Former BYU head coach has Cavaliers off to their best start in a decade
I never dreamed I would be longing for the days of Bronco Mendenhall, but after
1-6, what else is there to do?
Bronco now gets to coach athletes who are not limited due to an honor code.
Trust me, most college kids wanna party. Almost all college athletes do
party.I'm sure he's enjoying having fast cbs for the first
time in a long time.
@Jello is GoodI'd love to have Bronco back. The pool of head coaching
candidates that are LDS is pretty slim. He turned around a losing program at
BYU, and now Virginia. Why wouldn't I want that?He didn't
show emotion? Anyone remember Lavell? We named a stadium after him. I think I
saw him smile once. And his bowl record? A lot worse than Bronco's.We'd all love to see Sitake and Detmer win. I buy the new program
excuse last year, but this year they've had time to implement their system.
They should be working out the kinks, not searching for an identify with all
positions "up for grabs". Last year we played with Bronco's
recruits. This year we are playing with a mix.This year we are not
only losing - we are losing in historic fashion. And each week gets worse not
better.Remember Crowton - how great he did with Lavell's team?
What happened when he built his own team?BYU fans need to realize -
we are a 9-10 win school. We aren't a national power house. We can be
competitive, spend time in the polls, and occasionally have a magical season.
New coaches aren't going to turn us into Alabama or Ohio State. And if they
did, they'd be gone in 2 years (ala Urban Meyer).
"The Oracle of Bronco declared independence was not sustainable.This
year, fans finally understand the prophecy."Spokane Ute:It's hilarious to read all the pretend love here for Mendenhall,
because it sure wasn't reciprocal. BYU-P fans have proven Roscoe's
other famous truism: "the level of criticism usually matches the level of
education and the fans."
Glad to see Bronco doing well at UVA. Beautiful campus, pretty city, walking
distance to Thomas Jefferson's mansion. The serpentine brick wall he built
is unique. UVA is also hard to get into, don't know if football players
have a big hurdle or get a pass.As for BYU, Season 1B starts this
Saturday. But with 20-odd injuries, none of those games will be cakewalks.
I'm thing 4-2 for the rest of the season, and no bowl.Uh,
perhaps for future scheduling, the Athletic Director could look for some P5
teams that are a bit less, er... good, than the gauntlet BYU ran into this year.
For example, instead of playing the top players, how about some lesser lights
like, say, Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Kansas, Iowa, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa State,
Northwestern, Boston College, Georgia Tech. Along with the PAC12 teams
we're playing, BYU would be playing at their level. When recruiting picks
up and the new system is established, then the Wisconsins and Michigans would be
OK. This schedule with all the crazy injuries and massive teams, the only game
BYU was actually in was Utah. Even Utah State drubbed an injury-riddled BYU.
Ease up a little.
Max loves Pepsi : “BYU will be just fine and KS will have BYU back on top
very soon.”On top of what? Currently the only thing they are
headed to the top of is the Bottom 10.
Cream always rises to the top. Bronco was a top flight guy, morally,
defensively, had a good offensive coordinator (although Anae seemed to bring out
the worst in the fans), and you can bet your bottom dollar the coaches left to
be with him and work in tandem with his ideas as a coach , a little more money
didn't hurt either.
Good for Bronco he's a great coach, I wish him all the best, he's not
done rising to the top yet, not even close and the guys now at the helm of
Cougar Football will be fine too, we just need to be patient, this P-5 thing is
a whole new ballgame, its all about money with these kids now. Of course, money
is the program that gives them the chance to play on the next stage and of
course they all want that chance. Go COUGS!
Bronco is a good man and very good coach. He isn't flashy. He isn't
charismatic. He just knows how to get his players to perform at their best. He
did it with BYU. Personally, I am thrilled at his success. It truly validates
his ability as a football coach. And now he has P5 talent to work with. I
expect good things for Virginia going forward.As hard as it is to
see past this current 1-6 team, Kalani has what it takes to be a very good
coach. BYU is going to be OK. But they've got to stop the recruit exodus.
