Unintended consequences: Investigation reveals why drug court enrollment is declining

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  • bassoonlady OREM, UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 11:05 p.m.

    @ imsmarterthanyou,
    It's people like you who keep people from getting the help they need. Talk therapy is but one form of therapy and for some people is helpful. But there are so many different therapies now that are scientifically studied and proven to work, from cognitive behavioral therapy to EMDR, and beyond. I know that I would likely be dead if it had not been for therapy teaching me new skills for handling my thoughts and emotions. Skills that I didn't have because my parents didn't have them to teach to me. So, where else would I go to learn them?
    Please don't continue to spread misinformation and influence those who are desperate for help into thinking there us no help for them, or that there is something wrong with seeking help from those who are trained to give it.
    And for those that struggle with depression and anxiety, please know that hundreds of thousands have been through it and made it, including me. You can too. Getting help is scary, but don't be afraid to ask someone to teach you what you never knew you never knew to be able to heal. It is possible, and therapy does work. You just have to find the therapy and therapist that works best with what you need.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 7:56 p.m.

    Unfortunately, everything from the war on poverty to the war on drugs have produced nothing but more misery and pain. Why? Government is not allowed to actually promote reliance on God as a possible tool to end the misery and pain. What you get is generational welfare recipients and a lot of anger directed toward anybody that believes differently because they can trot out one success as evidence that the program works. Give any man or women off the street the trillions wasted, let them set some principles down and I'll show you an exponential success rate. Oh, I forgot, that would mean utilizing principles derived from the private sector, without government approval and secularization! It was worth a try! This is a sad commentary on the failed systems of government programs. Of course, they will just reconfigure and develop another program to dump more millions into and manipulate the legislature to spend more. Who goes without a voice? The very people that their 'good intentions' supposedly wanted to help. That is the problem of government 'good intentions'. They are instituted by 'do-gooders' that are looking for something to do with their time.

    Dec. 18, 2017 4:43 p.m.

    @Harrison Bergeron,

    Reduced sentences for drug possession are also a libertarian (rather than strictly liberal or progressive) idea. The war on drugs--criminalizing possession, brutal sentencing guidelines, militarized policing, etc.--hasn't exactly been successful in reducing drug use or crime associated with drugs. Cutting the costs to society of incarcerating users by decriminalizing possession seems like a natural consequence of the war's failure.


    I really hope that nobody ever comes to you for advice about mental health issues. Your opinion about the efficacy of therapy is wrong and dangerous.

  • rexwhitmer ELFRIDA, AZ
    Dec. 18, 2017 2:40 p.m.

    There is no such animal as a reformed druggie. He or she may stay off for a time, but with the right occurrence, he or she will break and go back to old habits! Alcohol is a lighter drug, but AA can tell you that once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic! The reoccurrence is always just around the corner! So called "hard" drug users will never be completely cured, and if he or she doesn't know it, they will never be cured! My father quit smoking at age forty five. Twenty years later discussing it with him he told me that when he was in a room where others were smoking, he felt like begging for a cigarette! There is no cure. You must have some sort of program to help you overcome when resistance becomes weak! And you MUST admit your addiction and plan for it's reoccurrence.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 2:01 p.m.

    The problem with drug courts is they force the offender to go to therapy. The government has bought into the psychologist/parasites false claim that they can cure any problem by "talking about your feelings." What a load of nonsense, to use a G rated term. Those parasite/therapists have about a 3% success rate, yet the courts insist on forcing these people to waste their time & money, and my tax dollar, on this never-ending sharing of feelings at about $150 an hour. What a scam that is.

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 1:14 p.m.

    This is just more proof of the abysmal failure of the war on drugs. while reducing the penalties to misdemeanors, Legitimate doctors are pressured not to prescribe much needed narcotics to patients who truly need pain relief. Yet a schedule 1 narcotic (pot) is made legal in half the states. this is absurd. Not mentioned is the drug dealers. Are they ever arrested? Are they charged with misdemeanors as well.???

  • Harrison Bergeron Holladay , UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 8:47 a.m.

    @ samhill

    Just another in a long paraded of unintended consequence when liberal/progressive ideas are actually put into practice.

    The same thing would happen if we eliminated the death penalty. Nobody would ever plead out for life in prison.

  • whatsup1 Kekaha, HI
    Dec. 18, 2017 7:29 a.m.

    134,000 need treatment but only enough resources for 15,000. We are losing the war on drugs. This article seemed directed at opiods, what about Crystal meth or designer drugs. What do we go to surrender?

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 18, 2017 7:01 a.m.

    "But what few policymakers saw coming was that by removing the threat of a felony conviction and a long stint in jail, the initiative inadvertently reduced the incentive for offenders to choose to participate in drug court."

    Gosh! Who could possibly be blamed for supposing that reducing the penalty would result in fewer people accepting the alternative of a bothersome "drug court"??

  • Sailor376 Oakland, MI
    Dec. 18, 2017 6:15 a.m.

    Ah now,, wait a moment,,, The stats that I don't see here are the success rates ,, both before, and after.
    450 before 300 after the law change. But of those 450 did you have 200 long term successes? Vs after do you have of the 300 perhaps 210 successes? Success would be someone who has stayed clean, re-entered society. The felony may be an incentive to be in the program,, but how many of those are sincere? How many just ducking a longer sentence?

    My thought would then be that the people who are motivated to seek help are the same in either group, the 150 difference are just the people ducking the longer sentence and are re-offending soon after. Which says,,,,, the people to welcome into the group are not the multiply offending people,, but rather those who have never offended. Those who truly want to scrape off this bad behavior.

    Open the doors to the voluntary admittance addict who wants to get clean. Turn the 210 into 310.