Listening to the St.of the Union speech with a desperate ear, without reviewing
the substance of the speech or checking the facts, isn't wise. Trump lies
every single day and attacks his "enemies" with vicious conspiracy
theories. He expects loyalty from gov. employees when their loyalty is to the
Constitution and the People of the United States. Referring to the Justice
Department and military generals as "My Justice Dept." and "My
generals" is alarming, but when he made the claim that he can do anything he
wants, people should be alarmed. His speech, which he read slowly and out of
breath, contained many erroneous claims. He often takes credit for other
people's achievements and blames others for his own blunders. When he
called for unity, he only meant that everyone should abandon their morals and
integrity and support everything that he wants, no matter how harmful/dangerous.
Many parts of the world are booming, they are innovators and building green.
Trump thinks coal and oil are the future because he only cares about profit and
not sustainability or ecology. America will be left behind, no longer the
innovators. Tax cuts for the rich failed under Reagan, will fail again.
To "waikiki_dave" are you talking about Obama? You do realize that
Obama enacted a tax cut even larger than what Trump signed. Obama's
environmental policies had their roots in the 20th century. By signing the ACA
Obama made health insurance and health care less affordable. Even those on
government healthcare plans can't afford to use the "free"
insurance. What policy is going to lead to Nuclear war, it was it the Obama
policies that failed to stop North Korea from developing a nuclear weapon and
his policies that failed to stop them from building a missile capable of hitting
the US.What you state still does not explain why the Democrats
showed contempt for Trump? If those are their reasons, then why did they
applaud Obama for doing the very same things?
To Red Shirt Harvard: There is nothing wrong with showing ones contempt for the
minority President, especially if you believe: his tax cuts are in reality only
benefiting the richest of Americans; his environmental positions are a remnant
of the 20th century; his dismanteling of the Affordable Care Act is leaving
millions of Americans without viable health care; his foreign policy in Korea
will likely get us into a nuclear conflict with the unnecessary deaths of
hundreds of thousands of people; on and on and on.
To "Happy Valley Heretic" actually all of the division came from the
Democrats who showed their contempt for Trump.
hardware said: "Sad that most posting on here are out of state plants, but
that will always be in this day and age. President Trump, against all odds,
delivered this country and put us on the track of economic recovery. "What is it with Trump supporters and reality? They constantly post how
commenters are "plants?" They just can't accept, that as a trump
fan they are in the minority. But they believe the most prolific liar to ever
hold the office?Where have you been? America has been on the track
to economic recovery and past it for several years, and at a far better rate
than Trump has had. Also what has Donald delivered? Rhetoric and
division, I'm still waiting to see his tax returns, as he promised he would
do, however, Mueller will be the one to finally "deliver" and show us
how in debt to Russia Trump really is.
Further evidence they are out of touch with the people of Utah!
So proud to be an American. Sad that most posting on here are out of state
plants, but that will always be in this day and age. President Trump, against
all odds, delivered this country and put us on the track of economic recovery.
Sadly the democrats choose not to celebrate because they still can't get
over the loss of power and with America boldly supporting an outsider, their
days may be numbered.
@Jim CheeWrong again. Coal is very beautiful to someone who might
otherwise freeze to death.😁
I'm afraid I heard a lot of thinly disguised alt conservative dog whistle
messages in the speech. There were a few surprises in such things as advocating
for Family Leave, but much of it was nothing more than slightly reworded
versions of the hatefulness he's been spouting.There were a
number of very questionable claims about employment number for Blacks and claims
that he alone has boosted the stock markets. Only time will tell
what happens next. It will be at least a couple of years before we will have
any idea whether or not trump was just blowing more hot air or not. At least he
managed to read all the speech Steve Miller wrote for him without tramping off
into the tweet zone.