High school kids see perception as reality more than any other age group. BYU
has to change the perception that it's on a permanent downslide. They do
that by winning the next 6.
don17:"First, Indiana vs Virginia and ragging on Indiana's
schedule being 3 and 3. Yes, three losses to Ohio State, Penn State and
Michigan. Name any team other than Alabama who could get through those
three?"Gladly...Georgia. Ohio State and Michigan are overrated,
and Penn State relies too much on Barkley...not going to work against a great
run defense like the Dawgs (I actually think Penn State will struggle against
the tougher part of their schedule). And I'm sick of hearing how
there's Bama and everyone else...these people obviously haven't
watched Georgia play.As for Bronco, I'm happy for him. I
didn't always like his personality and how he struggled with relationships
with alumni, but he was a good coach. When he left I felt like things may go
south and fans would wish he were back...I won't go that far because I
don't wish him back. I hope Sitake can turn things around because he seems
to have better relationships with alumni and be less quirky, but he needs to
make some things happen. I'd be surprised if some heads don't roll if
we only win 3 or 4 games this year (maybe not Sitake, but someone(s) will be
"The Oracle of Bronco declared independence was not sustainable.This
year, fans finally understand the prophecy."Don't lump me
in as a fan who finally dislikes independence. I've disliked it since the
day it was announced.
"The difference between a mudhole and a geyser is enthusiasm!"
Personally, having watched BYU over the Bronco era, I can say in all honesty
that Bronco never exuded any real enthusiasm, other than an isolated experience
here and there.....especially when Tanner threw the Hail Mary. He does have a
good football mind, but he used to walk out on to the field with that
"Ho-Hum" demeanor......as if to say, "Okay, let's go play
another game." All of this being said, I can understand why some people
were turned off by him.
@Laxman - taylorsville, UTOct. 17, 2017 10:16 p.m."As a
UTE I think it is funny watching all of the cougars and the Dnews miss
Roscoe."You are projecting. Nobody on here from BYU said they
wanted Bronco back. They said they liked him and they wished him well. They
appreciated what he accomplished here, but I think both he, BYU and it's
fans were ready for a change.
Max-was-right - Mapleton, UTOct. 17, 2017 6:10 p.m.Spokane Ute
- Spokane, WAOct. 17, 2017 1:46 p.m.Max-was-right - Mapleton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:40 p.m.Good for Bronco, real Cougar fans wish him
only the best. BYU will be just fine and KS will have BYU back on top very
soon.---------Rumor has it that Bronco has replaced all the Blue
Pepsi machines with Red ones.There is only one pathetic athletic
department childish enough to ask for red pepsi machines because they hate a
team so bad that they "think" they have left behind and it's on a
hill.-------and only one person at the bottom of the hill who's
childish enough to worry about the color of Pepsi machines on Utah's
@Brave Sir Robin - San Diego, CAOct. 17, 2017 1:09 p.m."Remember that time when BYU-Provo fans rode Bronco out of town on a pole
because he was a lousy coach?"Nope. Because that didn't
happen. What I do remember is some vocal fans showed their dissatisfaction with
his "uniqueness" and that, although good and steady, could not take BYU
to the next level.Bronco chose to leave on his own for three
reasons:1. Money2. To coach a team in a P53. He was at odds
with the current AD and administration as he had publicly stated that their
strategy and path was wrong and unsustainable.
@ekute - Layton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:55 p.m."Mr.
Robinson,As I remember, you and the rest of the local media painted ponies
and rainbows on everything that Bronco did while he was at byu and the fans for
the most part were all in. Not till he announced that he would leave did he tee
anybody off."What???? Do you even have the ability to
comprehend when you read? Bronco was ripped because constantly in this
newspaper before he left because he couldn't take BYU to the next level.
And then he stated openly that the strategy of the Athletic Director and the
school was unsustainable showing public disloyalty. That all happened long
before he left.
As others have pointed out:Bronco took over a team that had
reasonable recruits on site but whose previous coaches were challenged when it
came to X's and O's.Virginia's schedule is heavily
backloaded in terms of opponent strength and the jury is still out regarding
Mendenhall until how we see how his team does against the better ACC teams. If Mendenhall pushes the envelope in terms of recruitment practices or
borderline on-field behavior like occurred here then don't expect the other
ACC schools to remain passive about it (possibly the one disadvantage of being
in a conference for Mendenhall -- the other schools have a greater vested
interest in fairness since they play each other year after year).
