My brother works in the transportation corporate office in Phoenix. Great
management salary and $$$ stock coming his way. He promoted from a warehouse
employee, where the pay was OK ($12 - $15/hr), but they get 6 weeks time off (4
of it paid) and amazing health insurance. It seems like a really good company.
Yes, it's hard work and they don't do ping pong tables and free
lunches, etc but the company got to where it is with incredibly hard work, high
standards and constant drive from it's people. Why else do the customer
love Amazon. Enough said. Have a good day ya'll.
Cracks me up to see people say "oh, we didn't want it any way."
The same people who want more economic development and pro-business government.
I say count your blessings. Whoever gets this pig-in-a-poke will regret it as
the costs mount and overwhelm any benefits. As for the commenters
disparaging Utah, the Earth is vast, go find your happiness. It obviously
isn't here. We'll be okay without you.
That's good news. I know folks who have worked at Amazon. Work-life balance
is a joke, and while millions of us love what Amazon provides, the culture for
employees sounds awful, and a poor fit here. Utah population demographics, cost
of living and many other factors all bode well for an excellent economy for
decades to come. Amazon would have certainly brought some benefits, but I feared
it would have caused major disruption with more negatives than positives.
(cough) (cough) Gee I couldn't see why they wouldn't choose Utah.
(wheeze) (gasp) But with our air we can't see much anyway.
Glad we're not paying their ransom and that they're not coming. Utah
has so much innovation going on that we're going to need those 50,000
Very happy they found somewhere else. Why is more congestion in our
small space a good idea? Why subsidize congestion as other cities are ready to
do with they sell their souls to get a big business ? Why is putting all our
marbles in one business that may decide to pull strings, make demands or
threaten to pull out later on?
Utah could be a very attractive place for a company like this, but there are
some drawbacks. The proximity to Seattle doesn't help in the case of
Amazon. Further, the right-wing reactionary stuff going on here is harmful
(e.g., the Outdoor Retailer departure, the push by Utah politicians to cut back
or eliminate wilderness designations, etc.). Some can dismiss these things, but
they do matter, especially to those in the driver seat for the industries that
will drive future economic development. Coal ain't it. Tourism is more in
line, and much has been done here in recent times to damper the enthusiasm for
tourism in Utah. Further, Utah's undying support for Trump doesn't
help (all for policy reasons). Utah has cast its lot, and it is not for
Utah's long term interests.
Good. Why do we want to be giving a Billionaire like Bezos any of our taxpayer
money and make him richer because he wouldn't be paying any taxes in Utah
for his business for years? Personally, I'm glad that this isn't
happening. A company like Amazon shouldn't even be asking for tax
incentives. They make enough money that paying a little extra shouldn't be
of concern. One of the reasons that I don't patronize Amazon and never
will. Same with Walmart.
I'm glad they didn't choose Utah. The citizens and taxpayers of Utah
shouldn't be giving favoritism to one business over another. Additionally
the leadership of our state shouldn't be promising secret tax break deals
behind closed doors.
Well let's face it:Amazon management is discerning. Jeff Bezos
didn't get where he is by being stupid. Unlike Donald Trump, Bezos
wasn't born wealthy. He worked. More importantly, Bezos out-thinks his
competitors.Bezos knows it would be foolish to build in Utah. He
wants to build in a GREAT place, and Utah really isn't all that great."Utah - A pretty, great state?"Uh huh . . . Well .
. . It is if you like to choke on smog and be called a gentile.BTW, Virginia is still in the running. Why? . . . Because it's a
great state, and Jeff Bezos is not dumb.
More growth? Why is more better? We're already log-jammed on the
freeways. My property values and taxes continue to rise, something I don't
want or need. Pumping more tax dollars into the schools will never improve kids
education, though some worship the ornate structures higher taxes allow the
system to build. Growth doesn't always mean prosperity.
Amazon won't come here - Because we have bad air.Our airshed over depleted. The Salt Lake Valley is over built. Quality of life is declining. Going to the new Hale Center Theater
just does not cut the negative of bad air.What good is a good job
with bad air? You can't buy health once it's gone.
Impartial..... throwing tax incentives towards groups is not just for
billionaire owners. The state of Utah does the exact same things for families.
Every state does. The more kids you have, the less tax you pay despite the
fact that by having more kids you increase the states expenses. Every single
person out there who has a kid has benefited from the government placing
incentives to get you to do something. Your want a bigger
population - you give incentives to have bigger families. You want more
business, you give businesses incentives to locate in your community.
How's that secret sales tax deal Utah crafted with Amazon working out for
Well that’s lame. I was hoping for more jam packed freeways and pollution.
Amazon knows what they are doing by creating a bidding war, but it doesn't
make sense to put in anyplace but in the East.SLC should be happy
they haven't become like Seattle where average living conditions require a
trust fund or significant stock options.
Short list? The one I saw today had 20 cities on it!
The GOED is always willing to throw tens, sometimes hundreds, of millions of
taxpayer dollars on multi billion dollar companies with billionaire owners. How
about helping the local economies in many Utah cities with investment incentives
for Utah small businesses?