@eastcoast"The economy has nothing to do with Trump".Right. And changes in our weather have nothing to do with "global
warming" or "climate change".All I can say is "oh
my, oh my".😁
What Democrats didn't applaud for:- low black unemployment- bonuses for employees- 2.4 million jobs created- American
flag- In God we Trust- National anthem- fully secured
border- merit based immigration - Fighting opioid abuse-
Jerusalem as capital of IsraelRemember when realDonaldTrump stood on the
RNC convention stage and told the GOP he'd show them how to win again?
Tonight, he demonstrated just that. He's setting up the Republican Party
for one of the biggest midterm landslides in history.
@Joe Leaphorn - Phoenix, AZJan. 31, 2018 12:48 p.m.CMO Beaver -
Beaver, UTJan. 31, 2018 11:15 a.m."Apparently the speech
drew a 75% approval number in polls."Where? Was this an on-line
Fox News poll for its listeners?No.......it was actually a CBS poll!
You know the kind......one of those illegitimate main street media polls! Same
kind of poll that had Hilary by 10 percentage points the night of the election?
Fox Polls are usually conducted by Rasmussen, and he is usually pretty accurate
compared to CNN CNBC CBS NBC Reuters AP!
btw - most of the world's economy was humming the past year and stock
markets are up this year in Europe and Asia. We aren't even the fastest
growing GDP. This economy has nothing to do with Trump.
I've lived around Trump's empire for much of the last 20 years.
He's well known around New York for thinking of himself first and last, and
ripping people off. He cares about the working man only until he has to pay his
contractors. One of the most greedy and selfish men around and a shameless snake
oil salesman. He's playing us like a violin with all this talk about jobs
and bringing back mining and manufacturing. Watch how much he's
promoting his own family and businesses while he's in office.And he gets zero credit for an economy that was already getting better year on
year for 8 years (since the last bubble caused by overzealous greed). You forget
what a mess this country was in back in 2008-09. Pathetically awful. For Trump and his minions, this is a momentary delusional retro moment.
@Joe Leaphorn it was a CBS poll not Fox.
Justmythoughts - Provo, UTJan. 31, 2018 12:00 p.m." . . .
A family of 4 who makes $50,000.00 per year will pay $4000.00 less in
taxes."Where are you getting these figures? Republicans say
there will be big savings, but their numbers don't add up. What one hand
giveth the other hand takes away. As far as can be determined from reading the
corporate tax cut, some tax benefit comes in a few areas while other previous
tax savings are removed. This is all theoretical and uses non-realistic examples
to give tax savings explanations to those not involved in tax policy. Also, corporations currently enjoying record profits (part of the trend of the
last five years) will only make more money with the tax cuts and carrying the
stock market even higher. However, 84% of stock investment is held by the
richest 10% of Americans. The vast majority of Americans do not hold stocks, so
an improving stock market benefits only a small number of Americans over-all.Most of the tax savings will go to stock buy-backs, investor dividends,
and executive bonuses. Many corporate leaders said at a meeting with White House
officials said they would not be investing the money back into their companies.
CMO Beaver - Beaver, UTJan. 31, 2018 11:15 a.m."Apparently
the speech drew a 75% approval number in polls."Where? Was this
an on-line Fox News poll for its listeners? It certainly was not some legitimate
poll which takes more than a few minutes to gather. Perhaps we need a discussion
on statistical polling and the procedure that pollsters following in conducting
polls. Certainly, if you polled Republicans, you would find 75% approving of
Donald Trump. However, citing such a number at this time only indicates how
questionable it is.As for those writing in about how great the
Republican corporate tax cuts are for middle class people, understand that many
of these corporations were already getting huge profits which could have gone
into employee pay increases and bonuses. However, these corporations chose not
to reward their employees, but appear to have waited until they got even more
money to give one-time bonuses while laying off thousands of workers.Let's give this a year and see how the predictions pan out. Talk about
middle-class tax savings is only so much hot air. Tax season is beginning only
now. Don't suggest massive savings until the numbers come in.