How many times are we going to hear that Sitake is a great recruiter with zero
qualifiers of his great recruits? Who has he recruited???? Bronco brought in the
all time leading rusher, Williams, the all time winningest quarterback, Hall,
super bowl champs, Pita and Van Noy, arguably the most athletic quarterback,
Hill from a Stanford commitment. Will someone please list the names of his great
recruits on his 2-12 Oregon St team? Or his great recruits in his struggling
Utah teams? 4 solid recruits switched from BYU to the U last week. Sitake is a
great guy but hasn’t proven himself to be a great anything yet.
As a UTE I think it is funny watching all of the cougars and the Dnews miss
I thought Bronco got about as much as a coach could out of the type of talent
that plays for BYU. Unfortunately, he couldn't win the big games often
enough and just won the easy ones. The jury is still out on Kilani Sitake but
this year sure is discouraging. Let's hope in time that coach Sitake will
find ways to win but he has his work cut out for him.
Bronco is head coach material and that is the lesson here. Byu is lacking
leadership and experience at the helm. Some guys are just good coordinators but
not a good fit as the head man. There is nothing wrong with that there are a lot
of good coaches in that boat. Byu is in just bad spot with such a limited pool
HoboA1: BYU is NOT the problem! Are you old enough to remember a coach named
LaVell Edwards? Talk to any of LaVell's former players, and they will tell
you that LaVell had a way of helping players believe in themselves. Tanner
Mangum is an incredible talent, but he seems to lack confidence (maybe it is the
interceptions?). BYU's receivers coach was one of the best, but his
players seem to lack the passion for making the receptions (or even keeping the
ball away from the defense). BYU's defense is terrible, and may need more
help from Satiki (or were his defenses at Utah more because of coach Whitt and
less about Satiki?).The bottom line is that the current coaching
staff are great recruiters, but their recruits all want to serve missions. Tanner Mangum was virtually given the keys to the program, but
somewhere, he has seemed to have lost his ability to lead with confidence. Give
him some protection and have receivers run better routes and he will be just
fine.For the nay sayers, remember that coach Whitt struggled in his
first few years, and again in the PAC 12, and Hill almost fired him. BYU may not do well this year, but in the long run, they will be fine.
Bronco team ahead of Utah again in the polls.
Just a couple comments regarding comments here. First, Indiana vs
Virginia and ragging on Indiana's schedule being 3 and 3. Yes, three losses
to Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan. Name any team other than Alabama who
could get through those three? Indiana may be a lot better than you think, but
have a tough schedule with 5 and 1 Michigan State this week. Second,
11 years is a long time and a time to go was a basic comment about a Bronco.
Nick Sagan is in season 11 at Alabama with 4 National titles their and 2 time
coach of the year to go along with a 11.125 million dollar salary. Maybe he is
bored and looking to build a program? Third, Bronco cannot recruit
and get players to play. I have w
Max-was-right - Mapleton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:40 p.m.BYU will
be just fine and KS will have BYU back on top very soon.---------Love the comic relief on these threads.
I have always been a supporter of Bronco. It was time. Now that BYU is
disappointing and hard to watch, at least I can root for Virginia. Bronco
should come get some of those talented Poly's around here.
Spokane Ute - Spokane, WAOct. 17, 2017 1:46 p.m.Max-was-right -
Mapleton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:40 p.m.Good for Bronco, real
Cougar fans wish him only the best. BYU will be just fine and KS will have BYU
back on top very soon.---------Rumor has it that Bronco has replaced
all the Blue Pepsi machines with Red ones.There is only one pathetic
athletic department childish enough to ask for red pepsi machines because they
hate a team so bad that they "think" they have left behind and it's
on a hill.
