'Girls can do unimaginable things:' Conference inspires Utah girls to pursue STEM careers

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  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    Nov. 13, 2017 4:17 p.m.

    Another great post from FelisConcolor, especially the following quote,

    "And when a boy does get to school he has fewer resources available to him than girls." ...at the lower levels, high school and below.

    And at the totally politically correct university up North....

    " At Weber State, for example, there are all sorts of counseling and support centers for women, minorities, LGBT, disabled students, etc., but not a single one exclusively for men."

    This is shameful and needs investigation by the Utah Dept of Education and the State Attorney General.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    Nov. 13, 2017 4:46 a.m.

    Why doesn't the DesNews, among all publications in the nation, ever cover the story that not only is the US, but every nation with an advanced economy (Israel being the sole exception), are having babies at a sub replacement rate?

    This fact is the major contributor, IMO, to the ongoing economic troubles most in the world are still experiencing. It is surely to be the source, the major source of permanent economic depression in the world. This problem by itself may yet destroy the world's civilizations!

    This fact far outweighs the idea of forever pushing girls & young women to have careers outside of the home. Statistics show that colleges have enrollments & graduation rates of 3 to 2 of females vs males. This should be a subject of grave concern to those who believe that it is primarily the man's role in a family to provide for it!

    Why isn't anyone promoting the idea of persuading young women to consider a career as mothers & housewives, as was done for millennia, when we had babies born at surplus birth rate levels?

    The saying, "No other success can compensate for failure in the home", seems to fall upon deaf ears, even among those who should be shouting it loudly & long!

  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 6:30 p.m.

    A pair of factoids from this article illuminates a major flaw in the spin put on the "liberal facts" put forth to achieve the major legislative accomplishment of Obama, ObamaCare.

    The facts as compared in the article are, "The difference is money. Clearly. Utah spends $6,500 per student per year. Massachusetts spends over $15,000."

    This huge spending supremacy in Mass is mirrored in the fact that Mass. has the highest average educational achievement in the nation.

    Mass also has had many other advantages even in the Northeast that sets it apart there and even more so compared to the fly-over states.

    Yet, an unquestioned foundational element of Obama-Care was that it was applicable even in republican states, essentially everywhere in America, because it was like 'Romney-Care' in Mass.

    Actually, as this educational data illustrates, Mass. is in so many ways an outlier, that 'Romney-Care' could not and cannot be considered a useful foundation for a national healthcare system.

  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 6:13 p.m.

    Understand that this female focus in a branch of basic education has been ongoing for over two decades. I remember my son being permitted to accompany a few of these girl-focused endeavors, on a few occasions more than 20 years ago. There was nothing remotely like this program to help boys understand STEM

    This is a violation of the civil rights of boys and young men that requires federal government intervention. That is within the intent of federal civil rights legislation.

    Either equalize boy's access to STEM or face lawsuits!

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 5:29 p.m.

    It's kind of like hospitals that have a Women's Center...but do they have Men's Center? Rarely. There are courses and majors on college campuses for Women's Studies. Any for men? Most likely NO.

    I agree with FelisConcolor above. The boys are made to feel that they don't matter but the girls surely do. No special programs tailored just to boys where they can be just boys. Scouting is being altered from the traditional "boys" groups.

    Nothing for boys...just send them home to play video games in the basement where their brains will be permanently altered/wired for violence, etc.

    Why do more women "need" to be in STEM and especially in engineering? Why does there have to be equal amounts of men and women in every occupation and professional endeavor. Because they marry (if they marry) lazy men who can't provide for them or children? This will be more and more the case as education, run especially in post-high school institutions, is controlled by liberals and especially liberal women. It's an obsession with being "equal" while men and women are so very different from each other.

  • Diligent Dave Logan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 4:52 p.m.

    To me it is so disheartening to see attempts made why all kinds of entities, including the lights of the Deseret News, pushing girls towards careers outside the home.

    As a father of 7 daughters & 2 sons, I think I know thing or two about this.