A big Nothing Burger. When Donald Trump talks about "beautiful,
clean coal" it's time to turn to another channel. Coal is neither
"beautiful" nor "clean". Although not as bad as his
"carnage" inauguration speech, it offered nothing to those not already
living in that alternate universe called Trump World.Noticeable that
nothing was mentioned about Russia and federal plans to intercept and defeat
Russian cyberattacks in the 2018 election. But then we already know that Trump
doesn't want to cause friction with Vladimir Putin. So far Trump has his
secret well-hidden and has made another payment to the Russians by not
implementing the new sanctions the Congress placed on that nation for its
interference in our 2016 election.Also, it was a surprise that Trump
didn't give Devin Nunes (R, CA), Chairman of the House Intelligence
Committee, a shout-out for the controversial Republican memo that the Trump
White House may have provided in an attempt to discredit the FBI and Robert
Mueller. Republicans have unified on this subterfuge to keep Trump in place and
themselves in power.There is no question that Utah Republicans
support Trump. Even Mia Love, in the end, will stand with him.
Ok Trumpsters, I’d give you a pat on the back and the satisfaction from
Trump’s “clap and spin” show. And for all that, like the
evangelicals, I’d give the guy a mulligan. But then afterwards, hmmm ...
maybe, a Mueller-gan?
Reading the comments here make me laugh....the liberals who all claim that the
tax bill only helps the rich and already wealthy. Walmart workers will be
surprised to hear that they are in the wealthy category ( Walmart announced
bonuses to all workers because of the bill), next month when payroll taxes
change, everyone who receives a paycheck will have more money ( they must be
rich and wealthy as well). A family of 4 who makes $50,000.00 per year will
pay $4000.00 less in taxes. The liberals have nothing....just the same old
tired class warfare. And to hear Mayor Buskupski claim that there is no such
thing as clean coal technology is ridiculous. She needs to inform herself with
some information and not get all of her environmental information from Al Gore.
Come to So. Utah Mayor, and visit with the coal mines here, there have been
great strides in coal technology. I know, you just want Bear Ears to be 3
million acres so you can hike there.
That loud sucking noise coming from Salt Lake City is the Legislature on
scooping up the federal tax relief for their own coffers, dreams, and list of
goodies. It would be nice if we didn't have to pay income tax on Social
Security (we paid once already when we earned the money) to both Utah and Uncle
Sam. No perceived tax law ever goes un-passed, especially in Utah.
I haven't enjoyed "the day after" so much since Hilary folded like
an old lawn chair. President Trump's speech was a grand slam home-run!
The best part of last night's speech is how absolutely crazy it has made
the Trump-haters. Their reactions and comments are price-less! Please keep
them coming. I want more.
Hey spankee, what happened to my "Middle-Class Tax Cut?" With the exact
same income and exemptions as 2017 - my Federal tax withholding is now HIGHER
under the new tax bill. I guess someone has to pay for those corporate tax
cuts. Tag - I'm it.
@illuminated, Well the ACLU did come out condemning the use of America in his
speech. They said it was divisive. It is the state of the union
speech, the union of "The United States of America."
Apparently the speech drew a 75% approval number in pollsOf course
it drew a 0% approval number at NBC, MSNBC and CNN... but there is no media
biasHa ha ha ha
Of course, Trump's speech rings true with our Utah Culture. As a
peace-loving people, we need a bigger military. With a 1.5 trillion dollar tax
cut, it makes perfect sense to spend 1.5 trillion of money we haven't
budgeted on infrastructure. I'm all for the infrastructure but.... Then, of
course, as a family loving people, it's great to have people of merit
immigrate instead of families. Also, why should we worry about a Russian
investigation, or a prostitute's payoff, or late night tweets putting down
our free press or anyone who disagrees with Pres. Trump so it's OK to
ignore these topics.
@ Lou Montana: Democrats taking credit for President Trump's successes is
like the rooster taking credit for the sun rising!I thought that
Trump already had the rising sun and the creation of man covered by his
magnificence and his stable genius.
