Did the City delay development for 3 decades? It had it's chance. If the
City can't decide, time to let the state see what it can do. Des News
wrote an editorial a few years back to endorse the inland port. Des News should
congratulate the Governor for getting it done. After all was said and done,
more was said than done.
This single decision by our Governor will cost the Republicans their hegemony in
Utah for decades to come. It amazes me that a seasoned politician like Gary
Herbert doesn't get that.
''the bill still leaves the city with the obligation to provide
municipal services to the area, such as public safety and street maintenance,
without a revenue source to pay for these additional services." Hmm. Then
Salt Lake City should De-annex the area so it won't have to provide
safety, streets, and additional services. That problem is easy to solve. The
area then becomes just another suburb like Sandy, South Jordan, North Salt Lake,
Bountiful, Park City.
Inland port. Think geneva steel sized eye-sore right next to the great salt
lake. Created and managed by government instead of private interest. It’s
going to be as mismanged as UTA and be an enormous waste of taxpayer dollars.
I would suggest even an inland trade hub might be selling the value of the land
short. Being near an international airport, its greatest value is tourism. (Just
my thought; Call me a fool, if you want.) That said, I don't understand the
need for takeover. I see a Feb. 6 news article in which state leaders say they
weren't interested in a hostile takeover. A month later and what have they
done? Well, taken it over and certainly in hostile fashion. And, what of how
back then the talk was of it to be for 3,000 to 5,000 acres. And, when all is
said and done, it is 22,000 acres?
The residents of SLC love to control others. They injected themselves into
Legacy Parkway. They have very strong opinions about rural land most of them
will never see.If for no other reason than giving the urban
know-it-alls a taste of being on the other side, this is probably a good idea.
"gildas" First, I don't believe you or I have all the facts to make
intelligent decisions, but we do have historical FACTS to guide us. Here are
several historical facts to consider: 1) Salt Lake City has a history of
meddling in, and trying to control affairs not within their jurisdiction (the
Legacy Highway is one example of this). 2) Salt Lake City likes to control
every aspect of business even within their borders (example: they approached the
LDS church about buying the roadway now known as the plaza, because they were
cash strapped, then attempted to dictate to the church how this plaza would be
used - even to allow anti LDS protestors to use it). 3) Salt Lake City has
acquired as many water "rights" as possible, then dictates how our
canyons can be used. I could go on, but in this case, it is the state who is
putting up the money for this development, in an area that should never have
been annexed in the first place.This project will benefit all of us.
Salt Lake City will benefit the most, yet they aren't happy unless they
have complete control (at our expense). I think the state is doing the right
Of course he will, they're all free market capitalists and promoters of
small government and local control aren't they...
Interesting that this issue was only raised, as far as the readership is
concerned, about two weeks ago, and now it's happening.I will
say now, what I typed before: It's an idea we needed to discuss. As one
poster stated on this thread: what is this inland port anyway? I
am conservative, constitutionalist, not partisan, but I cannot avoid the
conclusion that this is high-handeded arrogance. As always the people are not
part of the conversation (and I'm not envisaging that part as being two
minutes at the end of a long, frustrating meeting, when "the people" get
to make a comment or two as long as they are very short).We seem
never to be included in anything after an election; there is hubris and a
reminder that "most men [and women] as soon as they get a little authority
as they suppose immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion".This should be a time of discussion not a rude assertion of dictatorial
power. I hope the political status quo will be constitutionally
overturned, next elections, replaced by independent candidates who respect the
voters. Seems there's a need, btw, to drain the swamp,
literally and spiritually.
@stevo123 The land west of the airport is higher in elevation than west
SLC neighborhoods (which is why the Jordan River naturally flows through west
Salt Lake and had to be channelized past the airport in order to prevent
flooding in Rose Park). Most of the northwest quadrant was dry even during the
1980's @Makid Less than a decade ago, the same developer
who built Lake Park in West Valley (a project that resulted in increased water
quality and wildlife habitat) proposed a environmentally sensitive residential
community of roughly 30,000 people, Environmentalists opposed it for largely
spurious reasons (pets will chase the birds, etc.) and the negative PR adverse
developer traded their land with Kennecott and moved their project to the
southwest portion of the valley. Kennecott offered portions of their newly
acquired land to the state for a prison. The state took it because it was
politically cheap (but financially expensive), forcing the city to do what it
had committed to do since the 1980's - provide services@Nuschler121 Environmental extremism is the enemy of environmentalism.
