The crazy, altRight wing of the GOP brought this on themselves. Last night the
Tide turned against Populist nonsense driven by Bannon, Hannity, FoxNews et al.
The shape of things to come.Note that 18-30 year old voters voted
for Jones almost 3:1, minorities 4:1. The GOP is losing the groups that are the
future and fastest growing, by their own hypocrisy. #TrumpNeverMoore
@Yorkshire“An unwanted Democrat running.An unwanted
Republican running.”Of course that’s assuming it from a
republican point of view but still accurate nonetheless.“If
there had been a wonderful and moral Republican running in Alabama, this would
have been absolutely no contest.”Or at the very least, the GOP
would’ve had a better chance. I don’t know if Doug would’ve
still won or not, but at least there would’ve been more incentive to
consider the GOP side.
Hatch lucked out on this one. Now he doesn’t have to explain his earlier
support of an accused child molester to aid his beloved party. However, if he
joins in with the party leaders and refuses to seat Jones until after the tax
vote, that may be the last straw for Utah voters as they say “goodbye
@Yorkshire: "If there had been a wonderful and moral Republican running in
Alabama, this would have been absolutely no contest."There was a
wonderful and moral Democrat running, a man with a strong law and order record
from his years as a prosecutor, a strong record of upholding the Constitution, a
man known for working with all people in the community, a man active in his
church. And he won.
@Yorkshire - Logan, UT -- If there had been a wonderful and moral
Republican running in Alabama, this would have been absolutely no contest.---There was a candidate that may have had greater support from
the rank and file GOP membership, Luther Strange.The Republicans who
voted in the primaries chose Moore.Strange supported such GOP
favored goals of state supported discrimination in regard to sexual orientation,
as well as limiting or eliminating social support for the needed, and temporary
Senator, will probably vote for the Wealthy Relief Tax Initiative.And he probably could have mustered a Republican vote to win the day.This is what we on the so called Left have been pointing out. If the Bannon
and Co. or Trump and Co. are so extreme to the rank and file Republicans, they
sure are not showing it by who they vote for in the various elections since
@ YorkshireJones wasn't an unwanted candidate by Dems and other
liberals. He had strong support among them.
The people of Alabama have spoken, and I see a future senator that is going to
be reaching-across-the-aisle, as Alabama “test drives” him for the
next 2 years. I hope he serves the Nation, and his State well.Wonder
if “someone” will create a rigged (not) election conspiracy. LOL.
I think the true issue -- and real shame here--- is the very same as it was in
the Presidential Election.Only 2 choices.An unwanted
Democrat running.An unwanted Republican running.If there had
been a wonderful and moral Republican running in Alabama, this would have been
absolutely no contest.
I applaud the relatively few Republicans of Alabama who had the integrity to do
the right thing in this case instead of the masses who, in spite of overwhelming
accusations that appeared credible, voted the party ticket. Congratulations!
Re: Editorial decisions on the part of Deseret News.Why would one
have a picture of the loser in a hotly contested race, rather than the
winner.One would think we, the reading public, have seen enough of
Moore to last a lifetime, and would perhaps like to have an image of the winner
to wrap up the coverage.
@Egyptian origins --Character assassination has become the ruling
method of Trump and Co. and by extension the GOP.We have heard ad
infinitum about 'killer' Hillary, or 'where's the
emails', and this after the FBI and any number of Congressional
investigations into the Clintons, with not one charge being brought to court.And of course one would like candidate to speak to the issues not the
'man' or 'woman'... but if the Republicans did present their
plan for the future, they'd have to publicize how they are going to give
tax bonuses to the wealthy, eliminate those who are need from social support
rolls, and promote discriminatory practices, often under the banner of
'religious freedom'.With these generally unacceptable
goals, it is much easier to engage in a character assassination campaign than
actually present to the voters the real GOP agenda, which is more wealth to the
wealthy, less support to those in need, and a kick in the teeth for those in the
Joyfully - American Fork, UTDec. 12, 2017 10:01 p.m.Hardly a
"stunning upset." He won by 1.1%, with only about 25% voter turnout. ====== You are right, Jones won by a mere 1.1%Hardly a
blow out by the numbers, but considering Alabama is 70+% Republican and
has not voted for a Democrat is 60 years -- yes, this is quite extraordinary.BTW -- a truly "stunning upset" is like when Hillary Clinton won
by even more at 2.1+% of the vote and Donald Trump still managed to be
President. America and the World - utterly stunned and upset!