Hey JSF -Re: "Pelosi's comments regarding the corporate
bonuses being paid out to working men and women, There just crumbs. 'They are just crumbs, compared to the the benefits that go to the
already wealthy.The Republican Tax Scam is just that . . . A scam.
Trump used the word, "America" over 80 times in his speech. I wonder if
the LDS Church will issue a statement condemning Nationalism again today...
Our President is quite unique, isn't he?As with last
year's January address to Congress, this year Trump once again saw fit to
exploit the suffering of Americans for his own personal benefit.Last year it was a war widow, whose copious tears saturated Trump's
speech, a situation obviously designed to transfer sympathy for the widow to
the Trump administration.This year it was the parents of the late
Otto Warmbier, the young man who came back from North Korea a walking vegetable
. . . A gesture of disrespect from Kim Jong Un to Donald J Trump.The Warmbiers predictably cried of course, and Trump sucked up the
nation's empathy like a parasite. All-Drama Trump Putin’s Chump
habitually exploits the tragedies and sadness of Americans. Does the man have
NO decency at all?And it doesn't really help him, does it? . .
. At least not with discerning Americans, Regardless, 35 to 40
percent of undiscerning Americans will forever wax ecstatic over the perceived
magnificence of that national disgrace in the White House.Republicans call it “exquisite presidential leadership.”
@ Lou Montana: Democrats taking credit for President Trump's successes is
like the rooster taking credit for the sun rising!
Of course they give their support to the most narcissistic, lease qualified, and
worst president ever elected. Not surprising at all. Party before
country. Money before people. Self interest before duty. Its the new GOP mantra.
t702 claims: "In less than a year, Trump and his team executed their plan
that yield lowest unemployment rate ever recorded among blacks and latinos yet
not a single democrat applauded. "...and what was that plan that
they executed? I'm curious as to what they actually did that accomplished
this, besides just existing. I mean if your claiming this then you should be
able to point to exactly what they did? I'm calling your bluff, there was
no plan.Trump's claims are seldom facts.
Oh and then we look at the democrat response. Who did they pick, but a white
privileged, rich white person with a family history of deception, sexual
improprieties, and murders.Pelosi's comments regarding the
corporate bonuses being paid out to working men and women, There just crumbs.
Talk about a lack of reality. She might as well said let them eat cake. We have learned democrats are not for settling the illegal immigration
problem, they are not interested in solving the unemployment issues of the black
and Hispanic communities. If there is anything virtuous, lovely or of good
report, democrats will berate it and anyone other than them that had anything to
do with it.
Taking credit for other's hard work is an old GOP game.
Utah leaders in step with the party...what is next?This morning the
reviews say that the liar liar pants on fire alarms were ringing off the hook.
And we expect nothing less from our elected leader. Great to feel okay about
having low expectations, talk about not disappointing.New
immigration program would prevent Mia Loves relatives from ever darkening our
shore. By the way Mia did you ever get that apology from the LEADER?McDonalds hit with huge tax increases with the new financial program, however
his billionaire buds get a free ride again at our expense. Harley Davidson an
American Icon now closing factories and laying off people63% of
Americans were against the new tax code then he gets up and brags about it.
Only there to serve himself.
I am sorry but making America great by making our billionaire class the
wealthiest in the world and yet at the same time our bottom 40 percent is worse
off than in most western countries, is wrong.
