What I mean is that the author said that Bennett was the son of Jim Bennett. He
was the son of Bob Bennett.
First of all, it was Bob Bennett, not Jim Bennett. Anybody who thinks there are
3 Democrats here is up in the night. Mayor Curtis has aligned himself directly
with Trump, even though he had the sense to not say that in the debate. That
hardly makes him a Democrat. And they allowed him to get away with not answering
the question about the Wall, which he has previously stated he supports.If
Trump had not been running against Hillary, he would not have been elected in
Utah. It was the Utah hatred of Hillary more than liking him that gave him the
win. I considered Bennett more of a moderate, of the three. Back
when Republicans were more moderate, before the Tea Party took over, they used
to boldly espouse the ideas that Bennett showed here. He's not a Democrat
either. Too bad so many ultra conservatives don't know a moderate when they
see one. I don't think 'moderate' is a concept they recognize or
understand. And Professor Magleby, Kathy Allen is not a Ms.. She's a
doctor, and deserves the respect of being addressed by her title, which you
failed to do several times.Overall, except for allowing the Mayor to
wriggle out of answering the wall question, it was a pretty good debate.
So apparently, the safe answer is to stick with the same strategy of the past 3
presidents that has worked out so well and has now left us with a nuclear armed
NK. Got it. All 3 showed gutless answers, not a one of them are qualified and
show a lack of even commenting on things way over their pay scale. Not a single
one of them are privy to the intelligence, not a one of them are qualified to
even make a sensible comment on NK, Iran, Russia, China or any other foreign
policy issue. It is not a laughing matter Allen.
@Steve C. Warren - WEST VALLEY CITY, UTSorry Steve but the majority
of voters agreed that Hillary was a terrible candidate. You must be aware of
how she acted (some described it as a meltdown) on election night. Her own
party deserted her, and apparently the "basket of deplorables" she
referred to showed up to vote for her opponent. She had no one but herself to
blame for her loss.
Truth:Curtis did get elected to mayor, like it or not. But for the
most part, we in Provo are very happy Curtis is our mayor proving that one
doesn't have to be a right-wing idealogue to be an effective leader. In
fact, rarely are right-wing idealogues effective leaders...
John Curtis is in my opinion far and away the most qualified and representative
of 3rd district voters. Allen is a Democratic resistance candidate with her
appearances on far left MSNBC Rachel Maddow's show. Bennett is a spoiler
who is unlikely to receive even 5 percent. Curtis clearly showed the most class.
The Meliorist wrote: Listen. We can all agree Hillary was a terrible candidate.
No, we don't all agree. She was well-qualified, far more
honest than her pathological liar opponent, respected on the world stage, has
been a faithful spouse and does not engage in vulgar behavior and language. I viewed her as an unexciting, even mediocre candidate. Trump was a
terrible candidate. I have yet to come across a good excuse for anyone voting
for Trump rather than her.
Let me make this comment. Persons whom believe that Flake will win in the
coming election in Arizona are NOT well informed on Arizona politics. He was
elected to the Senate per his record in the House of Representatives. From the
day after his swearing in, he became a prote'ge' of John McCain who
wears the name tag of being a Republican but always takes the Liberal side of
everything! You Utahn's had a very good representative in Chaffetez but
apparently didn't appreciate it! I'm not familiar with the three
candidates running for his seat, but would caution you that Hillary was truly as
crooked as her husband and or Obama! Had she won, we would NOT have had
thousands of Nazi's parading through our streets, but we WOULD be seeing
ever more of our freedoms being sacrificed to Liberal, Socialists whom seem to
believe that they and they alone know the path to happiness!
@JWB - Kaysville, UTMrs. Bill Clinton was very arrogant and assumed
she could ignore the people she termed the "basket of deplorables". She
paid the price, and to this day is unable to accept her failure to win the
presidency.Unless the democrats figure out what they did wrong, stop
blaming President Trump, and get their act together Trump will beat them again
Having three choices in our elections is much better than just two. Can we do
this from now on, please?
Are all GOP candidates in next year’s elections going to avoid the Access
Hollywood Candidate that win the Presidential election with the
Evangelical’s vote. How many veterans and women voted for the man without
a soul nor conscience?It will be interesting to see if the GOP House
of Representatives still sit on their hands and do nothing with this President
at the helm.Puerto Rico is not getting support. With Utah in last
position on voting for this President, he will probably give Utah the last
priority in anything.I noticed that Senator Hatch has been sitting
to the left of this President on several occasions. Senator Murkowski sat there
also and derided her mercilessly.
Old joke: Two people interviewed for a job. A recent graduate, summa cum laude,
with an MBA, and CPA. An old CPA with many years of experience. Q: what is 2+2 ?
Young grad. says: "2". Interviewer ; thank you; we'll get back to
you. Old CPA: " what do you want it to be ?" He was hired. That pretty
well describes the political situation in this country, today. Draw conclusions
how you may.
@poyman:Unlike you, I watched the debate and what you say about
Professor Magelby is hogwash.