I'm happy for the former coaching staff. I'm following them and cheer
when they win.But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Schedules
and luck play so much into half a season that it's nearly impossible to
judge a team's performance with any accuracy at this juncture.VA's schedule becomes considerably more difficult for the latter half of
the season. If they can mirror their early success, they will be legitimate. But
they've had some close games against weak competition so it could also be
very difficult back half (although I give them credit for a strong performance
against BSU, much better than BYU).On the other hand, BYU has had a
front-loaded season with some tough games and strong teams. The rest of the
season becomes much easier and it's possible BYU has a string of wins going
into bowl season.So let's wait to judge them until the end of
the season. BYU's offense may prove itself to be completely inept.
VA's defense may proves itself to be the real deal. But right now it's
too early to tell.
@65TossPowerTrap:Is your Google broken? Deseret News
won't allow posting the link in the comments for some reason, but you can
Google it if you need confirmation. You'll find it in the USA Today,
Washington Post and several other publications, including the papers here in
Utah last spring. Which you evidently have access to. Back to this
article... Not being able to beat a "hated" rival was why most BYU fans
were fine seeing Bronco go.
Being both a BYU and Virginia fan. Virginia got the better deal. Mendenhall is
far more effective and confident than Sitake, something I already knew about
Mendenhall before his arrival here. Sitake looks lost and shaken on the
sidelines. It was expected that UVA would have a losing season last year, and I
was expecting the first few years hoping for patience from the fan base. Nobody
was expecting a 5-1 start with a certain bowl game. Mendenhall bringing the
coaching staff with him was a coup. The people of Virginia are excited about
football again, and thanks BYU from the bottom of our hearts. I fear for
BYU, Sitake was an unknown to me other than a past player. The team is receiving
no direction and motivation from the coaching staff. What the heck has happened
to Magnum? Something has shaken his confidence from two years ago prior to the
current coaching staffs arrival. The team is in upheaval. I hope to attend the
ECU game and just see with my own eyes what's going on during the game on
the sidelines. Two years ago when the changes were made. I was expecting
Mendenhall to have a short stay here, and Sitake to grow into it. Very likely
that has been flipped around.
Many posters here get it. Bronco was not the problem. The problem is BYU itself.
The school, its goals, and mission are not complimentary to high performance
football. It is just not in the cards. I just wished the powers that B would
stop leading people along into thinking BYU can compete at the top and win.
Edwards succeeded because he competed in a puny conference and dominated. More
especially, the passing game and west coast offense were new. It is a whole
different ball of wax these days.
"I'm sure as the poster said, it was also going on at BYU because this
coaching staff is just that way."Sure enough to prove it?
Didn't think so.
Yes, they were horrific violations... coaches taking selfies with recruits. The
shame of it all. I'm sure as the poster said, it was also going on at BYU
because this coaching staff is just that way.
Subject to check, all of the firesides were Bronco's doing. Bronco was a
good, not great coach at BYU. Will he do better in the long run at Virginia,
We'll see. I've seen several coaches go to a place, do well in year 2
and 3, then tank. We'll see. I think Bronco could have been
better if he:Stopped talking about being a mission president.Stopped doing firesides the Friday night before the game.Pretended to
have a personality around alumni and fans. Used all of the practices
during bowl season.Refrain from admitting that Football was #4 on his list
(no need to tell the world that). Developed talent instead of chase it
away because he thought they weren't humble enough. Honestly,
there is more. This does sound harsh, but this is why he didn't win the
hearts of fans and alumni alike. He did his thing. He did good things, but he
never did anything great with his recruits. All but one of his 10+ win seasons
were with Crowton's recruits. The real question is...Is DN
going to plague us with constant articles about Bronco (al la Jake Heaps) for
the foreseeable future? I hope not.
G. Costanza - New York, NYOct. 17, 2017 4:31 p.m.Spokane Ute:
Thank you for the humor! Most real cougar fans could use some right now (humor
that is). How did you know that UVA's first football team wore red
uniforms?P.S. Love Spokane! My Mom lives in Otis Orchards.----------My friend Max has a real hang up with Utah having red pepsi
machines on campus; hence the joke. Spokane's awesome. I have lived and
traveled all over the U.S., and outside a few times. No where I'd rather be
than Spokane. Otis Orchards is a nice area. Peace Mr. Costanza; have a great one
and Thanks for the civil dialogue!
