Utah is top state for population growth, but not just because people are moving here

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  • All American Herriman, UT
    Jan. 15, 2018 8:41 a.m.

    I think it's strange and concerning that when anyone, locals or government, talk about how we need to continue growing our population here in Utah, no one ever mentions that we still live in a desert. As the population grows, it requires more and more water. Where is it going to come from? Rain dancing?

  • Llew40 Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:20 p.m.

    With half the LDS female membership in the church single and I personally know many more never married LDS women than men here in Utah, overpopulation should be the least of our worries. Yes, the age for sister missionaries was lowered but how long is it taking for these RMs to get married? Of course, some kind of dating and courtship also must happen before any babies can be born. How is Utah doing in that area?

  • wrz Springville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2018 3:20 p.m.

    @the REAL DEAL: - Sandy, UT
    "People's reasons for migrating may change at different times for different reasons. But I don't think it's because they are aiming to take over their new destinations."

    Please check the reasons, as expressed by leaders of mid east countries, why they are migrating and what they're plans are... It goes something like "we'd like to establish caliphates across the world, including Europe and the US."

    "If your main concern with population growth is middle eastern people taking over the world/US rest assured that you and I will be long gone from this earth by then."

    True, but our descendants (children/grand children, etc.) won't. If immigration continues the way it is now, our descendants may be required to bow to Mecca when they pray.

    @coltakashi:
    "The birth rates worldwide, even in Africa and India, have fallen below replacement levels."

    Not in mid east countries... where the birth rate is well above replacement... 6/8/10 per family.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Jan. 11, 2018 12:55 p.m.

    I don't mean to offend anyone but I do mean to speak the truth:

    The constant flood of people from across America, and from California in particular, have done a lot to change Utah over the last 40 years or so, and not in a good way.

    Californians ran out of California after they either ruined it or helped ruin it by being quiet as it descended into immorality and political foolishness, sold their 1300 square foot ranch-style homes for massive sums of money, then came to Utah and then quickly started to complain that Utah was not like California.

    Well, that's because we didn't intend it to be like California.

    Yes, I currently live in Oklahoma but my entire family is still in Utah and I'd like to move back in a few years. Not sure how much of my state's beloved "quaint" culture will be left by then.

  • coltakashi Richland, WA
    Jan. 11, 2018 10:40 a.m.

    The newborn in the pictures is my neice's son.
    The birth rates worldwide, even in Africa and India, have fallen below replacement levels. That means that in 30 years far fewer mothers will be having babies, and world population will start to decline, as is already true in Japan and Russia. Population analysts calculate that population will shrink faster than it has grown. Social security and other private and government retirement programs depend on a large base of working people to support the retired. As younger populations shrink, the funds for the elderly will shrink. The trend for people to work into their 70s will grow. In all the population shrinkage, there is lots of room for large Mormon families. In the US they will soon pass up the Methodists to become the third largest denomination after Southern Baptists, whose membership is shrinking.

  • K Mchenry, IL
    Jan. 10, 2018 6:03 p.m.

    There was no pill in the 50’s.

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 2:57 p.m.

    @wrz - Springville, UT

    The reason so many middle easterns and many other people are moving to Europe and the west is because human beings have been migrating to different places on this planet since they discovered how to do it. This fact will never change. Peoples reasons for migrating may change at different times for different reasons. But I don't think it's because they are aiming to take over their new destinations.

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 2:44 p.m.

    @wrz - Springville, UT

    If your main concern with population growth is middle eastern people taking over the world/US rest assured that you and I will be long gone from this earth by then.

  • Sion Knoxville, TN
    Jan. 10, 2018 1:11 p.m.

    The look on Zoey's face is the true definition of joy

  • a bit of reality Shawnee Mission, KS
    Jan. 10, 2018 12:47 p.m.

    @Light and Liberty - St George, UT

    I have found memories of camping at Zion National Park when I was a child in the 70's. Back then, the park had about a million visitors a year. Now the park has 4 times that amount, and it is no longer the same experience. What will it be like when 10 million people visit every year? 20 million? 50 million?

    Yes, with current and future technology we could figure out how to squeeze tens of billions of more people into the planet and keep them fed. But what would the quality of life be? Would living in Saint George still be a nice place to live if its population were greater than that of Shanghai?

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 12:30 p.m.

    I don't care what the reasons are. I just wish people would stop coming here. All those from california can go back where they came from. They have effectively destroyed our once fine state.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 11:42 a.m.

    Overpopulation is a myth. If anything, we should be promoting the formation of families with children as a benefit to both personal growth and economic growth. The last thing we should be promoting is that a child is burden or that there isn't enough room. Cultures and nations are disappearing because of this shortsighted idea. When I was going to school in the 70s there were 'credible' alarmists declaring that by the year 2000 there would be mass starvation, oil reserves depletion, a new ice age, and or the end of the world. How foolish! People actually listened and adapted themselves to this new reality and lost much more than can be outlined here. The bottom line is that this world has enough space and potential and room for hundreds of billions of people, let alone the measly 50 billion fifty or 100 years down the road! Lets keep myths as such.

  • wrz Springville, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 11:29 a.m.

    @the REAL DEAL:
    "The last thing Utah or the world needs is more people."

    Tell that to the mid-east countries where the reproduction rate is somewhere around six to eight and more per couple (compared to the US rate of just barely replacement). Why do you think there's so much immigration from those countries to Europe and the West? They're flooding in and taking over in many cases.

  • the REAL DEAL Sandy, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 10:46 a.m.

    The last thing Utah or the world needs is more people.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    @Florwood
    I think Utah only barely got the 4th in the last go-around and we won't gain around 900k people this decade so it'll be at least 2030 before Utah gets a 5th.

  • a bit of reality Shawnee Mission, KS
    Jan. 10, 2018 10:19 a.m.

    Fast growth and young populations have definite economic advantages, but they are inherently short-term. 2% annual growth corresponds to a population that doubles every 35 years. Starting with 2 million people on the Wasatch front, this corresponds to 4 million people in 35 years, 8 million people in 70 years, and 16 million people in 105 years, and 32 million people in 140 years.

    Granted, few of us will be around in 140 years, and of course there is no way that 2% growth in Utah will continue for the next 140 years. But the question is, would we really want it to? What would the quality of life be with 32 million people living on the Wasatch Front?

  • Sad Sack Hurricane, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 10:13 a.m.

    Doesn't anyone see the continuing boom of population growth to be a double edged sword? Yes, it is great for the economy, but do we really want to have uncontrollable growth here? When will we reach the point where we say we're getting to be a state that has so much urban area that it is no longer a good place to live?

  • Johnny Triumph Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 9:33 a.m.

    Using more Sister Missionaries as a reason is shortsighted, if women still decide to have families and are only slightly later than has typically been in the past then we should see an increase in pregnancies that match. This is a flawed analysis of the data.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    Jan. 10, 2018 8:44 a.m.

    In a related issue, I wonder if Utah's growth during this decade will be enough to earn it an additional Congressional seat when that is apportioned after the 2020 census.