Curtis avoids talking about Trump in debate, but Allen, Bennett kept bringing him up

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  • Sophie 62 Spring City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2017 2:53 p.m.

    What I mean is that the author said that Bennett was the son of Jim Bennett. He was the son of Bob Bennett.

  • Sophie 62 Spring City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2017 2:41 p.m.

    First of all, it was Bob Bennett, not Jim Bennett. Anybody who thinks there are 3 Democrats here is up in the night. Mayor Curtis has aligned himself directly with Trump, even though he had the sense to not say that in the debate. That hardly makes him a Democrat. And they allowed him to get away with not answering the question about the Wall, which he has previously stated he supports.
    If Trump had not been running against Hillary, he would not have been elected in Utah. It was the Utah hatred of Hillary more than liking him that gave him the win.
    I considered Bennett more of a moderate, of the three.
    Back when Republicans were more moderate, before the Tea Party took over, they used to boldly espouse the ideas that Bennett showed here. He's not a Democrat either. Too bad so many ultra conservatives don't know a moderate when they see one. I don't think 'moderate' is a concept they recognize or understand.
    And Professor Magleby, Kathy Allen is not a Ms.. She's a doctor, and deserves the respect of being addressed by her title, which you failed to do several times.
    Overall, except for allowing the Mayor to wriggle out of answering the wall question, it was a pretty good debate.

  • citizen kelly murray, UT
    Oct. 20, 2017 9:29 a.m.

    So apparently, the safe answer is to stick with the same strategy of the past 3 presidents that has worked out so well and has now left us with a nuclear armed NK. Got it. All 3 showed gutless answers, not a one of them are qualified and show a lack of even commenting on things way over their pay scale. Not a single one of them are privy to the intelligence, not a one of them are qualified to even make a sensible comment on NK, Iran, Russia, China or any other foreign policy issue. It is not a laughing matter Allen.

  • Flying Finn Murray, UT
    Oct. 20, 2017 5:50 a.m.

    @Steve C. Warren - WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

    Sorry Steve but the majority of voters agreed that Hillary was a terrible candidate. You must be aware of how she acted (some described it as a meltdown) on election night. Her own party deserted her, and apparently the "basket of deplorables" she referred to showed up to vote for her opponent. She had no one but herself to blame for her loss.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 9:12 p.m.


    Curtis did get elected to mayor, like it or not. But for the most part, we in Provo are very happy Curtis is our mayor proving that one doesn't have to be a right-wing idealogue to be an effective leader. In fact, rarely are right-wing idealogues effective leaders...

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 6:57 p.m.

    John Curtis is in my opinion far and away the most qualified and representative of 3rd district voters. Allen is a Democratic resistance candidate with her appearances on far left MSNBC Rachel Maddow's show. Bennett is a spoiler who is unlikely to receive even 5 percent. Curtis clearly showed the most class.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 3:55 p.m.

    The Meliorist wrote: Listen. We can all agree Hillary was a terrible candidate.

    No, we don't all agree. She was well-qualified, far more honest than her pathological liar opponent, respected on the world stage, has been a faithful spouse and does not engage in vulgar behavior and language.

    I viewed her as an unexciting, even mediocre candidate. Trump was a terrible candidate. I have yet to come across a good excuse for anyone voting for Trump rather than her.

  • rexwhitmer ELFRIDA, AZ
    Oct. 19, 2017 3:47 p.m.

    Let me make this comment. Persons whom believe that Flake will win in the coming election in Arizona are NOT well informed on Arizona politics. He was elected to the Senate per his record in the House of Representatives. From the day after his swearing in, he became a prote'ge' of John McCain who wears the name tag of being a Republican but always takes the Liberal side of everything! You Utahn's had a very good representative in Chaffetez but apparently didn't appreciate it! I'm not familiar with the three candidates running for his seat, but would caution you that Hillary was truly as crooked as her husband and or Obama! Had she won, we would NOT have had thousands of Nazi's parading through our streets, but we WOULD be seeing ever more of our freedoms being sacrificed to Liberal, Socialists whom seem to believe that they and they alone know the path to happiness!

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 2:16 p.m.

    @JWB - Kaysville, UT

    Mrs. Bill Clinton was very arrogant and assumed she could ignore the people she termed the "basket of deplorables". She paid the price, and to this day is unable to accept her failure to win the presidency.