BYU is in the process of retooling. This may take another year or so but it
will be well worth it. The Offense that Ty is trying to implement takes
different personnel than what BYU has right now the 25% of SItake/Detmer players
who are in-house tend to be the ones who are doing well currently. Before
panicking, let's give these guys another couple of years to
implement a completely new offense with the quarterback under center. It will be
well worth it.
Congrats Bronco, I mean that, I'm happy for him and I wish him well.Last year Bronco had his team at 2-10, this year they are 5-1 - maybe
sometimes it takes time for a new coach and offense to click, right?The end result of BYU's season this year for many will be a
disappointment - for the sake of the seniors I hope they can go bowling.Bronco didn't win the hearts of the BYU football fans, Virginia is
a great fit for him, he cut his teeth on being a HC at BYU and now he's got
a huge contract - good for everybody.Kalani has won the hearts of
BYU fans, I am still a fan of Kalani and Ty, let's give them time and see
what happens. Hope we don't need to go 2-10 before we can also see a 5-1
start, but I like the direction that the team is headed in.
Spokane Ute: Thank you for the humor! Most real cougar fans could use some right
now (humor that is). How did you know that UVA's first football team wore
red uniforms?P.S. Love Spokane! My Mom lives in Otis Orchards.
Max loves red Pepsi:“BYU will be just fine and KS will have
BYU back on top very soon.”I wouldn’t hold your breath
on that one. I’m quite sure YOU were one of many, who claimed byu was a
sure thing to be a “powerhouse” this season, with all the “new
sheriff” talk. Very glad for Bronco, he knew byu smashed in the iceberg
when they went indy, and he kept the “Titanic” afloat as long as he
could, but was smart enough to jump ship when he did. Go Cavaliers!
Bronco and staff have not recruited well at all in a football rich state
unfortunately. The formerly BYU staff does not relate well to the boys in
Tidewater and Richmond. They need to hire someone who does. The previous coach
was an excellent recruiter but a lousy field coach so Bronco had some raw
athletes that took a year to develop. Now that Bronco has UVA is winning,
hopefully the recruiting will improve.
"Anyone who believes the 32 violations at Virginia last year were a change
from practices at BYU is not facing reality. "So are you saying
that BYU has committed NCAA recruiting violations? If so, please share some
specific details - we're all dying to hear.
The Oracle of Bronco declared independence was not sustainable.This year,
fans finally understand the prophecy.
Bronco is a great coach and did great job at BYU. I was sorry to see him go. I
believe he did explain his reasoning when he left. Go back and read the DN.
Glad Virginia didn’t chase him out of town, given his record last year.
BYU fans would do well to understand a little more about the game. You have to
recruit to fit your scheme. It takes time. We also have great coaches with
great potential leading the BYU program today. Let’s give them an
oppprtunity to grow into their role, recruit for what they need, and to have
some suppprt in the process. Edwards is a legendary coach. Very glad BYU kept
him around after a few bad seasons as he was starting out.
No surprise things are turning around at UVA football with Bronco and his staff
direction. It's still early, but the foundation for success on and off the
field is definitely in place. Nothing given, everything earned. Go Hoos!
Who? What team? Where now? Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda. I would still take
Sitake and Detmer.
Anyone who believes the 32 violations at Virginia last year were a change from
practices at BYU is not facing reality. Also, have you observed the on field
behavior of Virginia players? It is very similar to the antics practiced at BYU
while Bronco was in Provo. Bronco will soon become the most hated coach in
whatever conference the Cavaliers are in. . . and deservedly so. . .
It's not uncommon for a particular personality style (albeit successful) to
wear out on people over time. Bronco Mendenhall is a classic example. We all
wish him success, as none of us questioned whether he was a good guy or not.
Bronco was a good coach and I was happy with him at BYU, but 11 years is a long
time at any one school and Bronco didn't need any other reason to leave
than he was looking for a different challenge. I wish him well and am thankful
for the good job he did at BYU.I also appreciate the difference
Kalani makes, I'm not sure he hired the best coaches, but everyone needs
some time to figure things out and there is certainly not much patience in
today's world for people to grow into their jobs. Most difficult for the
players who only have a few, short years. Regardless, I also wish Kalani, his
coaches and players the best. It is the lessons from the difficult times that
you remember and grow the most from. Go Cougars!