@Gary O... I am soooo glad I was wrong. You can't even imagine.Two reasons. It shows that by a narrow margin, decency won the day. Second,
that there are Republicans that will vote conscience over party.... and that is
an amazingly positive thing. Trump did support the other guy
first.... not sure how Moore even won a spot on the ticket. But I am most
pleased that this was a rebuke of Bannonism, and the crowd that believes such
nastiness is excusable. Seems enough Republicans finally stood up to that
crowd.Go Alabama.@Anti -your segregationist comments....
most southern democrats of that time were far more conservative than even you.
Let's not play games with titles... they meant little at that time.
Southerners in general were against equal rights - republican and
democrat....... and don't forget..... a good part of Utah did and still
does associate themselves with "Dixie". That rock your throwing at the
south can come boomeranging right back to Utah, which was a Slave state, and
many with those attitudes still persist in this fine state.
perhaps most surprising thing about the jones ' victory was that it was
against a candidate that mainstream media behemoth fox news supported 24/7.
moore obviously was a very flawed candidate.much made about trump
supporting moore, but it should be noted that trump actually supported the
person moore beat in the gop primary. not sure this election was a reflection
on trump at all, for that reason. trump was going to support the gop candidate
in the end, no matter who it was.
After congratulations and a sigh of relief (I did not predict this), let me
highlight something for libs that should be obvious now but may take some
calling out. It should be obvious now that candidates with
historical baggage, deserved or not (my opinion Hillary Clinton), are going to
have a difficult time in this environment. It's time to honor,
thank, and say a transitional goodbye to old leadership. Nancy, Chuck, Joe,
Hillary, Bill etc. The visceral baggage is just too great, and the
calcification /hardening of policy approaches too extreme. It's time for someone on the left who can actually speak a traditional
workers language, understanding the extreme danger of wealth inequality and at
the same time know workers want work, and the challenges of that in todays
economy. Someone who can do that and still vehemently pursue the
civil and moral rights of all our citizens. Celebrate today, but
don't be fooled by the opportunity. It won't last long.
@Joyfully: "Hardly a "stunning upset." He won by 1.1%, with only
about 25% voter turnout."Alabama hasn't elected a Democrat
Senator for a quarter of a century. Trump won Alabama by 62%. Black turn-out was very high - partly because of Senator Jones'
history of prosecuting Klansmen, but primarily because of concerted effort to
get out the vote. GOTV had official opposition with voting locations
in black neighborhoods closed or moved at the last minute, voter purges in black
precincts, inadequate number of machines in black precincts causing long waits,
among other games. The NAACP examined old - and not effective -
GOTV efforts and developed new approaches thatare highly effective, and
coordinated with local groups with stunning results. Considering
Alabama's history and recently stepped up efforts to disenfranchise people
of color, this was a historic win and huge game-changer going into 2018. The Women's March protests resulted in renewed focus and energy,
flipping the Virginia House of Delegates and other seats in 2017. This is the next step. We will save our Constitutional Republic from the
right-wing theocratic political machine serving the Oligarchy.
This is the first bit of optimism I have felt since Trump's election (not
getting carried away though). With Jones' victory it will be a little
harder for the Republicans to trash my social security and medicare!