CBS poll: 75% of Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the
Union address approved of the speech he gave. Just a mere 25% disapproved.Question in poll: "How did President Trump's speech make you
Another defeat for the Democrats! Did you see the reaction on the Demos
faces in the gallery during the speech who sat on their hands during otherwise
In less than a year, Trump and his team executed their plan that yield lowest
unemployment rate ever recorded among blacks and latinos yet not a single
democrat applauded. That tells you everything you need to know about the
America and the whole world saw trump stick to the script last night. Sadly,
that is what success looks like. He didn't try too hard to trash or insult
anybody, or air too many of his own grievances. We're under no illusion
that this situation will continue even through the day today. As for the
exercise as a whole, trump found opportunity to find greatness in himself, and a
few others. But what of it reported on the state of the union? What of the
union as geography (except that we're happily tearing it apart for mythical
'clean' coal), or environment or people? What of the union as an
amalgam of states? It seems there are a lot of things he could have addressed
there. This soapbox for North Korean style standing ovations has lost its'
@PromSorry, but President Trump does not have"shifty little
eyes". And, it was Nancy Pelosi who was checking out fellow liberals and
"taking names" (mentally) to ensure that she keeps them all in line.Also, Barack Obama did the exact same thing by "trotting out"
various victims and those with success stories to share. Of course, guess it was
perfectly OK for HIM to do that?😉
America and the entire world saw real leadership last night! They saw and heard
hope, vision, real patriotism and plans for a great future for all the people of
America! President Trump rightfully honored our heroes and inspired love of our
great country! President defined the best in America and it was wonderful! The
nation and the world also saw anger, bitterness and defeat in the faces of the
Democrats who could not muster an applause for all the wonderful good news,
patriotism and successes Americans are experiencing! I also listened to the
Democrat's response and heard nothing but hate and anger, no vision, no
plans, no hope, nothing but alleged "victimhood"; actually very, very
depressing! President Trump's remarks and successes have brought such
optimism, pride in our patriotism, more prosperity and confidence! America got
it right when we elected President Trump!
Jen, that sounded just like an annoying mom. You risked it, you did it! Good
Of course the Utah delegates support Trump. There's nothing he could say
or do to lose their support. Party first! Party first! Party first! It is true that Democrats look bewildered at realizing that someone
actually wants to accomplish something, but let's not forget that
Republicans looked just as bewildered when realizing that someone also wanted to
accomplish the same things during his State of the Union speeches. The State of the Union is just pure political theater, but there is one subtle
take-away people need to realize that I gleaned from this speech. We will be at
war with North Korea and perhaps China and even Russia before the midterm
elections in November. People need to start getting their houses in order
because times are about to get really tough.
I wanted him to talk more about how we need to understand that were are good
people among the tiki torch carriers in Charlottesville. Many people still think
that those who were crying "heil Trump" and "Jews will not replace
us" somehow hate freedom. Wow, that's a stretch. Also, why didn't
he stick up for Russia a bit more? So many Dems are convinced that Russia
hacking into elections is somehow something that they could or would ever do, or
that it's somehow important. Shessh! Have some faith in fellow people from
European nations, folks. And lastly--too many people are under the mistaken
notion that our Intel agencies are just stocked with good and loyal Americans
who are trying to protect our freedoms and protect us from those who would do us
harm. President Trump shouldn't go so soft on them. He should point out,
again and again--that getting HIM is their real agenda and not keeping us safe.
PS----Any media that doesn't like him is fake and what else? Oh yeah---we
No mention of the pending debt crisis. No mention of how the trade deficit
increased, even more so, in the past year. And no mention that our deficit is
expected to be nearly a trillion dollars in 2019. What I saw was a
suburban high school pep rally promising to shellac k that inner city school in
the weekend football game.
Not sure he could have squeezed anymore props, or people with sad or horrific
stories which are unique, not common, to spread more of his fear and hatred.America is being set up for a fall, and the GOP cheer.Since
Donald isn't interested in history or reading for that matter, he
can't see that it's repeating, and not in a good way.What
was humorous was watching Trumps shifty little eyes keep darting over to the
Democrats to see if they had stood up, he couldn't bear the idea of not
having the entire room cheering him, as he is accustomed to, in the carefully
controlled crowds selected to adore him at his rallys'.I really
felt sorry for the people he drug out as props, they deserve better, and far
more respect, even Melania.
Of course they do. Just like good little minions. And people wonder how things
came to rise in 1920's Germany?
At the risk of sounding like an annoying mom, I'd like to tell the Utah
Trump Cheerleading Team that cheerleading can be a dangerous sport.