    Unless the democrats figure out what they did wrong, stop blaming President Trump, and get their act together Trump will beat them again in 2020.

  • It Begins In Utah Logan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 11:19 a.m.

    Having three choices in our elections is much better than just two. Can we do this from now on, please?

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:19 a.m.

    Are all GOP candidates in next year’s elections going to avoid the Access Hollywood Candidate that win the Presidential election with the Evangelical’s vote. How many veterans and women voted for the man without a soul nor conscience?

    It will be interesting to see if the GOP House of Representatives still sit on their hands and do nothing with this President at the helm.

    Puerto Rico is not getting support. With Utah in last position on voting for this President, he will probably give Utah the last priority in anything.

    I noticed that Senator Hatch has been sitting to the left of this President on several occasions. Senator Murkowski sat there also and derided her mercilessly.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:17 a.m.

    Old joke: Two people interviewed for a job. A recent graduate, summa cum laude, with an MBA, and CPA. An old CPA with many years of experience. Q: what is 2+2 ? Young grad. says: "2". Interviewer ; thank you; we'll get back to you. Old CPA: " what do you want it to be ?" He was hired. That pretty well describes the political situation in this country, today. Draw conclusions how you may.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:11 a.m.


    Unlike you, I watched the debate and what you say about Professor Magelby is hogwash.

  • ConservativeUtahisBest Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:09 a.m.


    And yet the democrats want to cater to the small minority of people in the US and not to the Majority of the US. The democrat party is a far cry from the famous JFK quote "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Now democrats are saying, Ask not what you can do for you country, ask what your country can do for you.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:07 a.m.

    The most important thing is that the debate highlighted the issue of healthcare quite a bit. Our broken and failing healthcare system is breaking the financial back of families, businesses and the country as a whole. Other than dealing with North Korea to avoid a nuclear conflict - there is no more important issue than America's broken healthcare system. That being the case I urge Utahns to vote for the candidate who they believe can best address the healthcare mess as it is such a huge issue! I don't care what the candidate's party is, I am most concerned about their knowledge and ability to influence the direction of healthcare.

  • DonO Draper, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 10:03 a.m.

    Bennett clearly won the debate. Curtis was as bland as fat free vanilla yogurt; but he's an "R" so he'll doubtless win the election. Allen is not ready for prime time - nervous, unsure with her answers which made her look unsure of her positions.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 9:56 a.m.

    @Kent C. DeForrest - Provo, UT

    Kent says "John Curtis is clueless about the health-care industry".

    You might be right Kent. In that case he is in lockstep with the majority of the members of congress. Our health-care in the United States is headed into the toilet.

  • Mike the Pharmacist Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 9:44 a.m.

    Watched the debate. Jim Bennett wiped the floor with both of them. Confident, poised, and direct - the only one who actually answered questions.

    It was telling that John Curtis twice passed on the chance to offer additional info, presumably on the assumption that the less he says at this point, the better. Which is probably true, as he didn't really say anything in any of the answers he gave. He's sitting on his lead and hoping nobody notices that the emperor has no clothes.

    Kathie Allen was terrible. Weirdly robotic, reading a bunch of canned nonsense. Seems like a nice enough person, I guess, but she's an awful candidate and way too far left for this district.

    Bennett has my vote, and I suspect he has the vote of many who saw just how articulate and effective he is for the first time. I think he did himself a world of good last night.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 9:43 a.m.

    The election is about a Utah congressional representative. It is not a presidential election. Deflecting issues important to Utahns in favor of linking Curtis to Donald Trump is disingenuous. That argument has no substance and reflects Allen and Bennett's desperation. As an independent, Bennett would have no influence in congress and as a freshman representative Allen will simply line up behind Nancy Pelosi. Neither would advance the best interests of the country.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 9:15 a.m.

    I didn't read the article, but I did watch the debate. Here's my review.

    John Curtis is clueless about the health-care industry. He will rubber-stamp anything the GOP leaders or Trump favor (if they can get on the same page). He is nowhere near the moderate I thought he might be. He would be a disaster in Washington.