By not following the Constitution we are now in the greatest crisis this nation
has ever faced. Our government allows public opinion to decide criminal guilt or
innocence of electoral candidates rather than the required speedy Trial by Jury
of Peers process. We as a nation allow accusations to fly unchecked without
pursuit in the Justice Courts. Lives and reputations are destroyed without ever
really knowing the truth. This new Judicial Process is not just dividing our
Nation but is the main threat to our Nation collapsing. And guess what? This
process is Democracy by definition. We are supposed to be a Republic not a
Democracy and what is happening in our Elections is why we need to be a
Republic. Congratulations to Jones for winning but a Republic is not supposed to
have Parties in the first place. Alabama was forced to choose the Democrat to
keep the Republican out and it was still close. Will Moore's accusers still
pursue their accusations in the Courts? Will we ever learn the truth of
Moore's guilt or innocence to know if Alabama made the right choice? Will
we still have a Nation left?
The Roy Moore fiasco will forever stain Alabama, Donald Trump and the Republican
Party in Washington DC. They can't escape their initial condemnation and
their ultimate surrender and support all done in the name of "party".
Taxpayers should forever mark and beware of all those slick operatives, ie:
Mitch Mc Connell and Paul Ryan, who honored their political party before
truth and morality . Especially those operatives here in Utah . The Southern
Evangelicals willingly abandoned lost their innocence and spiritual high ground
in a bold and deplorable way by their undying support for Roy Moore. They will
never again be able to raise the morality standard for their issues. The
evangelicals will now be known for their adoration of the Party above and beyond
their moral compass.T This is what you get when you mix religion with politics.
In the end politics will comtaminate all that dare to mingle. Faith is the
bastion of religious freedom. Truth should be the bastion of the politics in a
Christian country. Prevarication , avarice and wealth are the norm in politics
and business and will be the doom of our capitalistic society.
When Democrats win an election: "It's stunning rebuke of the president
himself. It surely clears the path to taking back Congress and the White House.
It's the end of the GOP as we know it".When Democrats lose
an election: "We wuz robbed!!!"
Wow, wow, wow, what a fantastic Christmas present to the nation.However,
this is only a small step in regaining sanity, decency and stability in our
country.Thank you Alabama!!
Decency won. And that necessarily means that Trump and Bannon lost.Thank you, Alabama. I knew we still had it in us.
Can someone tell Moore that no mo(o)re belly aching about loosing and to please
The people have spoken. Alabama is not the same place Dr. King spoke of so many
years ago. emb
@Anti Bush-Obama"Once a segregationist state always a
segregationist state. Geroge Wallace would be proud because his party
won."Having become a born-again Christian in the 70's,
admitting that his segregationist policies were wrong, publicly asking
forgiveness from the African American community, and taking action to appoint a
record number of blacks to state positions during his last term as Governor, I
suspect he would be mighty proud of what happened in Alabama today.
Now that Sen Jones is the new Senator from Alabama, it is time for him to take
his place in Washington.Mitch McConnell has vowed not to seat Sen Jones
until after the "Tax Scam" Vote.Now is the Time for Utah's
Sen Hatch to grow a Conscience and put pressure on Sen McConnell to do his
job.Luther Strange is no Longer the Temp Senator from Alabama,Welcome to the U.S. Senate Doug Jones.
My logic says we won’t hear another peep out moores accusers. They will
now fade into oblivion.
Doug Jones made sure the last of the murderers of Addie Mae Collins, Cynthia
Wesley, Carole Robertson and Carol Denise McNair at the 16th Street Baptist
Church faced justice. Black voters were instrumental in sending him
to the US Senate tonight. Time for all of us true patriot Americans
to mobilize and do the same - vote the racists and bigots and religious
wing-nuts out.Thank you Senator Jones, and thank you great Americans
who voted for a good man tonight.
Congrats Senator Jones! Thank you to a true American Sen. Shelby, for standing
up for decency. I truly did not see this coming. I thought that no matter how
flawed Roy Moore was, Alabama would not elect Doug Jones or any Democrat. This
is only a first round knockdown in what will be a long hard fight to win back
decency and common sense for our nation. But I’m feeling something tonight
that I haven’t felt in many months—-namely, less horrified.
