@Mike Richards:Apple is, arguably the flagship "liberal"
company, while TrumpCorp is clearly the perfect conservative company according
to the religious right political machine. So the argument is Apple
having exacting high quality technical specs was the problem and not Foxconn
having a toxic management culture. I assume your computer company
allowed programmers to code "pretty close" to what was needed, and the
hardware side to be installed mostly correct? Yes? No? Meanwhile,
the real problem is people picking on the poor little rich girl running
sweatshops across Southeast Asia - the Guardian took a long look at working
conditions in her factories and published a blistering report last summer. Apple reacted to the situation by demanding changes. Trump
reacted to the situation by claiming she "know noth-ink! Noth-hink!"When will Trump onshore her operations, paying union wages, providing
full benefits, in factories that meet American manufacturing standards?
The question is NOT corporate responsibility otherwise the article would
directly address Nike, Samsung, most appliance manufactures, most TV and
electronic manufacturers and most clothing manufacturers. The article was
nothing more than another Trump family bash. How many people who work for the
companies that the Trump family contracts with have had suicides because a glass
surface was 0.01 inch out of specification - as was the case for Apple's
standards not being met at the Foxconn where employees were fired for that small
of a discrepancy - employees whose extended family depended on that small
paycheck.This was not an Apples to Oranges article. It dismissed
the effects of Apple's "standards" which led to the suicides of
Foxconn employees to unlisted problems with those companies hired by the Trumps
to conduct business for them. Why not have an Apples to Apples article where
all problems are listed, all suicides are listed and all company criteria that
led to those suicides listed. Not one suicide has been attributed to the
Trumps. Next, do some math. Those who make products for Ivanka Trump are paid
almost 11% more than the average Chinese worker.
Trumps - Ethics? Oxymoron.
More examples of Trump royalty acting as though they don't have any
responsibility for how they treat people, but the rest of you need to produce
your products at American Facilities....and his sycophants
can't wait to defend treating others poorly, well they're not
Americans, so it's acceptable to conservatives and capitalists who put
money above humanity as a value.
@Mike Richards:The topic is corporate response and responsibility to
sweatshop conditions in factories run by sub-contractors, not taxes. Apple, as a corporation, has worked to change the bad conditions. Trump, as a
corporation, has ignored and denied the bad conditions while continuing to
profit from near slave labor. And it is funny - their "MAGA"
chant doesn't seem to include paying living wages to American workers in
American factories to make Trump brand junk. Why is that? Meanwhile,
Apple, along with many other global companies, incorporated their European
operations in Ireland, which has very low tax rates. Apple is following the law
in Europe. In the US Apple follows US tax law and pays US taxes at
US tax rates. If you want to pay less taxes in Europe you need to incorporate
your European operations in Ireland. But that won't help your US taxes.
Mike Richards: “Am I responsible for the working conditions of the people
who make those parts?
Are YOU responsible for the working
?”Well, yes.Conservative defenders
of Hobby Lobby argued that the company would be morally complicit in
objectionable acts if it provided insurance policies to employees that covered
those acts-- even though Hobby Lobby’s premiums would be pooled with
others and there was no certainty that a Hobby Lobby employee would ever make a
claim for those services. No dollar spent for the service could ever be traced
back to Hobby Lobby. Hobby Lobby’s role in the objectionable services was
attenuated and speculative, but that was sufficient justification for them to
claim harm. With sweatshops the role of the consumer of a product in the
product’s manufacture is much more direct and knowable. If you believe
that Hobby Lobby is culpable in buying an abortifacient through its insurance
premium, then you are absolutely culpable for the workplace conditions of that
appliance you bought.You don’t have to personally inspect
every Chinese factory, but there are ways to ensure better knowledge of
conditions. Supply chain transparency is key.
Ivanka needs to sell her trinkets and handbags as quickly as possible. She will
probably seek to legally change her name in the near future..
Apple makes the most expensive computer product being sold to the average
household. As reported by CNN Tech about Apple Sep 1, 2016: "The corporate
giant paid just $50 in tax for every million it made selling iPhones and iPads
to most of the world outside America, the EU claimed, equal to a tax rate of
just 0.005% in 2014." Do the math yourself. You and I are in a 15% or 25%
or 35% tax bracket. Apple's bracket was 0.005% or 3,000 times LESS than our
15% bracket.I buy electrical componets for the process contral
computers that I design and build. Am I responsible for the working conditions
of the people who make those parts? Am I expected to visit the factories where
those components are made? Am I to demand that working conditions be changed
OR, as Ms. Trump, am I to expect that those companies that I buy from that might
have direct contracts with factories in China be responsible for the working
conditions of the people who make the products?Look around your
home. Are YOU responsible for the working conditions of everyone who made your
China based items? Should YOU visit China and demand changes?