Letter: ICE and ISIS look too similar

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  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    March 5, 2018 12:24 p.m.

    What a sad title... not sure who thought it was clever. But ISIS and ICE share little in common.

    May not always agree with ICE - but they are operating within the rule of law. And civil rights are protected. Disagree as you may with the law itself, but the job ICE does is within the constraints of that law.

    @HaHaHaHa...... can't agree more. Shocking what some people think conservatism is now days.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 5, 2018 11:07 a.m.

    Illegal is still illegal. That is the bottom line.

  • Crusader Layton, UT
    March 5, 2018 11:04 a.m.

    As a "conservative" that means you belong to the Law and Order Republican Party.

    Is this a joke?

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    March 5, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    Its sadly embarrassing to see some of the persons who get away with proclaiming themselves conservative, these days.

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    March 5, 2018 7:39 a.m.

    kvs

    " ICE is breaking up thousands of families where no member has broken any law except coming here to escape violence, death, or economic oblivion for themselves and their families - an act more of courage than of criminality."

    ICE is not doing anything to "families." It is the illegal alien that has placed their family in the situation that they are in. If they came here together, they can leave together. If they had a birth while here, they can still leave together and the child can come back when they are old enough.

    In philosophy and logic, your argument is a false argument. It is called; "argumentum ad misericordiam" which means your argument is an "appeal to pity."

    My "pity" goes to Americans that are affected by the millions of illegals that come here to steal benefits to which they are not entitled.

  • Copybook Headings Draper, UT
    March 5, 2018 6:04 a.m.

    @kvs - West Jordan, UT

    "ICE is breaking up thousands of families where no member has broken any law except coming here to escape violence, death, or economic oblivion for themselves and their families"

    I believe your statement is false. I would venture to say that in the overwhelming majority of raids conducted by ICE they're going after the 1.9 million non-citizen residents in this country who have committed serious crimes.

    By projecting moral superiority with your statement you're actually helping create stories of real heartbreak like this one:

    "Apolinar Altamirano, an illegal alien from Mexico, murdered Grant Ronnebeck on January 22, 2015 in Mesa, Arizona. Ronnebeck was shot over a pack of cigarettes while he was working his shift at a convenience store. Altamirano was out on bond from a previous conviction while ICE determined whether he should be deported when he killed Ronnebeck."

  • Nunn24 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2018 4:08 a.m.

    Isaiah noted that in our day, good would be called evil, and evil would be called good.

    Nowhere is this more apparent than in the matter of illegal immigration.

    The fact is, illegal immigration is theft of U.S. residency, whether for oneself or one's children. Most often, such theft is accompanied by ongoing criminality such as identity theft, fraud, and perjury.

    Generations of American servicemen did not die so that foreign nationals, covetous -- yes, covetous -- of this nation's fruits, can simply come over and steal them. “Thou shalt not covet.“ “Thou shalt not steal.”

    The Utah Compact is being held up as a moral standard. The fact is, the Compact was developed by persons and entities that stand to gain financially by illegal immigration, but at the expense of the well-being of the nation at large. The subversive Utah Compact subtly condones illegal immigration, and would reward violators. I would like to know how the letter-writer justifies the moral corruption of children, who are taught, trans-generationally, disrespect for the law and for one's neighbor. In fact, such is quite apparent in the video of the plaintiffs' statements.

    There should be more of these raids.

  • kvs West Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2018 9:33 p.m.

    Yes, I believe in law and order, including due process. Where was the search warrant that law and order require? Where was the scale of response appropriate to the situation? I also believe in the value of families. ICE is breaking up thousands of families where no member has broken any law except coming here to escape violence, death, or economic oblivion for themselves and their families - an act more of courage than of criminality. The deportations should be directed to our members of congress for perpetuating our fractured and immoral immigration system. If you are LDS, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Muslim, etc., you have allowed the poison of partisan politics to trump (pun intended) your spiritual commitments. Have you read the Utah Compact (a product of conservative thought)? To me, the ICE roundups don't reconcile with either conservatism or with human decency. Remember that from Senator Calhoun to Governor Wallace conservative principles have been manipulated to promote hatred and bigotry. So I am also conservative in my choice of conservative alliances.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    March 4, 2018 3:08 p.m.

    I could not disagree more with this letter.

    Anyone who read the article knows that the so-called "honorable little family" was unlawfully present in the United States and were being uncooperative with ICE agents who were looking for a violent illegal alien criminal.

    This law suit is part of a nationwide ACLU smear campaign against ICE. What did you think they would allege?

    There is far more to this story than the ACLU is telling. It is a shame that Deserert News even publishes such hype. They only get away with it because ICE is bound by privacy laws not to make comments.

  • ConservativeCommonTater West Valley City, UT
    March 4, 2018 1:36 p.m.

    As a "conservative" that means you belong to the Law and Order Republican Party. Why do you make exceptions for people that enter our country illegally, work illegally and take benefits to which they are not entitled, illegally.

    How many of the 7 billion people on earth do you want to allow to come here illegally? If not all, why discriminate against others?