Why interfaith programming matters at religious schools like BYU

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  • sharrona layton, UT
    Feb. 2, 2018 4:00 p.m.

    RE: NoNamesAccepted “For LDS, we enjoy the great blessing of having living Prophets, Seers, and Revelators to provide counsel and guidance”.E.g….

    “That seer… his name shall be called Joseph and it shall be after the name of his father”. ( Genesis 50:33 JST),JS adds prophecy about himself to his Inspired Version. But NOT found in Greek Septuagint(Apostles Bible) or dead sea scrolls.

    You would think JS would be in Hebrews 11,the hero’s of faith. E.g.. V 21 …. Joseph[not Smith].

    Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness(D&C 132:37)? VS … Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.(Gal 3:6)

    RE: Brigham Young, ”Can you make a Christian of a Jew? I tell you Nay, If a Jew comes into this church ,and the blood honestly professes to be a Saint, a follower of Christ, and if the blood of Judah is in his veins, he will apostatize.(JoD V. 2 p. 142)

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Feb. 2, 2018 11:20 a.m.

    @skeptic: "Mormons may want to ..."

    Any man would be foolish to take advice on what is best for him from someone who hates him and clearly doesn't have his best interest at heart.

    For LDS, we enjoy the great blessing of having living Prophets, Seers, and Revelators to provide counsel and guidance. Why would any man of faith, so blessed as to have Prophets in the land, turn for guidance to those who are so blind as to deny the existence of their divine Creator?

    Why would anyone, honest and intelligent enough to consider actual data, give any credence to those so small minded as to fall into the category of bigotry so very often? Even non-LDS--those who reject much or all of LDS doctrinal beliefs--are frequently impressed by the individual and social benefits brought about through the large numbers of young LDS who serve full time missions. Many a social scientist or researcher would love to replicate the benefits of LDS society, but without the religious beliefs.

    From the highest economic mobility in the nation, to dealing with homelessness, to well functioning families, Mormon culture brings myriad secular benefits visible to all not blinded by bigotry.

  • BrentBot Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 2, 2018 10:41 a.m.

    Mormons believe in the Christianity of the New Testament era. Catholics and Protestants believe in Fourth Century Creedal Christianity. Here are the differences:

    1. Baptism by immersion by the father (who has the authority) of the family
    2. Lay clergy
    3. Baptism by proxy for deceased ancestors
    4. God and Jesus organized the world, rather than creatio ex nihilo.
    5. Belief in a tripartite anthropomorphic Godhead, which the Arians believed.
    6. Belief in theosis or divinization (that faithful Christians can acquire god-like attributes).
    7. Belief in sacred esoteric ordinances which allow faithful Christians to ascend to the highest heaven. Cyril, Bishop of Jerusalem, administered these ordinances until 350 AD.
    8. Belief in Eternal Marriage, as recorded in the Book of the Apostle Philip.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 1, 2018 2:03 p.m.

    Mormons may want to learn the truth of their own religion and the understanding themselves before delving into undertaking other religions. Most boys and girls just out of high school are too young , naive and lacking understanding of themselves and the world to go door to door telling other people what is the unknown and how to live their lives. When they are ask questions or explanations outside of their prepared mission lessons they are lost. Give them time to learn to think for themselves and gain some living experience. Live is a two way street, give them the time and opportunity to grow up a little before their missions. What is the rush.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Feb. 1, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    @Hutterite: "religion is what divides us."

    No. It is bigotry, hatred, and distrust that divide us.

    Those horrible attributes can manifest in the form of racism, political tribalism, geographic regionalism, classism, nationalism, and sometimes as religious conflicts.

    But the reality is that religious persons and groups seem to be getting along quite well these days. I see far more bile from atheists attacking religion than I do among hundreds of different faith traditions towards each other.

    It appears that some sects of Islam are prone to using violence against any who disagree with them at all, including other Muslims. But with that exception, what is divisive about religion these days?

    I read far more bile on these boards from self-professed active LDS who are socio-political liberals, directed toward other active LDS who happen to be politically conservatives, than I read from Evangelicals directed toward LDS.

    And over the past 120 years, atheistic communism has murdered many more innocent people than all those killed in the name of religion for the past 4,00 years.

    Religion isn't a problem.

    Hate is. Including hatred of religion.

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 1, 2018 11:41 a.m.

    Those who think BYU is such a bubble do not understand the diversity the returned missionaries (who number in the thousands) have experienced. BYU is the one place you can't have an intimate conversation in any language while standing in a line because you have no idea who else within ear shot speaks that same language. Six roommates that have gone to 6 different missions can and do share experiences about cultural diversity. I suspect this is more of a perception problem seeking a solution than is being admitted. While we all must live "in the world" we need not all "be of the world." There is a difference. And it isn't divisive, it's a personal choice how to live your life. I don't have to know everything my neighbor believes to allow him the personal freedom to live and/or worship as he wishes. Nor does he need to know everything about my religion, either. That isn't painful, it's actually liberating for both of us.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 1, 2018 9:10 a.m.

    Without interfaith programming it becomes painfully obvious...religion is what divides us.