Hardly a "stunning upset." He won by 1.1%, with only about 25% voter
turnout. Many GOP stayed home, as I would have done. In 2 years, Alabama will
no doubt choose a conservative candidate again.
I disagree with the choice some people made to vote for Roy Moore because he has
been removed as a judge twice, doesn't understand the constitution, and is
by definition a bigot.That doesn't mean it is okay to make fun
of the people of Alabama. That is rude and uncalled for. I loved living in the
south and the opportunity to get to know the generous, good people and the
culture. We need to respect everyone.
I'll gladly take the win. The sad part is that 48% of Alabamian's
voted for Moore and his sketchy stalker past.
Once a segregationist state always a segregationist state. Geroge Wallace would
be proud because his party won.
Supporters of Trump should realize its the man himself holding him back from
accomplishing his agenda. He is who he’s always been. Listen to the
Howard Stern tapes, watch the Billy Bush video or just objectively listen to his
current, rude, crude comments. He does not represent the America our parents
worked so hard to give us.
Mitt suggested early on that the RNC should step away from Roy Moore and that he
should step down.Donald Trump played politics and went all in on
Moore. So instead of taking the high ground he went low and damaged the
Republican Party even more.Romney was right on Russia. He was right
on Trump. And he was right on Moore.Of course Moore still won a
higher percent of the popular vote than Trump. But in Alabama that makes you the
loser.2018 is not going to be good for Republicans thanks to Trump.
Sad year to be a true conservative. Unless Romney takes Utah and then starts to
shake things up in DC.
It is a positive outcome, for sure. Sad it's so close; accused child
stalker should be more of a detriment than so called values voters make it.
You don't prey on young teenage girls and then quote God and scripture in
your election loss. Have Republicans not figured out people in general are fed
up with that cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy?
Serves the GOP right for trying to elect a pervert to the senate. Seriously
guys. Next time you nominate someone, let’s see you actually use someone
who actually has integrity.
This vote shows that the United States is a country where character still counts
for the majority of people. Alabama chose country over party and I'm
grateful and relieved. And kudos to President Trump for a gracious
tweet to Doug Jones. Tomorrow will be another day of tweeting in his usual
style, but for today I'm going to enjoy it.
It would seem that the Republican Party will still be burdened with the image of
President Trump even without Moore. Moore's negative issues will not be
going away anytime soon. President Trump will just have inherited them to carry
the same issues into next year's Congressional elections.
Dreams do come true! Congratulations to the people of Alabama and
Moore, Trump, Bannon and their cynical enablers in the GOP have been weighed on
the scales and found wanting.
Doug Jones for President! Make America reasonable again.
Taking back America! Is a beautiful thing!The haters are in trouble
The voters of Alabama have spoken. I hope they are pleased with the results.I hope this seat isn't the deciding vote in being able to get
another originalist on the court, but instead having to settle for a
How Sweet It Is! God Bless Doug Jones.
@thid Maybe you should read my post again. I am well aware of how the
elctorial college works and my point remains the unchanged. The elctorial
college is fundentallty flawed. It gives a disperportjional weight to the votes
of people in low population states. Btw how you liking the Jones
I have hope, again, for our country, for our Republic, for our people, for our
families. The mid-terms will be epic.
@Barker, @Vanceone, @Worf, @Cactus Pete, @Rifleman, @Richards, @No Names, Etc.
Good evening fellow posters. In the deepest, most ruby red of states
the American people have clearly said “no more” to Trump and his
enabling faction! Have a wonderful rest of your evening. Happy Holidays!
Thank you Alabama for using your common sense and making a case for decency and
a high moral standard for our elected officials.Setting the standard
for the rest of us.
I was hoping he'd win and then immediately resign. Now we are even worse
Thank You Citizens of Alabama!