WJ_CoachAnd yet the democrats want to cater to the small minority of
people in the US and not to the Majority of the US. The democrat party is a far
cry from the famous JFK quote "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask
what you can do for your country." Now democrats are saying, Ask not what
you can do for you country, ask what your country can do for you.
The most important thing is that the debate highlighted the issue of healthcare
quite a bit. Our broken and failing healthcare system is breaking the financial
back of families, businesses and the country as a whole. Other than dealing
with North Korea to avoid a nuclear conflict - there is no more important issue
than America's broken healthcare system. That being the case I urge Utahns
to vote for the candidate who they believe can best address the healthcare mess
as it is such a huge issue! I don't care what the candidate's party
is, I am most concerned about their knowledge and ability to influence the
direction of healthcare.
Bennett clearly won the debate. Curtis was as bland as fat free vanilla yogurt;
but he's an "R" so he'll doubtless win the election. Allen is
not ready for prime time - nervous, unsure with her answers which made her look
unsure of her positions.
@Kent C. DeForrest - Provo, UTKent says "John Curtis is clueless
about the health-care industry".You might be right Kent. In
that case he is in lockstep with the majority of the members of congress. Our
health-care in the United States is headed into the toilet.
Watched the debate. Jim Bennett wiped the floor with both of them. Confident,
poised, and direct - the only one who actually answered questions. It was telling that John Curtis twice passed on the chance to offer additional
info, presumably on the assumption that the less he says at this point, the
better. Which is probably true, as he didn't really say anything in any of
the answers he gave. He's sitting on his lead and hoping nobody notices
that the emperor has no clothes. Kathie Allen was terrible. Weirdly
robotic, reading a bunch of canned nonsense. Seems like a nice enough person, I
guess, but she's an awful candidate and way too far left for this district.
Bennett has my vote, and I suspect he has the vote of many who saw
just how articulate and effective he is for the first time. I think he did
himself a world of good last night.
The election is about a Utah congressional representative. It is not a
presidential election. Deflecting issues important to Utahns in favor of linking
Curtis to Donald Trump is disingenuous. That argument has no substance and
reflects Allen and Bennett's desperation. As an independent, Bennett would
have no influence in congress and as a freshman representative Allen will simply
line up behind Nancy Pelosi. Neither would advance the best interests of the
I didn't read the article, but I did watch the debate. Here's my
review.John Curtis is clueless about the health-care industry. He
will rubber-stamp anything the GOP leaders or Trump favor (if they can get on
the same page). He is nowhere near the moderate I thought he might be. He would
be a disaster in Washington.Jim Bennett is clearly comfortable in
front of a camera. He projects very well. He would be a big improvement over
Chaffetz. I suspect he will steal a lot of votes from Curtis, but not so many
from Allen. If you listened carefully, you learned that he is a supply-sider,
which is a real head-scratcher, but, hey, what else have the Republicans and
pseudo-Republicans got? They haven't had a new economic idea for nearly 40
years, and Bennett doesn't either.Allen is a physician. She
understand health-care very well (far better than self-proclaimed
"patient" Curtis). She also has a good grasp of many other important
issues and would not fall for the simplistic "solutions" of the
intellectually vacant GOP. She would be a check on the dangerous course Trump
has set. She gets my vote.
@RiflemanWhat was the smoke screen Clinton for? Enlighten us with the
truth... not any of the Russian-Trump lies... we need to stop all the hatred and
lies while focusing on what’s best for the MAJORITY of Americans not just
a select minority... we are all on the same team
@impartialCan't wait to start following President Trump
"blindly" all over again in 2020.Much better than following
an Obama or a Hillary with "eyes wide open".😁
It matters little who wins because no matter what they say and pledge to support
the voters and nations interest as soon as they take office their support and
loyalty shifts to their self gain and party's interest. USA needs a
different political system, a third party or perhaps a parliamentary government.
@Lia - Sandy, UTC'mon Lia. You surely must have realized by
now that the American voters saw through Mrs. Bill Clinton's smoke screen.
She could fool all of the democrats some of the time, and some of the democrats
all the time but she couldn't fool all of the democrats all the time.
I am guessing in the third district Trump probably got about 70% of the vote so
Bennett trashing Trump is splitting the anti-trump vote and pretty much
guaranteeing a Curtis victory.
Currently, The GOP is the root of all evil--
Keep dreaming libs. Trump won you lost. Keep feeding liberal fodder and
you'll continue to lose.lia- I know conservatives have nothing of
value to offer, but just what does your merry band of liberals offer,,,,nothing.
The party of weiner, clintons,schumer, pelosi, boxer, feinstein, waters,
sharpton, jackson, brown and franken. very stellar first string lineup.
How's the bench doing?
The wise candidate would ask voters how their 401Ks are doing and remind voters
that they owe all that to President Trump and that candidate supports President
Trump's policies! That candidate would win in a landslide!
GOP candidates are not mentioning Trump because he's a disaster. Then, when
they take office, they will blindly follow Trump.