Zealotry (religious, environmental, etc.) usually makes things worse.
To Counter Intelligence:Please read any book by Edward Abbey.
“The Monkey Wrench Gang” and “Desert Solitaire” are
superb. Here was a man, a volunteer Park Ranger who worked at Arches. He saw
how our pristine land was being turned into a parking lot, He LOVED Utah as I
love this land I have hiked and backpacked into. “Take nothing but
pictures and leave nothing but footprints.”Even Zion’s
stopped car traffic down along the Virgin River. Here are some of Abbey’s
quotes:“May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome,
dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.” “Growth
for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” --“WILDERNESS IS NOT A LUXURY BUT A NECESSITY of the human spirit, and
as vital to our lives as water and good bread. A civilization which destroys
what little remains of the wild, the spare, the original, is cutting itself off
from its origins and betraying the principle of civilization itself.” ― Edward AbbeyThink of the children to come. This is
THEIR LAND TOO!Thank you.
If this land is swamp every time the lake is high, why does anyone want to build
there?And what is an inland port anyway?It seems we are
coming into the middle of a conversation. Does some news paper writer care to
explain this from the ground up?
@ Counter intelligence,All of the plans for the area were designed
either by Salt Lake City or with Salt Lake City as a joint partner.No developer wanted to build there because of the swampy nature and the need
to provide some upfront funding (matched by SLC) to provide infrastructure
(roads, water, sewer, power, etc.).So the land sat and sat and sat.
Every few year, SLC would try to get support for development and nothing. They
then began working with the land owners on an Inland Port idea in conjunction
with World Trade Center Utah. The State got wind of this and figured since they
could stick their noses into SLC's business again.This time
though, they completely took over the project, kicked SLC to the curb while
still demanding that SLC provide services and support for the project.SLC should de-annex the land that isn't built on or under contract and
basically for the State to support the whole thing themselves. The City should
also scale back it's support on infrastructure for the new prison since
they won't get any of that money back either.
This proposal could provide economic benefits to the entire state, even and
especially the rural counties. I applaud the legislature and governor for
being willing to look at the big picture.
I usually agree with the gov. Not on this one. I am against anything that cause
people in mexico or california to move to Utah. Go away!! You won't like it
@ Counter intelligence, In the 1980's that land was a swamp, as the lake
was much higher.
“Pyle also declined to say which specific businesses were
involved”Whoa! Slow down Governor! This land has been here
for 3.4 billion years! Why the hurry?The bottom line always seems
to be about making money for folks already rich while dismissing the majority of
residents!Put LONG term plans into writing. Let’s have public
meetings so that the people have input. Allow land experts, attorneys who work
in land disputes, professors of geology and geography AND business professionals
to go over maps and plans. Let them write up findings and then have MORE public
meetings.Governance has been taken away from citizens and handed
over to large corporations.We need for Utahans to take back our
state. We need long term goals that benefit all citizens! Not quick rich
schemes of outsiders who are only here to make money for a few.Let’s not sell off our land, our common good, our Utah!
SLC annexed the land in the 80's , then proceeded to thwart development,
pressured by environmentalists who pushed an unconstitutional belief that
development could be stopped by withholding services (it can only be stopped by
buying the land)If it weren't for environmental extremists, the last
proposal, an environmentally friendly residential community that saved wetlands,
cleaned up an old trash dump and connected people via transit to the top
employment centers in the state, would have been under constriction by now.The current circumstance is entirely SLC 's own fault
Vote Him Out! Vote Him Out! Vote Him Out!
This does not surprise me. It is the Republican Party Platform mentality that
when elected into any office they believe the people voted them in to do their
own will not the will of the people. Such that when criticized the elected
Republican official shrugs it off as the minority voice believing he has
authority to do his will being approved by the majority to whom are now
subjected to his will. This is the Republican view of a Republican Form of
Government.As for me and my political affiliations I keep promoting
a Constitutional Republic.
If Jackie hates it, it must be good.
This is a pretty blatant attempt for the state to steal money from the capitol
city in order to stick it to people they disagree with politically. It's
about green and politics, and nothing more.