    Of my 7 daughters, we have college degrees. But neither of my sons have college degrees yet, and one of them is our oldest child.

    My daughters are no less capable than my sons. Nor my sons than my daughters. But schools and newspapers and Society at large is more determined that more women need to not only get colors degrees, but get the ones that boys and men have traditionally gotten.

    I have a sister who has a mining engineering degree and an MBA. She's smart. And the sister between her and I is also smart, but has no college degree. The younger one has never married. The other one has 7 children.

    Most people don't realize that the world is having children at sub-replacement rates. I've never seen the Deseret News cover this important news story. In fact, the US has not had a surplus birth rate since 1970!

  • Cactus Pete Centerville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 4:22 p.m.

    6 out of 7 female recruits and 40 out of about 1,500 male recruits failed to pass the new Marine Corps fitness standards regimen of pull-ups, ammunition-can lifts, a 3-mile run and combat maneuvers required to move on in training for combat jobs.

    There are physical differences between men and women which is why men who want to become FBI special agents have to do more than twice as many push-ups as women seeking the same job.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 3:27 p.m.

    Men and women don't always excel equally in all areas. Richard Petty, the all-time winningest driver in NASCAR said the only way Danica Patrick will ever win a NASCAR race is"if everybody else stayed home".

    That certainly doesn't mean that Danica Patrick can't excel in other areas.

  • FelisConcolor Layton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 10:22 a.m.

    "I'm sorry you feel like boys are being discriminated against. As one myself, I don't agree. "

    The fact you don't agree doesn't change reality: Boys drop out of high school at a higher rate than girls. Fewer men attend college than women, and the ones who do get to college earn fewer Bachelors' degrees, fewer Master's degrees, and fewer PhDs overall than women. These are verifiable facts, available from the US Dept. of Education.

    And when a boy does get to school he has fewer resources available to him than girls. At Weber State, for example, there are all sorts of counseling and support centers for women, minorities, LGBT, disabled students, etc., but not a single one exclusively for men.

    (Interestingly, Weber State will spare no expense when it comes to catering to non-white-male students, but they can't even muster the funds to update the map boards scattered around campus).

    The inescapable conclusion is that you don't really care if boys and young men are falling behind when it comes to getting an education, and not only do you not care, you want to destroy the one area where they do have an advantage over girls. How is that "fair"?

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 10:07 a.m.

    I think you are missing the point from Oh, Please.

    The program does not benefit from politicizing it. Identity politics is still politics, not learning.

    As for the status of women studying science, Cornell Engineering has 1,500 students. 46% of them are female. Ditto for MIT. Your narrative that women are stuck in the Elementary Ed program may be a bit out of date.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2017 7:44 a.m.

    I wonder how many of these photo op conferences take place in Singapore, Japan, Estonia, Taipei and Finland.

    If we really want to duplicate the "best practices" of those who excel at science, that's what we need to do.

    Study this formula: STEM=Grant $

  • Max Upstate, NY
    Nov. 11, 2017 9:32 p.m.

    That's great to introduce girls (and boys) to STEM careers. Everybody needs to know what their options are. BUT please don't make girls who don't take the bait and follow their dreams instead feel like losers or traitors to the "cause". Show them their options and respect their choices.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Nov. 11, 2017 8:33 p.m.

    @Oh please

    "Women get most of the college degrees in the U.S. now."

    Not in STEM fields they don't.

    I'm sorry you feel like boys are being discriminated against. As one myself, I don't agree. But if you'd like to help us feel equal, why don't you go start a program to get more boys interested in Elementary Education degrees?

  • readme Provo, UT
    Nov. 11, 2017 5:11 p.m.

    Beware, the high demand for STEM college graduates is mainly for the "E" or engineers.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    Nov. 11, 2017 3:39 p.m.

    How about "CHILDREN can do unimaginable things?" Why leave the boys out? Don't tell me that the boys have more opportunities. Women get most of the college degrees in the U.S. now.

    You're dumbing down the boys and pushing them to the background--which seems to be the agenda of the liberal women in our country. This is and will backfire for future generations.