Max-was-right - Mapleton, UTOct. 17, 2017 12:40 p.m.Good for
Bronco, real Cougar fans wish him only the best. BYU will be just fine and KS
will have BYU back on top very soon.---------Rumor has it that
Bronco has replaced all the Blue Pepsi machines with Red ones.
Listen, I was a fan of Bronco at BYU, and I am not a BYU fan. But I loved to
see the passion he had for the game and with his players. It was fun to watch.
And I truly wish the guy well at Virginia. But lets not get carried away. They
have only had 3 Conference Titles in the history of the school, most recent in
1995. So you could say there is room for improvement.With that
said, lets really not get carried away. Yes he is 5-1, but, that record is
against 6 opponents with a combined record of 16-22, and their lone loss is to a
3-3 Indiana team. Now we can make excuses for some of these school
they played I am sure. 2-4 William and Mary, 3-3 Indiana, 2-4 UCONN, 4-2 Boise
St, 4-3 Duke and 1-6 UNC. And trust me, I want Bronco to do well, I would love
to see him win the ACC and make UVA an awesome force in teh ACC. But before we
start giving him to much credit, of a one season improvment. Lets wait to see
how he does against games to come......Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, and
Virginia Tech. Then we will know. But good luck Bronco, best of
wishes here. I hope you do turn that program around. GO BRONCO!
Stating that Bronco didn't "win hearts" at BYU is an over-statement
and inaccurate. There will always be the whiners that think BYU should turn into
Ohio State every year. Bronco ran a solid program in a division 1 setting that
is tough to succeed in (ask half the schools in the U.S. who play sub-500 ball
nearly every year). I still think Sitake can turn things around, but obviously
there will need to be adjustments on the offensive side of the ball if the
Cougars intend to be competitive given the level of competition they have
Remember that time when BYU-Provo fans rode Bronco out of town on a pole because
he was a lousy coach?
Mr. Robinson,As I remember, you and the rest of the local media painted
ponies and rainbows on everything that Bronco did while he was at byu and the
fans for the most part were all in. Not till he announced that he would leave
did he tee anybody off.Allowing him to leave is just another in a
string of huge mistakes.
I'm happy for Mendenhall, but let's not get carried away. He was
tapped out at BYU - he knew it and everybody else knew it. Curiously, Robinson
failed to mention Mendenhall's NCAA recruiting violations at Virginia - 32
violations by seven different Virginia coaches. Seems that Mendenhall's
recruiting methods have changed as well. (Yes moderator - those recruiting
violations are easy to verify.)
Mendenhall is a good coach, there's never been any question about that.
Recruiting to a school like BYU really hampered his ability to win more games,
and that won't change no matter who the coach is. And now he's
showing what he can do when recruiting is less an issue. Even Lavell faced
these problems, though recruiting and honor code violations are MUCH more at the
forefront today than they were 30 years ago. I'm glad that Mendenhall is
having success. But I also felt, when he left, that he was burned out on
coaching and just wanted a few large paychecks to ease into an early retirement;
I'm not convinced that's still not the case.And I'll
also say that while he's a good head coach he's a great defensive
mind, it's too bad he's not lined up with a great head coach...that
would be an unstoppable team...
Good for Bronco, real Cougar fans wish him only the best. BYU will be just fine
and KS will have BYU back on top very soon.
The firesides were his choice. He didn't have to do them. Sitake
doesn't have them.Years ago there was a very good football player out
of Texas that was basically a shoo-in for BYU. His dad was an alumnus and the
kid grew up rooting for BYU. After meeting with Mendenhall, the dad told his
kid, "You already have a bishop. Let's go find you a real coach."
He didn't have to go full on ecclesiastical leader, but that was his
choice. Not great at recruiting. But yes, fans got a little short
sighted at impatient when he was a pretty good coach. But his demeanor did turn
people off a little. Sitake is a good recruiter and yet to be seen if he
is a good coach. Probably needs to get more assistant coaches who have college
Glad Bronco is doing so well. He may not have been the Life of the Party, but he
was an effective coach.