Operation Rio Grande's 'dignity of work' phase underway

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  • Judgymcjudger Sandy, UT
    Nov. 13, 2017 1:47 p.m.

    This is a great concept and kudos for the folks out there turning ideas into actions to help this population as a whole by individualizing services based on need to help get them stabilized! It's at least something opposed to the overwhelming amount of help that some of the other people commenting on this topic are contributing. Seriously? It is a start to help assess people as individuals with individual barriers not how the general public just categorizes them as "homeless". Please stop criticizing and give it a chance. Why can't we come together as a community to help support and contribute instead of judging and airing our personal opinions that DO NOTHING FOR THIS ISSUE btw.... it takes ACTION, not words. so be about it and quit griping about it! If you have a better way, all the support in the world to MAKE IT HAPPEN! Then you have just grounds to air your opinion because at least you attempted to help with a solution!

  • Cactus Pete Centerville, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 1:19 p.m.

    Re: Egyptian origins - Salt Lake City, UT

    There are people suffering from mental illness in all stratas of our society. That doesn't mean that we should just sit by and watch the crime in the Rio Grande area go from bad to worse. Many of the decent homeless people can work and become self sufficent if only the liberals will get out of their way.

    Let's be honest. The problem was over Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski's head, and the State of Utah finally had to step in when she allowed the problem to finally spiral out of control.

  • Flying Finn Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 11:54 a.m.

    C"MON Third try screen name - Mapleton, UT

    I used my experience volunteering at Vincent de Paul Dining Hall to show that the people Egyptian origins lumps together as "being considered mentally ill" are happy to work. I can name several food chains that frequently hire people with mental disabilites.

    It is counter productive for the homeless people to sit and wait for government to make it all better for them.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:46 a.m.

    Did Finn just call me a liberal?

    As for the comment itself, I thought this program was a wide sweep to hire the homeless in the open economy, but if we are just talking about thrift stores and soup kitchens they will probably be OK.

  • Flying Finn Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 10:31 a.m.

    @Third try screen name - Mapleton, UT says: "We must assume that the homeless lack basic life skills and will need more coaching than just rehab and a job offer."

    Why are liberals always to reluctant to assume that people are totally helpless?

    Have you ever worked in the Vincent de Paul Dining Hall? I have. They employee former homeless people who do a marvellous job. Stop putting them down!

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:41 a.m.

    A job requires dependability and punctuality.

    In that spirit, I suggest that graduating seniors from the U MARRY homeless people. That way, they can provide the stability needed for this jobs program to work. The spouse could make sure they take their meds, keep them on the wagon, make sure they eat/wear socks/take a bath, and get them out the door in the morning.

    Surely the U grad can balance the checkbook and send the rent check.

    We must assume that the homeless lack basic life skills and will need more coaching than just rehab and a job offer.

  • Flying Finn Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 8:02 a.m.

    @Egyptian origins

    Why would you want to paint the homeless with a broad brush as being mentally ill?

    Federal law requires employers to give people with mental illness a fair chance to work, and many organizations offer support and counseling.

    Stop making excuses and start expecting people to discover the dignity that comes with being able to support themselves.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2017 5:53 a.m.

    Egyptian origins - Salt Lake City, UT says: "With the homeless being considered mentally ill ..."

    Homelessness isn't a mental illness. Yes there are some individuals in the homeless population that are mentally ill but to lump them all in that category is sick.

    I have a sweet neighbor with Down Syndrome. She doesn't want to be babied. She has a job and takes pride in it.

    Get A Job!!!!!

  • Egyptian origins Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2017 5:31 p.m.

    With the homeless being considered mentally ill, it makes all the sense in the world to tell them to get a job. We even have our Governor today announcing that he wants to do away with Medicaid, so that these mentally ill homeless can go without health insurance making them pay for it with their dignified part-time fast food job. Way to go Utah!

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Nov. 9, 2017 5:12 p.m.

    Given the present economic climate anyone who wants to work can get a job. Not necessarily a high paying job, but a job none the less. Those who are homeless obviously don't want the jobs available. They get by with begging or having the local do-gooders provide for them without effort on their part.

    The politicians don't understand the dynamic of reward and punishment having the effect of increasing or decreasing the problem. The local liberals and politicians have rewarded undesirable behavior (homelessness) for years and have seen the corresponding increases. This will not change as long as the current reward system is in place.

  • mightymite , 00
    Nov. 9, 2017 4:07 p.m.

    I am thinking they best prioritize law enforcement and helping the communities that are now impacted by lawlessness and homeless invasion when they scattered those in Rio Grande. So frustrating that this known repercussion of the operation is allowed to cascade across helpless communities.... And now the pols want to just have town hall meetings about this known fallout? YOU created it YOU fix it. This negligence is your accountability and responsibility to fix. Are you listening Mr. Speaker and Mrs. Mayor?

  • Flying Finn Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2017 3:26 p.m.

    Providing opportunities for people to get jobs and become self dependent is wonderful. The alternative is to provide them with welfare and free stuff without the requirement for them to put out any effort.

    Separate those who want to work from those who don't and provide the appropriate rewards.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 9, 2017 3:19 p.m.

    Great. Let's make room for them in the workforce by enforcing immigration laws.

    (I'm guessing the politicians won't like my idea.)