From the looks on Schumer's, Hoyer's, and Pelosi's faces during
the speech, nothing will change.Obstructionists will still abound
and partisan politics will continue to reign supreme.
It was a bit long, but as Trump speeches goes, it was ok. He stayed on
script. He avoided over the top hyperbole. It was a bit stiff. But over
all.... ok. I would love for us to be able to move past the immigration issue
- and start worrying more about real issues facing out national security. I am far more worried about what North Korea is doing - we seem to have
lost control of this situation - and we are the administration is too focused on
Russian appeasement to address very real issues of Russia trying to meddle in
foreign elections. Russia has directly attacked US backed groups is Syria -
with little to no reprisal from the US. And we keep wanting to stick China in
the eye - where we need to be working on a fair trade agreement with them.But until we get passed these "noise" issues, we will not get to
real issues. Economy has continued to do great - credit Trump. North Korea
now has 100 long range nuclear capable missiles.... may make the economy
The President went straight to the American people. They know the truth when
they see it. I hope he takes this higher road in the future and stops these
crazy tweets. We all need to bury the hatchet on both sides. emb
Sadly the upbeat Conservative movement of Jack Kemp and Ronald Reagan has been
hijacked by the Breitbarts and Hannity's of the world with their constant
message of fear and anger, which has become a multi-billion dollar business for
the alt-Right media.Speaking of billions, we also have Mr. Trump
whose family is pitching 'America First' out of one side of their
mouths while pitching the Trump Empire to investors and politicians (often the
same people in many countries). Trump and his billionaire friends are only going
to get richer, all while pretending to support the average working man (yes,
man). Now the message is 'the Economy is great, so why are you
worried about the erosion in liberties, respect, racism, climate change,
etc.?'. Or, 'Yeah, Trump says some crazy stuff, but how about that
Stock Market/Tax Cut?' Whenever someone sells their values for
money, I don't believe they really ever treasured those values. And the economy was already trending up since 2009. So unless you're
gonna give Obama credit too, stop talking about how great things are. The
counties where 80% of that growth came from, were in Clinton territory and
mostly from Tech, not Mfg., etc.
I would, and did, cheer Mr Trump with regards to much that he accomplished
against great odds: his fight against "the swamp", the reduction in the
horrendous corporate taxes (that we all end up paying), the deregulations that
help businesses that are not mega-corporations, the end of the Obama mandate on
health insurance. The alternative of a Democrat Party that seems to want to
destroy us fast and completely is unthinkable.I's the best Mr
Trump, or anyone, could have done, given Congress. On the other hand:I have followed with interest the post-presidential Trump rallies and have
noted that his loyal supporters cheered him on where he had accomplished many
needed reforms but there was a "deafening silence" when he touted
"income tax reform". I feel for them for "a typical family of four
earning $75K a year" is NOT TYPICAL and a tax threshold of only $20K will
not help the working poor including the dwindling family statistic where Mom
stays home rather than farm out her children to the tender mercies of crazy
educators who are often little better than a department of mind control and
aides to permissiveness in arguably one of the very worst-educated nations in
Wow. The dems looked ridiculous. The party of gloom and doom. They looked like
they were chewing on lemons while record low unemployment, record high stock
market and real American hero’s were being introduced. I didn’t
expect much from them and they didn’t disappoint me.Seven more years
libs. I’m not tired of winning yet but after the previous 8 years everyday
is a winner.
The Mayor still can't figure it out. I large portion of the world fuels
their economy with the cheapest sources of fuel and won't go green anytime
soon. So why not sell them Utah coal or that matter any US coal. No the libs
can't handle facts. So they will kill their own economy and while not
making a dent in their green energy or nothing logic.
It was priceless watching the Democrats looking bewildered and shocked with the
realization that someone actually wants to accomplish something in the best
interest of our country. Right an most Americans don't want to turn this
country over to those most likely to vote for Democrats. Keep them poor,
dependent and living with crime. If that is your plan for life, keep voting for