Who's the poster here that loves to quote Jackie Gleason? "How Sweet It
Is"Yes, yes it is. A good first step in correcting our country's
A stunning victory for Doug Jones but more importantly, a victory for integrity,
dignity, and character!What a humiliating defeat for Trump and Steve
Bannon. The 2018 Democratic tidal wave has now started and the velocity is
building. All the enablers who propped up Roy Moore need to take a
serious look in a mirror. If you do, civilized society will probably welcome you
The low information, enabling, non college educated, alt-right extremists will
unfortunately continue on attempting to defend the indefensible, while hiding
behind the guise of God, family values and religion. What a complete sham! You
all have the unmitigated gall to defend a clear child predator! Defend militants
which took up arms on federal land and vote for man which clearly has no moral
compass in the least! Therefore let us all rejoice that a child predator will
likely win and then swiftly be removed once an ethics investigation occurs. Let
us rejoice in the comparison of “murdering children to marrying
homosexuals”. (How repulsive!) Let us all rejoice regarding the daily
tweets sent out from the Supreme Leader demeaning women with ongoing misogyny.
Let us all rejoice at his mocking of the disabled. Let us all rejoice as he now
faces his own accusations (which he has previously admitted). Let us all rejoice
at his embarrassing approval ratings of 32% which are declining hourly! After
all we’ll scream “fake news” in order to justify the ongoing
embarrassment. Let us all rejoice because the African American is no longer
President. Pathetic! Country before party comrades!
Democrats recently held a "Scream at the sky" day. Where they got
together and, well, screamed at the sky. It rained on them in response, as I
recall.And Hutterite says they are the party of sanity?
@Vanceone[You have to love the leftists here: "At the end of the day,
morals and integrity count! That's why you have to vote Democrat..."How much lightning are you guys dodging for that blatant lie?]Not as much as Trump does on an average day ending in y.
Moore will win as he should.1-Politically timed allegations are not
proof. This conduct is from 40 years ago but only comes to light in the very
narrow window between Moore winning the Primary and holding the general
election? That is just too convenient not to be deliberate partisanship on the
part of the media.2-Both sides are play games. The Democrats and
their media allies protect Sen. Menendez who is actually under federal
indictment because his resignation would let GOP Governor Christe replace him
with a Republican. It is only fair that the GOP not hand over a GOP-safe seat
to a Democrat.3-The Democrats didn't even try to run a credible
candidate here. Doug Jones in pro-abortion, anti-gun, and has insulted his
State and constituents as "an embarrassment".After Moore is
elected, the Senate Ethics Committee ought to commence a full investigation and
determine whether Moore even violated any laws or otherwise sexually harassed or
assaulted anyone. Expel him if necessary. And hold another election where the
Republican candidate is likely to win.Sad game we are all in right
now. But raw power is all that matters because we are right and the other side
@Common Sense GuyYour comment...Just a question, because
it hasn't been discussed in the media. How common was it for men to date
younger women in Rural Alabama 40 years ago? I am not defending any actions. It
is just a question. I just wonder why it has not been discussed.My
response..."Dating" younger women...I guess you
would have to define "dating".@Patsy...Your
comment addressed abortion and homosexuality.My response...Ronald Reagan is a Republican Icon.Ronald Reagan signed into law
an abortion bill that lead to the deaths of over 2,000,000 babies.Ronald Reagan had a son who is gay.Following the
terminology/logic of your comment... Voting for a Godless Ronald
Reagan was out of the question.Yet... millions of Republicans voted
for a Godless Ronald Reagan.Millions more define their politics by
invoking the name of a Godless Ronald Reagan.
We could sure use a democrat in there. They're the sane voice in this race,
and the nation. The politics of fear and division are getting real tired. And
Moore, with all his 'my values trump your rights' approach, is a
despicable person even before you address the sex assault issues.
IMHO -- I'd like to see Doug Jones win.However, I will be
even happier if Roy Moore wins.What better way to drag down 50 - 100
Republicans, than having an alleged pedophile in the Senate and a sexist,
misogynist President under his own sexual abuse investigations at the top of
their ticket going into the mid-term elections next year....
You have to love the leftists here: "At the end of the day, morals and
integrity count! That's why you have to vote Democrat..." How much lightning are you guys dodging for that blatant lie? Morals and
integrity and Democrats are like oil and water, cats and dogs, positive and
negative. They only exist when there's a negative in the same sentence.
