Amazon says thanks, no thanks, to Utah's HQ2 proposal

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  • JP Skillet Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 1:59 p.m.

    My brother works in the transportation corporate office in Phoenix. Great management salary and $$$ stock coming his way. He promoted from a warehouse employee, where the pay was OK ($12 - $15/hr), but they get 6 weeks time off (4 of it paid) and amazing health insurance. It seems like a really good company. Yes, it's hard work and they don't do ping pong tables and free lunches, etc but the company got to where it is with incredibly hard work, high standards and constant drive from it's people. Why else do the customer love Amazon. Enough said. Have a good day ya'll.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 12:32 p.m.

    Cracks me up to see people say "oh, we didn't want it any way." The same people who want more economic development and pro-business government. Right.....

  • James E Tooele, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:56 a.m.

    I say count your blessings. Whoever gets this pig-in-a-poke will regret it as the costs mount and overwhelm any benefits.

    As for the commenters disparaging Utah, the Earth is vast, go find your happiness. It obviously isn't here. We'll be okay without you.

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:48 a.m.

    That's good news. I know folks who have worked at Amazon. Work-life balance is a joke, and while millions of us love what Amazon provides, the culture for employees sounds awful, and a poor fit here. Utah population demographics, cost of living and many other factors all bode well for an excellent economy for decades to come. Amazon would have certainly brought some benefits, but I feared it would have caused major disruption with more negatives than positives.

  • CKS007 Clearfield, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:42 a.m.

    (cough) (cough) Gee I couldn't see why they wouldn't choose Utah. (wheeze) (gasp) But with our air we can't see much anyway.

  • smitxxx Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:22 a.m.

    Glad we're not paying their ransom and that they're not coming. Utah has so much innovation going on that we're going to need those 50,000 employees.

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:07 a.m.

    Very happy they found somewhere else.

    Why is more congestion in our small space a good idea? Why subsidize congestion as other cities are ready to do with they sell their souls to get a big business ? Why is putting all our marbles in one business that may decide to pull strings, make demands or threaten to pull out later on?

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 10:02 a.m.

    Utah could be a very attractive place for a company like this, but there are some drawbacks. The proximity to Seattle doesn't help in the case of Amazon. Further, the right-wing reactionary stuff going on here is harmful (e.g., the Outdoor Retailer departure, the push by Utah politicians to cut back or eliminate wilderness designations, etc.). Some can dismiss these things, but they do matter, especially to those in the driver seat for the industries that will drive future economic development. Coal ain't it. Tourism is more in line, and much has been done here in recent times to damper the enthusiasm for tourism in Utah. Further, Utah's undying support for Trump doesn't help (all for policy reasons). Utah has cast its lot, and it is not for Utah's long term interests.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 8:57 a.m.

    Good. Why do we want to be giving a Billionaire like Bezos any of our taxpayer money and make him richer because he wouldn't be paying any taxes in Utah for his business for years? Personally, I'm glad that this isn't happening. A company like Amazon shouldn't even be asking for tax incentives. They make enough money that paying a little extra shouldn't be of concern. One of the reasons that I don't patronize Amazon and never will. Same with Walmart.

  • Clip the man SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    I'm glad they didn't choose Utah. The citizens and taxpayers of Utah shouldn't be giving favoritism to one business over another. Additionally the leadership of our state shouldn't be promising secret tax break deals behind closed doors.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    Jan. 19, 2018 8:35 a.m.

    Well let's face it:

    Amazon management is discerning. Jeff Bezos didn't get where he is by being stupid. Unlike Donald Trump, Bezos wasn't born wealthy. He worked. More importantly, Bezos out-thinks his competitors.

    Bezos knows it would be foolish to build in Utah. He wants to build in a GREAT place, and Utah really isn't all that great.

    "Utah - A pretty, great state?"

    Uh huh . . . Well . . . It is if you like to choke on smog and be called a gentile.

    BTW, Virginia is still in the running. Why? . . . Because it's a great state, and Jeff Bezos is not dumb.

  • kranny utah, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 7:34 a.m.

    More growth? Why is more better? We're already log-jammed on the freeways. My property values and taxes continue to rise, something I don't want or need. Pumping more tax dollars into the schools will never improve kids education, though some worship the ornate structures higher taxes allow the system to build. Growth doesn't always mean prosperity.

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 7:29 a.m.

    Amazon won't come here -

    Because we have bad air.

    Our airshed over depleted. The Salt Lake Valley is over built.

    Quality of life is declining.

    Going to the new Hale Center Theater just does not cut the negative of bad air.

    What good is a good job with bad air? You can't buy health once it's gone.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 19, 2018 6:58 a.m.

    Impartial..... throwing tax incentives towards groups is not just for billionaire owners. The state of Utah does the exact same things for families. Every state does. The more kids you have, the less tax you pay despite the fact that by having more kids you increase the states expenses. Every single person out there who has a kid has benefited from the government placing incentives to get you to do something.

    Your want a bigger population - you give incentives to have bigger families. You want more business, you give businesses incentives to locate in your community.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 6:56 a.m.

    How's that secret sales tax deal Utah crafted with Amazon working out for you Utah?

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 19, 2018 6:23 a.m.

    Well that’s lame. I was hoping for more jam packed freeways and pollution.

    Jan. 18, 2018 9:22 p.m.

    Amazon knows what they are doing by creating a bidding war, but it doesn't make sense to put in anyplace but in the East.

    SLC should be happy they haven't become like Seattle where average living conditions require a trust fund or significant stock options.

  • moabite98 Moab, UT
    Jan. 18, 2018 9:00 p.m.

    Short list? The one I saw today had 20 cities on it!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 18, 2018 8:06 p.m.

    The GOED is always willing to throw tens, sometimes hundreds, of millions of taxpayer dollars on multi billion dollar companies with billionaire owners. How about helping the local economies in many Utah cities with investment incentives for Utah small businesses?