Great respect for Arizona (LDS) Republican Senator Flake who has the courage to
admit Trump is ruining the Republican Party.When even the farther
right candidates like Curtis are distancing themselves as much as they can from
a Republican President you have to know that he's a terrible president.Listen. We can all agree Hillary was a terrible candidate. But if
Republicans are to be principled and honest (and save the Party) they have to
admit that Trump is the worst Republican President ever and stand up to him.Americans and Republicans won't be bullied. If Curtis really wants
to be a respected Republican he should be not just avoiding Trump, he should be
standing up to him.Hillary, no. Trump, never ever again.
I think the best advise for all three candidates in Utah Country is to listen to
Elder Zwick's talk in the final session of the last General Conference. He
stated clearly that sometimes "we should look (listen?) beyond what we think
we see (hear?) in order to avoid becoming "A giant demolition wrecking
ball." Those who will follow this advise will avoid the "spiritual
short-sightedness," which seems to be a characteristic of those liberals
who are too quick to criticize the POTUS.
Allen was robotic and brought nothing but her disapproval of all things Trump
even if the question had nothing to do with him. Bennett appearwd a reasonable,
work across the aisle conservative but in a time were anything short of a
willingness to die charging up every conservative hill is considered a liberal
he'll go unnoticed. Curtis knew all he had to do was dribble out the
debate clock so he said nothing interesting and seemed bored. I blame you Jason
At the end of the day when all the dust settles Provo Mayor John Curtis will win
the seat formerly held by Jason Chaffetz. Of course Kathie Allen might pull
off the win if she could get Mrs. Bill Clinton to come and campaign for her.
I thought they all handled themselves well, especially Kathy Allen for being her
first time in politics. Her ending comment about "a Party of one gets
nothing done" is correct, but what no one realizes is that a single
Congressman cannot make change; they are subject to all of the other Congressmen
who are a check and balance within the Legislature. That is why the Trump
discussion was so vital and important, because the Executive Branch was never
intended by the Constitution to have so much power vested in a single
individual. It throws off the checks and balances of a Republic. Whichever
candidate can withstand the bribery of the lobbiests and extortion to pass laws
in the lobbiest's favor will do a fine job.
All these candidates are better than Chaffetz.Wasn't it a much
better debate with Bennett participating? I would have no trouble voting for
the Utah United candidate here. He showed himself well.If Curtis
wants to support Trumps wall, he should be loud and proud about it, not keeping
potential constituents guessing on what he plans to do.I thought
Bennett and Allen did best in the debate. Curtis wasn't terrible but
didn't come across as well as I thought he would.
The article was disappointing to me. It seems that the writer was searching for
any way to discredit Mr. Curtis. This is a reoccurring problem, when I read an
article I want facts not opinions, that seem to be imbedded throughout this
Curtis, like most republicans, is substance-free. Dr. Allen is CLEARLY the
best choice, which is exactly why Utah state won't elect her.
I thought that Magleby was out of line with most of his comments. I didn't
watch the debate because I had conflicts this evening but it's clear that
the P.S. Prof from BYU is a left leaner (in fact, he probably is more than a
"leaner")In my book a moderator should come across as
unbiased and refrain from opinion statements before, during and after a debate
that he moderates. I believe that that type of behavior increases the
credibility of the guy who asks the questions.BTW, I wish that BYU
would break the trend of only employing left wingers to staff their Political
Science Departments. In would be refreshing to have a Conservative once in
I wasn't a Trump fan last year but voted for him anyway... And, I have been
pleasantly surprised by what he has done in his first 10 months in Office...
More than either Obama and Bush Jr. did in their entire 8 years.Record Stock Market numbers, first time we have seen GDP over 3.0 in over 10
years, Having the moxie to take down ISIS , credibility with his stated "Red
Lines" around the world, a Patriotism first demeanor, appointing
Conservative Judges that will eventually "right" the liberal leanings
of the Supremes in recent years , finally putting us on a road that will curb
the run-away premium hikes we were seeing with Obama Care, A sound "pro
life" position, etc., etc.If I were running for office in Utah I
would be delighted to say I support this kind of record (albeit the far left
population pockets of SLC proper wouldn't see it that way). The good part
is that they are a small minority group in this state which fortunately
continues to keep us on the right road.As for these candidates...
all are too Liberal for me... I preferred Curtis's Primary Challengers...
But with them gone, he will definitely get my vote... In fact he already has.
How did Curtis get elected? Has Utah County lost all their collective marbles?
Clearly, not a conservative anywhere on this ticket......they could all be
representing La Raza and no one would suspect anything less! It would be in
Utah's best interest that Curtis get beat.....in two years a real
Conservative who would support a wall can then defeat her!
SLars:It would be Chris Herrod, you have to get the name exact if
you want your vote to count.Unlike you, I actually like all three
candidates, they aren't idealogues, they are very successful people that
are proven leaders. To me, it's nice to have a good choice to make vs.
what we had in the last presidential race.
It's obvious we have three Democrats running for the office. Curtis went
from supporting the wall to amnesty and supporting the Utah compact, something
less than 5,000 Utahns supported. Allen went so far as to rename it the LDS
compact. Looks like a write in vote for Mike Herrrod for me.