Utah House passes bill allowing restaurants to remove signs that say they aren't bars

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  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    March 7, 2018 1:21 a.m.

    i replied to a different article the other day. In part, i said "trump proposed a law requiring any new law passed, requires removing 2 existing laws" ... This is the perfect situation where that law would be needed...

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    March 6, 2018 8:37 p.m.

    Wait. How will I know which place is a bar and which a restaurant if the signs come down?

    For example, how do I know that a HOSPITAL sign means hospital and not casino? The HOTEL sign could mean something quite different, like auto shop. And what if COSTCO isn't really a Costco but a Turkish bath?

    The world can be very confusing even with signage.

  • Edmunds Tucker St George, UT
    March 6, 2018 11:06 a.m.

    ''1,400 establishments licensed to serve alcohol '' If it isn't broke why fix it? Utah has the lowest rank in the country of DUI fatalities. Do not enable 'adult beverage use' in the commercial food industry. Do not drink and drive. Do not drink beer, wine, spirits, and expect a healthy lifestyle. SOmeone, perhaps the restaurants, do think the notice is not a notice for an award. How about replacing the notice with the Surgeon General's warning on the back of every liquor bottle 'Labeling: Mandatory Labeling Information

    Health Warning Statement
    Any alcoholic beverage containing .5% alcohol or higher is required to have a Health Warning Statement on the label. The Health Warning statement must appear on all wine containers for sale or distribution, must be legible and appear on a contrasting background, and must appear separate and apart from all other label information.
    GOVERNMENT WARNING:
    (1) According to the Surgeon General, women should not drink alcoholic beverages during pregnancy because of the risk of birth defects. (2) Consumption of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car or
    operate machinery, and may cause health problems.''

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 6, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    @furry1993;
    "My husband and I are LDS. We don't need laws, signs, etc., to "make" us follow the practices of our religion, or make those who believe otherwise follow the practices of the LDS religion. We do so out of choice, and others should be able to live as they choose."

    And that's the issue which I have issues with. Many LDS, especially those in the Legislature, loudly announce their righteousness with their religion. My question has been why do we need the strictest liquor laws (mostly enacted by folks that don't drink) and the ridiculous Zion curtain? With Seminary, FHE, Boy Scouts, and all day Sunday church and meetings, there probably aren't any group of kids that spend more time learning religion in America than LDS kids. But we need separate areas and 7 foot walls to keep kids to see a drink being poured? You really think they will suddenly forgo all their religious tenets in a flash if they see a martini being made? If so, something is wrong with the message. I appreciate your attitude. I don't care if you belong to a religion that makes you sacrifice 3 snakes on every second Tuesday. Don't expect others, that believe differently, to abide by your tenets.

  • jeclar2006 Oceanside, CA
    March 6, 2018 9:37 a.m.

    The customs in Utah involving the serving of alcohol in restaurants has always been a mystery to me, and a shining example of how religious beliefs filter into law, despite the claim separation of church and state.

    I would visit friends in Fillmore and they would bring their alcohol with them into a restaurant, get an orange juice or perhaps just ice, and mix in the alcohol. To my decadent Californian eyes, this was bizarre.

    It would seem that this new law is addressing yet another quaint custom.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 6, 2018 8:43 a.m.

    I'm still trying to figure out what the point of the signs were. Glad they are gone. They were rather pointless.

    The odd thing is I go out for drinks with colleges all the time - and I order my regular Diet Coke. If people are confused by that - they are the ones with the problem. And I have yet had one person I went "drinking" with ever make a comment that I wasn't really drinking. It just isn't all that uncommon now days for people to not "drink" when they go out. I rarely am the only one ordering a Coke.

    And frankly other then the event venue itself - there is probably no where funner to go what sports that at a Sports Bar/Resturant. Group environment with Wings and Nachos - how can you go wrong. And a diet coke....

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    March 6, 2018 8:17 a.m.

    @Impartial7 - DRAPER, UT
    March 6, 2018 6:21 a.m.
    We need a sign on the Capitol that states "This is the Legislature, not a church".
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    AND we need to make the legislators remember just that.

    My husband and I are LDS. We don't need laws, signs, etc., to "make" us follow the practices of our religion, or make those who believe otherwise follow the practices of the LDS religion. We do so out of choice, and others should be able to live as they choose.

    Keep in Mind Matthew 22:21: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's, The "restaurant vs bar" law is a covert attempt to render unto Godthe things that are Caesar's. They should be kept separate. I'm glad to see that silly requirement be rescinded.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2018 8:05 a.m.

    The best political local cartoon was a few years ago in the other local paper. Two Elders looking out of the Church Office building at the Capital were asking: "I wonder if any other Church owns it's own Legislature?"

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    March 6, 2018 7:22 a.m.

    Do they still have to leave the sign that says they aren't a strip joint?

  • MaxPower Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 6, 2018 7:19 a.m.

    House Majority Leader Brad Wilson, R-Kaysville, the bill's sponsor, said earlier that the signs weren't making a difference. Bars are still required to post signs saying no one under 21 is allowed.

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    You mean to tell me that most families don't base their decision to eat at their local TGI Friday's isn't based on whether they are licensed as a restaurant or bar?

    Didn't see that one coming.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2018 6:55 a.m.

    That ill conceived GOP deal sure made for some good laughs in this city. Several places got very creative. In good humor, these place made fun of those ridiculous signs.

    At least there was a sense of humor with the latest attempt by the GOP to show their supposed moral values.

    Love how the GOP claims to be the party to stay out of people's business. Then they push their ideas on religion and their supposed morals onto unwilling citizens.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    March 6, 2018 6:21 a.m.

    We need a sign on the Capitol that states "This is the Legislature, not a church".