After all, this is the party that lauds Ted Kennedy as a hero; that
ran Bill Clinton and then his rapist defending wife; the party of Al Franken and
Bob Menendez. And you leftists think you can claim morality and integrity?
Pah-leeze! The party of Matt Lauer and Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polanski has
zero room to talk about integrity and morality. And indeed, you
haven't. How many times have we heard the left scream about "Christian
theocracy!!" every time someone says politicians should be moral? The left
tells Republicans they are Christian fundamentalists all the time. And now you
claim you are the party of morality? Yeah, right. Unless you mean the morals of
Moloch and Baal, of Sodom and Gomorrah? Ok, I'll buy that.
@GaryO - Virginia Beach, VA"Gary says Jones will win . . . By 12
points."There was a time when Mrs. Bill Clinton wondered aloud why she
wasn't ahead 50 points. Apparently the liberals are finding
out that their efforts to smear Mr. Moore didn't play out the way
they'd hoped.I can understand your frustration.
The same "Basket of deplorables", as Hillary Clinton refers to them,
that voted for President Trump will help elect Roy Moore. At the end of the day
the liberals will be beside themselves with frustration that the people in
Alabama won't buy what they are trying to sell.
Tolstoy: Surely you know Presidents are not elected by popular vote but by
electoral college! What that election meant is that voters in 60% of the states
didn't really vote FOR Donald Trump, the voted AGAINST liberalism! No
matter who was on the opposite side of the ballot, the election results would
have been the same! In other words, Donald Trump is POTUS today because
liberalism was rejected in 30 out of the 50 states! This concludes the lesson
Appropriate picture for sure
@patriot "Voting for a godless , Socialist Democrat is out of the question
"This is the man who prosecuted the murderers of 4 little girls
in a church. Shame on you!
Just a question, because it hasn't been discussed in the media. How common
was it for men to date younger women in Rural Alabama 40 years ago? I am not
defending any actions. It is just a question. I just wonder why it has not been
Judge Roy Moore graduated from West Point and then went on into the service,
served in Vietnam and then came back and was in law school. All of the ladies,
or many of the ladies that he possibly could have married were not available
then, they were already married, maybe, somewhere. So he looked in a different
direction and always with the [permission of the] parents of younger ladies. By
the way, the lady he's married to now, Ms. Kayla, was a younger woman,"
Benham said on WAPI 99.5 FM Monday evening. “He did that because there is
something about a purity of a young woman, there is something that is good,
that's true, that's straight and he looked for that. -- Flip Benham"there is something about a purity of a young woman," sounds
just like Warren Jeffs, "keeping sweet" language.Then again
the GOP supported Hastert, and our own Hot Tubbing leader, who got a standing
ovation.Sorry Patriot, yelling "baby killers" doesn't
justify you and yours supporting pedephiles.
Hey Rifleman -Re: "Yes, Utah Girl, these are the "Basket Of
Deplorables" Hillary Clinton was referring to . . . "Not the
whole basket, just part of it.Hey Utah Blue Devil -Re:
"People for the most part will vote party line..... regardless. Moore will
win. "I'm not so sure about that. But then again, I'm
a glass-half-full kind of guy.I say Jones will win . . . By 12
points.Do you see what faith of I have in the better instincts of
"character will always win the day." I wish I shared your optimism Utah
Chronicle Girl but given last year election and the great likelihood Moore will
win todays election I do not see much hope for the future of people of Character
or reason returning to office anytime soon. @thidonce again
ignoring the fact that the majority of Americans actually voted against Trump
and focusing on the fact that low population states voted for Trump does not
really speak to a self correction as much as a problem with our election system
were a vote in a states like WY holds so much more weight then a vote in a high
population states like NY.
what's worse -- murdering children and marrying homosexuals (both sins) OR
swallowing hard to vote for someone who "may" have done bad things to
under age women? The Moore alligations are sketchy it seems especially with
this latest revelation that the year book was fabricated by the woman herself.
