Can someone tell me how it is that the executive director of the Kane County
Water Conservancy Board (Mr. Noel) is able to run a bill that affects his
industry? Don't we have conflict of interest rules in the Utah legislature?
Oh yeah, that's that old "best-run" state canard again.
Self-dealing is apparently expected if not encouraged.
I wish they'd take aim at the horrible lack of HOA (Homeowner's
Association) laws, or I should say total lack of HOA laws. Nevada has very
specific laws to govern Associations and Utah has none. What happens is what
happens everywhere else. If there's a chance to corrupt the system the
corrupt people come forth. There's no way to verify election's of
board members. There's no requirement for "open" elections. Yes,
each Association has it's own rules but if someone corrupt gets himself
elected, those rules can change very fast.Too many boards have closed
elections, no way to verify results, no way to see where the money goes and the
attorneys help the guy writing the check, or in other words the board members.
NO ONE to protect the homeowners themselves. State legislature in Utah has
totally missed the boat on this one. Something really needs to be done.
There's lots of homeowners assoc. in Nevada and they are governed with fair
guidelines for everyone. Open elections are "required" by law! Not so
in Utah. In Nevada you can look at the books anytime you want. Not so in Utah.
Ut state legislators are either clueless on this one or they're getting
kick backs. One or
If Noel is involved then you better watch outHe serves himself
before he serves the people of Utah
@oaklandaforlife;"If Noel is involved, pay very close attention to
this one."You got that right. Just wait til they ram a Utah
taxpayer funded "needed pipeline" down our throats. "bleeding the
Beast" (which is us taxpayers)
This is at the least an important issue to address. Being in the Legislature is
where one who is elected has their "success" based on how many bills
she/he can pass. Proof of this is the ideas for laws which are beginning to
flow from Legislators for the upcoming session. The Legislature therefore is a
place where good ideas come to die and bad ideas are either resurrected or made
worse. Incidentally, water issues are important issues and need to
We live in a desert and we need to stop landscaping our yards with so much grass
and pretending we have the water for it. Especially this year. Look at the
mountains. We are about 10 feet of snow behind. Just because you
can afford to have a football field in your back yard and pay to water it
doesn't mean you should be allowed to. The water is for everyone. We need
to manage it better. If we are going to send the police after 5
year olds playing with a toy gun made out of a stick because we have some insane
"zero tolerance" weapon policy then we should at least do the same thing
for anyone polluting our water (Tibble fork reservoir incompetents, to
industrial polluters). At least "Zero Tolerance" makes sense for
that.Also, stop building in St. George. We are out of water down
there. Just because people want to keep building doesn't mean we should
let them. Building a Billion dollar pipeline to drain Lake Powell is not an
option. The idea for us to pay for this nonsense so more developers can get
rich is silly. Stop it!
If Noel is involved, pay very close attention to this one.
Calling Mike Noel's bill a "reform" is a joke. Make no mistake:
this bill exists so he and others like him can serve politically-connected
developers and the ultra-wealthy while ruining the canyons and imperiling the
state's water resources.It's not "hoarding land and
water" to protect vital resources. And claiming that those like Salt Lake
City with water rights should sell their water for the long term at prices based
on the operating cost of water facilities ignores basic economics. Prices
reflect demand, and those whose job is not to maximize revenue but to protect
the public interest should also make prices reflect the cost to society
(externalities).The cost to Utah residents of any serious effects
from development up in the canyons on the watershed for millions below would be
extreme.The cost to Utah residents of having the Great Salt Lake dry
up - which becomes more of a real danger with every foolish political decision
that promotes irresponsible water use - would be astronomical. It would join the
drying of the Aral Sea and Owens Lake among the greatest disasters of mankind,
turning our beautiful valleys, like those, into bowls of toxic dust.
SLC is a great city with a poorly managed water department. "Protecting the waterhed" is used to deflect from double water rates,
and triple staffing per water connection.Provo/ Orem produce safe
drinking water without watershed police in Provo Canyon or controlling Sundance
Ski Resort or Heber City with a temporary "surplus" water contract.Park City, Heber Valley, Alta, Cottonwood Heights, and Millcreek should
not be paying SLC million in water hoarding taxes. No city has the
right to hoard and choke new cities into paying water hoarding taxes.Jordan Valley produces safe drinking water for $48 per acre-foot using 600 TDS
water compared to Laura Briefer's water dept's $480 per acre-foot at
her Parleys treatment plant using cleaner 200 TDS water.SLC supplies
unlimited water for unlimited resort and Public development. A basic
shared water resource must not be weaponized to take private property without
paying just compensation.There are no good reasons for cities to
hoard land and water outside their boundaries.The average person
drinks 11 gallons of tap water a year. The other 99.99% of "watershed
protected" water goes to lawns, laundry, and toilets.