    Jim Bennett is clearly comfortable in front of a camera. He projects very well. He would be a big improvement over Chaffetz. I suspect he will steal a lot of votes from Curtis, but not so many from Allen. If you listened carefully, you learned that he is a supply-sider, which is a real head-scratcher, but, hey, what else have the Republicans and pseudo-Republicans got? They haven't had a new economic idea for nearly 40 years, and Bennett doesn't either.

    Allen is a physician. She understand health-care very well (far better than self-proclaimed "patient" Curtis). She also has a good grasp of many other important issues and would not fall for the simplistic "solutions" of the intellectually vacant GOP. She would be a check on the dangerous course Trump has set. She gets my vote.

  • WJ_Coach West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 8:55 a.m.

    What was the smoke screen Clinton for? Enlighten us with the truth... not any of the Russian-Trump lies... we need to stop all the hatred and lies while focusing on what’s best for the MAJORITY of Americans not just a select minority... we are all on the same team

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 19, 2017 8:38 a.m.


    Can't wait to start following President Trump "blindly" all over again in 2020.

    Much better than following an Obama or a Hillary with "eyes wide open".


  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 19, 2017 8:36 a.m.

    It matters little who wins because no matter what they say and pledge to support the voters and nations interest as soon as they take office their support and loyalty shifts to their self gain and party's interest. USA needs a different political system, a third party or perhaps a parliamentary government.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 8:31 a.m.

    @Lia - Sandy, UT

    C'mon Lia. You surely must have realized by now that the American voters saw through Mrs. Bill Clinton's smoke screen. She could fool all of the democrats some of the time, and some of the democrats all the time but she couldn't fool all of the democrats all the time.

    Oct. 19, 2017 8:31 a.m.

    I am guessing in the third district Trump probably got about 70% of the vote so Bennett trashing Trump is splitting the anti-trump vote and pretty much guaranteeing a Curtis victory.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 8:18 a.m.

    Currently, The GOP is the root of all evil--

  • Mom jeans man is gone Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 7:52 a.m.

    Keep dreaming libs. Trump won you lost. Keep feeding liberal fodder and you'll continue to lose.
    lia- I know conservatives have nothing of value to offer, but just what does your merry band of liberals offer,,,,nothing. The party of weiner, clintons,schumer, pelosi, boxer, feinstein, waters, sharpton, jackson, brown and franken. very stellar first string lineup. How's the bench doing?

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Oct. 19, 2017 7:31 a.m.

    The wise candidate would ask voters how their 401Ks are doing and remind voters that they owe all that to President Trump and that candidate supports President Trump's policies! That candidate would win in a landslide!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 7:27 a.m.

    GOP candidates are not mentioning Trump because he's a disaster. Then, when they take office, they will blindly follow Trump.

  • The Meliorist Grande Cache, 00
    Oct. 19, 2017 7:01 a.m.

    Great respect for Arizona (LDS) Republican Senator Flake who has the courage to admit Trump is ruining the Republican Party.

    When even the farther right candidates like Curtis are distancing themselves as much as they can from a Republican President you have to know that he's a terrible president.

    Listen. We can all agree Hillary was a terrible candidate. But if Republicans are to be principled and honest (and save the Party) they have to admit that Trump is the worst Republican President ever and stand up to him.

    Americans and Republicans won't be bullied. If Curtis really wants to be a respected Republican he should be not just avoiding Trump, he should be standing up to him.

    Hillary, no. Trump, never ever again.

  • mgw1947 Pocatello, ID
    Oct. 19, 2017 6:59 a.m.

    I think the best advise for all three candidates in Utah Country is to listen to Elder Zwick's talk in the final session of the last General Conference. He stated clearly that sometimes "we should look (listen?) beyond what we think we see (hear?) in order to avoid becoming "A giant demolition wrecking ball." Those who will follow this advise will avoid the "spiritual short-sightedness," which seems to be a characteristic of those liberals who are too quick to criticize the POTUS.

    Oct. 19, 2017 6:49 a.m.

    Allen was robotic and brought nothing but her disapproval of all things Trump even if the question had nothing to do with him. Bennett appearwd a reasonable, work across the aisle conservative but in a time were anything short of a willingness to die charging up every conservative hill is considered a liberal he'll go unnoticed. Curtis knew all he had to do was dribble out the debate clock so he said nothing interesting and seemed bored. I blame you Jason Chafftez.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 6:43 a.m.