To me its really simple. Voting for a godless , Socialist Democrat is out of the
question if you are a Christian so Moore is the only choice. I suspect if he is
elected he will undergo a full senate investigation into the alligations as he
should. If Chirstians stay home they are voting for the Democrat in effect.
@ Rifleman"Are you suggesting that they aren't smart enough
to vote?"Not suggesting that at all. There will be a time very
soon when the good people of Green Pea, Alabama realize it will take more to get
Republican candidates elected than quoting Bible verses and waving a gun around.
Character means something. Despite projection and other assorted Republican
diversionary tricks, character will always win the day.
RiflemanAre you looking to get into internet fights? A
commenter made a reference to so oddly named small towns in Alabama whose
citizenry will stand by former Judge Moore till the cows come home. We all know
that. It's not exactly a big secret that many rural residents in Alabama
are diehards for Moore, the fundamentalist Christian.And somehow you
turn that self evident fact into a "but Hillary!" comment. Why turn a
fact into a fight? Do the people on the Right spend all day looking for slights
and insults? (Hint: look to the presidential example for the right answer)
Is it a coincidence or not that Alabama has one of the lowest ratings of
education and literacy levels in their citizens out of all our states -- second
from the bottom. Only Mississippi scores lower.Perhaps that might
help explain support for moore.
@Utah Girl Chronicles - Eagle Mountain, UT says: "the state has hundreds of
isolated hamlets with names like "Green Pea" and "Red
Scab"."Yes, Utah Girl, these are the "Basket Of
Deplorables" Hillary Clinton was referring to. Are you suggesting that they
aren't smart enough to vote?
UtahBlueDevil - I rarely agree with you but I thank you for your excellent and
accurate comment! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
People for the most part will vote party line..... regardless. Moore will win.
Tired of the drama around this. Republicans will give him the benefit of
doubt and call the women liars. Democrats will doubt him for ever and consider
him a man of low morals - or at least used to be.The funny things
we've seen in the past is those that profess and pound the pulpits the
loudest, often are those that have the most to hide as well. Not always....
but it is not totally unusual either. The louder the protestations - the more
hidden problems there are.Lets hope for all these allegation are not
We need to realize while Alabama has progressive-minded voters in urban areas,
the state has hundreds of isolated hamlets with names like "Green Pea"
and "Red Scab". Those rural voters are indignant that anyone would even
challenge Roy Moore.If he is elected, it's not hard to envision
Senate leadership instructing Roy Moore to hide out in the Senate coatroom until
the moment his vote is needed and whatever you do, don't be talking into
any media microphones.In addition, consider legally changing your
name to something less divisive and incendiary, some like .... "Doug
@Cactus PeteA narrow win in a state the GOP normally wins by 20+ points
while electing an embarrassment that has many in the GOP refusing to seat him...
that's your idea of a momentum boost?
one old man - Ogden, UTUnfortunately you will be even more nauseated
when you see the election results. The majority of the people in Alabama
didn't by the Democrat's smear campaign which was designed to
discredit President Trump. This will have momentum as the 2018 election cycle
gets underway.The voters in Alabama just weren't buying what
the Democrats were trying to sell.
"voters in 2018 will make the self-correction." That election
actually already happened in the last national election when 30 out of 50 states
(60%) rejected liberalism! 2018 will be more of the same!
Moore has been removed from being a judge twice for refusing to follow the
constitution. We can hope that the people of Alabama will make the
reasonable choice but this is the state who elected George Wallace so I dont
have much hope...or respect for the state.
This is absolutely nauseating. The trouble is that the GOP itself is doing
nothing to clean its own pig pen.Make America Sane (and Safe) Again
Suburban moms may vote for Doug Jones, as the pundits say, but the reality is
Alabama is a very rural, anti-abortion state. Roy Moore not campaigning very
much shows the arrogance Republicans relate with. In the end however, voters in
2018 will make the self-correction.