us there must be something done.

    So, we want parity of fire protection. Time for the legislature to create a state-wide firefighters' union and set the rules for all of us.

    Sorry for your loss, ma'am. Tell me your GoFundMe page and I'll send you $10. But, if you live on a hill...or a flood plain...or downwind from a landfill...or in the path of a runway...or in a rural area, expect the odds of the downside.

  • The Real Maverick Spanish Fork, UT
    March 16, 2018 1:17 p.m.

    This is what happens in the "free market."

    Wouldn't it just be easier if we had one police/fire department?

    Today, you have HOA messes, rivalries between departments, etc.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    March 16, 2018 12:46 p.m.

    When you shout "Donuts" in a crowded (whatever) police from multiple jurisdictions will show up. All the rules go out the window.

    Okay, that was tongue in cheek, but I think that most firefighters like donuts just as much as the next guy.

    A few years ago in the south (I believe it was Missouri) a town went bankrupt and dissolved their fire department. The fire department from a neighboring jurisdiction took over the responsibility, but with a proviso: You had to pay a monthly fee (a replacement for the taxes they could not legally levy) to that fire department. Several people did not pay and the fire department stood by and watched the houses burn. Next the home owners found out that because they did not have a fire department, their home owners insurance was null and void.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 16, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    A similar thing happened a few years ago in a well publicized case in the South. I used that case in a law class that I taught. While there are legitimate arguments on both sides, this Utah case seems more clear cut than the other case. There is, in my view, a duty was abrogated here and there should be liability. There is duty of responders to protect the public interest and put aside petty jurisdictional issues. This woman deserves justice.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    March 16, 2018 8:41 a.m.

    Watching it burn used to be a common thing. Your fire insurance included a number on the side of your house. Your insurance paid for specific people to fight your fire. Other folks just as capable sat around and watched the fire.

    Your real protection is insurance against loss. I'm glad your family got out safe.

  • jdooggyy Provo, UT
    March 16, 2018 5:31 a.m.

    Governmental immunity in this state is a joke. It’s is used as a sword rather than a shield, by municipality entities and employees who choose to protect overtly negligent conduct rather then its true purpose.

    March 15, 2018 9:47 p.m.

    Wow, government immunity shouldn't cover up for intentional or unintentional idiocy. From the article it certainly seems she has proof of malfeasance by firefighting management.

    Isn't there a firefighter's sworn oath to the serve the community unselfishly? Perhaps obeying your commander comes before serving the public?

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    March 15, 2018 9:18 p.m.

    Somebody needs to go to Jail.