    At the end of the day when all the dust settles Provo Mayor John Curtis will win the seat formerly held by Jason Chaffetz. Of course Kathie Allen might pull off the win if she could get Mrs. Bill Clinton to come and campaign for her.

  • Egyptian origins Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 6:18 a.m.

    I thought they all handled themselves well, especially Kathy Allen for being her first time in politics. Her ending comment about "a Party of one gets nothing done" is correct, but what no one realizes is that a single Congressman cannot make change; they are subject to all of the other Congressmen who are a check and balance within the Legislature. That is why the Trump discussion was so vital and important, because the Executive Branch was never intended by the Constitution to have so much power vested in a single individual. It throws off the checks and balances of a Republic. Whichever candidate can withstand the bribery of the lobbiests and extortion to pass laws in the lobbiest's favor will do a fine job.

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 6:14 a.m.

    All these candidates are better than Chaffetz.

    Wasn't it a much better debate with Bennett participating? I would have no trouble voting for the Utah United candidate here. He showed himself well.

    If Curtis wants to support Trumps wall, he should be loud and proud about it, not keeping potential constituents guessing on what he plans to do.

    I thought Bennett and Allen did best in the debate. Curtis wasn't terrible but didn't come across as well as I thought he would.

  • MrWhite Sandy, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 5:56 a.m.

    The article was disappointing to me. It seems that the writer was searching for any way to discredit Mr. Curtis. This is a reoccurring problem, when I read an article I want facts not opinions, that seem to be imbedded throughout this article.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Oct. 19, 2017 5:53 a.m.

    Curtis, like most republicans, is substance-free.
    Dr. Allen is CLEARLY the best choice, which is exactly why Utah state won't elect her.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 19, 2017 12:25 a.m.

    I thought that Magleby was out of line with most of his comments. I didn't watch the debate because I had conflicts this evening but it's clear that the P.S. Prof from BYU is a left leaner (in fact, he probably is more than a "leaner")

    In my book a moderator should come across as unbiased and refrain from opinion statements before, during and after a debate that he moderates. I believe that that type of behavior increases the credibility of the guy who asks the questions.

    BTW, I wish that BYU would break the trend of only employing left wingers to staff their Political Science Departments. In would be refreshing to have a Conservative once in awhile.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Oct. 19, 2017 12:16 a.m.

    I wasn't a Trump fan last year but voted for him anyway... And, I have been pleasantly surprised by what he has done in his first 10 months in Office... More than either Obama and Bush Jr. did in their entire 8 years.

    Record Stock Market numbers, first time we have seen GDP over 3.0 in over 10 years, Having the moxie to take down ISIS , credibility with his stated "Red Lines" around the world, a Patriotism first demeanor, appointing Conservative Judges that will eventually "right" the liberal leanings of the Supremes in recent years , finally putting us on a road that will curb the run-away premium hikes we were seeing with Obama Care, A sound "pro life" position, etc., etc.

    If I were running for office in Utah I would be delighted to say I support this kind of record (albeit the far left population pockets of SLC proper wouldn't see it that way). The good part is that they are a small minority group in this state which fortunately continues to keep us on the right road.

    As for these candidates... all are too Liberal for me... I preferred Curtis's Primary Challengers... But with them gone, he will definitely get my vote... In fact he already has.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 18, 2017 10:52 p.m.

    How did Curtis get elected? Has Utah County lost all their collective marbles? Clearly, not a conservative anywhere on this ticket......they could all be representing La Raza and no one would suspect anything less! It would be in Utah's best interest that Curtis get two years a real Conservative who would support a wall can then defeat her!

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Oct. 18, 2017 10:51 p.m.


    It would be Chris Herrod, you have to get the name exact if you want your vote to count.

    Unlike you, I actually like all three candidates, they aren't idealogues, they are very successful people that are proven leaders. To me, it's nice to have a good choice to make vs. what we had in the last presidential race.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Oct. 18, 2017 10:46 p.m.

    It's obvious we have three Democrats running for the office. Curtis went from supporting the wall to amnesty and supporting the Utah compact, something less than 5,000 Utahns supported. Allen went so far as to rename it the LDS compact.

    Looks like a write in vote for Mike Herrrod for me.